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Tucker Carlson calls on Elon Musk to release docs he says will show Twitter acted as 'an arm of government intel agencies'

Michael Luciano
Mediaite
Tue, 13 Dec 2022 21:38 UTC

Fox News host Tucker Carlson claimed that Twitter has been functioning as a ward of the deep state because it employs people who previously worked at certain U.S. government agencies.

On Tuesday, Carlson even called on new Twitter CEO Elon Musk to release information related to these employees' actions at the company that he alleged will prove his claim.

"Let's say you're trying to staff a social media site," he began. "How many spies would you hire? Well, probably none. Spies have nothing to do with the mission of a social media company. They would not be needed and you wouldn't hire any opera singers either. Yet for some reason, Twitter seemed to need a lot of spies."

The host went on to state that Twitter's upper management ranks "were absolutely loaded with people who once did intel work for government agencies - at least 15 of these people and possibly many more."

He noted that James Baker, the company's former deputy general counsel, worked for the FBI. Carlson listed several Twitter employees by name who used to work for the government and stated this shows the company is peppered with spies who worked for the bureau and other agencies such as the CIA and NSA.

"And it wasn't just American intel officers that found a home at Twitter," he continued before citing a former Twitter employee who claimed that foreign government "operatives" worked at the company and had access to private user data."

Carlson turned his attention to Musk.

"Elon Musk was asked recently how many former FBI agents are employed by Twitter," Carlson continued. "But he wouldn't say. It's all pretty weird."

Carlson then alleged Twitter has been working on behalf of the government intelligence community.

"If Twitter has been functioning as the arm of government intel agencies - and clearly, it has been - then its internal documents will contain information about all kinds of things."

He then noted Musk has access to information that will supposedly show Twitter acted on behalf of the government and said he wants to see said data.

"Elon Musk now has control of the most significant trove of secret information ever to reside in private hands," Carlson concluded. "So far we have not seen much of it and you have to wonder why we haven't. Let's hope that we do."

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TBoris · 2022-12-15T12:31:20Z

Here is the problem... All media including FOX news is full of people working for the government including CIA Tucker... What this is (I think) is about disclosure. The government is admitting though articles like this its "declaration" of the involvement of the state in the affairs at Twitter(but only the democrats). The plan (and don't give it to them) is to make Twitter (under Musk) look like independent journalism again. It is not. They(the globalists) want to pin as much crap on the democrats, so that when they are "swept away"(really?) by more phony elections, all the dirt can go under the rug with the outgoing corrupted politicians.

Artex · 2022-12-15T14:54:35Z

TBoris Social media is going to change, or people will stop using it entirely. We're in a technological singularity concerning communication and have been for almost 20 years. We (humans) haven't figured it out yet, but a lot more are realizing that social media itself is basically a giant honey pot for the government. I'd encourage you to read what Jack Dorsey has to say about it in the link I posted in another comment in this thread (I don't want to spam post the link).

I agree with most of what you said, but I have this glimmer of hope that Musk buying Twitter with the blessing of Jack Dorsey is a plan that has been in the works for several years. It could go one of several ways, and both Musk and Dorsey are going to be dragged mercilessly and might not make it through alive because of the monster they are pissing off right now.

sass ·

TBoris , Bingo.

· 2022-12-15T22:30:55Z

TBoris · 2022-12-15T22:48:47Z

Artex I would cross off ~~Elon Musk~~ from that "glimmer of hope" - read Miles Mathis: 'I Don't Believe in Elon Musk' [Link]
Do not know what great words were heaped upon Elon Musk by Dorsey, but I too have read many(and lots on SOTT). Regardless(of that), if one is with Miles [Mathis](as I am), one would be very suspect that Twitter is anything but "controlled opposition".

Dwoods44 · 2022-12-15T13:55:03Z

Musk and Carlson appear to be doing a good thing by revealing some of the corruption and criminal actions of critter and the government to manipulate the people.

