The officials told NBC News he was found at 7:30 a.m. ET at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York and that he hanged himself.
He was transported Saturday morning from the Metropolitan Correctional Center to a hospital in Lower Manhattan. Upon arrival, he was in cardiac arrest, people familiar with the matter say.
Epstein, 66, was being held on federal sex trafficking charges.
He was arrested July 6 in Teterboro, New Jersey, as he returned from Paris on a private jet.
He had pleaded not guilty and was denied bail.
The indictment on his case showed that he sought out minors, some as young as 14, from at least 2002 through 2005 and paying them hundreds of dollars in cash for sex at either his Manhattan townhouse or his estate in Palm Beach, Florida, federal prosecutors revealed last month.
Epstein was charged with one count of sex trafficking conspiracy and one count of sex trafficking. He faced up to 45 years in prison if found guilty.
Comment: Recall that he was also found with ligature marks on his neck a few weeks ago, then put on 'suicide watch'.
Just in the last few days, documents were introduced into his trial concerning British royal Prince Andrew, his London 'socialite girlfriend' Ghislaine Maxwell, and connections were made between his brother and Clintonistas Adam Schiff and Debbie Wasserman Schultz. And that's not all. RT reports:
According to court documents unsealed a day before his death, another alleged victim claims that Epstein trafficked her and other girls to some of the world's wealthiest and most powerful men, including British Prince Andrew, billionaire investor Glenn Dublin, and former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. The victim's list also includes "another prince," a "foreign president," a "well-known prime minister," and the owner of a French "large hotel chain."Like we said when he was arrested, Epstein was a dead man walking...
In a way, it's amazing they didn't do this before now, because for the last month or so there's been an unusually intense spotlight on the US, UK and Israeli elites Epstein worked for...
See also: Mega Group, Maxwells And Mossad: The Spy Story at The Heart of The Jeffrey Epstein Pedo Scandal
Twitter was ablaze with the news, with many questioning the 'suicide'. Some are convinced the Clintons are behind Epstein's death...
UPDATE 21:00 CET
From the Daily Caller: Bill Barr Says Epstein's Death 'Raises Serious Questions'
Attorney General Bill Barr said Saturday he was "appalled" to learn of Jeffrey Epstein's apparent suicide and promised an investigation into the circumstances of Epstein's death.The New York Post published photos purporting to be Epstein being taken to hospital:
The convicted sex offender and financier was found dead in his Manhattan jail cell Friday night at the age of 66.
"I was appalled to learn that Jeffrey Epstein was found dead early this morning from an apparent suicide while in federal custody," Barr said in a statement. "Mr. Epstein's death raises serious questions that must be answered."
The attorney general added that the FBI was investigating Epstein's death, and that the inspector general would open a separate investigation as well.
"In addition to the FBI's investigation, I have consulted with the Inspector General who is opening an investigation into the circumstances of Mr. Epstein's death," Barr said.
Barr's statements echo the sentiments of several politicians and pundits who have expressed exasperation that Epstein was able to commit suicide just weeks after being placed on a suicide watch list following a failed attempt.
Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said "We need answers. Lots of them," to which Republican Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz agreed, calling on House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler to prioritize an investigation into Epstein's death over investigations into Russia and Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.
Meanwhile, MSNBC host Joe Scarborough called the apparent suicide "bullsh*t" and "predictably Russian," while left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore said "I guess they think a country dumb enough to elect Trump is stupid enough to believe Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide."
Paramedics frantically tried to revive convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein early Saturday morning after he was found unresponsive in his cell in downtown Manhattan, exclusive photos shot by The Post reveal.While Breitbart reports that several sources said Epstein had been removed from suicide watch:The 66-year-old disgraced financier hanged himself in his cell in 9 South at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, according to multiple sources.© William Farrington
EMTs attempt to revive Jeffrey Epstein as he's wheeled into New York Downtown Hospital.
A call was placed to first responders around 6:30 a.m. as MCC staff tried to revive him, said the FDNY and Bureau of Prisons.
