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study by University of Oxford scientists has found that people who contract the Delta variant of COVID-19 after being fully vaccinated carry a similar amount of the coronavirus as those who catch the disease and have not been inoculated. The researchers stressed that vaccination still offers good protection against catching the disease in the first place, and
protects against getting seriously ill with it.
The survey of real-world U.K. data indicates, however, that vaccinated people with "
breakthrough" infections could still pose a significant infection risk to those who have
not been vaccinated.
"With Delta, infections occurring following two vaccinations had similar peak viral burden to those in unvaccinated individuals," the study, which has not yet been peer reviewed, concludes. Viral "burden" or viral load refers to how much coronavirus-infected people carry and thus "shed," or release into the environment around them, where it can potentially infect others.
The survey compared U.K. government data on more than 380,000 people who tested positive for the coronavirus between December and May of this year, when the first-discovered Alpha variant accounted for most of the cases in Britain, with figures for more than 350,000 people infected over the following four months, when
Delta was dominant.
Oxford's lead researcher, Dr. Sarah Walker, told
The Telegraph that the study shows two doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna or AstraZeneca vaccines"are still protective. You are still less likely to get infected - but if you do, you will have similar levels of virus as someone who hasn't been vaccinated at all."
The data used for the study do not show how likely it is that a fully vaccinated person with the Delta variant can pass on the infection to another individual, compared to an
unvaccinated individual with the virus.
But the high viral loads found in the study are a strong indicator that the risks of transmission from both vaccinated and unvaccinated people with the Delta variant could be similar.The findings could have implications for policy makers who've banked for months on hopes that by vaccinating a large proportion of any given population, they will also protect people who cannot or will not get inoculated themselves by reducing transmissions overall."The fact that they [fully vaccinated people] can have high levels of virus suggests that people who aren't yet vaccinated may not be as protected from the Delta variant as we hoped," Walker told the British newspaper. "It comes back to this concept of
herd immunity, and the hope that the unvaccinated could be protected if we could vaccinate enough people. But I suspect the higher levels of the virus in vaccinated people are consistent with the fact that unvaccinated people are still going to be at high risk."
The message from Walker and her team at Oxford was clear: Vaccination remains the best way to protect against infection, and certainly against
serious illness or hospitalization with COVID-19, including the Delta variant.
None of the coronavirus vaccines approved for use in the U.S. or U.K. thus far eliminate the risk of infection, but they all reduce that risk by between about 70% and 90% โ and they've proven much more potent at preventing hospitalizations and deaths.
"There are lots of reasons why the vaccines may be very good at reducing the consequences of having the virus," Walker told
The Telegraph. "You may well still have a milder infection and might not end up getting hospitalized."
She said that while the results of the ongoing vaccine effectiveness study were important, "they aren't everything, and it is really important to remember the vaccines are super-effective at preventing hospitalizations."
Reader Comments
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So RC, how can we Sottees use this platform to break the back of this vaccine passport nonsense...?
Kind of like when you find yourself totally fucked on a wave like the guys on that excellent video infra. Just never panic and keep your wits about you so that you can be a survivor. It does feel to me that now, here, it's long past time to wonder 'should I have caught this wave?' The reality is that despite the best that you did, you are now here - survive and help those you love to survive or at least not volunteer to die.
Interesting times, it is said, and no one worth listening to would disagree.
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Mine was 0.0062%
Here's what kills more surfers than sharks: [Link] (And even more boring - just drowning. RIP - friends.)
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Fuck... I'm skeered. RC.... hold me!
0.003%1 in 333330.0023%1 in 434781.3043
Now I'm gonna redo with age 90 and every bad thing possible. Wish me luck.
Absolute risk (a) Absolute risk with no risk factors (b) Relative risk (a/b) COVID associated death 100% 1 in 1 0.5842% 1 in 171 171.1743 COVID associated hospital admission100%1 in 11.0005%1 in 10099.95
RC Greater than a 100% chance - just barely. (That was about 20 checks with you name it - age 99, 5'2' 180kg etc. (Or such. I ain't going to go back to fake more. I just copied their 'conclusion' and split.)
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Good luck.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest the shanked folks actually had higher levels. If that could be proven, that'd be clearly ADE.... But since it's such a harmless disease for most, having 5-6x the load 'might' not be easily noticeable in mortality as the people who will die from this are generally already going to die within 6-12 months.
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And best yet, the mosquito stabbing itchies ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
OCanadaaaa
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8 deltas in Sweden ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
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Amazing the scope of this nonsense.
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๐ฆ bottom feeders.
Good on him GOOD. I have a feeling he had intended to flex his muscles by that. I am looking forward, an elastic will snap I am sure of that!!
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then maybe in another 3000 yrs if this shit would repeat itself, so.. start laying out those cave carvings, leave messages that maybe would survive for the future generation that isnt as totally fucked up as this one, and then pple like gates and fauci will be exterminated at birth
this is the only best way out of this shit, or..
people, citizens of the earth unite, in the thousands, march upon the parliament, take out the pollies, the heads of state, presidents, prime ministers, etc, those whom orchestrated all this shite, and do to them like what was done to mussolini,
just saying for a friend!!
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I mean, someone following proper scientic method, and who is aware of the terrain theory.
BTW, checked my "Covid death risk" with the given link, and it's almost approaching 0.1%. I am totally scared, and will get my EGT shot immediately ...
JPS On Self Knifing. [Link] "We found that it's unsafe for children to not knife themselves."
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But as "old fart", I am referring to a scientific method as "do experiments, truthfully assess the data, and discard inconsistant theories".
That excludes the paramount funding criterion.
Well, we could also discuss a magic land where lollipops fall from the skies, unicorns take you to surf perfect waves and super hotties/beach groupies, await your last wave to tell you just how great of a surfer you were - but . . alas!
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The surfer's ๐โโ๏ธgot ๐ตโโ๏ธ๐๐ฟ๐ท๐ฏ
... weg vom Wasser
I'll bring the caribou.
Going for a swim is not associated with much fun for me. I'd rather be in the woods.
๐ณ is 2021 Totem. That is what we're doing. Ask
Too much water is tough to keep out of houses! Yes!
Getting sucked over the falls always sucks - even moreso when you have a sharp coral reef to land on. [Link] The weirdest thing about reefs - they look like friendly, fluffy sponges, but they're rock hard and razor sharp. Worst of all is fire coral.
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owl or eagle?
Me no bungee, chickadee stays close to her porcupine buds .and duck, penguin salmon grizzly turtle buffalo muskrat otter pumas black panther. CreekWaters is my Native name.
Those in the eye of the wave, do they make it out of there still alive?
Look, your Manatees
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*At least when I was in the water. Of course, in the winter, you can go to any of our springs as they migrate to the spring heads to get to where the water is a constant 72F. E.g., [Link] Blue and Alexander Springs come to mind - but in your video, I consider those a 'free ranging' herd.
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More Caribou, lots of Caribou
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Are those the caribou making that barking noise?
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*PG, Here Comes The Flood. [Link]
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She's talking to herself just like moi
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Bits n Pieces
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Caribou Stew
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Sirloin of the Sea
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Still interesting to watch.
Selfie Home/Cabin
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As Above So Below
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Wild Edibles
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