The question is are they simply controlling the narrative, controlling what is revealed or the Framing of the revelation? I don't know. If they reveal that the plandemic genocide and murder of the population leading to a totalitarian technocracy and NAZI eugenics is what is occurring, we know they have gone the distance.

TBoris · 2022-12-15T13:59:54Z

Dwoods44 "If they reveal that the plandemic genocide and murder of the population leading to a totalitarian technocracy and NAZI eugenics is what is occurring, we know they have gone the distance."... Good test to see if the tide is turning.

Dwoods44 · 2022-12-15T14:45:45Z

TBoris I hope that Musk and Carlson have been flipped from their backgrounds.

TBoris · 2022-12-15T15:45:38Z

Dwoods44 "flipped" to be crusaders in the cause to reveal truth instead of maintaining deception? If yes, that would be fantastic no doubt! It has happened before. People first are duped, and then come over to "our" cause: "the freedom of the human race from itself!"

Dwoods44 · 2022-12-15T16:48:06Z

TBoris We have examples of people believing the narrative, like McCullough, who now realizes it is a genocide agenda.

TBoris · 2022-12-15T18:14:34Z

Dwoods44 How about TMcCulloch v. Maryland (1819)

In the landmark Supreme Court case McCulloch v. Maryland , Chief Justice John Marshall handed down one of his most important decisions regarding the expansion of Federal power. This case involved the power of Congress to charter a bank, which sparked the even broader issue of the division of powers between state and the Federal Government.

This act (far in advance of the setup of the Federal Reserve in 1913), provided for the government to setup "private" banks by virtue of losing the case...

If we(you and i) fly back to 1819, how would "we" be able to overturn the case? To use Thomas Jeffersons words " the remedy is to set them right as to facts". Makes me ponder...

TBoris · 2022-12-15T18:24:36Z

TBoris Forgot the link: It is in the National Archives: [Link]
Wonder if a government can be retried for the same crime? Or should that only be reserved for us carbon foot prints?

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-15T18:32:37Z

TBoris - that is a good link and I'll read it and thanks, but it begs the question were any later decisions made that altered the conclusions and/or changed precedent with respect to this case from 1819 because you can't deny that was a long time ago and the history of banking was complicated and of course turned upside down in 1913.

Oh, now after having read it, seems it paved the path for more Federal authority. What a shame.

You want my opinion, and that of other founders rolling in their graves just now, federal authority has gone over the top. It is fraudulent.

Ken

TBoris · 2022-12-15T19:33:25Z

Buffalo_Ken So what if(in the US) one just filed suit for the same reason as Culloch? We could each file[for the sake of our state i.e. Maryland in this case] different suits templated off of "TMcCulloch v. Maryland" and dare say that it is illegal for the government to charter a private central bank? If "we" win the case, the US(or any country or our 50 states in the US) gets its sovereignty back? Also see the case... We can also demand: "In 1818 the State of Maryland approved legislation to impose taxes on the Second National Bank chartered by Congress"...

Ask for a tax refund to the people(our state coffers if living in the US) from the Federal Reserve banking system(assuming US jurisdiction)!

Do we have any hot shot lawyers that the Scott editors know about?

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-15T19:40:41Z

TBoris - the question comes down to what court of law any of this could be decided within. My position is the founders never intended such a bloviated and wasteful and incompetent and burdening federal gubment in the first place - they just wanted to support each other, but not some sort of federal hegemony. For the ones came out of Virginia, I feel them close, they wanted the opposite of federal authority.

But, I put forth a coup occurred in 1913, and if one still abides by the Constitution, there are measure within for remedy.

I've cited the 14th Amendment in this regard I think....the one created after the Civil War....a war one must wonder whether it would have ever occurred has the 1819 decision not been made in the first place, but history is done and over with and what matters is the future.