Photos of Epstein taken around 7:30 a.m. show the convicted pedophile still wearing his orange prison jumpsuit as he's wheeled on a gurney into New York Downtown Hospital.
The images show a drawn, ashen face with closed eyes, and EMTs using a breathing apparatus in an attempt to revive the multi-millionaire convicted pedophile.
Epstein was later declared dead at the hospital.
Sex offender and accused sex-trafficker Jeffrey Epstein was not on suicide watch at the time of his death, according to several reports.The latests documents to be unsealed may have been the final straw in the Epstein scandal, but for whom? RT reports:
Prison officials found the disgraced billionaire dead in his jail cell early Saturday morning. Multiple reports are calling his death an apparent suicide via hanging, although it has come with suspicion, as Epstein was believed to be on suicide watch. However, officials told the New York Post that Epstein was not on suicide watch at the time of his death.
According to the New York Post:The Associated Press also reported that the billionaire was taken off suicide watch:Department of Justice spokesman Lee Plourde told The Post that Epstein, 66, was not "currently" on watch in his cell at the Manhattan Correctional Facility while he awaited trial on child sex-trafficking charges.
Plourde refused to say whether that meant Epstein had been taken off additional monitoring or whether he had never been getting special attention to make sure he did not kill himself.
"I'm not going to discuss his previous medical status," he said.NBC News had a similar report:A person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press that Epstein had been taken off suicide watch. The person wasn't authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke to AP on condition of anonymity. It wasn't immediately clear when he was taken off suicide watch.Epstein, 66, was in his federal jail cell in downtown Manhattan but was not on suicide watch at the time of his death, multiple people familiar with the investigation told NBC News. He had apparently hanged himself, and was found unresponsive at around 6:30 a.m. ET.
The files were unsealed on Friday as part of an ongoing lawsuit filed by Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre against the businessman's ex-girlfriend and so-called "madam," Ghislaine Maxwell. Giuffre alleges Epstein and Maxwell forced her into sex, and trafficked her to other wealthy and powerful men.Paul Joseph Watson comments:
In a deposition included in the unsealed records, Giuffre said she was ordered by Epstein and Maxwell to give erotic massages and have sex with men, ranging from Prince Andrew, billionaire investor Glenn Dubin - whose wife claimed to be "100% comfortable" with having Epstein around her children - and former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, who has admitted to meeting with Epstein on his Zorro Ranch once in 2002, but denies Giuffre's charge.
Also on the list is modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, whose MC2 agency was allegedly used to recruit and traffic girls as young as 12 to Epstein and other wealthy men. Giuffre mentions "another prince," a "foreign president," a "well-known prime minister," and the owner of a French "large hotel chain," but seems frustrated she can't "recall all of the people," largely because there were so many of them. "I was told to do something by these people constantly," she testifies, explaining, "my whole life revolved around just pleasing these men."Epstein allegedly told another of his accusers that he required "three orgasms a day" - that "it was biological, like eating." Another claimed his anatomy was deformed - "egg-shaped," to be exact. The unsealed documents also included photographs, including nude snapshots of prepubescent girls. Giuffre said she was made to watch as Epstein and Maxwell indulged in "illegal sexual acts with dozens of underage girls."Their whole entire lives revolved around sex.
In perhaps the most disturbing disclosure, the documents also contain a receipt indicating Epstein bought books pertaining to sadomasochism and sexual slavery, including the titles SM 101: A Realistic Introduction,SlaveCraft: Roadmaps for Erotic Servitude and Training with Miss Abernathy: A Workbook for Erotic Slaves and Their Owners. Giuffre's attorneys say the purchases support her account of sexual exploitation at the hands of Epstein and Maxwell.
While the documents reveal that both President Donald Trump and former President Bill Clinton had dealings with Epstein - whether on his private jet or on one of his luxurious properties - Giuffre noted in the deposition that Clinton had no involvement in the sex-trafficking ring, and that Trump "didn't partake in any sex" with underage girls.
Giuffre first sued Maxwell in 2015 for her role in Epstein's sex ring, and later filed a second defamation suit after Maxwell accused her of lying. The records released Friday have been under seal as part of that case, for which Maxwell failed to obtain a summary dismissal in 2017.
