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Bezel Bub
2020-03-19T22:09:15Z
I believe that the corona pandemic panic is in part at least, covering up something else, something wicked this way a coming. There have been record numbers of CEO's quitting, Bill Gates just dropped out by quitting the board at MicroShaft..etc...
Bezel Bub Good point - never take eyes off the ... target ... no matter what BS is flying around.
Rowan Cocoan And since the world is shut down, this isn't just another USA patriot act level something they WANT to make happen.
Seasonal flu is not as contagious as the coronavirus and it's target is much more specific in it's lethality. If these precautions weren't being taken, the death toll would be much worse than the seasonal flu. It spreads that much more rapidly.
What is this 'specific lethality' you refer to? Contagion does not equal lethality. If high contagion produced 'specific lethality', kissing would result in massive numbers of deaths from the common cold. This coronavirus easily develops into pneumonia in people with compromised immunity. So does the flu. It appears from the statistics cited above that the flu does it much more often and much more readily.
RASE i call bullcrap.
MOST people who died were elderly with very bad health issues to begin with.
as per many statements.
that is who the regular seasonal flu kills.
It targets the same subset of populace. So your first assumption is completely erroneous.
secondly NOWHERE ON EARTH does ANY coronavirus have the same mortality rate as seasonal flu.
thirdly, most people get symptoms so mild they don't even know they are sick.
quit drinking the grape flavor aid m8.
MOST people who died were elderly with very bad health issues to begin with.
as per many statements.
that is who the regular seasonal flu kills.
It targets the same subset of populace. So your first assumption is completely erroneous.
secondly NOWHERE ON EARTH does ANY coronavirus have the same mortality rate as seasonal flu.
thirdly, most people get symptoms so mild they don't even know they are sick.
quit drinking the grape flavor aid m8.
sbc Italy has high mortality rates due to them having a very aged population who eats a very acidic diet.
I already covered all this almost a week ago. Studies have since confirmed what I have said.
99% of fatalities in Italy are the elderly with other health issues such as heart problems, copd or emphysema, high blood pressure, or fairly uncontrolled diabetes.
I already covered all this almost a week ago. Studies have since confirmed what I have said.
99% of fatalities in Italy are the elderly with other health issues such as heart problems, copd or emphysema, high blood pressure, or fairly uncontrolled diabetes.
The question in my mind is how they're making this coronavirus look like such an extraordinary threat requiring extraordinary measures in terms of access to ICU beds, respirators, etc.? Anybody got an explanation? Is it because the coronavirus is tending to piggyback on the flu, but it is being blamed for every life-threatening illness in which it plays a part? Or maybe every life-threatening illness period? Could some of the labs be faking their results?
lsjarvi We were probably headed to a worse than normal flu season, but now, every death will be called CV, and the idiot proles (in particular, those who've not figured out in the last 19 years how much of a lie 9/11/2001 (et al) was/were) will buy into it as they've been programmed to NOT have reason/logic.
(I won't research it as all the figures have been scammed, and this whole evil charade is an intentional abuse of statistics to get people to goose step along with government.)
(I won't research it as all the figures have been scammed, and this whole evil charade is an intentional abuse of statistics to get people to goose step along with government.)
Rowan Cocoan Agreed. So sick of watching this unfold, knowing the public are actually drinking the coolaid. Just a sidebar, best guesses are this virus has been in USA since September, it accounts for what people describe as "a bad flu," which means most of us have been exposed, are alive to discuss it right now, and that locking down the world is a scheme with ulterior motives - destroying the economy to replace with one-world digital currency anyone? rfid chipped vaccines? that we should be concerned with (not a cold). What we have to prepare for is how we respond to the orweillian measures such a large "live-exercise-pandemic" they reveal in the coming months (assuming people are dumb enough to remain locked down rather than enjoy the summer UV).
lsjarvi Do you know anyone in the hospital? Has anyone driven by a hospital to assess how busy they appear? Or is this just the sick, hospitalized or in nursing homes, who are dying at the normal rate? I don't know anyone who has been hospitalized, do you? We need to rely on on-the-ground observations now instead of bs statistics and fear porn. When people say, oh, a friend of a friend's cousin is sick and went to hospital, it doesn't hold. And if none of us know someone personally who is actually sick, we can call bs on this whole theatre.
