It's been fun, at times, but the technological behemoth it gave rise to is killing us. Sometimes literally, but for the most part culturally. As an experiment in social networking that would 'progress humanity', the core belief that fueled its most ardent proponents and techie innovators, it has failed. In aggregate, its net result has been the generation of a new set of oligarchs and a general population that is increasingly bombarded with lies and half-truths about reality, downloading instructions through corrupt intermediaries about how they should think, feel and act.
Certainly, the Internet is integrated with everything in our lives now, but it has to go. Or rather, it ought to go. This week on NewsReal, Joe and Niall explore this idea as a philosophical exercise. They are not seriously proposing that people go out and 'burn it all down' - rather, that people maintain as much intellectual and emotional distance from it as possible. In any event, the Internet age will likely naturally come to an end soon enough.
Live audio version of this episode of NewsReal with Joe & Niall aired Sunday 9 September on Sott Radio
Running Time: 01:13:57
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The internet has fulfilled it's purpose in exposing the existence of evil. It also exposes the existence of good too. Getting rid of any technology will always be the equivalent of 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater'. Because it is a tool, nothing more. Just like Joe's "rope", even though it was meant in a metaphorical sense instead of the literal one.
Recently, I had to find out more about technology and I was completely startled at how much I didn't know and to be honest how much I didn't want to know. Just looking at YouTube presentations and looking for a new computer on line, it occurred to me that it's actually 'gamers' who are DRIVING tech innovation. Like the 'space race' of old. I can't say the same for patients in the medical system. They are more like slaves to the system or 'farmed' like animals. I wonder if the same will ever occur with humans and technology? It hasn't yet. At least, that we know of, and not mainstream. We can simply turn our technology off if we don't want it. We don't have the same option with some things.
Well for nearly 10 years i have been doing just that...
I have seen Zero refutations for my theory.
FDNY called the end of fire on December 19 2001.
Now what could have caused a rubble filled concrete basement to burn for 99 days?
What could have caused reports of boots melting,molten steel,Like a foundry and shit like the 'Meteorite'?
How do you get 1200 degree temperature measurements from a satellite Infrared thermography a month after the event?
Every single rescue dog that worked that pile is DEAD, Most of the persons that worked that pile are sick or dead.
Sure there was and asbestos part to play,A certain americium touch from the Smoke detectors,and a mercury component.... but do you think the damage from asbestos and those others would be limited to the first responders ...??......
Sort of puts your thinking on display.
No refutations there.
Care to give it another go?
That device was known as a tuned mass damper system... A system that made the very flexible towers work in the New York winds.... With out them working the tower had to be evacuated lest the occupants be made seasick from the swaying. If you worked near the top and had to endure this you would never set foot in this building again from the fear.
Now this Tuned Mass Damper is a well understood thing in very tall buildings, The mass is used to counteract the wind loading and spring back effect of counter loading turbulence around the outside of the square tube structure.
A building like this had to have a very advanced version of a TMD to make the building safe, An active tuned mass damper system. The mass was controlled by a series of connections like Shock Absorbers, These were used to digitally modulate the motions of the damper to increase the efficiency of the system and give it a better damping signature in the environment they worked.
I contend the main portion of those dampers the mass part were made of two parts a concrete box with a steel bottom plating and a filling of Uranium-238 granules for the mass part. With the limited and costly space requirements this would be the most efficient material to use to do this work, And had a secondary use.... After life of the structure had expired.
Uranium-238 is what is known a pyrophoric substance.. [Link]
If you get it hot enough it will burn until it is totally consumed, Now i have never intentionally burned 600 PLUS TONS of U-238 but i can tell you it will burn in excess of 5600 degrees... And it's not going to burn fast either.... But rather as a process over time according to the environment it is contained.....
Once burning there is no hope of putting out these fires. And has anyone else noted the symptoms of the men working at 'GROUND ZERO" have the same traits of GULF WAR SYNDROME???
So you have read the claim i have about the fire that burned for 99 days without any added fuel. I claim these men are victims of a Uranium-238 fire from structural building components.
But the Structural components part is SECONDARY to the main use for all that uranium, Evidence disposal.
Or to say it another way... The twin towers were built from day one with this 9/11 event in mind.
All buildings have a 'shelf life', which in their arrogance, in the 1960's, they probably hadn't factored it in. It was well past the date where it could be safely and economically destroyed. So, they did it illegally, with much death and destruction and used it as a pretext for war.
