Millennials: born between 1980 and 1994.
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And stay tuned, as always, for Zoya's Pet Health segment where the topic will be suicide among veterinarians.
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Millennials: born between 1980 and 1994.
Join us as we explore these questions and more.
And stay tuned, as always, for Zoya's Pet Health segment where the topic will be suicide among veterinarians.
Running Time: 01:29:45
Download: MP3
Reader Comments
agni I agree that the millennials are a byproduct of the adults who raised them. The baby boomers had it easy to find work, job stability, decent wages (and minimum wage was higher relative to costs), and freedom to roam.
The millenials were expected to follow the history of the baby boomers... As if those same conditions exist. No, sorry, no matter how hard you work , the pay is worse today and stability is bad.
So maybe that generation just gave up on the goals that the bb's preached because well, they are not obtainable in general anymore.
Look at Japan too, where the current generation didn't want to have kids.
"It's the economy stupid!"
The millenials were expected to follow the history of the baby boomers... As if those same conditions exist. No, sorry, no matter how hard you work , the pay is worse today and stability is bad.
So maybe that generation just gave up on the goals that the bb's preached because well, they are not obtainable in general anymore.
Look at Japan too, where the current generation didn't want to have kids.
"It's the economy stupid!"
Divide By Zero More likely to live with parents - didn't sott show that the cost of housing sky rocket compared to wages? The bb generation was able to afford the house on single incomes, not now!
By the way, when i worked in a big company, our shop had a lot of older workers who like the baby boomers were complete hipocrites. They expected the younger workers to do the majority of the work while reminiscing how much fun and relaxed it was years ago. Yeah, good for you jerks who don't care for others, you basically created loss of empathy by not paying it forward and treating the current younger generations fairly. Their line "I got mine, f you"
By the way I'm a few years before millennials, but I see the crap now as a great way to divide people instead of unite us and I'm upset that there is so much focus on this, rather than the issues that hurt all of us.
By the way, when i worked in a big company, our shop had a lot of older workers who like the baby boomers were complete hipocrites. They expected the younger workers to do the majority of the work while reminiscing how much fun and relaxed it was years ago. Yeah, good for you jerks who don't care for others, you basically created loss of empathy by not paying it forward and treating the current younger generations fairly. Their line "I got mine, f you"
By the way I'm a few years before millennials, but I see the crap now as a great way to divide people instead of unite us and I'm upset that there is so much focus on this, rather than the issues that hurt all of us.
I agree with all of that, although I may be biased. It isn't that criticisms are wrong, it's that they are one-sided and take exceptions for the rule, a fault of all collectivist thinking (although that thinking is necessary to identify a problem and determine a solution).
Kids'll be kids. They will, for the large part, shirk responsibility, they'll be obsessed with technology, but most of them don't go out and have tantrums and tell people to call them zer and cry in "safe spaces." Most people are sophisticated enough to handle mild insults, as much as anyone else anyway. Most friendships are superficial regardless of age. And younger people might have the same sorts of jobs that would have paid more decades ago, but conservatives would rather not research it. In general, it is the economy.
I wonder how lazy they really are compared to previous generations. Not to suggest it's a good (or bad) thing, but isn't that human nature? It is just worse in adolescence, and now, fortunately and unfortunately, it is easier to be lazy.
The widespread obsession with videogames up to their late twenties and thirties is weird, though. Just throwing that out there because that is strangest experience I have with others my age.
Kids'll be kids. They will, for the large part, shirk responsibility, they'll be obsessed with technology, but most of them don't go out and have tantrums and tell people to call them zer and cry in "safe spaces." Most people are sophisticated enough to handle mild insults, as much as anyone else anyway. Most friendships are superficial regardless of age. And younger people might have the same sorts of jobs that would have paid more decades ago, but conservatives would rather not research it. In general, it is the economy.
I wonder how lazy they really are compared to previous generations. Not to suggest it's a good (or bad) thing, but isn't that human nature? It is just worse in adolescence, and now, fortunately and unfortunately, it is easier to be lazy.
The widespread obsession with videogames up to their late twenties and thirties is weird, though. Just throwing that out there because that is strangest experience I have with others my age.
hobnyeba the video games thing is just another version of the bb's or other generations obsessions. For example, a few of my older coworkers are obsessed with muscle cars. There's quite a few shows on that, showing how big that market is.
Ha! Cattle for the slaughter. Not everyone born in that period lack the skills to survive and thrive and those young people who have been raised in less 'elite' environments will eat these idiot hipsters, whiners and liberals for lunch.
Those countries who are not aligned with the 'west' can see how the 'millennial' generation will make the west an easy target in the very near future.
