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MSNBC piece claims 'Health & Fitness' is new gateway drug to the far-right

Paul Joseph Watson
Summit News
Fri, 25 Mar 2022 17:51 UTC

Bemoans how "solidarity, heroism, and brotherhood" are linked with physical training.

MSNBC published an article claiming that shadowy people on the Telegram messenger service are recruiting far-right acolytes by talking about health and fitness.

Yes, really.

Apparently, health and fitness is the new gateway drug to the far-right.

An article headlined 'Pandemic fitness trends have gone extreme — literally' asserts that online fascist gym bros are colonizing mixed "martial arts (MMA) and combat sports spaces" as some kind of secret plot to amplify "neo-Nazi and white supremacist extremist ideologies."

"Physical fitness has always been central to the far right," writes Cynthia Miller-Idriss, who previously wrote articles smearing the Canadian trucker protesters as far-right extremists.

Being into "the male body, training, masculinity, testosterone, strength and competition" and embracing "messaging around solidarity, heroism, and brotherhood" is apparently a bad thing and a precursor to racial violence.

The columnist claims that people who link physical training and fitness with "promoting the concept that physical warriors are needed to create the strength and dominance to defend one's people from a perceived enemy" are creating cadres of white supremacist radicals.

No concrete examples of any of what is claimed in the article are presented.

Respondents reacted by slamming MSNBC for stirring up more harmful divisiveness.

"Ok Guys now you've done it. Now you've literally politicized something which should have been left alone. Good job guys you morons," commented one.

"Wtf, i did 10 pushups and now there's a swastika tattoo on my shoulder," joked another.

"I mean at this point you just make being far right sound healthy and cool," remarked another.

Comment: That last comment hits the nail on the head. If physical health and exercise are now correlated with right-wing ideology, who wouldn't want to be right-wing? And what does that make left-wing?

Reader Comments

Avel T · 2022-03-26T12:27:56Z

Like Muslims? [Link]

In this video Abu Usamah talks about why every muslim needs to workout, lift weights and should also learn martial arts or boxing. Islamophobia is increasing day by day hence you need to know how to defend yourself and your family. Being strong & fit will help you defend your family & your womenfolk. Women are most likley to be targeted so they need to workout too & it's also the man's responsibility to protect them & make sure they safe. Working out also cures laziness, laziness is one of the characteristics of the hypocrites. They eat alot and are very lazy in terms of prayer and doing good deeds. So get a gym membership and work your ass off!

azigzagidiot · 2022-03-26T15:40:52Z

Avel T No, didn't you get the memo?

Mrs. Miller- Idriss is now to help re-direct state apparatus to focus more on Americans. Focus on those others is sort of passe. One with her experience should have no qualms about such a re-direct? American University professor... [Link]
She has a jawline that would make Curse_of_Canaan speculate... I speculate that in utero testosterone exposure is important.

Dwoods44 · 2022-03-26T12:46:05Z

In trying to understand propaganda and social engineering, we need to be aware of words and phrases and what meaning and context is attached to it. One aspect in the narrative is the demonization of the "far right" as "domestic terrorists". Demonization is common in war propaganda, as we called Germans "Krauts", etc. The nature of demonization is to treat the demonized as an animal, as something beneath you. This evokes animal impulses in the demonizing individual to treat the demonized violently. This is the divide and conquer strategy.

Baybars · 2022-03-26T16:21:58Z

Dwoods44 Animal impulses?

Do you mean the; " I want to do it like they do it on the Discovery channel", impulses?

Or do you mean the; "I want to kick the crap out of the next creep that tells me I have too much 'toxic masculinity" impulses?

azigzagidiot · 2022-03-26T16:54:49Z

Baybars Demonized/dehumanized.

"From dehumanization to arms production..."

How's about boxing aiming to knock some sense in? Once you've stomped a mudhole it may be a long walk to dry.