Building of the World Trade Center
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I started with the video record, I watched every frame over and over again, All the angles and from all the vantage points.
Then i looked at the things needed to make the video possible, That took some doing.
Then i looked at the gravity of building a pair of towers in the heart of the financial district.... The shit i saw in doing this was stunning...
So to part one.
By now everyone that is thinking and sane can tell these towers were victims of 3 controlled demolition. Much has been said to cloud and obfuscate what really happened, Read (mini-nukes),(Nano-thermate),(Thermite). but all that is just plain Crap. Reach over flip the lever and flush it down.
There has been a gargantuan play book of the towers were weak and near ready to fall bullshit flowing from many angles, Well i will just tell you that is also Crap,Flush #2.
That being flushed into the septic tank we can move on to INSURANCE and the persons that play that game...Now you don't get involved in something like a pair of 1400 foot tall buildings without having given the matter some serious thought, And given the real estate the were being built on the entire lifespan of them HAD to be dealt with from the first shovel full of dirt to their eventual removal after they had reached their end of life cycle. Many of the structures in this sort of environment have similar regulatory constraints on their construction and many of them fall into the 'If shit goes bad WHAT THEN' category.
Insurance fellows are annoyingly like screaming toddlers about liability and who is on the hook if shit does indeed go bad.... They produce scenario after scenario to cover their asses and avoid having to pay out huge sums of cash. These towers are perfect examples of this game theory run amok.
You could not do anything until these forces have a compelling path to fallow from point 'A' to point 'Z' with them still holding all that loot.....
Now the regulators demanded that above all the other dangers of very tall structures these ones had to fend off some serious threats.
So fire and terrorism or any other threat the other buildings surrounding these structures might have to endure had to have thick volumes of assurance that none of them would visit... Pucker factor #1 for the engineers. Then they had to deal with the eventual 'What to do after they are rusted junk and need to be removed' part of the whole scheme... Pucker factor #2. But wait it gets even better, The common industry method of this part of a building like these would produce a HUGE level of LIABILITY ot the owners of these structures... and here is where you will have to do some life sentences to the men that OK'd this plan... They decided that Yes they will eventually have to be brought down and yes there was going to be some real bank killing damages to their cash flows, So what to do....
Call in the Big gun Lawyers and run the game engine until the whole mess is gravy... so what did they think up? Deflect liability with legislation about 'Acts of Terror'
Once they had a plan they went to the engineers and said 'Well, what do you think, Can you do it?' And the pay loving engineer set said sure thin boss not a problem at all.
Once they had a mandate they started to work out the logistics of covering all the bases in regard what was needed to make it all work, If they but Apollo they will buy ANYTHING. So the put to work, First need was a plan to make the perfect demo job for a building that was not even on paper yet, The problem was that for all the chess pieces to have enough room on the board much of the demo work had to be built into the structure at the initial stages of assembly, but taking a page from the NASA boys they came up with the corrugated floor pans that every single floor would eventually be built.
Those would be made from two near identical sheets formed so as when they were put together there was enough space in between for a RDX charge just thick enough to do the job, then the two sheets and the sheet explosive were induction welded on every seam to 'ADD strength' and bond it into one single unit... Then they made the entire puzzle of this building with these units, I don't recall the number of them but their was a shit load of them. Every floor was started with those pans in a grid, and once the concrete was poured, Nobody would ever know that the towers had a bomb on every single floor hidden away in those units. Part one of the big show was in play, the time was the early days of construction.....
What the fuck do we do with all the required records of all this clandestine work done to these towers that they needed to keep that fall going right on target of that foot print... Well like most they shoved it all into the basements for 'Safe keeping' as the day drew near they hoovered up a shitload of the bullion stored there and removed it, leaving a token amount to point at.,,
That's where our previous friend the TMD came in, It's job was to ensure every single thing used to make the whole sick plan work every drawing every inventory every blueprint every single computer file EVERYTHING that could convict them of this crime was totally destroyed 100%... Sounds like a job for a blast furnace to me chimed one of the minions and the U-238 TMD was GO!
