[In the situation] that we take one of theirs now that they've got one of ours — who should we consider to take out in the context of America? Think about it. Are we supposed to take out Spiderman and SpongeBob? They don't have any heroes. We have a country in front of us with a large population and a large landmass, but it doesn't have any heroes. All of their heroes are cartoon characters - they're all fictional.Can anyone argue with that? Can anyone name an American soldier of any rank in recent decades who saved large numbers of civilians from terrorists? Someone who really stands out?
I'll wager that when you think about American troops in the Middle East, the things that come to mind are along the lines of: troops abusing and sexually humiliating prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, troops setting fire to Iraqis, troops raping a 14-year-old girl and killing her and her family afterwards, throwing a puppy off a cliff in Iraq, killing Afghan civilians and collecting fingers as trophies... and other similar, horrifying, stories.
It should be said, however, that not all US troops are ruthless psychopaths. Many have witnessed and exposed the truth that they were the terrorists, and some have come forward as anti-war activists.
Former Abu Ghraib US interrogator Eric Fair said four years ago:
We hurt people, and not just physically. We destroyed them emotionally, and...I think at the very least it's a just punishment for us that we suffer some of those consequences, too. [...] I made horrible mistakes. I have a responsibility to confess those things openly. [...] I think that the minute you violate another human being's will, as Americans, we have an obligation to call that torture.Henry Kissinger once said: "Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy." This is the type of thinking the likes of the Obamas, Clintons, Bush, CIA, Deep State, and the military-industrial complex still engage in. Remember what Hillary said about the Benghazi deaths (US envoy to Libya, Christopher Stevens, and three other officials): "What difference, at this point, does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, senator." People like Clinton don't care about American lives, or any lives for that matter (save their own). See this little video on Twitter with 16.1 million views and growing...:
American troops are sent to areas to support 'rebels' who are actually Islamic terrorists groups created and funded by the US themselves and their allies, or to fight the army of a democratically elected leader who is painted as a 'dictator' by the Western mainstream media. They are not there to protect the US, they are there to plunder and terrorize, and troops with their hearts in the right place find this out soon enough.
And when it comes to Trump, well, it does appear he knows about wars based on lies and doesn't hold back when it suits him:
And as you can read on our SOTT's Twitter page:
Before his Presidency, Trump had no idea who Soleimani was, and likely received wrong intel about him before he gave the green light to assassinate him. As far as 'bringing the troops home' goes, Trump had the opportunity to abide by the latest Iraqi government's request for all US troops to leave Iraq, but as most people should know by now, presidents of the great US of A do not hold all the power. The US is stayin'. The PTB can't risk losing influence in the Middle East, now can they? After all, who's going to protect all that oil?
Considering all the above, the Iranian cleric Moradi was right, the US doesn't have any heroes today, at least not in the military. How can they when the entire US military apparatus operates on lies. A US soldier of the highest rank may carry countless marksmanship badges, but it won't be because he saved innocent lives, unlike Soleimani. Truth be told, Soleimani would probably have said that he doesn't consider himself a hero at all, and that he was simply doing what was expected of him as a general; to protect the interests of the Iranian people to the best of his ability. In the era in which Soleimani lived, that involved fighting evil in a real way. As noted, that evil was primarily the work of the American empire. Maybe that's why America has no heroes.
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Seems to me that the Cleric has a pulse on Western mentality, all the superheros are on the big screen provided by Hollywood. As all fictional characters, they are a projection.
One could make the analogy that the political (as the cleric intimated) superheros of the day in the West are Spongbob Heroes.....a fantasy creation...Let's face it they are not really elected by the people the are propagandized to create the reality of free choice.
They have no real character, no morals, no conscience...They just exists to create a fantasy in the minds of those participating in the psychodrama created for them. What has been coined NPC characters. They all have a part to play.
From Shakespeare
All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts,
Meanwhile the real reality creators are hidden from view, their are nameless faceless, a mirage.
I am reminded of the Quote of the Day, provided by SOTT
"In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations." - Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
And that is the crux of the matter in my opinion, to keep silent and not acknowledging who are the real instigators of this drama is not...simply put telling the truth.
We are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.
It is for future generations that truth has to become alive again, to create new generations and a new world.
My thought.
Love the A.S. quote.
R.C.
They could bomb Hollywood, but they no Americans wouldn't care. Then there is Tom Brady. Perhaps the one figure that a terrorist can take out and the country would get behind.
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The social media stars and the Hollywood stars are just cartoon characters or cardboard representations of heroes. That works well to further a black and white mindset and produce authoritarian followers.
Surely what matters is that ultimately, America can do anything it wants and get away with it barring some symbolic retaliation against it.
