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MindMatters: Artificial Stone: Has Marcell Foti Cracked the Megalithic Code?

Harrison Koehli
Sott.net
Wed, 04 Jun 2025 00:00 UTC

In this episode of Mind Matters, Marcell Foti shares his groundbreaking Natron Theory, challenging conventional explanations for the construction of ancient megalithic structures. Foti, an IT professional turned independent researcher, proposes that ancient civilizations used a chemical process involving natron — a carbonate mineral used in ancient Egypt for mummification and as a detergent — to etch and dissolve granite into a moldable "waterglass" slurry, which could then be cast into precise stone shapes. Demonstrating with small-scale experiments, he explains how this method accounts for the seamless, complex features of structures like those in Peru and Egypt, offering a compelling alternative to traditional theories of chiseling. Follow Marcel's ongoing experiments and insights on Twitter and check out his book, The Natron Theory, for a deeper dive into this revolutionary idea.

Running Time: 01:11:29

Download: MP3 — 98.2 MB

Harrison Koehli

Harrison Koehli co-hosts SOTT Radio Network's MindMatters, and is an editor for Red Pill Press. He has been interviewed on several North American radio shows about his writings on the study of ponerology, which are available on his Ponerology Substack.

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Gnostic ·

Plausible

· 2025-06-05T02:14:35Z

codis · 2025-06-05T09:21:08Z

I came across the theory that many of the huge stones in ancient buildings and monuments were actually cast instead of chiseled about a decade ago.

This "Naton theory" might be plausible, but the link reveal nothing - except for a sales push. But having a basic understanding what constitutes concrete, this makes sense. And it would prove it were not the Romans that came up with that idea.

Gnostic · 2025-06-05T11:12:30Z

codis That theory you came across I too. Molten for all we know.

One thing for sure not copper chisels lol.

codis · 2025-06-05T12:32:48Z

Gnostic I took the time to actually go through the whole podcast. And as I understood it, the heating & melting is just necessary to create the powdery base material. Mixing it with water creates a slurry like with concrete, which will harden in hours or days, and cure in days or weeks, depending on the mixture.

Anyway, sounds very plausible to me. Our ancestors were everything but stupid. At least much less then our current civilisation.

So, unfortunately no "magic frequencies" that made the giant bolders levitate, nor alien spacecraft required to lift them ...

No wonder many "professionals" hate this theory - when all their income depends this ideas staying hidden. And this very much includes tenured mainstream archeolgists and historians.

Gnostic · 2025-06-06T13:15:09Z

codis From what I see we had civilizations that exceeded ours in ability. Look at our current architecture. Garbage.

However they did what they did it far exceeds our ability that much us a fact.

I question who they is as well as the age designated to certain structures. The Sphinx the Great Pyramid were there before they called it Egypt. The Sphinx shows flood damage in the desert. Yep

Then there are the gargantuan stone blocks still in quarry.

We see feeble new construction on top of old construction and attributed to the same tim by some illiterate scientismists. lol

“ Don’t believe your lying eyes” gubmint standard

JTF Truth · 2025-06-06T14:11:20Z

codis Read a book by a US chemist, back in early 90s who proposed cement rock. Apparently he has patents. Make any kind of rock you want.

codis · 2025-06-06T14:27:46Z

JTF Truth Although this is not any kind of cement.

The difference is significant. In cements, the water plays a crucial role in the chemical process, and most of it is bound, forming a hydride.

In thetechnique described here, water is used solely to achieve a pourable and flowing mixture. Nothing remains in created structure.

Buffalo_Ken · 2025-06-07T20:17:55Z

codis - in some ways liquids are easier to shape than solids no doubt - but top notch reliable seals are needed or super flat places down to a high degree of precision - when it comes to preventing liquid leakage - consider "epoxy" in that regard.

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Now of course another possibility is to put the shape desired into a "mold" - but how was the mold formed - and how you get the concrete out of it?

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I think there is more to this than any simple explanation.....but maybe I ought listen to it?

What you think darling

[Link] - should I hate em?

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As for the seals used to keep the liquid formation in place - I got no doubt - with practice they become 2nd nature - so without even watching this - I think the idea is intriguing - and that is based on my recent experience with epoxy and liquid in general - cause all chemical engineers love the elements in all forms - solid, liquid, and air - then you got gels - and all sorts of properties under duress - and well really - why not use all the forms matter can be in for best application? That is what us chemical engineers think....

codis · 2025-06-08T12:27:26Z

Buffalo_Ken A slurry is not really a liquid. Something in between ...

And, as I understood it, there are no crucial components of this mixture dissolved in water. The water is just added to make slurry from a powder. Thus water seeping out is not a big problem.