I will post this link again so that people can understand just how easy it would be for corrupt governments, ngos & corporations, including media, to stage a pandemic scenario.
In progress is a power and wealth grab and attempts to silence or control those who are resisting the plans of the investor class.
Remember we are in a class war. The pro-lib factions (as an example) and all there perverted stupidity are under intense scrutiny in many major countries.
It would not take much to classify flu/pneumonia deaths, especially with the elderly, into coronavirus deaths, as has been demonstrated in Italy by claims from public health officials.
[Link]
In progress is a power and wealth grab and attempts to silence or control those who are resisting the plans of the investor class.
Remember we are in a class war. The pro-lib factions (as an example) and all there perverted stupidity are under intense scrutiny in many major countries.
It would not take much to classify flu/pneumonia deaths, especially with the elderly, into coronavirus deaths, as has been demonstrated in Italy by claims from public health officials.
[Link]
HVT, one of the very few links that bothered to explain real world conditions regarding this virus (quoting medical professionals), compared to the usual fear mongering from most news sources.
A lot of already wealthy people have made good money during this "pandemic". Most of the hysteria and media BS will be gone in a couple of months, imho.
A lot of already wealthy people have made good money during this "pandemic". Most of the hysteria and media BS will be gone in a couple of months, imho.
That model, per Bezel Bub, has what are called 'Katmandu?/ portmanteau? I forget. eyes...
New Zealand now essentially under Martial Law. Total lockdown. Shops shut. Streets empty. Social isolation enforced.
I have to carry "Essential Worker" authorization papers with me as I'm one of the few still permitted to work (food industry).
I have to carry "Essential Worker" authorization papers with me as I'm one of the few still permitted to work (food industry).
Martin Harris There will be a 'new normal' once this fades away in a few months and most people will be willingly to accept anything at that point for their safety.
Just look at what they achieved with the 'new normal' after the staged event in NY eighteen years ago.
Just look at what they achieved with the 'new normal' after the staged event in NY eighteen years ago.
IMO this is a global psyop, and the virus is being used as cover for the central bankers (owners of the Federal Reserve, the hidden oligarchy that prints money out of thin air) to bring in the NWO, with a new digital financial system and a forced vaccine with a nanochip used to create a "digital identity" (Agenda ID2020)
***If you think this is a "conspiracy theory" well look at this: [Link]
Greg Mannarino warning about central bankers NWO, digital, cashless society [Link]
"Look around you. A world in lock down. Cities, states, nations shutting down. Markets in free-fall. Moreover, NOTHING you are seeing is by accident! Something I have been telling you for YEARS. Understand.. A deliberate global meltdown is occurring by design. A second Great Depression is being THRUST upon us, yes thrust. Many, many people are going do die. For how many years my EXACT words have been "It Will Be Biblical." This is all being done to bring about a NEW financial system.. and methods of control over the remaining population beyond your wildest nightmares are going to occur... what we are seeing now is JUST THE BEGINNING.... GM
- IMO this is a DELIBERATE meltdown of the world economic and financial systems. The New America is now the epicenter of a new order which will sweep the globe, quickly. I also believe it is by design that The Fed. is flooding the world with dollars now in order to usher in a one world ALL digital currency... GM" (please listen to GM on y/t - while everyone has been distracted by this virus psyop, GM has has been warning the people about what the bankers are up to and how we are being LOOTED!! and how the central bankers are buying up the world with dollars and setting us up for hyperinflation)
The virus will be used as a cover story for the central bankers bringing in their new world digital currency (cashless society). The MSM is already floating stories about “dirty money and coins” and that they could have the so-called virus on them.
The Coronavirus COVID-19 Pandemic: The Real Danger is “Agenda ID2020” -Peter Koenig (former World Bank economist) What is the infamous ID2020? It is an alliance of public-private partners, including UN agencies and civil society. It’s an electronic ID program that uses generalized vaccination as a platform for digital identity. [Link] (please read entire article)
People wake up!! We are sheep being led to slaughter!!