After enough time had passed and the big show drew near they had a power down pow-wow and installed all the logic and detonators, all the delays and other bits needed to do in stuff like the elevators and other large shit like the hat truss and associated gear, into the Free spaces above everyone's head hidden away inside the ceiling spaces waited a command from building #7 that had similar work done to it's structure... All that remained was the holy fucking shit of 2 aircraft crashes. and the play was ready to start.
We now sit here nearing the end of 2018, Not one of the persons with the blood on their hands is even being looked at let alone dealt with.... Because you did not get my memo... Well you cannot un-ring the bell no matter how hard you try... Now do your fucking job America and deal with this event before you all regret not doing so.
Time is short now folks, The ball is in your court.
This above commentary tends to kill stuff... So lets just see what goes on here shall we?
I 'd agree with Niall - the show wasn't about 9/11 - so, they weren't built / destroyed just for the cash that this in itself generated
Someone must have gone to the original developers with the request, to enabled "another Pearl Harbour" event
Y'see, this is why the internet needs to go.
Then Joe goes way off the deep end with claims as to why the net must go... Strike two.
There is the photo... sort of drawing a bullseye directly on this being about 9/11... strike three....
And the title? WTF is it supposed to be about with a title like that ?.....strike four.... i think you get the point.
But what did you expect doing a show like this... I agree killing the internet is the reason to do this show, my response is to post my refutation as to why the internet is so important, even with all the moronic dung salted all through the diamonds.
You can't have the nuggets without slogging through tons of overburden can you?
The fatalistic tone of that video talk is so disrespectful of real THINKERS like me i felt the need to get into your faces and show you that you are completely wrong.
Many have not a clue as to the real of 9/11, most of that ignorance is because of stories with this shepherding tactic.
Well Joe and Niall, Keeping a lid on the actual and the important is a loser business. The truth is going to come out, those seen moving that ball forward get the cookie.... Those using landmines and carpet bombing get the coal.
Fact is for 17 years this event has been tended by the likes of you two and we all can see the results of that attention.
Well boys, i have worked through a lot of information in the last eleven years in regards the event and all the stupid shit said about them, And over those many, many hours of reading and search i still have this one sure footing to stand, Not one serious refutation has ever come along to better explain the things i have just touched upon about those fires and the cause of the damages seen and recorded.
If tell be truthful about this, Your commentary just compels the seeker and the thinker to invest more time in the subject.
Thanks Joe, and thank you Niall.... You have not a clue as to your value to the truth with your vitriol.
Keep it up the truth needs you.
Having sat through yet another intelligence free line of crap from these two i found it necessary to add this location to the list of others i have placed this very same commentary this week, I think on the anniversary i will find a couple more to place it too.... because there is enough push back against it to warrant my doing so.... Two places removed the commentary, one suppressed it, Zero hedge even went so far as to completely change their comment system just hours after i posted there.... Ever since mid 2009 once i had fleshed out this idea and started posting it i have seen many attacks and Ad hominem attacks on my person, But just to be clear, Not one person has ever tried to make a rational refutation about ANY of the things i claim on these matters.... with all the shit i have endured over that time and the different forums i have seen trashed or shut down i know i have hit a nail on the head, Both about the 99 day long fire in a concrete bathtub filled with many,man tons of stuff that just plain does not burn, And about the cause of those prolonged fires, Fires that have never EVER been so long or hot.
The intent these two had was to cast doubt onto ANYTHING placed on the internet as crap, My intent in posting here was to present my claims, in direct refutation of their lame attempts to paint all commentary as lame and useless.. they are wrong and i feel i have proved this handsomely.
I hope everyone does some investigation into TMD systems and how substances react to conditions like those of the "GROUND ZERO" site.
The claim at the top of this page is this .... Well, time is well overdue to put this into pratice on a much larger scale, This post tries to get this started, Your work is in doing your part.
There is a movement growing dangerously at present, of censoring content one does not agree with. Alex Jones may have been a total flake, even living in a fantasy world, but censoring him was the thin end of the wedge of complete psychological domination of the human race. You too deserve to be heard and your ideas debated seriously, as they are presented seriously.
As I explained below in my comment on this podcast, lies constantly repeated become part of the background landscape, and are not even questioned or even noticed any more. This is simply how the brain works, and it cannot be changed. Since Edward Bernays, lots of very smart people have been making a scientific study of propaganda and dissemination of misinformation. It has become a science, and an effective one.