Buffalo_Ken · 2025-06-09T12:54:47Z

codis - for sure - and even "water" has so many forms and properties - presumably affected by its "polar" nature molecularly!

Regards,

BK

Fewtile · 2025-06-05T13:34:40Z

That theory is not gonna work for much of the stone work in Egypt and else where. For instance any and all granites are a natural stone harder than concrete, and then the question arises how did they polish all that stone.

guard4her · 2025-06-05T16:36:21Z

Works in some instances. Human hair has been observed in some of the rock in Egypt. Other places, the rock in structures matches the bedrock quarries from which it was cut.

gdpetti · 2025-06-05T20:45:23Z

Haven't listened yet, but if anything like concrete, it would be very easy to tell that it isn't normal rock, but some mixture. The properties are different.

Dwoods44 · 2025-06-06T06:52:24Z

I agree that this theory is plausible. However, you have to include in the theory the use of these structures. For a wall, it makes sense that the odd shapes and thin interfaces add to stability over time.

The pyramids have many electrical theories connected to them that would depend on materials. Will this material work?

Spur · 2025-06-07T08:59:55Z

Good theory, now prove it. Go ahead and duplicate one of those complex walls behind you. Say with just 5-6 stones, smaller if need be - just do it and you have your proof.

MacGregor · 2025-06-07T18:28:21Z

I'm for the everything theory. All methods of construction of megalithic structures. Cast, cultured stone, magnetic, sonic, photonic levitation. Any and all kinds of mechanical, chemical, physical method to get the job done. The problem with current mainstream academia when studying ancient megalithic structures is one of abiding by rules and laws enforced to by the status whoa.

Buffalo_Ken · 2025-06-07T20:00:27Z

MacGregor - it only makes sense that all tools in the "toolbox" be used - and then imagine if so - after mistakes made opportunities for synergy emerge more readily versus limiting possible tools out of bias and such - so - use the tools at your disposal - and don't abide those who argue limits upon tools.....that ain't smart.

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So just like - "let the best ideas prevail" - I think "let the best tools do the job - based on experience of course - cause tools take practice".

~

Consider the cranes they used when building the Russian Cathedral of Armed Forces there - as a sacred place in memory of the Great Patriotic War - otherwise referred to as WWII

BK

Buffalo_Ken · 2025-06-07T20:48:17Z

8:53 in and why is the terminology "artificial stone" used I query - cause it may be somewhat liquid at one moment but after it cures it is stone - is it not. Nothing artificial about that - and just like magma in volcanoes leads to so many sorts of stones and rock formations, minerals and what-not - at one time they might of been in the magma - and basically in liquid form - and this goes even for diamonds one might ponder - but "green garnet" is the gem I desire - do you know how to make it?

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Cutting to the chase - why would anybody have difficulty in considering the possibility of using molds, liquids, chemical reactions - whatever - to form stones in place precisely? Why does it have to all be "chiseling" chemical engineers wonder and ponder - I mean hydrochloric acid can dissolve concrete as well - and hf if you got some and know how to handle it - really could dissolve precisely - but be advised - hf is not to be handled by those naive in the ways of chemical engineering.

~

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Buffalo_Ken · 2025-06-07T21:30:51Z

Buffalo_Ken - oh boy - what does this mean in regards to the theory presented above...

Tsavorite formed in a Neoproterozoic metamorphic event which involved extensive folding and refolding of rock.

Green Garnet has a potion shop and liquids are most useful for many purposes - be they acids, or other chemicals that eat rock for the sake of patterns - but metals can be chiseled with precision electronically - and has that aspect of this been considered - I guess I ought listen to the rest......

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when I type "chiseled" - well I seen direct chemicals eating metal and I've seen a laser going right through metal - so tis a function of scale and form of the matter I reckon - but this idea seems one that ought get more attention - cause the rock in Peru especially - so precise - how the hell they do that without liquids seems a fair question to pose.

Buffalo_Ken · 2025-06-07T23:15:17Z

Buffalo_Ken - well guess I missed that bet twas 2 7 6 I think...whod'a thunk...

life · 2025-06-08T21:01:17Z

natron ? nope; interesting idea though.

Edward Leedskalnin knew, and likely several others.

life · 2025-06-08T21:29:37Z

life suppose the quarried granite object was resonated to a certain frequency which loosened the stone's molecular bonds, and a "scoop" was then used to remove material - the scoop being some device resonating at another frequency or employed technology that we do not have access to at the moment.

maybe some visitors back 15k years ago had the ability to mentally change the gravitational property of the stone blocks... the book Oversoul Seven (fiction novel written by Jane Roberts - who also provided us with the Seth Material) has an interesting character - Sempter - who belongs to a race that is visiting earth 35k years back, and they move massive stones with focussed mental ability.

i suspect there are technologically advanced races that manipulated the granite into structures - yet i suspect there are/were even further advanced beings that use thought to shape the stone - very much how like crop circles are made.

parzival · 2025-06-09T07:29:04Z

Ten thousand year old playground found off the coast of Hawaii... [Link]

Spur · 2025-06-09T07:42:24Z

parzival I expect we will get more of those AI generated 'breaking news' stories.

parzival · 2025-06-09T09:18:17Z

Spur Yes, I do imagine that will be so unfortunately. Thanks for pointing that out...

life · 2025-06-09T18:23:59Z

Spur parzival your links are always interesting parz, thanks !

