Today on MindMatters we discus the "schizo-autistic" worldview - hyper-rational, cynical, detached, technocratic - its flaws, and how it has dominated the intellectual life of humanity for at least the past 200 years. From Descartes and Kant to Freud, Marx and Ryle, this style of thinking has its uses, but can never provide an adequate picture of reality and how to act within it. If that isn't enough to burst your bubble of illusions, we also discuss Machiavelli and what he may actually have achieved in bringing to light the true intentions, workings and dynamics of the political class.
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Harrison Koehli co-hosts SOTT Radio Network's MindMatters, and is an editor for Red Pill Press. He has been interviewed on several North American radio shows about his writings on the study of ponerology. In addition to music and books, Harrison enjoys tobacco and bacon (often at the same time) and dislikes cell phones, vegetables, and fascists (commies too).
Born and raised in New York City, Elan has been an editor for SOTT.net since 2014 and is a co-host for MindMatters. He enjoys seeing and sharing what's true about our profoundly and rapidly changing world.
Adam joined the editorial team in 2014 and is a co-host of MindMatters. His particular interests include philosophy, history, exercise science, and technology. He particularly dislikes Critical Race Theory and people who're so afraid of death that they prevent others from living. He also knows kung fu.
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No doubt about it, 'travel broadens the mind.' It definitely can help one's worldview, especially when one interacts the the people directly & in their environment. There are exceptions of course:
The psychopaths Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx met at a small anarchist newspaper in Berlin that only published from January 1842 until March 1843. The Prussian State shut this paper down like Obama would a coal mine. Karl Marx was the editor.. Without this contact and first meeting, the world would be a much better and nicer one today.
Just as we saw the Cold War almost destroy our world; Communism is still advancing around the globe. We see very clearly now, the infiltration of the USA by degenerate Communists pretending to be “Socialists” like Sanders, AOC, Pelosi, and all the other miscreants running through our government wreaking havoc. Think about the wicked lies sickos like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and other mass murderers have told, with those being told today by the same psychologically wrecked minds like those of Biden, Harris, Schiff, and Waters … they have the same disjointed DNA.
Wherever these two mentally ill people went, Marx & Engels, revolution soon followed. The Marx-Engels duopoly was in Paris in 1844, next thing decent French citizens know, France has a revolution in 1848. Called the “February Revolution,” this utter chaos feeding off the constant Communist prodding and probing of workers, quickly spread to other areas of Europe. Germany (“March Revolution”), Italy, Denmark, Sweden (serious riots called the “March Unrest”), Switzerland (massive unrest and violence produced a new Constitution), and Hungary (the Hungarian Revolution of 1848). There were also tremendous uprisings and unrest in Poland, Spain, Ireland, and Portugal. Shock waves produced civil unrest in Great Britain and as far away as Nova Scotia, Canada, Brazil (the Praieira Revolt lasting five years), Chile (the Chilean Revolution of 1851).
And, of course, the pair were directly responsible for the Lenin and Trotsky team’s utter destruction of Russia and the Czarist government in 1917. This, after their insurrection in Russia was crushed in 1905.
Alexis De Tocqueville said of the time, “We are sleeping together in a volcano … the wind of revolution blows, the storm is on the horizon” and in the aftermath, ” … society was cut in two: those who had nothing were united in envy, and those who had anything united in common terror.” This is why Communists are terrorists. They sow terror wherever they go, they destroy individuals, small businesses, communities, and most importantly, families. We saw all this with the brutally violent BLM/Antifa riots over the past few years. BLM is thoroughly against the nuclear family, traditional mothers and fathers, and happy, satisfied people of any kind.
We saw the twisted wreckage of humanity from the Marx/Engels political plan across Europe from the early 1930s straight through to the fall of the Berlin Wall and even today. Entire groups of deeply faithful people with the right political, economic, and moral beliefs so different from grimy Communists had their lives turned upside down; their families destroyed; their possessions stolen; they were exiled to brutal work camps or killed.