UPDATE Aug 11 12:4500 EDT
"I question whether or not it was a true suicide attempt that Mr Epstein was involved in in jail or whether or not there may be some powerful people who just don't want him to talk. If he goes on trial, everyone he's been in contact with will ultimately be fair game. There's no doubt in my mind that no jail will protect you when there's powerful people that want to reach you - wherever you are. If he's going to implicate anyone in power that has the ability to reach in and somehow get to him - his life is definitely in jeopardy.From the Daily Mail:
"I do question whether it was a true suicide attempt. I mean how do you choke yourself? It doesn't make any sense. There are reports someone came after him but that could just be because he's a paedophile. Those types of individuals don't last long in prison. If Epstein is in general population or anywhere available to the general population I believe his life is in jeopardy. They will have to seal him down in the jail. But even there there are still people who can get to him, ultimately."
- The Sun, 'IN DANGER' Jeffrey Epstein's life 'in jeopardy' as powerful pals 'don't want their secrets out', victim's lawyer claims
A separate source revealed to DailyMail.com that Epstein actually told prison guards and fellow inmates that he believed someone had tried to kill him in the weeks before his death.CNBC reports:
The insider, who had seen the disgraced financier on several occasions during his incarceration at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, also claims that the normally reserved Epstein seemed to be in good spirits.
'There was no indication that he might try to take his own life,' the source told DailyMail.com
'From what I saw, he was finally starting to adjust to prison. I think he was comforted by the rigidity of his new life.'
He was, by all accounts, the kind of inmate that should have been under the closest possible supervision.
Instead, Epstein was taken off suicide watch in the days before he took his own life, officials told NBC News, a decision that baffled former wardens and veterans of the federal prison system.
"For them to pull him off suicide watch is shocking," Cameron Lindsay, a former warden who worked at three federal facilities, told NBC News. "For someone this high-profile, with these allegations and this many victims, who has had a suicide attempt in the last few weeks, you can take absolutely no chances. You leave him on suicide watch until he's out of there."
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The conditions would have required him to be moved to a special bare-bones cell where he would be outfitted in a tear-resistant one-piece smock and receive stepped-up observation from a staffer or inmate posted outside, according to Lindsay and sources familiar with Epstein's case.
But Epstein's status was changed sometime in the last two weeks for reasons that remain unknown, officials told NBC News. The decision would normally have to have been authorized by the jail's suicide prevention program coordinator, who is ordinarily the institution's chief psychologist, and approved by the warden.
"Once an inmate has been placed on watch, the watch may not be terminated, under any circumstance, without the program coordinator or designee performing a face-to-face evaluation," according to the federal Bureau of Prison official guidelines issued in 2007.
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"It's too early to say what I think should happen, but if this did occur as we believe that it did, some staff are going to have some hard questions to answer, I'm afraid," said Lindsay, who served as warden at the nearby Metropolitan Detention Center from 2007 to 2009.
Bob Hood, a former federal Bureau of Prisons chief of internal affairs and former warden at the ADX Florence "supermax" prison in Colorado, said he also was perplexed by the decision to remove the suicide safeguards.
"Under the circumstances, I would have a staff member sitting there or have a camera on him 24/7 while he was in my custody, purely to cover my butt," said Hood. "I know that sounds tacky, but this is not your average inmate."
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Jack Donson, a former longtime federal Bureau of Prisons case manager, told NBC News that suicide watch in federal lockup "usually only lasts a few days to week" due to the amount of manpower the 24-hour surveillance entails.
"It requires staff to do overtime shifts," Donson said, and is "not considered a good use of resources."
Federal staff members will "make an assessment" about when they believe that "imminent danger" to the inmate has passed, and then the warden and chief psychologist make a determination about what to do with the inmate, Donson said.
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Epstein's suicide has led some involved in his case to wonder whether he received outside help.
"It simply does not make common sense that Jeffrey Epstein was not on suicide watch," said Jack Scarola, a lawyer who represents seven of Epstein's alleged victims. "And it does not make common sense that if he was on suicide watch he could have successfully taken his own life unless he had some outside help."