Spur's on the money ... but i'll bet most readers soak it up as factual.

Buffalo_Ken · 2025-06-09T18:32:14Z

life - soak what up as factual?

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Look even dripping water is of concern when making a stone precise - but once a stone hardens it is a rock real - and if it is done au natural - then that ain't artificial.

~

So - what do you think others are going to "soak up" life Please elaborate.

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I should add - what matters to me most is the "here and now" - I mean the hear and now with my brothers and sisters in the neighborhood - here and now.

So don't be "cliquey" and please elaborate - cause good ideas deserve to be shared - do they not? Or is somebody hiding something they ought not?

Brings to mind this to me:

[Link] - at the time chosen life.

My home is across the Blue Ridge Mountain.

Ken

parzival · 2025-06-10T01:26:21Z

life Admittedly I wanted it to be so, just for the sheer novelty & fun of it all... Taken in by my own projections.

parzival · 2025-06-10T01:35:36Z

Buffalo_Ken Ken, thanks for the vid w/Joan Baez singing at the end. Blue Ridge Mountains are beautiful... Regarding the comment left by life it wasn't 'cliquey' Ken. In fact if you followed the threads above it, I posted an AI fake news "discovery" that was neither news nor a discovery. I got taken in by my own zeal to have the phony presentation be so... That's all it is Ken. By the way, my favorite Joan Baez song is Diamonds & Rust, a love song of sorts to her much younger lover Bob Dylan. [Link]

life · 2025-06-10T01:58:01Z

parzival lol, yeah i know what you mean, we're all human ... well, i'm sure you and i are anyway

cheers eh !

life · 2025-06-10T02:07:49Z

Buffalo_Ken

"soak up" Please elaborate.

it means the viewers are under the spell of the emotionally riveting media presentation; the viewers absorb the information without discernment, without critical observation, and without maintaining a unemotional detachment.

in other words their brains are like dry sponges and the a.i. production is absorbed between their ears like water.

"cliquey"

me... cliquey ? 🤔

Shirley you can't be serious ! [Link]

parzival · 2025-06-10T02:26:33Z

life Dry sponge mode not withstanding...

Buffalo_Ken · 2025-06-10T13:20:40Z

life - hey - not trying to change the subject and thanks for the feedback - have you seen this? Oh wait.....I'll post this link elsewhere so as to be on topic.....it could be uh what's the term - "a limited hangout" - but tis still a move in the direction desired by yours truly......

~

Shirley you can't be serious!

[Link]
I am serious - and don't call me Shirley!

Buffalo_Ken · 2025-06-10T13:23:44Z

parzival - have you watched the recent flick that came out about Bob Dylan? It was actually pretty good....

As for Joan Baez - she's the real deal I reckon.......

As for Earl Scruggs - he is the real deal no doubt.

Here is one of my favorite banjo videos:

[Link] - Foggy Mountain Breakdown.....

~

The Scruggs family comes from the county next to the one my homestead is within - I love North Carolina - Virginia also - heck - I love TN, KY, and WV as well.

Thanks P.

Ken

parzival · 2025-06-11T03:08:37Z

Buffalo_Ken Thanks Ken!

parzival · 2025-06-11T03:21:19Z

Buffalo_Ken From the album I about wore a hole in... [Link]

Dwoods44 · 2025-06-12T06:08:12Z

Jay Anderson bringing another report of subterranean structure beneath the Giza plateau. [Link]

life · 2025-06-12T13:22:48Z

Dwoods44 interesting link, thanks D ... though Jay discusses the difference between synthetic aperture radar and ground penetrating radar and why sar is preferred ... the viewer is left (at least i am) questioning ... in other words i see a big hamburger bun but [Link] ...

know what i'm saying ? we need Jay and the SAR guys to ...[Link]

life · 2025-06-12T13:51:35Z

life Dwoods44 having watched some of Jays other videos i have to say his information is intriguing and requires further research ! cheers

Dwoods44 · 2025-06-13T03:56:32Z

life Right. What is SAR technology?

