Ariana Grande, Twitter thread on sexism requires 'otherworldly patience'

Hmmm.

Again, like the SF quarterback, we have an imperfect messenger... to say the least... but her point is well intentioned... if a wee bit oblivious to the industry she works for, as it is purposely perverting the environment... same with our education system, our science, religious, political systems, et al.

The use of 'flirty' attire has to be seen in the light of the sexual nature of most of the songs sung while wearing them. You have to be 'sexy' to get away with all of this, and Ariana is... but she is right in that there is a difference between being 'sexy', being a public sex object and being an open target for public abuse, as I doubt that most of her fans buying her product (music, attire etc) are males seeking sex with her... this 'young man' was most likely a rap fan, right? As this Miller dude is one.... and he should've used his statue with his 'fan' to set him straight in how not to talk to a woman.... othewise, he's anchoring himself into a ghetto mindset that the establishment wants to keep him in.... a slave essentially... and sex is the body's primary means of expression after the more basic needs of hunger and thirst have been met. This 'young man' might be still at the primary level of social expression... the animal level, but he could just be a product of our perverted society... another sign of our end-times. The only 'culture' left to express on our way down is this perverted form of 'music', which is selling sex for the most part, and messed up relationships that need fixing... the next level on the ladder of expression.

If nothing else, this experience has secured Ariana her fan base and generated a social discussion about something 'real' instead of something 'fake'... same as most songs these days, stuck in relationship issues.... blocking stones to throw at each other... until they get too heavy to carry and thrown aside as we carry on with our journey... our Tao.

I'm a lumberjack and I'm Ok

Live by the sword, die by the sword. Get over it or change careers.

"How to cope with the residual effects of degrading insults and sexual innuendo..."

Ahem..

Ariana's Vevo page. LOL..[Link]

Good move. Turn yourself into a crass oversexualised object, then complain that you're subject to 'objectification'.

"Maybe it will always be this way and men remain crass and clueless"

Full of guile, aren't you?

While she might well have...

.... rather incited some of what has been said, maybe; grace responds with Grace

Using feminist rhetoric to defend this toxic arch-exploitive rubbish goes against the words and deeds of anyone who ever even had one good intention in the whole history of so-called feminism, and I think the anonymous hypocrite who's responsible for the blue text accompanying the article should re-read what they've written, force themselves to watch every video on Ariana Grande's Vevo page, go over their own criminal thought processes, and hand themselves in to the nearest police station.

Feminazis on the lose. It's part of the culture.... If everything is so hypersexualised, then some people will just go pathological about it all.

A lot of female artists use sex to sell... Look at the videos. Then when their fans say 'they'd like to hit that', they go crazy... Most of these artists will go out of business if you took the sex image from their product. You'll only be left with good and decent musicians and not caricatures of the times we live in.

Feminazis gonna hate no matter what....

Plus I wouldn't be surprised if this didn't happen.... Someone is getting free publicity is all I will say..

I'm not a puritan and I don't object to sexy women in films, art, or wherever else, but defending this post-red-blooded, post-hormonal, toxic, ultra-contrived, ultra-calculated, genetically modified, pseudo-sexy, post-porn-modernist STS junk and utter rubbish flat-cat-ears music with 1960's feminist rhetoric is so far to the left or right of sanity, I can scarcely express my disgust over it.

Out of curiosity...

...How many men actually feel happy and enjoy seeing sexy bodies of women on every bus stop, shop window, magazine, TV advert, etc, etc?

Personally, I don't need all that crap (no offence to the exploited sexy women who prostitute their bodies for the advertising or music or film industry) going into my senses during my waking life whilst walking through a town... in fact, as crazy as it sounds, I'd be quite happy to see women fully clothed, not showing any naked parts, and to have a beautiful loyal wife with who we can share the mystery of being human... I think that would be an incredible world to live in... I'm not proposing we do this as a society, but I'm saying it to make a point...

...How is it that this society has equated "woman's liberation" with "women, get your kit off and shake your booty!"? The two are opposite, you can't have your cake and eat it.