***If you think this is a "conspiracy theory" well look at this: [Link]
Greg Mannarino warning about central bankers NWO, digital, cashless society [Link]
"Look around you. A world in lock down. Cities, states, nations shutting down. Markets in free-fall. Moreover, NOTHING you are seeing is by accident! Something I have been telling you for YEARS. Understand.. A deliberate global meltdown is occurring by design. A second Great Depression is being THRUST upon us, yes thrust. Many, many people are going do die. For how many years my EXACT words have been "It Will Be Biblical." This is all being done to bring about a NEW financial system.. and methods of control over the remaining population beyond your wildest nightmares are going to occur... what we are seeing now is JUST THE BEGINNING.... GM
- IMO this is a DELIBERATE meltdown of the world economic and financial systems. The New America is now the epicenter of a new order which will sweep the globe, quickly. I also believe it is by design that The Fed. is flooding the world with dollars now in order to usher in a one world ALL digital currency... GM" (please listen to GM on y/t - while everyone has been distracted by this virus psyop, GM has has been warning the people about what the bankers are up to and how we are being LOOTED!! and how the central bankers are buying up the world with dollars and setting us up for hyperinflation)
The virus will be used as a cover story for the central bankers bringing in their new world digital currency (cashless society). The MSM is already floating stories about “dirty money and coins” and that they could have the so-called virus on them.
The Coronavirus COVID-19 Pandemic: The Real Danger is “Agenda ID2020” -Peter Koenig (former World Bank economist) What is the infamous ID2020? It is an alliance of public-private partners, including UN agencies and civil society. It’s an electronic ID program that uses generalized vaccination as a platform for digital identity. [Link] (please read entire article)
"Another hypothesis, at this point only a hypothesis, but a realistic one, is that along with the vaccination – if not with this one, then possibly with a later one, a nano-chip may be injected, unknown to the person being vaccinated. The chip may be remotely charged with all your personal data, including bank accounts – digital money. Yes, digital money that’s what “they” are aiming at, so you really have no control any more over your health and other intimate data, but also over your earnings and spending. Your money could be blocked, or taken away – as a ‘sanction’ for misbehavior, for swimming against the stream. You may become a mere slave of the masters. Comparatively, feudalism may appear like a walk in the park. "And IMO if you don’t understand central banking, then you really don’t understand how the world works. Central bankers (owners of the Fed and all the other central banks) have the power to create money out of thin air and loan it at interest to governments. This is the ultimate power, the power to create money. The have had this power for hundreds of years and they are the hidden oligarchy that rules nation states from behind the scenes. Please watch James Corbett’s Century of Enslavement: This History of the Federal Reserve, Money as Debt, Bill Still’s The Money Masters, Mike Rivero’s All Wars and Banker’s Wars, and Mike Maloney’s Hidden Secrets of Money, where he warned back in 2013 that in the next ten years there is going to be the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the world (and in part 7 he warns of what’s going to happen because of all of the printing at the Fed).
People wake up!! We are sheep being led to slaughter!!
AmandaMay Are they doing 'incrementally'? Absolutely. Almost every significant change in societies / governments comes about from what's called, in Political Science, 'incrementalism." (But the 'discipline' is not disciplined enough to follow that point through to see the obvious fact that if changes come about incrementally - rather than sua sponte - then Some person is controlling their direction.)
Rowan Cocoan Yes, first the digital dollar to get us used to it, and then it will keep going. I kind of saw all of this as starting with bitcoin--IMO that was all about getting people used to crypto currency. While I do think they will do this incrementally, at the same time, it seems like they are moving very quickly. I'm not sure how we fight back. We have already lost our rights and freedom. I'm in NJ, locked down and I think they are now telling us to stay off the roads. I think we are in a horrible predicament b/c although we the people outnumber them (the psychopathic bankers and their minions), most of "we the people" are brainwashed sheeple. I'm a member of this forum [Link] and all of us are awake and trying to figure out how to fight back. I don't know what to do other than to hop around the internet and try to wake people up to what's happening.
