NOTE: This is a visualization of Episode 090 of The Corbett Report podcast, first released on June 14, 2009.
Comment: Political Ponerology is a seminal book that describes what is quite probably THE great problem of our time.
NOTE: This is a visualization of Episode 090 of The Corbett Report podcast, first released on June 14, 2009.
Comment: Political Ponerology is a seminal book that describes what is quite probably THE great problem of our time.
Reader Comments
Anna1
2017-07-21T22:57:15Z
As long as they care for something or someone these people, by definition, are capable of caring. That is a good start.
Anna1 Nobody home, not like us, incapable of empathy, mud people. For millennia there have been mad kings and such and such king bad or nobles who take the virginity of the wives of their subjects just after their marriage and before they have had their night of initial passion with hubby. I am sorry I have had many many run ins with these " things " and they are machines. Now on another angle, they are conscience, they have the capacity to become human, perhaps a few lifetimes down the line. For now though, they are the bane of our planet.
From everything I have read about pychopaths they all seem to have one element in common: they treat life and their experiences as a computer simulation such that conscience becomes irrelevant.They don't "treat life like a computer simulation". That's just how they think. Just because an animal can think, doesn't mean it can think like a human with a conscience. It's not as if the hardware is irrelevant.
Now certainly we are capable of convincing ourselves we understand how psychopaths think. But we fail over and over again at that task, as any psychopath can demonstrate readily.
What if a psychopath were to suddenly gain a conscience? How do you know it wouldn't destroy them completely? Or that they wouldn't just use it to continue to become even more evil?
Monotonic
Now certainly we are capable of convincing ourselves we understand how psychopaths think. But we fail over and over again at that task, as any psychopath can demonstrate readily.Good point. History shows us that humanity hasn't got a clue about psychopathy, otherwise, surely 6% of the population would not have imposed its rather desolate world view on 94% of the population. They would not occupy just about every position of influence in just about every sphere of human activity.
graeme15b Your comment above suggests that all leaders are psychopaths, and that one of the principal traits of a psychopath is their ability to lead others using all or any means available to them.
Maybe psychopaths are cleverer than most people and they have a vision of the direction in which they are leading to. Conscience is particularly relevant in an ordered gathering of people (and for ascension).
The psychopaths are those who piggyback on the conscience of others to get what they want. Odd how this seems to lead to social order and social cohesion.
Maybe psychopaths are cleverer than most people and they have a vision of the direction in which they are leading to. Conscience is particularly relevant in an ordered gathering of people (and for ascension).
The psychopaths are those who piggyback on the conscience of others to get what they want. Odd how this seems to lead to social order and social cohesion.
Anna1 Not all leaders are psychopaths, no. Putin, Assad, for example. However, the lack of conscience, and shameless lying, makes them appear more clever than others, because others measure them with their own measure of conscience. Most people could never justify killing millions in Iraq for example, all based on lies. No, that alone would kill a normal human being. Could you, for example lead your country into killing innocent people, (for any reason) if you knew the pretext for such a war was all lies? I don't think so, i know i couldn't. Most couldn't either. I had a conversation with someone years ago, and he said that Tony Blair must perform all sorts of mental gymnastics, just so he could sleep at night. I said, no, not at all. He just doesn't give a sh*t. So psychopaths may seem clever to people of conscience, because people of conscience assume that they have conscience. Not so. They naturally gravitate towards leadership positions, and to them, not a position with tremendous responsibilities, no, just a position for self gratification. In the west today, most leaders are probably psychopaths, if not, then some psychopath will have something on them, like NSA, GCHQ for example. Just to make sure they do their bidding. Assassination is always an option for the non compliant, character or actual....
On the spectrum of psychopaths there are some among us who would watch violent movies without flinching a muscle. Worse still, they would actually claim to have 'enjoyed the movie" and been entertained.
People are being desensitised to observing unpleasant experiences. The norms of behaviour shift accordingly.
People are being desensitised to observing unpleasant experiences. The norms of behaviour shift accordingly.
Anna1 Whether all psychopaths are sadistic or not, i don't think so. However, there would be total indifference at least to violent scene's, and no emotional impact whatsoever.
People are being desensitised to observing unpleasant experiences. The norms of behaviour shift accordingly.Yes, the ponerization of the masses of normal people. There is an article today, about a group of teenagers who watched a man drown, and did nothing. They were laughing, and posted the clip on social media. Complete disassociation. Confirms your point above.
The is a realisation trick with regard to happiness. The profound difference between being happy and being more or less happy. Think of it a planning ahead, I will conduct activity that will make me less happy now but the reward in the future will be greater happiness than I have at the moment.
It is many ways impossible to sustain the same level of happiness, the general goal to oscillate between sombre and ecstatic upon a reasonable basis, not too sharp, not too sudden but a controlled drift from one to another based upon activity. Think of the balance between exercise and eating, insufficient exercise leads to poor health, excessive eating leads to poor health and poor health is pretty miserable, not desirable at all.
Something to bear in mind about more or less happy, start really low and although they can be more happy and derive satisfaction from it, others might consider that more happy, to be extremely unhappy, think self harm and abuse, start low enough for long enough and extremely bad outcomes are still an improvement.