TBoris · 2022-12-15T19:58:47Z

Buffalo_Ken Right..So for the future (and now) we should as "states" of the US file suit like "Maryland(or insert your state)" vs. "Northern District of New York" (or what ever Fed district you reside https://www.federalreserveeducation.org/about-the-fed/federal-reserve-districts/)? Basically say your "Fed"(the District Court) does not have the authority blah blah blah or owes back money to the people blah blah blah from ???

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-15T20:04:01Z

TBoris - my angle legally for what it is worth because I give no heed lately to courts of law proper is that the 14th Amendment, let me repeat myself says as follows:

~

Section 4

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

So, any debts incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion, and does a "coup" not fall under that, is null and void for the citizens. I put forth, in 1913, a Central Banker coup occurred, and therefore, the debt is theirs and not upon the citizens got no control over that private enterprise that committed a coup and have been causing harm endless for over a century now.

[Link]

VooDoo6 · 2022-12-15T22:54:17Z

Musk and Carlson appear to be doing a good thing by revealing some of the corruption and criminal actions of critter and the government to manipulate the people.

The question is are they simply controlling the narrative, controlling what is revealed or the Framing of the revelation? I don't know. If they reveal that the plandemic genocide and murder of the population leading to a totalitarian technocracy and NAZI eugenics is what is occurring, we know they have gone the distance.

Both.

Who is Tucker Carlson [Link]
I don’t believe in Elon Musk [Link]

scrutinizer · 2022-12-15T14:07:12Z

I'VE HAD ENOUGH MUSK/TWATTER NEWS.

And tucker is controlled opposition like pretty much all of mainstream "opposition".

What do you think twatter is now? It's like pretending anything would be different under Drumpf, I mean trump.

Granted, I'd rather have anyone in the world as fake leader than the Undead white trash Biden.

Artex · 2022-12-15T14:56:06Z

scrutinizer

Granted, I'd rather have anyone in the world as fake leader than the Undead white trash Biden.

Even Kamala Harris?

Artex · 2022-12-15T14:44:48Z

Jack Dorsey is also calling for Elon to release all of it, stating transparency is what he wanted most and only gave up on in 2020 when it he realized he had to leave the company. He also pledged $1mn/yr to the Signal app which as far as I know is still giving the feds the finger when they ask for data and backdoors.

I have watched a number of interviews with Jack Dorsey, and when he went on Joe Rogan with Vijaye Gadde, I at the time had the distinct impression he was no longer in charge of Twitter and knew it. In many interviews he seems to have the body language of someone under duress. So when I read his blog post about the current shitstorm last night, I have once again become genuinely hopeful for the future. He said some "dangerous" things in his post (in the current zeitgeist, anyway) and it's well worth the read. [Link] I share his dream of a future where no government anywhere can remove anything someone posts on social media.

ReRan · 2022-12-15T14:55:26Z

Artex Interesting. Thanks.

Artex · 2022-12-15T15:00:38Z

ReRan I'm coming to the conclusion that when Musk talks about free speech absolutism, he isn't just talking about the US, but everywhere. These platforms are worthless to civilization if speech is controlled by TPTB. There's an opportunity to change civilization and put on blast (as the kids say) all these "leaders" and corporations that see us as no more than useless eaters and slave labor. And we are slaves when one's income is several orders of magnitude smaller than the cabal of CEOs and oligarchs that stamp our paychecks. That wage gap represents slavery with more steps.

Demore · 2022-12-15T16:52:15Z

Artex Thumbs up and thank you.

VooDoo6 · 2022-12-15T15:06:39Z

I think we are seeing a small part of the collusion & corruption reveal itself. Not a fan of Jack Dorsey or Elon Musk. They both play their roles in all of this. Dorsey coincidentally coming clean after he hade his 4+ Billion. The sooner the youth/younger ones figure it out the better off we all will be. Most social media for me is a wafwot. I dislike the game & the player b/c of all the fakes & woo-fakery. I don’t find social media cult psychosis funny or amusing in the least.