AmandaMay FWIW- Okay someone sent me this link and said “Note the posting date.”
[Link]
But the link did not work for me, so they sent me an image/screen shot from CDC site It shows a job ad for Public Health Advisor Quarantine Program and it was posted 11/2019, which shows pre-planning, right?? It lists tons of locations, CA, NY, NJ, etc, I think this image needs to get out there, but I am totally not technologically savvy—if anyone thinks they can do something with this,I’d be happy to email it to them.
[Link]
But the link did not work for me, so they sent me an image/screen shot from CDC site It shows a job ad for Public Health Advisor Quarantine Program and it was posted 11/2019, which shows pre-planning, right?? It lists tons of locations, CA, NY, NJ, etc, I think this image needs to get out there, but I am totally not technologically savvy—if anyone thinks they can do something with this,I’d be happy to email it to them.
Simple fact is we don't have all the data to talk conclusively about COVID-19.
A country’s case fatality rate will look a lot worse if there are no active steps to test for coronavirus in the community. On the flipside - China, Germany, Taiwan, South Korea, etc stepped up testing much faster than e.g. the UK - which is only testing those people who are in hospital and need treatment. They also imposed draconian lockdowns more quickly. This means that the vast majority of e.g. UK cases are not tracked and, as a result, its fatality rate looks high. Italy and Spain are similar cases - compunded by a society that cohabits with elderly / visits it elderly more often, and has a higher proportion of elderly.
While Germany’s case fatality rate is 0.5 per cent, the UK’s currently stands at 5.2 per cent. Italy some 8%. There is massive variation due to testing policy and social structure. A lot of elderly in Germany are locked in care homes. In Italy they live with their families. What we can say is of just the known hositalisation (more severe) cases - 5% may die. Of those in ICU this becomes more like 20%. If we suppose (and there is good evidence that) the hopspitalisation rate is 20% on average across ALL ages - the true mortality rate is something like 1% for the whole population. Obviously this is massively skewed to the elderly. It is ~ 10x that of flu. But the true numbers will come out in time.
The biggest problem with this virus is the R0 of some 3-4. This means it infects a country exponentially compared to flu:
nCoV transmission: 1 > 4 > 16 > 64 > 256 > 1,024 > 4,096 > 16, 384 > 65,536 > 262,144 > 1,048,576 (10,485)
Flu Transmission: 1 > 2 > 4 > 8 > 16 > 32 > 64 > 128 > 256 > 512 > 1,024 (10)
That's 10 transmissions - with the total deaths as 1%, mostly elderly.
This is why it's overloading hospitals and countries can't cope with the numbers. These numbers are also with lockdowns in place, don't forget.
As to the conspiracy theories - only time will tell. Personally I believe this was engineered to be exactly as bad as it is, and a real virus with crippling effects on health systems. If the "solutions" are not revoked then that would concur with what some are saying. However, the virus would seem to be a real threat to the vulnerable. As there's not much you can do about the conspiracy theories (other than talk about them) the best thing you can do in reality is not catch this or pass it on. It could easily be the new normal - and it doesn't need to be fake stats. Real viruses can be tailor made to do exactly whatever they want.
A country’s case fatality rate will look a lot worse if there are no active steps to test for coronavirus in the community. On the flipside - China, Germany, Taiwan, South Korea, etc stepped up testing much faster than e.g. the UK - which is only testing those people who are in hospital and need treatment. They also imposed draconian lockdowns more quickly. This means that the vast majority of e.g. UK cases are not tracked and, as a result, its fatality rate looks high. Italy and Spain are similar cases - compunded by a society that cohabits with elderly / visits it elderly more often, and has a higher proportion of elderly.
While Germany’s case fatality rate is 0.5 per cent, the UK’s currently stands at 5.2 per cent. Italy some 8%. There is massive variation due to testing policy and social structure. A lot of elderly in Germany are locked in care homes. In Italy they live with their families. What we can say is of just the known hositalisation (more severe) cases - 5% may die. Of those in ICU this becomes more like 20%. If we suppose (and there is good evidence that) the hopspitalisation rate is 20% on average across ALL ages - the true mortality rate is something like 1% for the whole population. Obviously this is massively skewed to the elderly. It is ~ 10x that of flu. But the true numbers will come out in time.