Baybars · 2022-03-26T16:58:13Z

azigzagidiot Dehumanized. Yes. That is most likely the goal of her twisted thoughts and words.

Speaking of twisted; I love ZigZag papers!

Dwoods44 · 2022-03-27T13:02:33Z

Baybars There was the Stanford study of a prison scenario, I forgot the name, but there were prisoners and guards. The prisoners played the role and the guards played the role. They had to stop the study because the guards became ruthless and treated the prisoners like animals.

endescent · 2022-03-27T13:58:38Z

azigzagidiot “From dehumanization to arms production, we hasten this nation towards its destruction, power is power the law of the land, those living for death, will die by their own hands, life’s no ordeal, if you come to terms, reject the system, dictating the norms…”

azigzagidiot · 2022-03-27T19:32:31Z

Baybars Yeh man

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wonder how far right one is considered now to smoke and do training. Probably on a list somewhere.. Did you read the ms article? I'm thinking I'm going to read it

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Dwoods44 Zimbardo? I found prisonexp .org exists.

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endescent Hey, thanks. "...for the benefit of the nation, or its destruction?"

Dwoods44 · 2022-03-27T20:12:10Z

azigzagidiot Thanks. Yes it is at prisonexp.org or look of Stanford prison experiment. I thought it had another name too. In a sense, it shows what happens when you wear a mask, in this case an identity, of prisoner or guard. You now have anonymity, and you play the role of your mask.

Baybars · 2022-03-27T20:33:21Z

Dwoods44 I know of that study. Many carried out over the years, some with students in the positions of prisoner and punisher. Some done with electrical shocks to gauge the level of empathy.

Baybars · 2022-03-27T20:37:15Z

azigzagidiot The article about how the Muslim children have benefitted from the empathy of a trans teacher? Yes and it is an interesting perspective; both the Muslim children and the trans teacher both understand 'difference' and in some cases 'exclusion'.

This differs in my opinion from having trans training and the aggrandization of multiple sexual identities in a junior classroom setting.

ReRan · 2022-03-26T13:46:36Z

Physical fitness has always been central to the far right," writes Cynthia Miller-Idriss, who previously wrote articles smearing the Canadian trucker protesters as far-right extremists.

I wonder who the target audience is? Who would actually read a piece like this? Most of the sheeple only read headlines, from what I've seen. More division, that's all this is.

bj0311 · 2022-03-26T13:47:54Z

It is not fitness when you spend hours in the gym trying to make yourself look like some airbrushed Hollywood superhero it is insecurity and/or other forms of mental illness. If you are a real man by all means take care of yourself and keep fit but you need far less than an hour a day to do this.

balboa schwartz · 2022-03-26T15:22:12Z

bj0311 I'm so glad a leftist psycho-babbling loon has explained that staying fit and healthy is a road to extremism. I've been wondering all these decades that I've stayed healthy and fit if I wasn't going down that road......

Baybars · 2022-03-26T16:23:05Z

balboa schwartz Ya, you are too far gone now. Sorry

Nathan Carney · 2022-03-26T16:59:38Z

balboa schwartz I remember when my caretakers started getting into fitness because they were getting older.

And I just thought, why in the world would someone want to go into a building, run around some some idiotic track or a treadmill to nowhere, and lift a bunch of barbells after work.

Why not go outside, dance under the trees, hike in nature, play tag, get in a canoe.

I don't necessarily feel that way now but working out sometimes separates from real adventure.

Whomever wrote this article took too much drugs--sink-holes are not rabbit holes.

azigzagidiot · 2022-03-28T01:06:46Z

bj0311 (stops to think before saying something stupid, then proceeds)

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Cpt. Joe DGAF,

Reporting for duty, Sir! I'd previously metioned to you some alliterative thing. Another system that reduces to same alliterative form was formulated by Maj. Gen. Dr. Mr. Rippetoe VXth, PhD (Player-hatin',smoker-berating Diatribe-diplomate-extraordinaire), Esq.; a.k.a. Gen. G.O.M.A.D..