Artex · 2022-12-15T15:35:14Z

VooDoo6 I have the same concerns as you, but I am trying to be an open-minded skeptic when it comes to Musk and Dorsey. Honestly, I think Musk's biggest strike against him is the quote "We will coup whoever we want" (which he later deleted). You and I are both familiar with vaporware that salespeople like to promise, and that's basically the worst criticism people who are being honest about Musk have - he's a hype man that doesn't always deliver. But I consider what he already has.

As for Dorsey, I stated in an earlier post that the interviews I've watched with him made him look like he was under duress from or a hostage to the Twitter board. He's made poor choices, but in a soulless publicly traded corporation, sometimes you only get the chance to make the least worst decision - though he also admits that's not always what he did.

Anyway, I have reserved optimism and open-minded skepticism for how this could play out, but I also don't underestimate the 4th estate's and deep state's desire and ability to tighten their grip and burn the whole thing down.

VooDoo6 · 2022-12-15T22:01:54Z

VooDoo6 I have the same concerns as you, but I am trying to be an open-minded skeptic when it comes to Musk and Dorsey. Honestly, I think Musk's biggest strike against him is the quote "We will coup whoever we want" (which he later deleted). You and I are both familiar with vaporware that salespeople like to promise, and that's basically the worst criticism people who are being honest about Musk have - he's a hype man that doesn't always deliver. But I consider what he already has.

As for Dorsey, I stated in an earlier post that the interviews I've watched with him made him look like he was under duress from or a hostage to the Twitter board. He's made poor choices, but in a soulless publicly traded corporation, sometimes you only get the chance to make the least worst decision - though he also admits that's not always what he did.

Anyway, I have reserved optimism and open-minded skepticism for how this could play out, but I also don't underestimate the 4th estate's and deep state's desire and ability to tighten their grip and burn the whole thing down.

Solid copy.

Reserved optimism and open-minded skepticism is about as articulately stated mindset & safe thinking as one can be & while maintaining a degree of sanity.

I only used SM to share information/knowledge with real deal people & was shadow banned do to my background & knowledge content I shared.

Imagine that a method of digital mutilation of one’s tongue for speaking truth. The “Gatekeepers” on Twitter/Farcebook are very easy to see & locate. Almost like a mental entrainment state of consciousness b/c of limited ability to share material & knowledge. I left IC field b/c I figured it out - cracked some occluded cyphers in the early 2000’s.

VooDoo6 · 2022-12-16T16:35:11Z

VooDoo6 I have the same concerns as you, but I am trying to be an open-minded skeptic when it comes to Musk and Dorsey. Honestly, I think Musk's biggest strike against him is the quote "We will coup whoever we want" (which he later deleted). You and I are both familiar with vaporware that salespeople like to promise, and that's basically the worst criticism people who are being honest about Musk have - he's a hype man that doesn't always deliver. But I consider what he already has.

As for Dorsey, I stated in an earlier post that the interviews I've watched with him made him look like he was under duress from or a hostage to the Twitter board. He's made poor choices, but in a soulless publicly traded corporation, sometimes you only get the chance to make the least worst decision - though he also admits that's not always what he did.

Anyway, I have reserved optimism and open-minded skepticism for how this could play out, but I also don't underestimate the 4th estate's and deep state's desire and ability to tighten their grip and burn the whole thing down.

Looks like more revelations of truth are coming forth still.

So much for “Best practices” 🤣😂🤨hyperbole eh…. As you & I both know corporations have no soul / morality and your comment earlier regarding them is spot on.

If you took fraud out of the American economy there’d be nothing left.

FTX/Alameda Research/BlackRock are just another prime examples. BlackRock is most likely too big to fail & directly tied into the whole octopus’s regenerative apparatus.