The biggest problem with this virus is the R0 of some 3-4. This means it infects a country exponentially compared to flu:
nCoV transmission: 1 > 4 > 16 > 64 > 256 > 1,024 > 4,096 > 16, 384 > 65,536 > 262,144 > 1,048,576 (10,485)
Flu Transmission: 1 > 2 > 4 > 8 > 16 > 32 > 64 > 128 > 256 > 512 > 1,024 (10)
That's 10 transmissions - with the total deaths as 1%, mostly elderly.
This is why it's overloading hospitals and countries can't cope with the numbers. These numbers are also with lockdowns in place, don't forget.
As to the conspiracy theories - only time will tell. Personally I believe this was engineered to be exactly as bad as it is, and a real virus with crippling effects on health systems. If the "solutions" are not revoked then that would concur with what some are saying. However, the virus would seem to be a real threat to the vulnerable. As there's not much you can do about the conspiracy theories (other than talk about them) the best thing you can do in reality is not catch this or pass it on. It could easily be the new normal - and it doesn't need to be fake stats. Real viruses can be tailor made to do exactly whatever they want.
What this experiment showed is that at this point there's hardly any excuse needed to bring in a worldwide police state. They don't need a legit excuse - they can just make shit up, and most people are such sheep they will buy anything the TV tells them. This fake apocalypse is absurd to the max, but only a few people bother thinking about it. If they haven't learned by now that 99% of what the media tell them is complete bullshit and that 99% of what politicians do has a hidden agenda, they're fucked.
Seeing what's going on right now, I can't help but think people are too stupid to deserve any kind of help. All there is is lessons, and the dumb will just have to learn the hard way. Imagine what's gonna come when the comets bring in the real stuff... they'll turn the whole planet into a real prison.
Seeing what's going on right now, I can't help but think people are too stupid to deserve any kind of help. All there is is lessons, and the dumb will just have to learn the hard way. Imagine what's gonna come when the comets bring in the real stuff... they'll turn the whole planet into a real prison.
Mandatory Intellectomy
This fake apocalypse is absurd to the max, but only a few people bother thinking about it. If they haven't learned by now that 99% of what the media tell them is complete bullshit and that 99% of what politicians do has a hidden agenda, they're fucked.
Mandatory Intellectomy that wasn't meant to be glib, but it would be impossible to get all hopspitals, doctors, nurses, HCA's, media, government departments, companies, ... to buy into a hoax - when you can engineer a virus in a week with bespoke virology and release it wherever you want - practically for free, risk free, and untraceable.
No need to coordinate misinformation like 911. No sophisticated technology required, no risk of being found out. Because it's real. You also get rid of billions in pension liabilities as a bonus.
I never quote Occam's Razor because it's usually said by non-scientists who've watched Jurassic Park. But,...
No need to coordinate misinformation like 911. No sophisticated technology required, no risk of being found out. Because it's real. You also get rid of billions in pension liabilities as a bonus.
I never quote Occam's Razor because it's usually said by non-scientists who've watched Jurassic Park. But,...
hedgewick The virus may be real, but it's not doing what they tell us it's doing. If people understood it's no more dangerous than a flu, this police state shit wouldn't work. So they're feeding people bogus numbers and distort the context, and people can't do the math, so...
Besides, even if things are real, the media and politicians just attach lies out of habit because they don't understand the concept of truth.
Besides, even if things are real, the media and politicians just attach lies out of habit because they don't understand the concept of truth.
Mandatory Intellectomy It will be hard to dig out the real numbers. If people die (for whatever reason) and have nCoV antibodies they will put that in the pot. Not sure how anyone is going to get meaningful stats out of this. I have contacts in hospitals here in the UK and am asking them for updates on respiratory ICU cases vs normal. It's not hit here hard yet, so nothing concrete. I think you need to know people on the ground to be sure of anything.
I found this comment from SolosGirl on this article: [Link]
Thank God. Someone with some sense listening to the reality on the ground. Nobody wants to do that---because it's just not as exciting. People love drama. If they can't have it, they'll make it up.