Reader Comments
They can only be so blatant as they know they'll get away with it. ABSOLUTE BS.
If anyone needed any proof as to the impunity of the psychos in charge, here it is. Rock solid proof they can't be touched.
I'm smilin' in hopes of a valid link. (It's not that I doubt it - I try to keep my mind open - but I've never heard that before. (My previous 'best guess' was that he was whacked for the insurance money.)
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My best guess: we'll laugh at it in the next life/dimension.
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Sometimes, there actually is a straw that breaks the camel's back. I aim to go after and denounce every public official, every official media source that signs on to the line of Official Bilge.
A clear demonstration to those not already convinced of the deep-rooted and sytematic corruption in the ruling regime.I don't expect any deliverance from this.
I wonder how many flaketard squeemers are rushing to their Twitter accounts to howl "Trump dunnit!!!!"
I don't expect any deliverance from this.Just like you rushing to defend lord and savior Trump. Not so different after all. Lol
I wonder how many flaketard squeemers are rushing to their Twitter accounts to howl "Trump dunnit!!!!"
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"Just like you rushing to defend lord and savior Trump."
Probably as good as an example of someone 'projecting what they want' as you could find.
Probably as good as an example of someone 'projecting what they want' as you could find.
T! WC.*
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Touche'! With Chuckle.
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.Epstein’s death/William Barr???? The Department of Justice is headed by the United States Attorney General, who is nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate and is a member of the Cabinet. The current Attorney General is William Barr.
This is on AG Barr’s head. He knew how much damage Epstein would do. Barr was in control of the correctional facility. He has some serious explaining to do. Sloppy, incompetent, complicit, criminal action of murder to destroy evidence?? Yes!
However, again I repeat, I seriously doubt that Epstein is dead, like the guy had a 77 million dollar house, and that's just for starters, he could be anywhere, whose going to know? Honestly the whole thing stinks to high heaven.
I'm thinking someone helped him fake his death so that he can continue supplying the rich and powerful with little kids to abuse. He's probably in Saudi Arabia partying with Michael Jackson...Him, Lord Lucan, Shergar, Hitler, Elvis and Madelin McCann, all playing poker.
Yeah, he went to 'Tampa' with the kids.
I'm sure the American Justice System will find out the truth anyway. SARCASM!
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Move along, nothing to see here says the PTB/MSM - not only now, but throughout your quite reasonable expectation of events.
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In a year or so nobody will be able to find the prison guards who were on duty when this happened. They will have suddenly inherited very large amounts of money and retired to a tropical paradise. Shortly thereafter they will mysteriously die from a sudden cardiac arrest! In a year or so some several inmates who are currently in this prison will be pardoned and released. They also will later be found mysteriously deceased of cardiac arrest!I would suggest it's worth screengrabbing that comment and saving for future reference.
I predicted one month ago he would forgoe some tragic accident.
"I predicted one month ago he would
NRN - I know what you meant. No insults; no worries.
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Plane Will R.C. playing Grammar Gestapo here:Haha, yes I'm always open to some grammar correction, cheers. On holiday in Portugal with many, many beers and this may not be my last mistake in the coming week lol
"I predicted one month ago he wouldforgoeundergo some tragic accident"
NRN - I know what you meant. No insults; no worries.
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“ Security Officer Campos advised he was shot with a BB or pellet gun. ”That statement continues to bother me. It makes no sense. Campos heard automatic fire, then thinks he was shot with a BB or pellet gun?[Link]
Whatever Became of Las Vegas Shooting ‘Hero’ Jesus Campos?
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(I trust you understand my agreement with your point, hence: NRN.
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"If you're surprised that Epstein committed suicide, just imagine how surprised he was."
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P.s, It should go without saying, (at least here), kudos for acknowledging that you are quoting from another. (FWIW, I believe I’ve used two tried and true ‘expressions’ today - and in each, like you, acknowledged the source as best I could remember.