Documents Uncover Secret Twitter Portal US Government Used To Censor COVID-19 Content [Link]

Ragnar · 2022-12-15T15:46:08Z

To me it seems that Tucker is controlled opposition. The "allowed" voice against their bizarro narrative. Not that he's wrong in what he says. Just that it will never cross certain lines, certain topics

TBoris · 2022-12-15T15:48:35Z

Ragnar Roger that!

VooDoo6 · 2022-12-15T22:50:01Z

To me it seems that Tucker is controlled opposition. The "allowed" voice against their bizarro narrative. Not that he's wrong in what he says. Just that it will never cross certain lines, certain topics

Correct it’s all rigged. Who is Tucker Carlson - [Link]

TBoris · 2022-12-15T23:01:04Z

VooDoo6 Miles Mathis is hard to ignore. The gravity of his facts is similar to the Thomas Jefferson statement: [Link]
"The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive . If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. "

The more Elon Musk is made out to be a hero ("The part which is wrong will be discontented") the more it belies the " importance of the facts they misconceive" that Miles Mathis brings forth. I am discussing that right now with Buffalo_Ken in the last comments on this post regarding Old Hickory and the stains on his name...

TBoris · 2022-12-15T23:03:29Z

TBoris Meant to say "The more Tucker"..."is made out to be a hero"... but it is true regardless(I think).

VooDoo6 · 2022-12-15T23:11:06Z

VooDoo6 Miles Mathis is hard to ignore. The gravity of his facts is similar to the Thomas Jefferson statement: [Link]
"The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive . If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. "

The more Elon Musk is made out to be a hero ("The part which is wrong will be discontented") the more it belies the " importance of the facts they misconceive" that Miles Mathis brings forth. I am discussing that right now with Buffalo_Ken in the last comments on this post regarding Old Hickory and the stains on his name...

Yes agree. I’m in complete awareness regarding him. Miles has some good stuff for sure & sometimes he misses the mark. Kudos to him as at least he’s an independent thinker. I read each piece for some other kernels/clusters/nuggets/facts etc. he presents. Sometimes one fact will be a key to unlock or unravel the Gordian knot or expose other pieces to the puzzle. At least he lays it on the line & speaks his mind for himself. I may not always agree but AO respect him for his efforts & knowledge.

ReRan · 2022-12-15T18:05:23Z

This censoring has done a lot of harm. Is it too late to reverse it?

Buffalo_Ken ·

ReRan - No.

· 2022-12-15T18:14:38Z

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-15T18:15:27Z

ReRan - but the longer the lies continue, the deeper in the maze the liars find themselves, and their chances of survival diminish day by day. If they don't stop telling lies obvious and harmful, they only increase the likelihood of their own individual demise swift....and you must know, when some curves go exponential things happen so quick....like in the blink of an eye or half a heart beat or even less.

The only way out of the maze is to stop telling lies, but you and I both know, the probability of that from the perpetuators doubled down one time too many is mighty slim....so that means one thing.

Either we kill them, or we all die - both us and them.

My advice to them is to stop telling lies.

Ken

ReRan · 2022-12-15T22:51:21Z

Buffalo_Ken Thanks. And Merry Christmas!

TBoris · 2022-12-15T23:16:55Z

Buffalo_Ken "Either we kill them, or we all die - both us and them"...That sounds like this situation: [Link] Unfortunately, Mace wasn't strong enough.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-16T16:13:29Z

TBoris - I watched the video, the one with the "force" I reckon got blown away by the one on the precipice sick with power (after so many got stabbed dead) and meanwhile the newest newest youngest so innocent supposedly one observed......now you got to figure, the fella got blown off the ledge with glass broken previous must have a soft landing in his repertoire unless maybe he was too tired through over exertion......the guy on the edge, sick no doubt - the "evil" mother effer - if I'd been the young fella I'd stabbed his ass outright or pushed him off as well and then I would truly depart the scene. But, this is only because I have no faith in the courts these days - the regular courts of law - they are compromised.

codis · 2022-12-15T18:10:40Z

It is frightening when more and more of your crazy conspiracy theories turn out to be true

As someone once said, paranoia means having all the facts ...