I WORK in a NY state ER and ICU. There is NOBODY getting sick. Being "infected" with a virus does NOT mean ANYTHING--i.e. "getting intubated".
Anybody that walks upright and is over the age of 20---has had a cold sore--commonly referred to as a "fever blister". That is caused by HSV. HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS. You are INFECTED. Period. For the remainder of your living days. You will have outbreaks every so often---under times of stress or illness--and you may go many many years without an outbreak. BUT YOU ARE INFECTED. FOREVER.
Just because I or anyone else "tests positive" for a virus---does NOT mean they are ill or are becoming ill or will become ill. PERIOD.
I asked some regurgitator staffer yesterday---because he's spewing all the Cuomo bullshite about "30K vents needed"....."So. We have 6 positive C-19 patients here right now. How many are intubated and need a vent?" He said---"I dunno." I said...."ZERO. None. They are not even symptomatic. They are here for other reasons and just happened to test positive. THEY DID NOT COME HERE BECAUSE THEY WERE SICK AND C-19 WAS THE CAUSE. In fact---these patients are going to be DISCHARGED to 'home quarantine' because THEY ARE NOT SICK."
He stared at me. Slack jawed and unbelieving. I said---"So tell me how many of the 'positive' people on THIS PLANET are on vents right now?" He said...."duhhhhhh.. I dunno." I asked..."how many 'infected' have become sick AT ALL?" he responded with the usual..."duerrrfeee.I dunno."
He then followed it up with... .BUT WE NEED 30,000 ventilators!!!! RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!
I predicted that this bullshite would start "fading" in about 2 weeks....right after TARP 2.0 on steroids and nitro got passed. Right after creative destruction could occur---the CEOs cashed out, people get laid off only to be brought back with far less wage capacity/negotiating power (because being employed at half your previous wage is better than trying to get unemployment in NY), and people are now afraid OF EACH OTHER because the old tried and true "being afraid of those little brown people who are terrorists living in mud huts in the desert" isn't working so well this time around.
Cuomo is positioning himself as the "Rudy" of the 20's. Don't see the comparison? Nobody remembers that trusted General holding the tiny vial of white powder and convincing the world that the US had to invade Iraq or there would be mushroom clouds all over the globe? How about Bushie passing the PATRIOT ACT in record time after the bullshite that WAS 9/11?
Cuomo needs to shut his pie hole---because people ON THE GROUND are getting really fucking tired of his spewing garbage about things that ARE NOT HAPPENING.
Morgues are NOT "overflowing". Period . I laughed my ass off at that dipshit Snyder's recent "article" about "recovery from this virus" is some stupidly low number. The number of infections is 250K---the number of DEAD is 200 (and I still have not seen any type of autopsy reports that PROVE to me that it was this virus that killed ANYBODY. AT ALL.)---but he touted some stupid number of "recovered" as something like 500.
Um.....so......what about those other 249,500 people who tested positive. They aren't sick--yet they aren't "recovered"?
What a bunch of bullshit for fucking retards. Get out of the house, morons---and go look for yourselves......oh yeah. Cheetoh has the hospitals locked from ANY visitors so nobody can actually SEE what's going on.
Yet----me and my coworkers are NOT GETTING TESTED. In fact---we ran out of N95s a few days ago, along with iso gowns. Anybody give a shit?
No. Because they know. There IS NO DANGER. I don't wear a mask at work. I don't wear iso gear. Neither do any of my ER colleagues. All of the pics you see---are for publicity only. Nobody is wearing this shit---because nobody is in any danger---and the hospitals aren't providing anything extra anyway.
The money in TARP 2.0 on steroids and nitro is for paying the stockholders for their losses. That is what this whole bogus "virus" thing was about.
Cheetoh says---economy is to be reopened by Easter. He should know. He and his buddies manufactured this whole thing.
Thank God. Someone with some sense listening to the reality on the ground. Nobody wants to do that---because it's just not as exciting. People love drama. If they can't have it, they'll make it up.