So balance your happiness, plan ahead to serve it and respect the happiness of others, unless the people you make more unhappy, make you more unhappy in turn as a direct result of you ill planned actions.
Care and share in the wonder, joy and understanding of life.
It is many ways impossible to sustain the same level of happiness, the general goal to oscillate between sombre and ecstatic upon a reasonable basis, not too sharp, not too sudden but a controlled drift from one to another based upon activity. Think of the balance between exercise and eating, insufficient exercise leads to poor health, excessive eating leads to poor health and poor health is pretty miserable, not desirable at all.
Something to bear in mind about more or less happy, start really low and although they can be more happy and derive satisfaction from it, others might consider that more happy, to be extremely unhappy, think self harm and abuse, start low enough for long enough and extremely bad outcomes are still an improvement.
So balance your happiness, plan ahead to serve it and respect the happiness of others, unless the people you make more unhappy, make you more unhappy in turn as a direct result of you ill planned actions.
Care and share in the wonder, joy and understanding of life.
What James Corbett said at the end is worth some thought. There are wolves, sheep and sheep dogs. Which one are you?
Something that's also worth a thought: How long do the sheep think a small number of sheep dogs are going to defend them for, if they're not prepared to put in the effort to learn to defend themselves?
Something that's also worth a thought: How long do the sheep think a small number of sheep dogs are going to defend them for, if they're not prepared to put in the effort to learn to defend themselves?
Identifying someone as a psychopath today on TV is Prince Harry saying how his mother's 'best' advice was: "You can be as naughty as you like, just don't get caught".
Correction to the above. One of her mottos (rather than advice).
Nevertheless it is still not a motto I would pass on to any child whilst trying to educate them to live conscientiously and harmoniously in a community.
Nevertheless it is still not a motto I would pass on to any child whilst trying to educate them to live conscientiously and harmoniously in a community.
your all a bunch of ignorant geese, look up the word and realize theres about 8 out of 10 people who fit the bill!!
and who votes?
and who votes?
blackwolfpaul Where should we flock to, to see the truth about how 80% of the population are psychopaths?
Seems apparent to me from your comment that the answer to this question is no, but i will ask anyway. Have you actually read anything on the topic?
Have you ever voted?
Seems apparent to me from your comment that the answer to this question is no, but i will ask anyway. Have you actually read anything on the topic?
and who votes?Many, for different reasons. Some hoping to maintain the status quo, others hoping to change things for the better, whether deluded or not, doesn't make one a psychopath. That seems rather simplistic.
Have you ever voted?
hey graeme yes i voted for psycopaths,
they are all greedy with power, in a way this world is full of them, we could be those also!!
they are all greedy with power, in a way this world is full of them, we could be those also!!
blackwolfpaul Psychopaths feel no remorse for the harm they cause others, EVER . A damaged person, or a ponerized person is a different matter altogether. There will be conscience, however much it is buried inside, or twisted out of shape. Psychopaths do not have conscience at all. Big difference! Then there is the matter of Organic Portals...
Not all politicians are greedy power seekers either. Most probably believe they are doing the right thing, serving the community, etc. Whether the knowledge is present is another matter also! Undeniably politics, as other fields do attract psychopaths. But to categorically label all of them psychopaths is misleading, and lazy, imho. We live in a world that is pathological, so its rather difficult, if not impossible not to get through life without some damage.
There is some really good books on this topic that are very much worthwhile reading.
Without conscience by Dr Robert Hare.
Snakes in Suits by Dr Robert Hare & Paul Babiak.
The Mask of Sanity by Hervey Cleckley.
The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout.
The Myth of Sanity by Martha Stout.
The 3 volume Secret History of the World series by Laura Knight Jadczyk & Pierre Lescaudron.
Political Ponerology by Andrew Lobaczewski.
9-11 The Ultimate Truth by Laura Knight Jadczyk & Joe Quinn.
The Wave series by Laura Knight Jadczyk.
For anyone with an astrological interest: The Dark of the Soul by Liz Greene.
There are other good books i'm sure, but these are the ones i'm familiar with.
Not all politicians are greedy power seekers either. Most probably believe they are doing the right thing, serving the community, etc. Whether the knowledge is present is another matter also! Undeniably politics, as other fields do attract psychopaths. But to categorically label all of them psychopaths is misleading, and lazy, imho. We live in a world that is pathological, so its rather difficult, if not impossible not to get through life without some damage.
There is some really good books on this topic that are very much worthwhile reading.
Without conscience by Dr Robert Hare.
Snakes in Suits by Dr Robert Hare & Paul Babiak.
The Mask of Sanity by Hervey Cleckley.
The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout.
The Myth of Sanity by Martha Stout.
The 3 volume Secret History of the World series by Laura Knight Jadczyk & Pierre Lescaudron.
Political Ponerology by Andrew Lobaczewski.
9-11 The Ultimate Truth by Laura Knight Jadczyk & Joe Quinn.
The Wave series by Laura Knight Jadczyk.
For anyone with an astrological interest: The Dark of the Soul by Liz Greene.
There are other good books i'm sure, but these are the ones i'm familiar with.