TBoris · 2022-12-15T23:23:43Z

codis "Just Because You're Paranoid Doesn't Mean They Aren't After You"...Can't remember a source but sounds right to me.

Artex · 2022-12-16T14:16:47Z

TBoris Nirvana - Territorial Pissings, verse 3 (where I first heard it https://youtu.be/9yNPgx0swCM), which came from Catch 22 by Joseph Heller [Link]

TBoris · 2022-12-16T14:31:00Z

Artex Thanks!

nedlud · 2022-12-15T18:17:33Z

HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY

I remember when I was a little kid, there was this cartoon character on tv named Mighty Mouse. He had super powers and was always saying he was 'coming to save the day'...

Or maybe that was some other cartoon character on tv that always said that.

There was Captain Kangaroo, maybe he was in charge. Or maybe the Lone Ranger.

I dunno, I don't remember for sure, though I'm pretty sure it was Mighty Mouse. Heck, I was like 4 years old...

Anyway, I think Elon Musk is like Mighty Mouse (or Captain Kangaroo or the Lone Ranger) except that he doesn't have super powers and a tv show (for toddlers), but he does have Twitter and a lot of funny phoney money, which he took and stole and swindled, which is about the same thing (as super power) and allows him to fight crime, most effectively.

So, Elon is certain to 'save the day', unless some other outstanding fictional hero comes along and does the same thing. Or at least says he is.

All is swell.

Have a nice day.

We're saved!

ned,

out

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-15T18:44:32Z

nedlud - Elon might know about communications, but twitter is toast and tsla is not doing well, but the 2 are not unrelated.

Elon will be fine if he gets his house in order, and who needs twitter anyhow, but while the topic is HOT

why not become transparent and let all of us judge what is correct and proper?

Nobody is the Grand Editor and if you think you are....that is the

beginning of the end.

Last Grand Editor I ran into, lost it all when the editor claimed godly communication and divinization....as if a man could talk to God and one man was the channel.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-15T19:37:33Z

Buffalo_Ken - so, if there is anybody out there infallible or think they are or thinks they have a claim as such, please introduce yourself and let me prove you wrong. I got no claim to it, I apologize when I think I've made a mistake, and I just doubt the infallibility of any man or women for heaven's sake. So, we all make mistakes, but together we are better and there truly is no grand editor besides somebody thinking they might be in their own imagination and all evidence collected proves they are wrong.

TBoris · 2022-12-15T19:42:08Z

Buffalo_Ken

so, if there is anybody out there infallible or think they are or thinks they have a claim as such, please introduce yourself and let me prove you wrong. I got no claim to it, I apologize when I think I've made a mistake, and I just doubt the infallibility of any man or women for heaven's sake. So, we all make mistakes, but together we are better and there truly is no grand editor besides somebody thinking they might be in their own imagination and all evidence collected proves they are wrong.

My god man, that is the best word salad of the day!

TBoris · 2022-12-15T19:42:38Z

TBoris Not to say that it says nothing. Far from it.

TBoris · 2022-12-15T19:45:04Z

TBoris It is some of the best of: "being all alone on the cross that one bears".

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-15T19:55:56Z

TBoris - that word, on another post I was typing.....that word - "infallible", like the infallible word of God coming out the mouth of the Pope.....that was the word my brain would not release even though I knew that word was there, I just could not get it to come out of my mind, into my fingers to be typed.

I don't know about you, but I'm sick of editors in general.....I'm sick of them, tired of them, and one lie too many is one lie too much.