I WORK in a NY state ER and ICU. There is NOBODY getting sick. Being "infected" with a virus does NOT mean ANYTHING--i.e. "getting intubated".
Anybody that walks upright and is over the age of 20---has had a cold sore--commonly referred to as a "fever blister". That is caused by HSV. HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS. You are INFECTED. Period. For the remainder of your living days. You will have outbreaks every so often---under times of stress or illness--and you may go many many years without an outbreak. BUT YOU ARE INFECTED. FOREVER.
Just because I or anyone else "tests positive" for a virus---does NOT mean they are ill or are becoming ill or will become ill. PERIOD.
I asked some regurgitator staffer yesterday---because he's spewing all the Cuomo bullshite about "30K vents needed"....."So. We have 6 positive C-19 patients here right now. How many are intubated and need a vent?" He said---"I dunno." I said...."ZERO. None. They are not even symptomatic. They are here for other reasons and just happened to test positive. THEY DID NOT COME HERE BECAUSE THEY WERE SICK AND C-19 WAS THE CAUSE. In fact---these patients are going to be DISCHARGED to 'home quarantine' because THEY ARE NOT SICK."
He stared at me. Slack jawed and unbelieving. I said---"So tell me how many of the 'positive' people on THIS PLANET are on vents right now?" He said...."duhhhhhh.. I dunno." I asked..."how many 'infected' have become sick AT ALL?" he responded with the usual..."duerrrfeee.I dunno."
He then followed it up with... .BUT WE NEED 30,000 ventilators!!!! RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!
I predicted that this bullshite would start "fading" in about 2 weeks....right after TARP 2.0 on steroids and nitro got passed. Right after creative destruction could occur---the CEOs cashed out, people get laid off only to be brought back with far less wage capacity/negotiating power (because being employed at half your previous wage is better than trying to get unemployment in NY), and people are now afraid OF EACH OTHER because the old tried and true "being afraid of those little brown people who are terrorists living in mud huts in the desert" isn't working so well this time around.
Cuomo is positioning himself as the "Rudy" of the 20's. Don't see the comparison? Nobody remembers that trusted General holding the tiny vial of white powder and convincing the world that the US had to invade Iraq or there would be mushroom clouds all over the globe? How about Bushie passing the PATRIOT ACT in record time after the bullshite that WAS 9/11?
Cuomo needs to shut his pie hole---because people ON THE GROUND are getting really fucking tired of his spewing garbage about things that ARE NOT HAPPENING.
Morgues are NOT "overflowing". Period . I laughed my ass off at that dipshit Snyder's recent "article" about "recovery from this virus" is some stupidly low number. The number of infections is 250K---the number of DEAD is 200 (and I still have not seen any type of autopsy reports that PROVE to me that it was this virus that killed ANYBODY. AT ALL.)---but he touted some stupid number of "recovered" as something like 500.
Um.....so......what about those other 249,500 people who tested positive. They aren't sick--yet they aren't "recovered"?
What a bunch of bullshit for fucking retards. Get out of the house, morons---and go look for yourselves......oh yeah. Cheetoh has the hospitals locked from ANY visitors so nobody can actually SEE what's going on.
Yet----me and my coworkers are NOT GETTING TESTED. In fact---we ran out of N95s a few days ago, along with iso gowns. Anybody give a shit?
No. Because they know. There IS NO DANGER. I don't wear a mask at work. I don't wear iso gear. Neither do any of my ER colleagues. All of the pics you see---are for publicity only. Nobody is wearing this shit---because nobody is in any danger---and the hospitals aren't providing anything extra anyway.
The money in TARP 2.0 on steroids and nitro is for paying the stockholders for their losses. That is what this whole bogus "virus" thing was about.
Cheetoh says---economy is to be reopened by Easter. He should know. He and his buddies manufactured this whole thing.
Excellent comments in this thread. Enjoyed them all. I guess that's why I keep hanging around
It's Wednesday here in the center of the universe (just outside Toronto), the sun is shining and people are out walking their dog, cycling, going to drive-throughs. Non-essential shops are closed but fuel, grocery, pharmacy, liquor and pot shops remain open. 6Ft. rule enforced by store clerks. No cash transactions. People mostly staying away from each other, but that's normal here LOL!