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From Paul William's brilliant book 'OPERATION GLADIO'
SPILLING HIS GUTS
While awaiting trial, Sindona made contact with Nick Tosches, an American journalist who penned articles for the New York Times, Rolling Stone, and the Village Voice. When the reporter arrived at Voghera, the caged don began to spill his guts. He spoke of matters that never before had been revealed to the press, including the US government’s protection of the drug trade and how they had allowed “dirty money to accumulate in the hands of a few men.” Sindona maintained that US agencies, such as the President’s Commission on Organized Crime, functioned not to find dirty money but rather to “create it.” He added that such agencies often captured “intermediaries in the drug trade,” but never the real “crime lords,” who had become “the world’s establishment.”
Sindona spoke of Gelli, P2, and the fear of an Italian Communist dictatorship that gave rise to the strategy of tension. He said that he sent regular reports on developments within the Italian Communist Party to US ambassador Martin and the White House. And he talked about the Vatican and the IOR’s involvement in laundering dirty money:
But Sindona was not completely candid with Tosches. Still clinging to the hope that the powerful political leaders he had served, including Prime Minister Andreotti, would effect his release, he did not speak of his pivotal roles in such enterprises as establishing the heroin trade between the Sicilian and American Mafias, implementing the strategy of tension with the millions of dollars he had received from Ambassador Martin, creating massive financial holes for the disappearance of billions in cash, commissioning the killing of Giorgio Ambrosoli, and planning his own bizarre kidnapping. He also neglected to mention his long-standing ties with the CIA in a covert operation called Gladio. It was best, he thought, not to play all his aces.
TRUSTING A MOLE
Weeks before his trial for fraudulent bankruptcy, Sindona began to receive visits from P2 members who, no doubt, reminded him - once again - of his oath of secrecy to the lodge and of how the Masonic society was able to arrange Gelli’s miraculous escape from the Champ-Dollon prison in Switzerland. Sindona became subdued and underwent a change of mind about turning his trial into a “circus.” When the trial began on December 12, 1984, the Mafia financier requested it proceed without his presence in the courtroom. The strange request was granted. On the Ides of March 1985, he was sentenced to twelve years in prison. The prosecutor, Guido Viola, calling Sindona “one of the most dangerous criminals in judicial history,” had asked for fifteen years.
Sindona’s trial for the murder of Ambrosoli began on June 4, 1985. It would drag on for nine months, since the lead witness William Arico, whom Sindona had hired to make the hit, had died during an alleged “escape attempt” from a New York jail. In a letter to Rocchi dated February 5, 1986, Sindona wrote, “I want to talk about scandalous matters that constitute grave moral and penal irregularities about which I have remained silent until now to maintain the professional reserve to whom I have always wished to be faithful.” Rocchi responded by writing, “Let the great battle against you-know-who begin and let me have all the necessary documents. Take care not to forget anything, neither the national aspects nor the USA ones” Sindona, still unaware that Rocchi was a CIA agent, surrendered all of his notes and documents. Rocchi patted the prisoner on the shoulder and gave him solemn assurance that his release was imminent, despite the verdict in the murder trial. Sindona believed him.
“THE TORTELLINI IS GOOD”
When Tosches paid a visit to the prison on May 8, he saw immediately that Sindona looked much better than he had in the fall. “His brown eyes were bright,” the reporter noted, “and he had obviously gained some needed weight.” He expressed no fear of the verdict and offered no lament of his fate. Instead, he patted his stomach and said, ‘The tortellini is good in thus town.” On March 18, 1986, Mercator Senesis Romanam Curiani (“the leading banker of the Roman Curia) was sentenced to spend the rest of his life in prison. He was sent back to the prison at Voghera. Three television cameras were installed in Sindona’s solitary cell to monitor his every move. A cadre of twelve guards, working in shifts of two, kept watch over him night and day. His food was prepared in a special kitchen by chiefs under stringent supervision.
On March 20, Sindona rose from his cot to take breakfast. As always, his plastic plate and pressed foam coffee cup were sealed. It was eight-thirty. He carried the coffee cup with him through the door that led to the toilet. Minutes later, the Mafia don emerged from the bathroom, his shirt covered with vomit, his face convulsed with horror. “Mi hanno avvelenato,” he screamed. “They have poisoned me!”