Seeing all that crap smeared over the towns and cities is rotting the human spirit... and I don't see all the men gawking at the photos, nor do I see all the women folding their arms and tutting and complaining... Nor do I see the women prostituting themselves in those photos being harassed, they all look very very happy, smiling away like prostitutes in order to get a few coins thrown at them... I don't see any men forcing them into the photography studio at knife point. This whole idea that it is a "man's world" is a joke.

Men act like the boss, women act like victims, and the problem in this world is that there are too many bosses and too many victims... making women become bosses and turning men into victims is not the solution, it is Satan's punchline.

If Ariana wants her freedom, then she should stop being a prostitute (using sex to make money).

I see how this goes ... woman can walk around in a thong, freely be able to and should NOT be objectified or seen as a sexual toy of some sort. Gotcha. Makes sense if you think about it.

"...How many men actually feel happy and enjoy seeing sexy bodies of women on every bus stop, shop window, magazine, TV advert, etc, etc?"

I don't give a crap. I don't look at advertising. Besides which, advertising and objectification is an issue all on its own, and advertising in general is a total annoyance whatever the content.

As far as I'm concerned, the problem with this whole deal we're talking about here is this: although it's calculated to be sexy, it ain't. It's just sort of 'dead'. Similarly with all the histrionical vocal pyrotechnics and acrobatics you get to expect from that sort of music these days, full of sound, fury, rigor, and mortis.

I'm going to speculate....

I have to wonder whether fluoridation of the water supply has got anything to do with any of this. You have this fantastic lineage of American female singers that at some point in the eighties is interrupted by a parade of soul-sucking toxic harpies from about Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey onwards.

Apparently, drinking fluoridated water calcifies the pineal gland. I imagine that amongst other negative effects (see generation snowflake), a calcified pineal gland would prevent you from manufacturing Hydrogen 12, probably an essential tool for a great artist. I would also think that if you've been drinking fluoridated water all your life, you're probably well and truly screwed. Don't bother doing meditation, yoga, or imagining you're doing 'the work', it's pointless.

I'm going to run a couple of Gurdjieff quotes from ISOTM by you. Feel free to join the dots...

"At the same time sex plays a tremendous role in maintaining the mechanicalness of life. Everything that people do is connected with 'sex': politics, religion, art, the theater, music, is all 'sex'. Do you think people go to the theater or to church to pray or to see some new play? That is only for the sake of appearances. The principal thing, in the theater as well as in church, is that there will be a lot of women or a lot of men. This is the center of gravity of all gatherings. What do you think brings people to cafés, to restaurants, to various fetes? One thing only. Sex: it is the principal motive force of all mechanicalness. All sleep, all hypnosis, depends upon it.

You must try to understand what I mean. Mechanicalness is especially dangerous when people try to explain it by something else and not by what it really is. When sex is clearly conscious of itself and does not cover itself up by anything else it is not the mechanicalness about which I am speaking. On the contrary sex which exists by itself and is not dependent on anything else is already a great achievement. But the evil lies in this constant self-deception.

Cosmic forces have created this state of affairs and cosmic forces control this state of affairs. And you ask: Can it be left like that or should it be changed. God himself could change nothing. Do you remember what was said about the forty-eight laws? They cannot be changed, but liberation from a considerable portion of them is possible, that is to say, there is a possibility of changing the state of affairs for oneself, it is possible to escape from the general law. You should understand that in this case as well as in all others the general law cannot be changed. But one can change one's own position in relation to this law; one can escape from the general law. The more so since in this law about which I speak, that is, in the power of sex over people, are included many different possibilities. It includes the chief form of slavery and it is also the chief possibility of liberation."

Further to that...

'New birth' of which we have spoken before, depends as much upon sex energy as do physical birth and the propagation of species. 'Hydrogen' si 12 is the 'hydrogen' which represents the final product of the transformation of food in the human organism. This is the matter with which sex works and which sex manufactures. It is 'seed' or 'fruit.' 'Hydrogen' si 12 can pass into do of the next octave with the help of an 'additional shock.' But this 'shock' can be of a dual nature and different octaves can begin, one outside the organism which has produced si, and the other in the organism itself. The union of male and female si 12 and all that accompanies it constitutes the 'shock' of the first kind and the new octave begun with its help develops independently as a new organism or a new life.

