MindMatters: Freedom in Tyranny: Ernst Jünger's The Forest Passage

Nature has always been the natural refuge from Plato’s Cave - Demiurge - Matrix - Man’s creation.

I am unfamiliar with Junger. In looking at reviews of his work, here is one about The Glass Bees.

"In stature, The Glass Bees is equal to the technocracies of Orwell, Huxley, Kafka and Philip K. Dick, but it seems to be either unknown or unjustly neglected by readers of these and similar dystopian futures. The book’s greatness comes from Jünger’s ability to create psychological tension and ambiguity, and from his foresight into the nascent conjunction of information technology, entertainment media, capital and political power as we know it today."

At about the 25 minute mark Harrison talks about Junger discussing fear generated by tyranny and how we are to respond. Bringing it to the current times, how are we to respond to the tyranny of lockdowns, transhumanism, genetic modification, bioweapon genocide, psychological manipulation through technology and media? How do we continue to develop our own consciousness in the midst of the lie?

One reviewer of The Forrest Passage indicates this is what Junger’s intent is in this book. How to keep your Self, grow your Self in the midst of tyranny.

Quote from the review: “Thus, it is imperative to draw on the self-practice consisting in keeping the catastrophe in view and in taking into account “the ways in which one may get entangled in it” because if we employ this exercise, “the fear will diminish”. In other words, Jünger theorized the recourse to the self-technology of the premeditation on future evils.” I would paraphrase this to, if you see the narrative and manipulation you free yourself from the fear.

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"robbing tyranny of its bite....its seriousness, disarm it with humour"

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isn't their idiocy farcical enough, as how do you ridicule a reality that outdoes the stupidest of inventions, there's nothing serious enough to be shaped into comical,, "hey lets make a joke about the antics of out to lunch madmen doing the craziest of things"....Erm ?.

And it's been that way for decades, how the people didn't notice it's rise, now that, is hilarious..

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“Though, like Everhard, they did not dream of the nature of it, there were men, even before his time, who caught glimpses of the shadow. John C. Calhoun said: "A power has risen up in the government greater than the people themselves, consisting of many and various and powerful interests, combined into one mass, and held together by the cohesive power of the vast surplus in the banks." And that great humanist, Abraham Lincoln, said, just before his assassination: "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.”

― Jack London, The Iron Heel - 1907

sure does - woods, as seen in the link you posted ....Yes - they are the Joke - which is concerning, but not for those who acknowledge their stupidity as sensible, the spin there is, the jokes on them, which is where were at, caught up in a sick normalty that increasingly seeks to corrupt the ability of the observer to recognise a yarn, establishing the act while weakening the script to the level of childrens television.

'Getting Hot Out There in Election Fraud Land' The people are closing in. by ELIZABETH NICKSON MAY 20, 2023 [Link]

You know you got an observer and you have that which is being observed. How does one tell the difference twixt one or the other?

Well, I'll provide a clue - to observe something changes it after the observation and so suggest everything is in flux and everything must be changing in time - nothing is static - not even nothing.

An observer might not think they are making a difference, but the mere act of observing changes what is being observed - does it not?

So, I don't ascribe to quantum ideas as they have evolved into, but this idea has merit. The act of observing something small scale especially means the something observed ain't the same as what it was before senses were fixed upon it - and to take this to its logical extreme in an ironic way it sort of proves that quantum mechanics is nothing but mathematical imagination gone all post-modernist where nothing can be defined and nothing is everything and vice-versa at the same time.

But, let us all agree that some things are based upon solid foundation and observation does not change these things. For example, if you have ever been in love with somebody else, then that love must come from somewhere and truly I suggest - that love is irrefutable - it is fixed. It is not subject to change - no observation can make a difference on that. Ergo - some things are beyond change and beyond language, they are beyond semantics, they are fixed as time moves forward - they are irrefutable. They cannot be changed, then never will be, and there is nothing anybody can do even in imagination to refute this.

That is why I think time moves in one direction only in a fixed manner irrefutable - that is what is called a absolute presupposition. It cannot be proved wrong - tis a matter of principle.

But if that is the principle one takes, then the stance is fixed - and nothing or anything anybody does or says will change the stance. It is fixed - it is an absolute presupposition.

OK?

Can you live with that?

If not - tell me why?

Regardless - it is the principle upon which I reside - the foundation of my being.

So, I don't know about you, but I hope for better times in the future and I can say this with confidence.

Time will tell.

BK

Out of respect for L.P. Koch and this fine introduction in the MindMatters discussion. 8 minutes in.

He wrote against liberal values, democracy, and the Weimar Republic, but rejected the advances of the Nazis who were rising to power. During World War II Jünger served as an army captain in occupied Paris, but by 1943 he had turned decisively against Nazi totalitarianism and its goal of world conquest, a change manifested in his work "Der Friede" (The Peace). Jünger was dismissed from the army in 1944 after he was indirectly implicated with fellow officers who had plotted to kill Hitler.

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Now, lets remember Rommel was also involved in the plot and Rommel was killed for his part. He did it for his family, Rommel did. Germany truly needs to get a clue.

BK

They will reject intrinsically opposed moral values - I'm offended you are trying to enforce it upon me.

Sort of speaks to the difference between observing and being observed.

52 minutes in.

No coercion desired....obedience to obey is not necessarily bad, but it is first and foremost critical to maintain ones integrity against ideas of the state. To be subject to the state is to deny ones own individuality - any state pushes this or that is a state to be denied, refuted, and rejected.

Automatons are a dime a dozen.

I advise everybody to have an axe in the house - either that or a baseball bat.

Basically 1:02 minutes in plus 30 seconds when there was a pause.

If I have to use the bat I will - to protect my home and my family.

I don't give heed to attracting opponents to my principle.

I will defend my principle which is based upon

defense - so response will be

accordingly.

DUH!