Stay safe Everyone!
It's Wednesday here in the center of the universe (just outside Toronto), the sun is shining and people are out walking their dog, cycling, going to drive-throughs. Non-essential shops are closed but fuel, grocery, pharmacy, liquor and pot shops remain open. 6Ft. rule enforced by store clerks. No cash transactions. People mostly staying away from each other, but that's normal here LOL!
Stay safe Everyone!
Baybars What? Only one dog per multiple owners?
"people are out walking their dog."Has Canada given up the charade and pronounced itself Socialist/Communist?
HVACTech - The underlying malice seems unnecessary mate. We are all here in the same boat, his comments may not agree with you (a weird link definitely made me feel sick, jew flu v flu or something!) but I fail to see the benefits of your comment. Maybe I’m not seeing your point, I dunno.
I usually find your comments incredibly erudite, so was suprised to see this one.
I usually find your comments incredibly erudite, so was suprised to see this one.
Baybars
Always!
The only number we should trust is the final death numbers after this spectacle is over.
X number of deaths on an average every year. Y number this year. Is Y>X?
If not, what is happening is re-labelling of deaths.
X number of deaths on an average every year. Y number this year. Is Y>X?
If not, what is happening is re-labelling of deaths.
stringless Yes. And with the knowledge that was with intervention like nothing before. And that the deaths were due to nCoV and not "died and had nCoV antibodies".
This relatively new media outlet (Daily Voice; headquartered in CT but with franchises all over) publishes only bad news and fearmongering (thefts, deaths, shortages, closures) about the Coronavirus. The latest article is straight out of 1984: No sex, no kissing -- all to stop the spread of the virus.
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History has shown that social communion and contact is vital to people. I believe it is also important spiritually and so even where some have tried to repress this basic need, the necessity to interact is too strong.
The thing is hardly anyone is tested for flu. Only those who are close to death or dead. This is a bad example of cherry-picking data. There are more tests going on for nCoV - to reduce the R0 - not just those who are critical. It's pretty well known the real mortality rate across the population for flu is 0.1%. Hospitals are built to cope for the rates of this. nCoV is LOOKING like 1% - so that's 10x as bad. But we don't know yet, however it looks about right compared to what's going on, on the ground. If it were less then hospitals would not be overloaded as they (obviously) are and the UK would not be repurposing a conference centre in London to house 4,000 ICU beds. We need to get balance right between doubt and social responsibility, without of course frog marching into totalitarianism.
parzival As I read somewhere, the test they are calling for C19 only tests whether you have CV antibodies. It is the SAME TEST that was used in or before 2014; yet Team FUKUSraHell if you've got miniscule exposure (low viral load); were exposed to ANY leftover / lying around CV from 2013? and die from preexisting COPD, they rank your death as CAUSED BY C19 Plannedemic 2020!
A Czech doctor, Sona Pekova, devised a better and cheaper test that can tell apart covid-19 from the other coronaviruses, but the government refused to use it. I'm guessing the test would start painting a slightly different picture of what's going on.
Mandatory Intellectomy It was a good article to read. Around here, now somewhere in QC, the official story was bought lock, stock and barrel and the safe distancing thing is done as if it were a game. Unreal. Learned quick to keep my divergent opinions to myself.
As I read somewhere, the test they are calling for C19 only tests whether you have CV antibodies. It is the SAME TEST that was used in or before 2014; yet Team FUKUSraHell if you've got miniscule exposure (low viral load); were exposed to ANY leftover / lying around CV from 2013? and die from preexisting COPD, they rank your death as CAUSED BY C19 Plannedemic 2020!
Here's the article about what the tests can and cannot do. [Link]
Here's the article about what the tests can and cannot do. [Link]
Comment: We also came across this like-for-like comparison of 'confirmed' vs 'estimated' flu stats, as per US CDC figures.
But it's actually more complex than this. Article on it coming soon!
But the basic point is correct; it's clear by now that this virus is nowhere near as 'deadly' as the media - and govts - are making it out to be.