It’s very difficult for Conservative journalists to write about and find evidence of Communist and Democrat wrongdoing as the Internet has been scrubbed of virtually all confirmation that Communism is a hateful, racist, and murderous ideology. Fortunately, the online world is a big place and I found this little piece of video called, “Marx and Engels were racists promoting genocide” featuring George Watson, [Link] the Library Historian at Cambridge University; he’s a very credible source. Engels had written that when their revolutions occurred there were “primitive peoples” in Europe who were “two stages behind” Engels and his disturbed brethren who would have to be “destroyed” because they were “racial trash.” Eugenics had its roots here as well...
This is the kind of damage psychopaths can cause. Some think it’s unintentional because of their mental illness; this is a weak and naive misunderstanding. Psychopaths do these things because they enjoy stimulating conflict, pain, and suffering among others. I don’t know exactly how they celebrate this division and agony that they father but they do celebrate it. They revel in it; they take glee. It’s the mark of true mental illness, the kind Jeffrey Dahmer and Adolph Hitler shared with Marx and Engels.
Just as Marx did, at some point, Engels fell in love with the writing of Hegel, the “philosopher” who developed something weird called a “ dialectic process .” Today we call this brainwashing. As far as Marx and Engels falling for this nutcase Hegel, all I can say is that small-minded, evil people plotting some kind of takeover of other humans tend to get into bed together. By the way, check out ' Deceived by the Dialectic Process ' [Link]
After Marx’s death, Engels spent the rest of his life in overdrive, working on Marx’s flimsy legacy and turning it into something significant for Communists and something filled with loathing and treachery for liberty-loving democracies. I’ve come to believe, as I’ve gotten to know the most pernicious of history’s “philosophers,” that without these final 12 years of hyperactivity Engels had over Marx’s unfinished grumblings, Communism might never have developed the wicked way it did. And the world would’ve flourished even more than it has in a more kind and rational way.
A quick note on the art work provided by the SOTT Team. In 1969 when King Crimson came out with 'The Court of the Crimson King' I was introduced to the name Schizoid Man from the short song '21st Century Schizoid Man,' as sung by Greg Lake. Later, I came upon the designation 'Schizoid man' while watching with amazement, one of my favorite sci-fi series 'The Prisoner,' which was about the attempt by very bad actors to control the mind of individuals trapped in a society once free thinking individuals find themselves in but unable to escape from... I recommend the series by the way.
Some form of desensitization helps, through rough experiences followed by thorough processing, others go on damping meds and report it helps. Yet others go for shutting emotions of completely and indeed atrophy of that part occurs, resulting in what essentially ends up being a form of psychopathy. Secondary psychopathy is then likely the switching between that intense emotional experience and shutdown. I guess I have a tendency to revolve through the lot.
Your discussion about what happens when we don't speak about problem is of course spot on, thanks for that. Ties in to whether people are good or bad in general. Many people have been asking me if it just isn't the case that people are bad and there's not much you can do. Every time I reply, no, people are in general good, but they trust bad people who convince them they're good for following their lead. The large majority wants to, and believes to be good, but indeed the manipulation tactics have become so intensely powerful that they convince them to not listen or even try to talk to the honest speakers anymore. Dissociative labels, mind whips, social exclusionary fears, health fears these days.. in addition to providing moral superiority if they just follow the lead of the 'politics'. Then when you try argue their beliefs with statements they haven't heard yet or have no response to, it triggers inferiority feelings which, because they believe to be good, are rather hurtful and they'll do anything to avoid. Yet my conclusion is, the majority of people absolutely wants to be good citizens, comrades, care for each other. Folly and games are a fine social thing, but too much is just too much, especially when almost the entire global population gets subjected to the same 'folly' that steeped in detrimental deceit. (talking about corona)
Now a question. Is it ok to use some of these manipulation tactics that I feel these days come almost naturally at times, as a means to get things past the installed programming by 'the powers at be'?
With the 2000 years WARS between the Noadic 3 main , FAKE, PSICOPATIC groups, today, in the XXI century, all this is TANGIBLE, real, not an Hyphotesis.
THE CHURCH OF ROME with still, after 1800 years, a PONTIFF MAXIMUS, now called the famous POPE of the Catholic Church and its other 1000 sects scattered all over the world.