I think in the decision made in 1819, and that is not easy reading, that there were excuses contrived to extend the meaning of the written word in the Constitution, and I suppose once they started chipping away at it, then it was all downhill from there. In my view, perhaps the defining moment of a country gone wrong was the "Indian Removal Act" of 1830......that set some things in place and now we are here today to answer for decisions wrong.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-15T19:57:09Z

TBoris - Here is a link, but I read about it first in a hard copy book that I know I've got around here somewhere:

[Link] - Indian Removal Act, Library of Congress

TBoris · 2022-12-15T20:41:15Z

Buffalo_Ken Martin Van Buren was president over the worst of the atrocities. Also one should mind what Andrew Jackson actually said of the act "“puts an end to all collision between the authorities of the General and State governments on account of the Indians.”

The implementation by his 1830 act was to cease all the activity about stealing Indians land on account of "General" literally the generals to the US Army and the government of the US itself". That is the opposite of what they push on the internet because of one simple reason...

Old Hickory was for everyone of us (including the Indians) [Link] and he is the only one who killed the bank... Go back to you tube(sorry!) and review: "The Money Masters - Full Length" [Link] for the real legacy of President Andrew Jackson. Venerate his name my friend not denigrate.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-15T20:47:23Z

TBoris - sorry, but I disagree. Jackson made a mistake when he signed this act into law and it was a betrayal of his kin - the folks he grew up with. I know in a way because I was there in Tennessee where he grew up with the Cherokee. I've been there in person. Moreover, at his inauguration the " People " (the common-folk) supposedly stormed the house once called white and Jackson resulted in the DNC we have today, so he can shove it up his donkey ass regardless to what he supposed accomplished in New Orleans in 1812.

The DNC, originated with Jackson is the cause of so many troubles today, and no doubt, being he signed this Act of ignominy.

Better ideas were out there at the time but jackson was a stubborn ass, and so now the DNC suffers fate deserved. The sooner the better.

So please, don't try to weasel out of it and give the benefit to Jackson - he was a jerk through and through, and while I support some of his decisions regarding banks, he treated the Native Americans, his own kin basically, with contempt and I have no respect for that and there are always consequences and now tis time for the consequences to come home to roost.

Good by DNC - your time is over.

TBoris · 2022-12-15T21:11:39Z

Buffalo_Ken Lets say Andrew Jackson was an ass and a bigot. After all(to the point) we learned that Bobby Kennedy was personally responsible for "Bombshell: Sixty Years After Her Death, New Evidence Suggests Marilyn Monroe Was Murdered and LAPD Covered Up Murder" - covert magazine : [Link]
We have to look at what our leaders did right and how they did it, not "who" they were as a human beings (to be human is to error so forgive out of ignorance) . We should have learned that after we found out that mom and granny was Santa Clause - I would think(I was late maybe 16-17).

So your distain[on the legacy of Andrew Jackson] I will accept upon myself. I will be be that bigot and scoundrel you profess against. Throw all his slime on my feet. I will take it upon Boris enough's name.

Now let me hear what you think about him killing the bank?

Piece,

Boris

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-16T13:10:10Z

TBoris - nobody is perfect, but Jackson's mistake with respect to the Indian Removal Act (which was opposed by many and controversial at the time and barely passed as a bill) is his legacy and his alone in my mind and nobody else can claim that. His actions opposing the banksters were laudable, but he set the tone for the country with his betrayal of Native Americans.

Happy Solstice to you.

Ken

Artex · 2022-12-16T14:18:33Z

nedlud I can't help but think of Andy Kaufman when I read that line these days. [Link] and Jim Carey's recreation [Link]

TBoris · 2022-12-16T14:19:53Z

Buffalo_Ken Sir, with all due respect ...A search on Andrew Jackson is so front loaded with venom, that one knows it must be false, especially in the conclusions that it tries to make one believe (i.e. that Andrew Jackson was a monster, and anything he did isn't worth looking at - "the disgust/repulsion propaganda technique"). Any success against the banking interests is the #1 thing to suppress on the internet today(and long before that) . So of course Jackson's name has to be dragged through mud(a "trail of tears" for him and his legacy) to erase that success. Here are some links to fight back against that false assertion:

The University of Alabama Institutional Repository: [Link]
Quora: [Link]
EdSITEment: "Lesson 3: The 1828 Campaign of Andrew Jackson: Territorial Expansion and the Shift of Power" [Link] <== Added this link for the map of the US in 1828.