In the case of Iran, if America so wanted, it could attack a site within it directly and Iran is unlikely to do the same and have it result in American deaths.... America can flatten the whole country in a day resulting in millions of deaths. That's probably the only thing stopping America... If it flattens Iran resulting in millions of deaths then it will have a hard time maintaining the moral superiority ground with the observing public around the world. That's probably one of the big reasons why. That's why it always has to create some manufactured reasons sold to its public before they go and commit mass atrocities
That would really hurt, or not ... ???
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Much like the premise of this article. No doubt, an overly polarised idiot would immediately take that vid for an insidious CIA/Mossad colour revolution gambit. Where she's free to prance around to Pharrell Williams songs all day with the wind blowing through her hair. I'd ask for my money back if I were you.
Anyway, seems to me a bit bizarre that a Muslim cleric should be concerned with "the right kind of idolatry".
The history of Iran/Persia, at least for the last hundred years (before that, I know zip-all about) has been all about polarisation. From one unsatisfactory hard switch to another, with lots of outside interference.
Polarisation and separating the fine from the course, don't really go together.
I don't think Americans hero-worship Spongebob Squarepants.
They have "bootleg" Spongebob Squarepants in Iran...[Link]
I doubt if Iranians hero-worship Spongebob Squarepants, either.
The premise of the article is pretty null.
I would also like to point out that a lot of the people now expertly waxing long and large about Soleimani had never heard of him before last week.
Major crux... Who's fault? Mine I suppose?
Own your stuff.
Not much, Hutch.
I've never been much of an optimist, but when all sorts truth became unavoidable (say by 2010), , I - irrationally, in retrospect - found myself hopeful for some sort of turn for the better - but instead it seems the West is bound and determined to continue, both figuratively and literally, 'slouching towards Bethelhem."
I just never thought the West was going to be that scary, rough beastie.
RC
I wonder what would/has happened in S.A. after similar events? My guess is heads have rolled - quite literally.
This is why, of all religions, I distrust both Shia and Sunni (Islam) for, as I understand it*, both sects/'schismisms' still aspire to the same goal: forced conversion of the world to Islam. (Meanwhile, Talmudic Zionista Jews - controlling IsRaHell & FUKUS, et al. - likewise want to take over the world (they're a lot closer to it than anyone else) and as I understand it, they wanna keep at least some goyim around . . . as slaves.
Contrast what those three say vs. "judge not lest ye be judged,' et al., ad inf."; Which religion would be more likely to inspire individual liberty? You know the answer. (And hell, I never even read a bible until around 1/2002.*)
R.C.
*I've written this before here, and do not recall anyone ever replying and standing up to claim that Islam did NOT seek that.***
**I was shocked at the difference between the New and Old Testaments (first read the latter ~ 2004). I'm sure it was the Southern Baptist Church's focus on the latter's judmentalism, fire & brimstone, et al., which ultimately resulted in our family having 'no church.' (Or was it that no church would have us? I forget.)
*** That fact - no one quoting the Koran etc. - reminds me of when there was going to be a debate about 9/11/2001: FUKUSrael “Insider Attack”/MIHOP, Vs. / OR 'Official Sh*tty Story' (‘OSS’)****, in Europe around 2005? As I recall, the first person who was going to argue for the 'Official Story', got cold feet. Then, they couldn’t have the debate because they couldn’t find anyone in the world to argue in favor of the OSS.
**** Yeah, that abbreviation's not a coincidence.
P.s., Finally , I do not think that there is any ‘historical’/‘official story’ (e.g., JFK, Pearl Harbor, The Fed, etc.), that possesses a less defensible position, or has more available and proven contrary facts, than the ‘official story’ of 9/11/2001. And given all the lies we’ve been told throughout history, that is a high bar to cross - but the OSS has passed it.
RC
If Oxajil's "crux" is idolatry-fixation, maybe she should go into therapy.
He is in a bubble of his own construction. He's not to dissimilar to Trump - they think they have it all figured out and it's everyone else who is deluded.
Can't be helped.
Yeah, you are being literalist. That's not her crux, it's that the US population is mostly comprised of blinkered ignoramuses fed a world view based on delusional juvenile jingoism and 'baddies vs goodies'. As such, spongebob is a very appropriate icon for the entire nation. As for therapy, I'd suggest you get some to explore the reason you repeatedly get into shit-flinging episodes here, with all and sundry.
What's really coming over here is that you and Oxajil are both polarised in 'baddies vs goodies' mode, and are accusing everyone else of suffering from the same condition.
Joe said... And then I said... Collapse of bubble.
Most of this brouhaha has been about refusing to own ones own stuff, and protecting ones own turf.
From 2008:
Warpimp Bolton: US should bomb Iranian camps
John Bolton, America's ex-ambassador to the United Nations, has called for US air strikes on Iranian camps where insurgents are trained for war in Iraq. Mr Bolton said that striking Iran would...And that's just the first of 240+ Sott articles he's mentioned in.