To perform requires a power rack. Reports indicate distractions include: aspiring Hollywood superheros, other, loosely-affiliated Crossfit types ("hours on the bars, Brah! your workout is my warm-up, Brah!", + chicks they give SARMs...), and other, sex-related distractions. Starting strength-oriented gyms require reconnoitering and of course, we always expect attack in public. Potential upsides remain uge!

Regards,

Cpt. Zouave

Winston Smith · 2022-03-26T14:15:49Z

Testosterone = Fascism........ LOL!!!!!

Bezel Bub · 2022-03-26T14:37:41Z

I'm still not convinced this is not an Onion or Babylon Bee story...

JTF Truth · 2022-03-26T14:44:17Z

[Link] Puff piece.

GCO · 2022-03-26T16:02:35Z

"'Health & Fitness' is new gateway drug to the far-right"

I been saying this for almost 10 years now, finally someone agrees.

azigzagidiot · 2022-03-26T16:26:45Z

GCO Mens/Anima sana in corpore sano apparently makes current far-leftism unconscionable.

GCO · 2022-03-26T16:19:14Z

We need articles that go even further. What about:

Fit men + man-spreading....?

Fit men + man-splaining...?

What could these combinations potentially lead to! More effort could certainly go into warning everyone.

Baybars · 2022-03-26T16:37:16Z

Wow that person (woman?) is a scary piece of work but this sort of crap is to be expected from her type and her associations. What sort of trauma has she been through to hold these thoughts?

If not trauma, then how could this line of thought possibly benefit her?

Who else does this attack on fitness (mostly male) benefit?

What scares me is that she does have an audience that eats this stuff up. There are people out there (out of shape people) who are going to now try to protest the nearest gymnasium or fight club.... LOL! I want video of the counter protest!

What amazes me is that she is married, to a guy as far as I know. He can't be much of a guy if she is spouting anti-fitness (anti-male) thoughts like this. So my take-away from this article is that she is a freak, married to a wimp and I pity their children.

azigzagidiot · 2022-03-27T23:13:20Z

Baybars In the interests of fairness, I now think this Summit News counter-article here partly mischaracterizes what Miller-Idriss wrote. First, her's is an opinion piece. Her article reads to me as a warning against newer, on-line grooming via Telegram chats. She links to a Guardian article in her article, and said article mentions the "research" done by an investigator on far-right groups and their recruiting.

The linked Guardian article brings up the group "Hope Not Hate" (an idiotically formed name) associated with researcher Patrik Hermansson. Hermansson apparently has done an undercover-type investigation of far-right groups recruiting in the U.K.. Particular mention in the aforementioned Guardian article is made of the White Stag Athletic Club (WSAC). Here's a 2017 article (which I have not read) discussing earlier investigations by Hermansson [Link] and declaring the launch of "Hope not Hate" in America...

Miller-Idriss's article em/debosses with opinions on masculinity, saying for example,

Fitness of course is a staple and a hobby for many people, for whom it is enjoyable and rewarding for brain health and overall well-being. Physical fitness channels dopamine, adrenalin and serotonin in ways that literally feel good. Intertwining those feelings with hateful and dehumanizing ideas, while promoting the concept that physical warriors are needed to create the strength and dominance to defend one’s people from a perceived enemy, makes for a dangerous and powerful cocktail of radicalization.

She earlier metions the Rise Above Movement (RAM), which like the WSAC incorporates fight club or MMA-type activities. The broader picture should just be raising awareness of dangers of baited recruiting on-line, IMO. Miller-Idriss's criticisms are embellishment beyond that, but it's her opinion, and in my opinion it is a mischaracterization by Joseph Paul Watson here to equate "Health & Fitness" with what are particulars of the groups investigated, and a disservice to minimize potential danger to persons unaware of these types of ploys.