Censorship therefore, plays into this propensity of the brain (not just the human brain, but all species,) to assimilate its surroundings and turn them into a picture of reality. I do commend the editors of SOTT most highly for their commitment to let comments stand, unless they advocate violence, are abusive, or are ad hominem attacks on other people with different opinions.
-LG
But like i said in other places you don't build this sort of very flexible structure with out some sort of motion control, At best the things you will find about motion control on the internet is this one lone sentence from a wiki...."The floors were connected to the perimeter spandrel plates with viscoelastic dampers that helped reduce the amount of sway felt by building occupants" Now if you think about this claim hard enough you will come to the same conclusion as me and others, Adding More flex into a structure is not going lessen movement, it will increase it....
At 1368 feet above the ground and being a square tube meant that the sway from wind was a serious problem, so much that one time the large o-ring seals that supported this mass and allowed it to move failed, That failure caused the entire structure to be evacuated until it was replaced. These TMD units were the main system after elevators that made this building a reality.
In the aftermath of this event i went to town on a rocket scooter looking for any of the hard facts about this system i only saw on a 16mm film in school in 84' or 85' after all this time i still have found nothing at all, even blueprints of this building are gone.
WTC7 has a set of architectural drawings for the north tower but have nothing on the TMD, You would need structural drawings to get that data and not one structural drawing of ANY part of the towers has ever been posted on the net. . If you get them from here, [Link] you can see the parts marked
'Unassigned space'
in the HQ versions of them at the 110th floor, this space is where they were placed. In that film about physics we all watched they explained the whole system and how it was so special and could handle the ever changing wind loading and changes in the site over time using active hydraulics to moderate the movement over and above what could be achieved with a passive system like in Taipei 101.
As far as i can tell the towers had two separate moving masses,one on each side of the building and a central computer system to do the work of minimizing the motions. These masses were over the express elevator system that ran from the top to the parking structure in the basement on one side and over the high and mid rise systems on the other, Cutting the cable and brakes on the express elevators and allowing it to plummet to the bottom would do for one damper but the other one needed to have floors blown as well to clear path like the express side.to allow a path from damper to basement, But there is plenty of tell about secondary blasts inside the towers to back up this claim to look at so i kept it on the list.
You don't pull this sort of thing and leave ANY information lying around to hang you.
What the hell do you think this is, SJW kindergarten? FFS. Get a grip of yourself.
I actually do have most of the structural drawing books for the twin towers here. If you let me know what detail in particular you're looking for, I will look it out for you. Drawing book D has the details for the damping system, which was viscoelastic dampers at the perimeter. Here's the general elevation and plan with the installation procedure.
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I see the internet as a form of communication and social media, web sites, etc. as stops along the road. I think the ability to communicate is good - some of the stops along the way are like the different aisles in the grocery store - some good, some overly processed, some all GMO, and more. I think it has brought a lot of convenience to people but at the same time caused them to lose focus on what in life is important - that is why I pretty much skip social media, put my phone down often, and try to focus on family, friends and things I feel are important. Couple the obsession with always being connected or having withdrawal symptoms with all the fake info and you have a recipe for disaster.
Just my 2 cents.
I think we only thrive when we control the tool we are using, not when it controls us.
Times have changed and those gatekeepers are starting to have real trouble putting out rational and truthful stories out.
That is why i like to take a dump into their urine saturated pool.
That is why real serious questions and actual observational logic are so hated by these men so willing to stop the net from its best and most useful works.
Probably you are a child of the TV generation and cannot imagine a world without TV. I can, and lived in such a world until I was about 14 years old. One got one's information from the library, and the quality of the library available was a determinant of the quality of one's informational exposure.
Your observation of people being "force fed lies" by the Internet applies in spades to TV. Even more so, TV is a great medium for arousing emotions and turning millions of individuals into what Gustave Le Bon called "The Crowd," an animal that operates purely on emotion and not on rational thought.
Even when TV documentary programs are designed to inform, rather than misinform, suppress thought, and propagandize on behalf of the oligarchic powers, (such as "The Evening News,") they spend an hour conveying information which one could have gotten from a book in 5 minutes or less.