All you out there protesting that your feelings have been hurt by some political/religious/personal statements or actions have no idea how cruel the world is outside your cocoon, but I fear you won't have to wait long to find out.
Those countries who are not aligned with the 'west' can see how the 'millennial' generation will make the west an easy target in the very near future.
All you out there protesting that your feelings have been hurt by some political/religious/personal statements or actions have no idea how cruel the world is outside your cocoon, but I fear you won't have to wait long to find out.
"Millennials are people born between the years 1980 and 1994"
"have an incapacity for meaningful relationships and suffer from a high rate of mood and personality disorders"|
This is the time period when the vaccination program ramped way up. Just because a vaccinated person did not get overt autism, does not mean that they were not still (brain) damaged by vaccines.
All vaccines cause harm, they are literally designed to do so.
"have an incapacity for meaningful relationships and suffer from a high rate of mood and personality disorders"|
This is the time period when the vaccination program ramped way up. Just because a vaccinated person did not get overt autism, does not mean that they were not still (brain) damaged by vaccines.
All vaccines cause harm, they are literally designed to do so.
I have thought about generations that come after me. I mean I was lucky, my storyline so far was overall a good one but I don't think that there were many people out there that helped me, I had to do most of the work myself.
So, I've thought what can I do for younger generations ? Well, give them my advice, ONLY if they asked for it.
So, I've thought what can I do for younger generations ? Well, give them my advice, ONLY if they asked for it.
In the US, there was a distinct shift but it began with the younger X'ers. My Silent Generation mother saw this at the workplace beginning in the mid 90s with the younger X'ers coming out of uni (I am an older X'er or even actually a youngest Boomer depending on the generational analyst but don't feel like it and ID more with Gen X).
And I see it in both extended families here in Chile and the US with the recently graduated (US-side) who immediately think it is their right to start at the top and who refuse to start at entry level positions living it up at mom and pops house till their dream position is offered to them to the laziness my wife has to deal with from young Chileans in their 20s to 30s forcing many businesses to hire immigrants from Peru, Colombia, Haiti or actually look for older workers (in ageist Chile!!!) to get the job done.
Just anecdotes with generalizations, so don't get bent outta shape.
And I see it in both extended families here in Chile and the US with the recently graduated (US-side) who immediately think it is their right to start at the top and who refuse to start at entry level positions living it up at mom and pops house till their dream position is offered to them to the laziness my wife has to deal with from young Chileans in their 20s to 30s forcing many businesses to hire immigrants from Peru, Colombia, Haiti or actually look for older workers (in ageist Chile!!!) to get the job done.
Just anecdotes with generalizations, so don't get bent outta shape.
Another metric is to look at the ages of the alternative media icons making the most waves. Seems to be mainly boomers and X'ers.
I've millennial children. They've all worked hard and done well. Though, IMHO, they're more 'me-orientated' than is healthy for them and our society.
But, look at 80s and 90s culture - these are my stand out memories...
There was a frenetic craziness to that period - now we know much of it was fuelled by the mountains of white substance that was in daily use in the stock markets, amongst banksters, and in the corridors of power. Most of us knew someone with an important job title who was snorting.
There was an explosion of consumerism and designer labels. People were encouraged to tie their identity to how many costly labelled clothes and accessories they could acquire and wear.
Suddenly everyone was encouraged to get credit cards so they could have-it-all-now, instead of working and saving and achieving by their own self-improvement and merit.
People were told 'you're worth it', 'you deserve it', from all sides.
From nowhere, an army of psychobabblers (aka counsellors and psychotherapists) appeared. Whilst traditional buttresses against emotional upset (the church, family, communities, women's vital roles as homemakers and mothers etc) were being ripped apart and denigrated, debased....
This all came along on the wave of the first major epidemic of political correctness, which was an avalanche of psycho-control against the individual, everyone was forced into lockstep with an ideology we are still paying very dearly for today in so many ways :
- the nanny state arose and told us that we parents were not able to discipline our children, mustn't chastise them, etc etc on pain of CPS and removal.
- o ut there in the world, children literally got prizes for simply turning up. All children were amazing, brilliant, top of the tree, all winners....children's feelings were paramount, mustn't upset them. Everyone was equal.
- schools somehow decided that parents were not partners in education, but a foe in the battle for children's minds and mental and physical health. (I speak as an educator - I saw both sides. The powerful school authorities won out.)
- moral relativism ruled all - everyone had a 'valid' excuse for their irresponsible, poor behavior.
And, throughout it all, most regular people knew that it was all covering up a huge slimy pit of hypocrisy, control-freakery and corruption.
(And that's all just off the top of my head. I'm sure future historians and sociologists will do a far better job of ripping that era apart for its profound dysfunctionalism and the damage it did.)