This is the normal and natural way to use the energy of si 12. But in the same organism there is a further possibility. And this is the possibility of creating a new life within the actual organism, in which the si 12 has been manufactured, without the union of the two principles, the male and the female. A new octave then develops within the organism, not outside it. This is the birth of the 'astral body'. You must understand that the 'astral body' is born of the same material, of the same matter, as the physical body, only the process is different. The whole of the physical body, all its cells, are, so to speak, permeated by emanations of the matter si 12. And when they have become sufficiently saturated the matter si 12 begins to crystallize. The crystallization of this matter constitutes the formation of the 'astral body'.

The transition of matter si 12 into emanations and the gradual saturation of the whole organism by it is what alchemy calls 'transmutation' or transformation. It is first this transformation of the physical body into the astral that alchemy called the transformation of the 'coarse' into the 'fine' or the transformation of base metals into gold.

Completed transmutation, that is to say, the formation of the 'astral body', is possible only in a healthy, normally functioning organism. In a sick, or a perverted, or a crippled organism, no transmutation is possible.
Is complete sexual abstinence necessary for transmutation and is sexual abstinence, in general, useful for work on oneself? we asked him.

Here there is not one but a number of questions, said G. In the first place sexual abstinence is necessary for transmutation only in certain cases, that is, for certain types of people. For others it is not at all necessary. And with yet others it comes by itself when transmutation begins. I will explain this more clearly. For certain types a long and complete sexual abstinence is necessary for transmutation to begin; this means in other words that without a long and complete sexual abstinence transmutation will not begin. But once it has begun abstinence is no longer necessary. In other cases, that is, with other types, transmutation can begin in a normal sexual life — and on the contrary, can begin sooner and proceed better with a very great outward expenditure of sex energy. In the third case the beginning of transmutation does not require abstinence, but, having begun, transmutation takes the whole of sexual energy and puts an end to normal sexual life or the outward expenditure of sex energy.
Then the other question — 'Is sexual abstinence useful for the work or not?'

It is useful if there is abstinence in all centers. If there is abstinence in one center and full liberty of imagination in the others, then there could be nothing worse. And still more, abstinence can be useful if a man knows what to do with the energy which he saves in this way. If he does not know what to do with it, nothing whatever can be gained by abstinence."

"If Ariana wants her freedom, then she should stop being a prostitute (using sex to make money)."

Or she should just carry on being a prostitute, enjoy her spoils and stop whining for more victims from whom to extract more blood.

Going back into the mists of over-mediated sex-bomb history, I can't imagine Marlene Dietrich or whomever reacting in such a pathetic, vampiristic fashion towards some insignificant little wanker fan-boy.

This phrase 'objectification' is an interesting one. Biblical isn't it, really? Graven images and all that.

Q: Is Michelangelo 'objectifying' males?...[Link]

I'm not a puritan. I try and be a pragmatist. No sexy women = No human life.

For anyone interested

in further discussion of the issue(s), see here: [Link]

This woman is really going to the bank on this. No bugger had ever heard of her before. LOL.

Oh, I didn't see this...

Joe said:

"But in your case, you don't even WRITE ranting articles, you just rant ABOUT the work of OTHERS. Is that really a position you like hold?"

Yeah, actually it is, and as I've said before, I take my negative role here very seriously.

'Feeling 'objectified'? Try LIFE.

'Feeling 'objectified'? Try LIFE.

I can remember a time where one practically couldn't conceive anyone in the world caring (nor should it) that I FELT objectified, as used by Star of the Day, Week, Decade, minute, who/whatever*, above says

The above ‘incident’‘s main value - insofar as I can see - is merely that ye SOTTites, SOTTypes and SOTTies*- have conducted a an
engaging dialogue about it.

R.C.

*Cr. 'Lysna', as I recall.

RC

Ben Shapiro Discusses Ariana Grande And Modern Feminism...[Link]