I have a friend, very well-informed, who says she only watches TV to find out what lies are being told, but even so, I can see she is being influenced and is believing a good part of the lies and propaganda. It is inevitable - that's how our minds work - our brains begin to adapt to any constant stimulus or (mis)information in our environment and it becomes background wallpaper that is incorporated into our picture of reality. Psychology 101: If you stare long enough at any image, then look away, you will see a negative image in a complimentary color imprinted on your corneas. Your brain has adapted to no longer see the image until it is removed. This is how hunters use a blind to stalk prey - after a while the prey animals no longer even see the blind - it just becomes an unseen part of reality. The same happens with a constantly repeated lie.
So, to return to your thesis: When Gutenberg invented movable type in the 1450's, it removed the monopoly of information from the Catholic Church and put it out into the public realm. No doubt, since then a mountain of trash has been written, but nobody seriously suggests burning down all the libraries to protect us from the garbage.
And when radio, film and TV were invented it did the same thing, to a lesser extent because those media are expensive to create and disseminate. All the bullshit on mainstream TV and in the movie theaters does not justify burning all the magnificent movie dramas, documentaries, and independent films that have been produced over the years.
So, the Internet is the same all over again, with the added benefit that it is cheap to put a message or some information out there for a mass audience. Because there are blowhards, liars, thieves and crooks using the Internet for their own antisocial purposes is NOT, NEVER, and never will be, a reason to shut it down and do away with it. Such crooks and liars have been with us since recorded history began - probably in ancient Babylon there were charlatans with bullock carts moving from village to village selling vials of snake oil and magic talismans - and we will never be able to stop them using whatever means is currently available to rip off the public. I say that with great confidence: NEVER.
So, my opinion is a resounding NO. The Internet is here to stay, thank God, until a CME or solar storm takes down our electric grid, and its benefits, for sites like SOTT, Unz Review, Strategic-Culture, RT, Sputnik, The Saker, New Eastern Outlook, Lew Rockwell, Paul Craig Roberts, Fred Reed, The American Conservative, Freeman's Perspective, and scores more, is priceless. Even suggesting doing away with the Internet was, IMHO, just a provocation on your part to see what folks would respond. You cannot have been serious!
Be well,
LG.
Supressing them is an obvious attempt to hide the reality from investigators that are trying to put and end to this controversy.
There is no other reason than this to hide them from public scrutiny..
As for "There is no other reason than this to hide them from public scrutiny," as I said above, anyone ordered to suppress structural drawings, or even destroy them, by a gang of psychopathic mass murderers at the highest levels of power, would be suicidally inclined if they even thought to disobey those people.
Meanwhile, Joe's facetious (IMHO) question as to whether the Internet should be done away with because of the presence of lies and disinformation is unfortunately being sidelined by your excellent comments about 9-11.
My hope is to move the ball downfield, Try to bring some light into the murk of this event.
The (obvious) reality of THDs atop high aspect ratio cantilevers subject to wind storms hadn't crossed my mind in any serious way, and that despite having been in sound and vibration for 40 years.
But half an hour of study after the forehead slap leaves me wondering if modern systems are yet hydraulically actuated servos, it does seem a more effective method. On the other hand though: if it ain't broke . . .
Back to DU: was it shielded, you can't expose all the nice folks like that and not have them get sick. And really, enough heat to melt great big volumes of the bath tub.
Any clues on the often just weird fire/melt damage to the 100s of vehicles around the site? Studying the Russian fellow's work I wondered about stupendous eddy currents from an EMP that might explain, for instance, a perfectly intact auto door still hinged to an otherwise melted wreck. Damnedest bunch of damage I've seen . . .
The Ru fellow does seem to make a lot of sense
I'm going to read this thru a couple times more.
I just read this '9-11 as Mass Ritual' [Link] where the author (over)makes a lot of interesting points, one of which is that the towers were destined from the get-go to be 9/11-d; which, remembering the Cs
admonitionto not underestimate the opposition, I'm willing to accept.I have seen far too much weird shit like half toasted cars and fire engines with out any engines left because the aluminum was melted out to not think there was some sort of directed energy weapon used on the site.... Look up the "Spire collapse" video, and take notice of the weird amber afterglow in the dust post collapse that manifest for a few seconds in several videos, Seeing most of that was enough to dig like mad to explain for me.
There is another problem in regards testing for the post combustion products of DU... the device to do the testing is VERY expensive.
Active or servo-controlled dampers will work rather better as they can be computer driven to act in exact reaction to the building's movement.