I don't have the background to understand it, but it appears the scientists have proven its ability to define structures under the ground.

life · 2025-06-13T14:57:22Z

Dwoods44 my background is mech eng yet it takes a while, and lots of reading, for this new tech to wrap around my old cold soldered connections, anyways, there's lots of info on yootube and elsewhere - the name itself "synthetic aperture" radar is somewhat unintuitive.

Buffalo_Ken · 2025-06-13T18:51:19Z

life - they can fly low level aeroplanes over the hills of appalachia and scan underground and this activity has been happening for awhile - but suggest to me - subs can be found using the same tech. And so - if that is so - then those subs are likely going to rest on the bottom when they are located - and then all onboard will perish and that ends said nuclear threat.

Dwoods44 · 2025-06-14T05:19:49Z

life You have the science to understand it.

An interesting note. Uri Gellar, made famous for using his mind to bend spoons, has been used by the oil industry to find oil under the ground. He is paid millions. At least that is what he reports in his Legacy interviews on the GAIA network. How does that work?

life · 2025-06-14T15:30:01Z

Buffalo_Ken mmmm i dunno about any real use of nuclear weapons happening.

nukes would mess up other realities not just ours, and that wouldn't be welcomed by the caretakers/resource managers imho; more likely the threats are used to tighten the thumb screws on the human race, regardless of nation or culture.

life · 2025-06-14T15:33:50Z

Dwoods44 ever dowse for water D44 ? maybe spoon bending is along those lines. : )

Dwoods44 · 2025-06-15T04:46:26Z

life I did live in the country where a dowser identified places to drill for water.

Gellar's abilities indicate that consciousness can affect physical reality and penetrate physical reality. Is Gellar real? The CIA studied him.

parzival · 2025-06-15T10:53:42Z

life Dowse were the days my friend, we thought they'd never end... [Link]

life · 2025-06-15T18:34:12Z

Dwoods44 somewhere i read where the lizzies studied Gellar too !

life · 2025-06-15T18:37:27Z

parzival OHHHHH GROANNNNNER !!!! good one !!!

yup ! the yid kids have really effed it up now ! great link, thanks man !!

parzival ·

life

· 2025-06-16T03:35:43Z

Dwoods44 ·

life

· 2025-06-16T04:17:25Z

katesisco · 2025-06-12T19:40:34Z

I am curious as to the timing of these 'stone' creations. Was this a period of high solar activity?

Buffalo_Ken · 2025-06-12T19:51:00Z

katesisco - are you suggesting "high solar activity" has an affect upon rock creations on Planet Earth?

I think you are and that is likely - or seems to be probable - but just to get clarity - is that what you are "suggesting"?

If so, do you already have a theory - and that is why you ask said question?

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I got some future epoxy plans and I really ought just watch this whole episode.....but the idea that liquids were involved in making these precise stone connections seems like one worth exploring - cause that might give some explanation - cause chiseling ain't gonna cut it - there ain't enough time in the day - and chiseling is fraught with error.

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Liquids on the other hand - consider electroplating in this regard - allow for precise shapes - if done under highly controlled conditions with proper equipment. I suspect - the surface of this has only been touched....but I think it has merit conceptually - and imagine this:

Study is done on things that help us learn together

lilies · 2025-10-19T17:33:03Z

I thought Marcell's theory is wrong, because pyramid stones are super angular and they are absolutely etched and cut large! At least they looked like that on the photos. But just for the sake of this radio show I looked it up in Yandex Image search - after Duck destroyed their previous amazing Preview-Powered image search now they have **nothing** like uggly Ggle. Anyway Yandex Image search was able to summon hi-res photos of pyramids and I was surprised by professionally [sic] examining them as an amateur sculptor. WOW! Marcell is right! From UP CLOSE the pyramid stones are totally lame, not look natural at all, like cut with a chisel - IN TRUCK SIZE - from a mountain and dragged with thousands of slaves to their destination. No. Those pyramid stones totally look like they were POURED IN PLACE! They look like limestone and sandstone, but there is granite recognizable as well. And they mostly look like cast / poured into place and solidified there. WOW!!

Photos:

[Link]
[Link]
So after these cast stones expel their water content, they become impermeable to water, so they don't melt in water, but floods cause stratification on them as visible on pyramids?

WOW!

Well, it was time, in The End, to at least find these out. :D

Buffalo_Ken · 2025-10-20T14:17:50Z

lilies

ps - the 2nd link didn't seem to want to load....

Buffalo_Ken · 2025-10-20T17:26:17Z

lilies - I can't comment on your post above for some reason nor mine in response from but 3 hours ago - this must be the 7th time this has happened - but I wanted simply to say - the 2nd link seems now to be working - at least for me - not sure why it got held up earlier.

Regardless - sorry for taking "prime" space here - but I "ain't allowed" to comment for some bizarre reason and uh.... nice post above .

Regards,

Ken

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