But, look at 80s and 90s culture - these are my stand out memories...
There was a frenetic craziness to that period - now we know much of it was fuelled by the mountains of white substance that was in daily use in the stock markets, amongst banksters, and in the corridors of power. Most of us knew someone with an important job title who was snorting.
There was an explosion of consumerism and designer labels. People were encouraged to tie their identity to how many costly labelled clothes and accessories they could acquire and wear.
Suddenly everyone was encouraged to get credit cards so they could have-it-all-now, instead of working and saving and achieving by their own self-improvement and merit.
People were told 'you're worth it', 'you deserve it', from all sides.
From nowhere, an army of psychobabblers (aka counsellors and psychotherapists) appeared. Whilst traditional buttresses against emotional upset (the church, family, communities, women's vital roles as homemakers and mothers etc) were being ripped apart and denigrated, debased....
This all came along on the wave of the first major epidemic of political correctness, which was an avalanche of psycho-control against the individual, everyone was forced into lockstep with an ideology we are still paying very dearly for today in so many ways :
- the nanny state arose and told us that we parents were not able to discipline our children, mustn't chastise them, etc etc on pain of CPS and removal.
- o ut there in the world, children literally got prizes for simply turning up. All children were amazing, brilliant, top of the tree, all winners....children's feelings were paramount, mustn't upset them. Everyone was equal.
- schools somehow decided that parents were not partners in education, but a foe in the battle for children's minds and mental and physical health. (I speak as an educator - I saw both sides. The powerful school authorities won out.)
- moral relativism ruled all - everyone had a 'valid' excuse for their irresponsible, poor behavior.
And, throughout it all, most regular people knew that it was all covering up a huge slimy pit of hypocrisy, control-freakery and corruption.
(And that's all just off the top of my head. I'm sure future historians and sociologists will do a far better job of ripping that era apart for its profound dysfunctionalism and the damage it did.)
I am a millennial, I guess ?! My thinking is, nothing has ever changed, we still live pretty much in re-invented feudalism or slavery, where land, resources and everything belongs to so called "elites". Only difference things are called different now. Sh1t, before you work for feudal 5 days a week, then 2 days on your own field. Or you are a slave who lives in barracks. Now you still work 5 days pretty much to make someone rich, and you supposed to be grateful you have a job. Only difference now you can rent or own you own barrack. Awesome, I go to work, so I can earn enough to feed myself, rent a carton box, feed myself with crap, pay for transportation, so pretty much I work so I can afford to go to work ! Awesome life ! Whoo whoo freedom they call it, right ? Land of a free, where you need permits to fish, hunt and build houses, where one can not just go live in the forest or grow your own food, or something like this, because it already belongs to someone. If you are not part of the system, well... gtfo ! Pretty much you are screwed and if you want to be really free, well do something else the say, that's much go die ! You can't do that, can't do this... You have a choice though what to do with your life, right ?
So tell me, why should I even care to participate in such system ? Why would I want to be a part of this nonsense ? What's the motivation ? I guess, I am just entitled b!tch, ain't I ? Better stfu and be a "productive" member of society, right ?
So tell me, why should I even care to participate in such system ? Why would I want to be a part of this nonsense ? What's the motivation ? I guess, I am just entitled b!tch, ain't I ? Better stfu and be a "productive" member of society, right ?
agni Complaining about being unable to live the lifestyle you would like because you don't earn enough won't change your situation. If you really want change, then start by ridding yourself of the belief that you are a helpless victim and earn some self respect by taking charge of your life.
You might start by contemplating what you enjoy and do well, and then train yourself to earn more while doing it. If possible, cut back on your spending habits too. Committing to this hard work is a sacrifice which won't be easy and it might take a few years to accomplish your goal. But hang in there one day at a time and eventually say goodbye to living on that dead end street named Helplessness.
You might start by contemplating what you enjoy and do well, and then train yourself to earn more while doing it. If possible, cut back on your spending habits too. Committing to this hard work is a sacrifice which won't be easy and it might take a few years to accomplish your goal. But hang in there one day at a time and eventually say goodbye to living on that dead end street named Helplessness.
A mate of mine loves the 'millennials era'. He says that: unlike days of yore, he can wander around London at any hour in the night, and if he hears footsteps coming up behind him, he knows it's not going to be some violent drunken thug demanding money with menaces or whatever, it's just going to be some vacuous pea-brained snowflake bumping into lamp-posts whilst twatting around with their iPhone.
LindaMay No not really. I'm listening to some old Goldfrapp records...[Link]
I don't get as much from books or films as I do chord structures, harmony, counterpoint, rhythm, that kind of stuff.