Note there are two ATMDs in the illustrated building, each with two degrees of freedom meaning that the system can compensate for not only racking forces from any direction but torsional forces as well.
This show wasn't about 9/11, but more importantly is the WHY? Why did this happen? What agenda does it serve? Where is this intended to go? Who benefits?
Building 7 'collapsing'...[Link]
A case in point is 9/11: The internet was useful for people to communicate with each other about it, by-passing official channels. But within 3 or so years, the '9/11 Truther Movement' descended into farce, with govt agents and narcissistic arseholes running it off the rails and leading people to waste time on the 'how' but not move on by understanding the 'why'.
In the end, when people are obsessed about something, it's a likely indicator that they're not in it for truth. They just want to be seen and heard (virtually, of course - they're too frightened to test their online persona in the real world), and enjoy the attention. That's why they're addicted to The Net.
I guess in that alternative universe, Niall would probably be tending his popular bar and acquiring all the local news and gossip... with Joe occasionally popping in to discuss local issues... telling his kids bedtime stories and at Halloween would tell a story of a world where there was a thing called the internet, a dragon, and an evil witch called Killary... not sure how that horror story would end.
Well anyway... I hope all you guys keep on keeping on. And Thanks for keeping on.
Its the Assholes we let run it who need to go.
Just like a weapon, its the wielder that's responsible. The net is just a com system.
BUT maybe it needs to be dumbed down. Certainly the A.I. needs to be purged. That they would even create that shit shows how stupid and arrogant they are. WTF didn't any of them watch Terminator!?
Now that I have typed this, I can expect the big net A.I. monster to fuck with me.
In the pub I work in, normally the first request is for the drink, and the second is for the Wi-Fi code. We have customers sitting at tables eating and looking at their phones. In a waiting room yesterday, there we 7 of us...5 were on their phones...this is the world over. Imagine having to wean multiple billions of people off their 'highs'?
Thanks for the blurb Joe and Niall...I'm off to a quiet dark corner where I can rock to and fro for a while.......
" [...] , especially for spanners [that's 'monkey wrenches' in Canadian] like Alan Reid."
Time for the Internet to burn Joe, like a big vast mountain of old car tires.
I can see it now -- black oily, smutty electrical smoke against a picture Banff postcard sunset.
All those slags crying, cause their 'Watch me pee' YouTube channels are sparking and burping little explosions in the midst of a raging inferno of billions of mega, peta and exaflops of useless fucking information and pee pee videos.
And as that hell rages and flames reach for the sea-foam colored sky, with a new sun -- a better brighter sun. A sun that has arisen from its Maunder minimum. The vague truth is the last to be burnt and images of Alex Jones and Milo and Sam Harris, the echoed voices of Joseph Patrick Watson and that little jew fuck Ben Shapiro drift up and disintegrate into sparks, like fireflies in flight on a June night. And you and me Joe quaff down a pint a Guinness cream ale, not the bitter stuff. And watch the big fucking bonfire like it was the twelfth.
Yer not protestant are ya Joe, that be a waste of good Guinnesss. Hell yer name is Quinn, and I'm one of the Belfast Quinns, of course yer not protestant.
I digressed for a minute there Joe...anyway.
And then the following morning, the new sun rises, and there in front of us Joe me ole son. The white and cleansed ashes of billions of Internet addresses. The smouldering bits of electronic gadgetry. And there in amongst the ashes the last unburnt sound track from 'Lil Pumps' music video, "ESSKEETIT". And like a skipping record, I poke that lil piece of crap back into the smouldering mess and hear, "SKEETIT, SKEETIT, TOIITII SKEETITITITITITITITITITITITI...petoooey...phzzzzzzz. "
And then...we go back and get another pint of that rather great Guinness Cream Ale. And like the hair of dog, try to get rid of this dreadful hangover from drinking pints and watching the Internet burn.
I got a feeling Joe -- and when I get those feelings, Jesus Christ eating cornflakes on rollers skates, I am usually right, that there are yahoos sending Hallmark cards to each other, with the salutation on the front: "Thinking of you on this fine and Special 911 Day."
A few more years and it will be a proper holiday in America, Joe -- a proper 911 Day. And people should have proper holidays, not these old feekin ones, that are out of date, past their shelf life, like stinky like old cheese.
Don't tell that wanker Niall or he'll wanna come with us..well, okay he can come but he has to buy the Guinessesses.