The reason I don't back down on this, is the same that Andrew Jackson would not yield. One can disagree(with that) and believe all the heaps of propaganda against, but what it hides in truth (to me) is far more valuable.

Peace and Happy Solstice to you as well (5 days remain talking numbers!),

Boris enough I hope!

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-16T14:22:26Z

TBoris - I never said he was a monster. I said he betrayed his kin and I have no respect for that.

The time of the DNC is over - coming to, 2, two, too, tu a complete end and being Jackson forms the origin, it comes as no surprise he signed the act of ignominy.

You get what you give I reckon even if sometimes it takes a few generations.

Ken

ps - peace is spelled with an "e" and an "a" in that order...

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-16T14:24:44Z

TBoris - if you are in conflict with somebody refuses to back down, then the scale of weaponry needs to rise equivalent.

Or better yet, respond in a manner undeniable and irrefutable.

With conviction of course.

A stubborn bully is the worst, but the most fun to kill.

I am stubborn, I can be a bully according to some, but I am NOT a stubborn bully pushing my ideas upon others. Cause if I was, I would not be inwit, and being I sense I'm inwit, I've concluded I'm not a stubborn bully - still.....I like to kill ones who are - metaphorically of course.

BK

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-16T14:31:45Z

nedlud I can't help but think of Andy Kaufman when I read that line these days. [Link] and Jim Carey's recreation [Link]

Artex

TBoris · 2022-12-16T14:55:27Z

Buffalo_Ken It is about ideas and not conflict for conflicts sake(I think). Here is another one:

The DNC was taken over by the Clinton's [Link] not Jackson (at the onset of the party creation). Jackson was the guy who wanted the common man (who was not a big property owner with banker ties) to have a vote. That was why he was so popular.

"I said he betrayed his kin and I have no respect for that"

How so? Provide your support for that disrespect.

Kind Regards (peace), <=== terrible speller I admit that.

Boris obviously not enough!

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-16T15:10:05Z

TBoris - oooh....now you have taken the conversation into present time days, and that is something I suspect we can share common ground upon.

As for the Clinton's, the pull of ignominy is strong.

Bullies get sucked down.

Happy Solstice Boris and best to you individually....

as for the Clinton's the harm caused is evident.

My Christmas wish is that the punishment is just, and being I believe justice must be served, I have faith that it will be and I hope it happens sooner rather than later because 2023 is going to be better, and if the Clinton's get justice that will be step #1 ideal.

Because we all should know - you get what you give.

Ken

codis · 2022-12-16T15:56:07Z

nedlud One of your rare prosaic postings ...

I think I also remember something like Mighty Mouse.

Heck, I was like 4 years old...

Heck, me too. I barely remember Arthur the Angel[Link] the mole [Link] or Lolek and Bolek [Link]

Anyway, I think Elon Musk is like Mighty Mouse (or Captain Kangaroo or the Lone Ranger) ...

I concur in so far that I see Elon as an artificial figure like Mighty Mouse (or Arthur the Angel), sent in by <somebody>, with a specific task.

Which is "saving the day" for that <somebody>.

I like watching the near death testimonies on [Link] and on:[Link]

bbrebozo

I can see this coming soon to a country near you. Anyone who does not comply will be accused of violating someone else's rights.

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Play in the dirt you're gonna get dirty. Quit whining and take your well-deserved lumps. LOL

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Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky [Link]

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Ah, the old game of who's dick is bigger. Poth parties came out of the pool, looked down and said, let's do this later.

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