Their new one is OK-ish...[Link]
I have no idea what the ghastly looking video is supposed to mean: Nordic alien chicks in the desert with a load of Auschwitz looking lesbians or sa'nk. ???? LOL.
I don't get as much from books or films as I do chord structures, harmony, counterpoint, rhythm, that kind of stuff.
Their new one is OK-ish...[Link]
I have no idea what the ghastly looking video is supposed to mean: Nordic alien chicks in the desert with a load of Auschwitz looking lesbians or sa'nk. ???? LOL.
Highland Fleet Lute for whatever it s worth HFL... i honestly think ... you.. dont need the BG.
I bought the audio teachings by Stephen Hartman 3 decades ago and although his voice is a tad too nervous for me sometimes, i, still today, find it a place of so much needed solace. I ve listened to it ALOT.
I bought the audio teachings by Stephen Hartman 3 decades ago and although his voice is a tad too nervous for me sometimes, i, still today, find it a place of so much needed solace. I ve listened to it ALOT.
THE KEYS TO THE KINGDOM
@HFL and agni:
We live in a rural area. However, not far away is the I-94 freeway, with heavy constant traffic.
Some years ago, on the freeway, past midnight, a state patrol unit stopped a car about a mile from our house. The occupant (not the driver) jumped out and fled on foot. He ended up in our yard. I guess we didn't have a large dog, at that time. He checked (looked) into our family van, saw the keys in it, started it, and drove it away.
We always leave the keys in our vehicles. That way, we don't lose them. Well, we did this once. But we got the van back a few days later, when it showed up in Fargo, North Dakota and was towed to an impound lot.
There is still very little individual crime out here, where we reside. But there is massive corporate crime. Every second, every minute, every hour and every day.
ned
out
@HFL and agni:
We live in a rural area. However, not far away is the I-94 freeway, with heavy constant traffic.
Some years ago, on the freeway, past midnight, a state patrol unit stopped a car about a mile from our house. The occupant (not the driver) jumped out and fled on foot. He ended up in our yard. I guess we didn't have a large dog, at that time. He checked (looked) into our family van, saw the keys in it, started it, and drove it away.
We always leave the keys in our vehicles. That way, we don't lose them. Well, we did this once. But we got the van back a few days later, when it showed up in Fargo, North Dakota and was towed to an impound lot.
There is still very little individual crime out here, where we reside. But there is massive corporate crime. Every second, every minute, every hour and every day.
ned
out
Good show! Thank-you.
-I remember reading a story about the generation coming up on the heels of the Hitler Youth.
They were rebels, showing their dissent against the crazy system built by their elders through folk music around camp fires. And graffiti.
There are pictures of the leaders of this youth rebel movement being hanged. Apparently their message posed a real threat to the Nazi leadership and their vision of Utopia. Young people looking sidelong at the popular crap their parents were part of and thinking, "No way, no how."
I always wondered how Fascism two point oh was going to address this built-in human fail safe.
We can thank Steve Jobs for his stellar work in turning the rebel yell of our population into a bunch of docile cow mewling.
-I remember reading a story about the generation coming up on the heels of the Hitler Youth.
They were rebels, showing their dissent against the crazy system built by their elders through folk music around camp fires. And graffiti.
There are pictures of the leaders of this youth rebel movement being hanged. Apparently their message posed a real threat to the Nazi leadership and their vision of Utopia. Young people looking sidelong at the popular crap their parents were part of and thinking, "No way, no how."
I always wondered how Fascism two point oh was going to address this built-in human fail safe.
We can thank Steve Jobs for his stellar work in turning the rebel yell of our population into a bunch of docile cow mewling.
"I remember reading a story about the generation coming up on the heels of the Hitler Youth."
Die Edelweißpiraten.
Die Edelweißpiraten.
Oh HFL ... i apologize ... that Bhagavad Gita suggestion was meant for Agni and not you ... lol .... truly meant you no harm.
I did however offer you to pay for brit pints lol
I did however offer you to pay for brit pints lol
LindaMay
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LindaMay Linda, it's just another racket. To my dis-may Linda May and after having talked to a lot of people throughout the years I understood that EVERYTHING is a racket. In the beginning I didn't want to believe it myself but such is the case. The world we live in IS A STAGE SHOW. If something
seems to be an "accident" it is because it was planed to look that way and according to Sir Laurence
Olivier "there's no such thing as luck". So , yes we are all in the matrix and few people can see the woods exactly because there are so many trees.
seems to be an "accident" it is because it was planed to look that way and according to Sir Laurence
Olivier "there's no such thing as luck". So , yes we are all in the matrix and few people can see the woods exactly because there are so many trees.
I like the qoute: Since birth we are tought how to be humane and decent in this world. However, society forgot to build this kind of world first.