T HE ORIGINS:
The Roman Empire, even if conquering with wars and fierce battles, had always RESPECTED the religious cults of others, their own "Religions", their customs of life, always and when they followed a certain SOCIAL AND CIVIC LAW, even if they were SLAVES let's say.
After the Battle of Ponte Milvio in Rome, MASSENZIO was defeated by CONSTANTINE the GREAT, the one who POLITICALLY invented "CHRISTIANITY". Since then, RELIGIOUS, ETHNIC RACISM has appeared, which has never happened in Human History. Then, follow the advent of ISLAM, as opposed to that DICTATORSHIP, then TALMUDISM , all why?
A fable told by the "Jews" even before, "my God is true, yours is NO" ..... These 3 FAITHS have DESTROYED the Roman Empire, society, peaceful coexistence between civilizations.
Constantine the Great, in my opinion, is the GREATEST CRIMINAL IN THE HISTORY OF HUMANITY .......
Today, after 1750 years, it continues.
This is the STORY dear friends ..........., Communism, Nazism, Zionism, slavery, racism, etc ..., arise from these premises.The worst GENOCIDES of Humanity arise from these 3 NOADIC FACTIONS.
What is philosophy? What is a world view as Elan noted? What is the nature of man? Why am I here? What is the meaning of existence? Is it a meaningless joke we are here? Art, music, literature, poetry, theater throughout time have all given life meaning and have raised all humanity. Each artistic creation was an inspired attempt by the artist/author to give a world view and meaning of life. Shakespeare presented the world view of many different characters: “Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more; it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.“” And also “What a piece of work is a man, how noble in reason, how infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and admirable, in action how like an angel, in apprehension how like a god! the beauty of the world, the paragon of animals—and yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust?” The latter means man is the noble creation of God, and at the same time so insignificant. Man is noble and virtuous and he is ignoble and decadent, his character ranges from low to high. What takes man higher? What brings him lower? Each of us learns through experience and choices. “The good I stand on is my truth and honesty.” Philosophy also tries to give life meaning, yet it is influenced by world views like materialism in our day. Plato and Socrates and Aristotle ask the question, What is the Good man seeks? Shakespeare’s The Tempest, appears to be his inward journey to awaken, all the characters are inside.
According to Jesus the human body, senses, mind and heart are the temple in which a god connected Self dwells. The human being is an antenna and receptor of impressions. In Ouspensky’s/Gurdjieff’s system, this shell includes an intellectual, emotional, moving and instinctive center or brain. Each brain has a domain, and there are levels of each corresponding to intellectual, emotional and mechanical levels. For example the intellectual part of the moving brain sees spacial relationships, depth, perspective as Adam noted, where you are in space, and it is how you learn through attention. The emotional part enjoys movement, flow, dance. The mechanical part does movement without thinking, but contains the library of movement information you’ve learned, like catching a ball, hanging clothes, getting dressed, where things are, maps of locations, etc. The intellectual part of the intellectual brain, sees perspectives in thought as viewpoints, and is able to think with reason about each. The intellectual part of the emotional brain, see perspectives in emotions, the source of empathy, compassion. In this system, the more you can Be in the intellectual parts of centers, the closer you are to connections to a higher brain and consciousness outside of bodily senses. The arts raise you up.
A world view is then a combination of moving, emotional and intellectual views of the world, our relationship to the world/humanity/nature and our relationship to what is beyond the physical world, God. The world view of psychopaths sees humanity as “hack-able animals” and “useless eaters”. They see themselves as the “chosen” leadership and royalty of the “stupid herd”. They have a belief system where a demonic being is their god. Only art, like paintings by Michelangelo or Bosch can portray the evil that they enjoy. Michelangelo portrayed himself in the judgment scene in the Sistine chapel as a flayed-skin body, because he felt he had chosen both the death of body and the death of soul. In my view, the real war we are in is a spiritual war; each of us must choose values like freedom and equality of opportunity, principles like God given human rights, virtue like courage and honor, compassion for the jab believers, love, connection to others and God.
A Poem of Michelangelo
NOW hath my life across a stormy sea
Like a frail bark reached that wide port where all
Are bidden, ere the final reckoning fall
Of good and evil for eternity.
Now know I well how that fond phantasy
Which made my soul the worshiper and thrall
Of earthly art, is vain; how criminal
Is that which all men seek unwillingly.