That said, JPW also gives some even keel treatment here, and Miller-Idriss as quoted above speaks on fitness as such, and also lays out some facts and makes connections -- even making mention of persona verboten -- that may make the article worth reading. I believe Rowan Cocoan would approve, lol!!

More research needed to figure if Patrik Hermansson has an axe to grind. Obviously not Jack "The Joker" Hermansson we're talking about here...

codis · 2022-03-26T17:39:01Z

MSNBC piece claims 'Health & Fitness' is new gateway drug to the far-right

Sure.

Self-responsibility and taking care of oneself is the anti-thesis of leftist externalization and obedient groupthink.

So, it must be far-right, or not ?

Baybars · 2022-03-26T20:59:14Z

codis That is a very concise summation. Given your observations, I am pleased to be considered 'far-right' if the alternative is only "leftist externalization and groupthink."

Yupo · 2022-03-27T01:53:54Z

Left me scratching my head. I've always found that hyper-fit, super groomed gym rats had a high propensity for gayness, and that gayness has a strong correlation with leaning to the Left. When I say hyper-fit, I mean an obsession with perfection in the buff. Normally, people do care about their health and mostly are happy how they look in clothes, since they wear clothes most of the time.

Baybars · 2022-03-27T03:05:50Z

Yupo Depends on the age group, but I understand. I'm trying to imagine the Terminator as gay, but it's not working for me.

codis · 2022-03-27T07:32:14Z

Yupo Might be correct, I haven't seem a gym from the inside yet ...

While I try to exercise, stay fit and eat healthy, I do so for me and my family, and not for socialising or striking up affairs.

Animanarchy · 2022-03-27T13:05:40Z

Baybars Apparently Arnold was actually in some gay porn giving blowjobs. Alex Jones during a broadcast said he'd seen it for himself. I think the purpose of the video(s) might have been to compromise Arnold so he can be a more controllable NWO shill.

JTF Truth · 2022-03-27T16:07:59Z

Baybars LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Nathan Carney · 2022-03-27T19:12:54Z

Most paramilitary units committing war crimes have all manner of obsessive perversions it seems.

Baybars · 2022-03-27T20:39:17Z

Animanarchy The NWO people did a great job of it.

Nathan Carney · 2022-03-27T20:48:13Z

Baybars some of the war crimes shown by Ukie soldiers towards Russian prisoners of war on South Front.

Contrast this with the humanitarian aspect of Russias Operation and the respect given to Ukrainian soldiers (pow);

It tells one all that is needed to know--unless it's Azov, though generally war crimes don't happen by DNR and RFMiltary.

For ffs did you see the white phosphorus shelling on civilians in Donbass recently.

They found a lot of well, dildos, among the Azov in Mariopul.

I presume that's the Nato training.

Yupo · 2022-03-27T21:15:31Z

Baybars This about sums up my experience around the subject: [Link]

azigzagidiot · 2022-03-27T23:21:03Z

Yupo well, i like the entertainment you brought intra here!!

azigzagidiot · 2022-03-27T23:37:23Z

Nathan Carney [...]

They found a lot [...] dildos, among the Azov in Mariopul.

[...]

I know you're not using that term as a euphemism here, because I've seen the SoTT article with a video link of one such beating some Roma women... Also there is the practice of tieing people against poles to abuse them.

Perhaps NATO can pick up on Georgio/Ukro/Belo/Russian applications of kettlebell and barbell for specific incremental loading. Perhaps through warfare exchange.

Baybars · 2022-03-28T23:17:34Z

Yupo Hey, thanks for that video. His explanations made perfect sense and made me realize I have no idea of the extent some men go to when trying to 'perfect' themselves.

Watching it reminded me that while I was in engineering sales through the decades past, wearing a suit and staying in nice hotels, more men bought me drinks in the hotel bars/dinning rooms that did women.

