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"I do not want to and I have no right to name names, but a number of high-level, well-known leaders of Western countries, including one specific Western leader, a very well-known one, several times... at least via three different channels of communication, sent signals as to why don't we meet and talk about what to do with Ukraine and with European security.He suggested that Kiev has been the unwilling party:
"Russia is always ready to discuss these issues seriously. We have never rejected the negotiations and this question should not be addressed to us."
"We have never rejected the negotiations and this question should not be addressed to us."However, the foreign minister stressed that any talks would have to account for "Russia's legitimate interests" and must mean "putting an end to attempts to build [one's] own security at the expense of others," referring to Ukraine's efforts to join the NATO bloc.


"There is no such thing as Europe. Don't think too much about it. America exists. Europe is a mule in America's convoy. It has no special features."The perspective of the Turkish minister can answer the question in the initial comment, regarding whether the Western powers missed a chance for a good deal by dissuading Kiev from a peace agreement in 2022. They did not, since Europe is inconsequential and the US made money. Of course, if we do not agree with the Turkish minister, or the process of reasoning, there could be other answers.
If massive depopulation is the end goal, then continued support for Ukraine is the way to go
Military conflicts are not the result of random chance. Deliberate planning is involved.

"16 DEC, 21:31 Any potential peace deal to reflect Ukraine's capitulation — Russia's UN missionConsidering two rather different intentions, there are likely to be twists and turns, and of course more polls and surveys from Ukraine showing the willingness for peace, or is it now for continued fighting or capitulation?
"As for the peace agreement, it is already well-known that it was initialed by negotiators of Ze [Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky], and its copy was shown by [Russian] President [Vladimir] Putin. And this story, as well as the direct involvement of the UK and the US in persuading Ze to reject [the agreement], has been corroborated by numerous witnesses. However, you have nothing to worry about, as Ze's Ukraine has blown its chances for such a favorable outcome, and therefore any possible deal will now reflect its capitulation," the Russian diplomat wrote on his Twitter page (formerly known as Twitter).
Comment:
EU weakness with respect to the US is hardly a new concept, below are a few indications:
- Is the Turkish minister right on that point, or is he exaggerating?
- Putin accuses EU of being a doormat for US
- Fresh anti-Russia sanctions to cause more damage to EU: Moscow
- Europe's role in Ukraine's war: EU's hand in the 2014 coup
- Macron issues warning on Europe's future
- What happens when you take a psycho's advice - 'Europe to pay for the whole mess in Ukraine'
- Lavrov: US and UK want 'real war' between Russia and EU
- To avoid losing control of Europe, the U.S. has a war plan for Europe and Russia
- West using 'Russia threat' as pretext to destabilize Europe: Lavrov
- Putin: EU is turning a blind eye to the fact that the Ukrainian troops are "directly targeting" civilians
- European Parliament bows to US masters, seeks hostile relations with Russia
- Germany buckles under new US sanctions: Abandons 5 projects of the Nord Stream-2
- No shame: US official Vicky 'f*ck the EU' Nuland praises Nord Stream 2 destruction
- Nord Stream 2 work in Germany is complete: 'We won't do US bidding, even if Biden is in charge', FM Maas says Well, Germany did do the US bidding, or was forced to accept the bombing of the pipeline, and more or less keep quiet about it.
- US denies 'preposterous' claim they 'sabotaged' Nord Stream 2 - as Trump shares video of Biden promising to 'bring an end' to pipeline
- The Empire sets 30-day deadline for European contractors to withdraw from Nord Stream 2 gas project: Obey immediately or face sanctions
- US State Department spokeswoman threatens to sanction European firms involved in Russian Nord Stream 2 pipeline
- Germany sees Russia as stable energy partner while US threatens Europe with sanctions unless it dumps Nord Stream 2 pipeline
- 'Very serious threats': US ramps up pressure on Nord Stream 2 contractors
- America's billion-dollar gas game: Nord Stream 2 threatens US energy exports to Europe
- EU Commissioner Oettinger: Nord Stream 2 is 'Unstoppable'
- A war Russia is set to win: The Europeans have been nicely played by the Americans - Former ambassador for India
- Bully at work: Firm laying Nord Stream 2 pipeline halts activity faced with 'crushing' US sanctions
- 'Unfair competition': Moscow blasts US move to enable sanctioning of Nord Stream 2 and TurkStream pipelines
- Kremlin tells Türkiye to wise up about EU
- Supreme Leader's advisor: Europe must wean itself from US 'dictate' or it will 'lose' (This is coming from Iran.)
- The EU doesn't know how to not be a vassal of the US any more
- US vassal state Germany approves first steps in trade deal with Canada, precursor to horrendous TTIP
- Merkel let the NSA in, turned Germany into another vassal of the US - German lawmaker
- US calls on vassal states in EU to put sanctions on Iranians developing missile program
- Top vassal country Denmark aims for NATO spending target with huge Ukraine aid package
- Poland continues to prove itself as a US vassal
- Vassal state Poland claims that paying more for US LNG over cheaper Russian gas 'increases sovereignty'
- Germany and Russia should be natural partners - but one of them is a US vassal state and the other is not
- Wishful thinking? Vassal state Germany suffers economic setback after Russian embargo, says only temporary
- U.S.-German secret treaty means Berlin is Washington's vassal until 2099
- Former German intelligence chief: In 1949 West Germany signed up to become United States vassal, NATO contemplated false-flag nuclear attack to 'cement' deal
- Skripal saga: Another chapter in the West's ongoing black propaganda war to force Russia into becoming one more imperial vassal state
- Lavrov: US efforts to turn Russia into its vassal are doomed to failure
- UK is becoming a vassal state to the US, says French presidential candidate
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- "Britain lived in an equilibrium with Europe. But now it is becoming a vassal state, meaning it is becoming the junior partner of the United State," Macron said in an interview with France Culture radio on Friday, according to Reuters. (This was in 2017!)
- Being a US vassal state is expensive: France to pay €1.1 bn to Russia for cancelled Mistral ships
- Biden flies to Brussels to tell European vassal states that he finds them expressing their own thoughts on Russian sanctions to be 'inappropriate and annoying'
- Paul Craig Roberts: Paris attack designed to shore up France's US vassal status
Will the EU show more independence from the US with respect to Gaza, compared to what they have done so far regarding Ukraine, considering:Biden has damned the United States over Israel's Gaza genocide
The U.S. is complicit with Israel in the genocide in Gaza
If the EU countries wanted to fit even better into the US vassal role, what steps should the countries take?
If on the other hand, they wanted more independence, how might they go about that?