These were his last words. Sindona was rushed to a nearby hospital where he was found to be in an irreversible coma. A lethal dosage of potassium cyanide was detected in his blood. Forty-eight hours later Michele Sindona – the man known as St Peter’s banker - was dead.
His death was only to be expected. The Gladio agents possessed the keys to every prison. ‘They could manage the escape of Agca from a cell in Turkey, and Gelli from a jail in Switzerland. They could arrange the jailhouse deaths of Henri Arsan of Stibam and General Santovito of SISMI. And they could poison the coffee of a celebrated Mafiosi who remained in solitary confinement within a maximum-security prison.
Recently, I was playing guitar at an open mike. A kid/drummer, (age 25) and I started chatting. He seemed relatively 'on the ball' / 'aware' of the world; and yet when I asked him "how many towers collapsed on 9/11/01?" he quickly answered 2.
I reminded him of his obligations as a citizen in a supposedly 'free' society and to do his own online research - with one hint: "WTC-7".
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Roberto Calvi, whose illicit financial maneuverings eventually cost the Vatican $250 million, was found dead in June, 1982, hanging by a rope from London’s Blackfriars Bridge in circumstances that remain a mysteryCatholics murdering people under "Black Friars" bridge - It seems such an obvious tell now
Coppola put his niece in, ruining the flick.
(Just the way casting idiot Keanu Reaves oppostie Al Pacino in the Devil's Advocate made it painful to watch. (A GREAT Pacino flick you might not have seen? Carlito's Way with Sean Penn as his coked out lawyer. HINT: DO NOT WATCH THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES AS IT SHOWS THE ENDING FOR NO VALID REASON.)
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The corruption in the us is more visible then the poorest african countries, what a farce
Unlike TV you can't close the eyes and mouth after death and have them stay that way.
In the past it was custom to remove belts and shoe lasses from prisoners to insure they couldn't do them selves in.
Now we live in an age of mass surveillance but somehow cameras are never used where criminal activity is present.
While Epstein may have been well-known due to press coverage, he certainly did not fall into the class of prominent/influential/powerful individuals that are TPTB. Thus, Epstein’s “suicide” not only deprived the victims of legally imposed justice, it is also a confirmation that our system not only allows, but actively assists, the prominent/influential/powerful to escape justice for their criminality.
In a world in which it has become commonplace (and even required, in some jurisdictions) to accept the “identification” of contrafactual items to be true, it is very easy to imagine that TPTB would also "identify" murder as suicide when it suits their purposes. Couple that with the recently released assertions by the FBI that anyone who believes in "conspiracy theories" (i.e., beliefs that conflict with what TPTB tell us) should be considered to be a potential dissident/extremist/terrorist/whatever, it becomes quite easy to recognize that we are on a trajectory towards a state in which it will be dangerous/illegal to disagree with “official” explanations of events.
My first reaction was "did they poison him?" and ...well, it never mattered how they would get him but they did and here we are mulling over how justice has been ripped out from under us. And poor ol' Billy Barr, the poor man is crying foul when he could easily have pulled some strings to have Epstein locked up in a more appropriate facility... like a New York mansion... Okay, Okay... that's unfair... A lock-up where this shit wouldn't have happened. At the end of the day all I can say is F'cking America!
What a very sad state of affairs
BOOOoooooo!!!!
I asked him how many towers collapsed on 9/11/01; he said "two". I pointed out to him his responsibility as an adult in a supposedly free country to seek the truth - NOT to merely listen to the MSM. I told hiim about WTC-7 and to research ithimself. I doubt he will.
LIKE MOST AMERICANS UNDER 30, HE WAS UNAWARE OF WTC-7! HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? MSM programming, of course; plus dumbed down schools.
Argh! It disgusts me too!
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It's so sad, I don't know what to say. I really feel for you Americans having to put up with this. I mean... what do you do? And all of those girls. And now justice - real justice flew out the window. I heard about it this morning... it's past midnight now. But I've been fighting crime in my land with what my government intends to do and now I have the time to catch up with the news and the world is just... unjust. I'm shattered. It's got to stop.