Wearing a Muskoka dining jacket and holding a pint of beer in a country bar (any bar without chrome and glass) is a far better way to meet women and avoid having to tell men; "Hey thanks for the drink but I don't swing that way."

Yupo · 2022-03-29T01:23:59Z

Baybars Some of the bodybuilding videos are almost pornographic. I mean a form of soft porn, kind of like food porn (but worse). Here's some food porn: [Link]

Baybars · 2022-03-29T15:04:01Z

Yupo Have I sinned by watching that food preparation?

Yupo · 2022-03-29T15:19:05Z

Baybars I have saved you from sin by not showing you certain segments of body building videos.

Baybars · 2022-03-29T15:26:58Z

Yupo Don't worry, there is weight-training and then there is just gay porn. I aught to be able to tell the difference between the two.

I trained for years; some martial arts, some just to bulk up. Two of my sons are in the military and train daily. I've never had a 'body waxing' or 'sugaring' and have broken half of my fingers and toes over the years sparing and fighting.

Animanarchy · 2022-03-29T16:33:56Z

Baybars Only if you coveted it or gave into the temptation to masticate.

The Terminator: It's like cumming!

Dwoods44 · 2022-03-27T13:14:03Z

What is most revealing of Arnold is he was "elected" governor of California. Clearly he had connections to the puppet masters. An old time predictive scifi movie, that showed transhumanism and mind control was Total Recall starring Arnold.

Yupo · 2022-03-27T13:26:35Z

Dwoods44 We live in a very weird world. No telling how many layers to this stinking onion.

Dwoods44 · 2022-03-27T13:37:14Z

Yupo Even for those of us that are awake to some things, our whole human history is going to be upended. When I discovered the work of Tesla, and that all of Tesla's research was confiscated by the FBI, I understood. The history I was taught included Edison, Tesla's contemporary, but nothing about Tesla. Tesla's research and engineering of allternating current created the industrial and cell phone revolutions. Why was he not included? He was too close to inventing free energy and anti-gravity magnetic fields and he was not connected to the power brokers. This has remained cloaked in secrecy through the National Security act and the deep state/globalist agenda.

Yupo · 2022-03-27T13:56:44Z

Dwoods44 Apparently this was the fellow tasked with going through all the confiscated Tesla materials and records:[Link]

azigzagidiot · 2022-03-27T23:56:06Z

DWoods44 Somehow, this more interesting line of investigation emerges here. Characteristic in its development, almost.

At least partly as a function of the, so to speak, associative machinery ("In trying to understand propaganda and social engineering, we need to be aware of words and phrases and what meaning and context is attached to it.[...]").

Relating to Baybars mention of electroshock earlier, I mention the eponymous Milgram experiment.

Are you, DWoods44, here responding on a phone :dislike:? Because you're branching off from sets of replies twice now. Nonetheless, for the Tesla / Total Recall mentions

From the associative machinery, "Cry Macho" is definitely better than Terminator, and possibly Total Recall; or at least definitely... more Macho. Possibly not as macho as "The Foot Fist Way".

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Anyway, Animanarchy , Clint Eastwood does not smoke pole; he does, however, eat protein and rocks, pops nitroglycerin, and shits TNT/gunpowder. I did hear that he attempts to bend iron rods with his pelvic musculature, though. Gay, right?

Baybars · 2022-03-28T23:18:31Z

azigzagidiot The Milgram experiment! Thanks, I had forgotten the name of it.

Dwoods44 ·

Baybars Thanks

· 2022-03-30T03:29:27Z

Dwoods44 · 2022-03-27T17:55:58Z

Right. Trump's uncle was the FBI agent who gathered the research papers. What does it mean? Does DJT know what was in the materials, or that the materials existed? I would guess, yes. However, my father worked for one of the defense contractors, McDonnell/Douglas or Lockheed, and he never told me what he worked on or what he did. Obviously, we were not close.

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