Those amorous thoughts which were so lightly dressed,
What are they when the double death is nigh?
The one I know for sure, the other dread.
Painting nor sculpture now can lull to rest
My soul that turns to His great love on high,
Whose arms to clasp us on the cross were spread.
The 'intellectual and rationalist' worships the God of rationalism and intellectuality with all the vim and vigor that the 'heathen/primitive' worships the God of heatheness and primitiveness.
How do you think he does it?
What makes him sooo good?
ned,
OUT
@balboa scwartz:
Pin(hole) Wizards.
Meaty, Beaty, Big and Bouncy.
I would certainly like it if life could be a little more fun (M,B,B,B) again. I have some fond memories...
I would like it (life) to be a great deal less pretentious and ordered/regulated Things really suck now. Again, I retain 'fond memories'. You know how many kids we crammed into a '69 Chevy pick-up? No seatbelts. Dogs too. Always a couple of mutts. In the back, the pick-up bed, along with more kids, sometimes ten of us. Maybe more. We didn't die and nobody got hurt--bad...sure it was risky, sometimes. Isn't life?
So my dad got really pissed sometimes (Didn't like rock'n'roll, was a vested minister. Though he did like dogs, and horses too. And he liked us, mostly.)
So he was basically a good guy, he loved people, just didn't care for rock music, especially while working on a sermon!.But I did! So did my older sister, back then, anyways. Lol. My dad would get so pissed....my mom, too, sometimes....sometimes they were mad at each other. So what? So fucking what?
Fuck the Canadian government.
Fuck every government, every biased, brazenly ruled and overly organized religion.
Let's just be people...loving each other...as we are. Fight a little bit, argue, but let peace (and freedom) reign.
One God.
So be it.
SO BE IT.
ned,
out
"Religions are the opium of the people":
"The foundation of irreligious criticism is: Man makes religion, religion does not make man. Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man - state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d'honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.
Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions . It is the opium of the people .
The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions . The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo. "
a simple sentence that Defines the Whole , he was right, in my opinion ;
as well as the other founder of Zionism , Simon Maximilian Südfeld , aka Max Simon Nordau , wrote that:
" God is the name that from the beginning of time to the present day men have given to their ignorance" .
The only thing I know about Machiavelli is that he was part of the system employed by the local powers of the time, no different today where high functioning individuals are used for everything from proof reading redacted documents to consulting and verifying the logic of foreign policy.
Cold hard logic, where the constructive and creative policies would more than likely be rejected over the easier destructive policies that require less energy to implement and benefit from.
A woman kept a small herd of donkeys on her farm, she also had a mad dog that enjoyed terrorising the donkeys by barking at them and chasing them around every chance he got.
One day three of the donkeys lured the mad dog out into the middle of the largest field where all at once all the other donkeys went for the dog, kicking at him while the dog tried to make his escape from being killed, whimpered as he did so and eventually cowering in the shelter and safety of the woman’s house far away from the donkeys and he never bothered the donkeys again.
Smart asses, true story. lol
"A bronze statue of 19th-century Belgian king Léopold II in the centre of Brussels could be melted down and turned into a monument to the millions who died during his brutal rule of the Belgian Congo and other victims of colonialism, an expert group has suggested..."
But the meat of the show, tying everything into this whole left vs right hemisphere thinking, really blew my mind.
The second matter is just as serious: all the talking about having a 'rich worldview' versus the black and white thinking of the schizo-autistic style hits a major iceberg in this very talk, somewhere about the 53rd minute where a conniving speaker is (accurately) called out as a liar. But that requires drawing a black and white line on truth now doesn't it? We need to know when to be 'rich' and when to be 'schizo-autistic', and how to shade between them.
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above vid - 45.50s
“My mind seems to have become a kind of machine for grinding general laws out of large collections of facts, but why this should have caused the atrophy of that part of the brain alone, on which the higher tastes depend, I cannot conceive.”
Darwin.
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Glaringly evident - concentraring focus hard toward a remote apparatus of ambiguous nature and binding it with a certainty, not only to the self, but into popular belief - has its consequences. Neglect the essence, and it sleeps.