You know, I played the Hilary clip above and for a moment it was funny and then I remembered how evil she is and what evil she has done to girls like the ones Epstein likes and suddenly it was not funny at all because I saw it as a joke on us and not the other way round.
I had to watch my mother in law die from lung cancer a couple weeks ago, and I will assure you it takes a couple of hours for a body to start to turn that color ON THE TOP SIDE OF IT.
He is dead and long gone.
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*Did you know he wrote Mott the Hoople's 'All the Young Dudes"? I'd guess....you do ~ 60/40.
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Dr. Michael Baden was present at the autopsy that was conducted today. He got his medical degree in 1960 (born in 1934) and was chairman of the House Select Committee on Assassinations' Forensic Pathology Panel that investigated the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Dr. Barbara Sampson, the NYC Chief Medical Examiner who conducted the autopsy, is currently delaying publication of her findings "pending further information at this time".
It can be tricky determining whether an individual has a broken neck or crushed windpipe. Quite a bit of consultation and deliberation is involved. We must be patient!
Here, we are deprived of those.
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And people think human biographies are filled with random events?
A couple of night guards, who were just following orders to stay out of that wing, and possibly someone else who was pulled off of monitoring the CCTV, will be fired for dereliction of duty. Maybe their supervisor will be forced to resign as well.
Their names will not be revealed to the public, and their work records will be expunged of any black mark in exchange for silence.
Rowan Cocoan No idea, You Tube's AI must have been on a tea break .. it came up as a suggestion, it wasn't a channel that I had watched beforeMy YT is still f*@led..
had to turn off autoplay a few weeks back as it keeps throwing up mainstream crap when trying to watch the opposite.
Setting us up to believe he was murderedNo. I thought at first that he had been murdered, but now this situation is looking like a classic psyops affair. It's becoming clear that the constantly shifting scenarios, and improbable/inexplicable circumstances (a recent example being the 'fact' that the guards were sleeping, quickly substituted for the 'fact' that they were called away so maintenance could be done), are being rolled out in a purposefully contradictory and confusing stream. When elite dirty laundry stinks enough to alarm the public, psyops always kicks into high gear. It's very possible that this could have been a play produced by psyops entirely for the purpose of obfuscation and distraction.
The only 'fact' you can count on to be true is that a garbage truck load of 'information' is being dumped to befuddle us. The point isn't for you to know one thing or another, but rather for you to be able to either pick and choose from a smorgasbord of 'facts' to form an opinion, or to give up trying. Meanwhile, as the investigative journalists and armchair detectives narrow their focus to gnaw on the tasty Jeff Epstein bone forevermore, the systemic factors that allow such elite corruption and predation to continue remain largely unaddressed. If we are being 'set up', it's for this.
-That 9/11/2001 was NOT a 'let it happen on purpose" event, (LIHOP); indeed, that requires infinitely more unlikely events to be proven as opposed to the far more simple truth. Yet yer average AmeriKant Idiot who falls into those who 'question' or ' don't believe' the official story, - supposedly a majority - if all and only those were polled, you'd find probably 2/3 in favor of LIHOP because it doesn't require recogniition of the proven malevolent and intentional actions of the 'playahs' and reveals just how widespread the scam/corruption is. (Of course, if folks were being logical - they ain't (Surprise! NOT!) - then the percentage of LIHOP believers would be single digit.
- Ad inf. (Not up to listing.)
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There was an article on Sott that listed 10 or more pieces of evidence but it disappeared very quickly. If anyone remembers and knows where it came from I would welcome the link.
Keep up the good fight.
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*But control the words allowed = 'thinkable' .... and you can control the world. (Orwell, Nineteen Eighty Four.)
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I agree that it's unproductive to speculate about this any longer, since the obfuscation experts are so obviously committed to making it impossible to come to any conclusions. As always, we're left with chewing our own tails in the hope that circular reasoning will result in infinite awareness. Ha!
Fred West is another that springs to mind.