Objective:Health #12 - The New Red Scare - Freaking Out About the Measles

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Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:00 UTC

The measles are coming! The measles are coming!

Recent "scare media" reports would have us believe the measles is a deadly 'disease', and our governments are reacting to any surfacing of measles infections with quarantines worthy of an Ebola outbreak.

However, prior to the release of the vaccine, measles was thought of as being relatively benign - requiring only a few days of rest before being completely free of the infection, while getting the benefit of lifetime immunity from future infections.

So why is measles currently treated as a deadly modern plague while the last generation used it as a plot device for comedy on sit-coms? Is all the panic really justified?

Join us for a fascinating discussion of the measles, including the media and government's overreactions, mandatory vaccinations, as well as actual health BENEFITS of natural, wild measles infections and new research involving therapeutic uses of the measles virus in fighting cancer.

And stay tuned for Zoya's Pet Health Segment, where she talks about reading cat behavioral cues.

Additional links:

Measles Virus as a Cancer Fighter https://youtu.be/qRy-IAPJLBA
Measles to the Rescue: A Review of Oncolytic Measles Virus https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5086626/
ZERO U.S. Measles Deaths in 10 Years, but Over 100 Measles Vaccine Deaths Reported https://healthimpactnews.com/2015/zero-u-s-measles-deaths-in-10-years-but-over-100-measles-vaccine-deaths-reported/

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Hugh Mann · 2019-04-28T13:18:48Z

NBC and CNN Caught FAKING Measles Pics:

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Joan · 2019-04-28T22:14:40Z

This is my anecdotal experience of natural acquired immunity, as a child the only childhood illness I recall having were measles and chickenpox, and I survived both with no ill effects.

My younger sister had German Measles (Rubella). Several years later, when working in healthcare, I worked on a unit that had close proximity to a neonatal unit, because I had never had German Measles, I was required to have Rubella titre, it showed I had been exposed and that I have a natural acquired immunity.

Seems to me that all those parties in the 50's where mothers decided that there children get together and possibly receive a dose of the childhood illness going around may have been ancient wisdom, helping the child acquire natural immunity.

Now heaven forbid, it would be considered a criminal offense...go figure.

HashAttack2 · 2019-04-28T22:55:57Z

Joan ... and mumps - taking a child somewhere to get them deliberately infected would probably be classed as child abuse today

Joan · 2019-04-28T23:49:09Z

HashAttack2 My brother had mumps, He came to my mother and told her he had a painful swelling on his face and neck, she immediately recognized as Mumps.....Ancient wisdom?

He probably got it from school of just playing around with other kids, who knows, it is also a relatively benign illness, as the old saying goes "off color for a few days" then back to school as normal.

Now most mothers would take their child to the doctor, thinking all sorts of horrible diseases, after looking it up on the internet at the most trusted sites.

It has was around for years in as I remember in the 50's and 60's, in fact I haven't heard about it for years as a childhood illness recently, I do remember some myth, maybe that it could cause male sterility.

Highland Fleet Lute · 2019-04-28T22:23:45Z

"As a child the only childhood illness I recall having were measles and chickenpox, and I survived both with no ill effects."

Yeah, I had measles. I seem to remember it was considered normal, routine, whatever, at the time.

Brakar · 2019-04-28T22:54:24Z

hell yeah, i remember when people plated houses with asbest, smoked in cars with kids laying in the trunk no safety belts. more than 50% survived. nowadays, people cant take a screwdriver in their eye without complaining

Joan · 2019-04-28T23:59:53Z

Brakar I don't know is it just me but some of your remarks seem to be off, or maybe, I just don't understand you humor

Especially the screwdriver remark in the eye got me puzzled. .

Highland Fleet Lute · 2019-04-29T21:55:33Z

Joan Excitable type.

Brakar · 2019-04-29T22:23:13Z

Joan hmm, well, since you have an ankh as your symbol, i suspect you could be a nice and reflected person. so i will try to offer some sort of explanation. for a start; we have the the article itself. tone and content goes like this:

"The measles are coming! The measles are coming! Recent "scare media" reports would have us believe the measles is a deadly 'disease', and our governments are reacting to any surfacing of measles infections with quarantines worthy of an Ebola outbreak".

... and more bs. fact is measles kill more or less 150 000 humans every year worldwide: [Link] so why all these ridicoulouse statements about "vacchine are in general dangerous to people"/not helpfull? sott thinks people should be able to cope with a few 100 000s deaths per year? (aka be able to take "a screwdriver in the eye once-and-awhile whitout complaining")?

basically i think this article is a good example of low intelligence / or bad intent "journalism". so, in this case i was not intending to be humoristic, just sarcastic.

Brakar · 2019-04-29T23:01:22Z

Highland Fleet Lute excitable??? had to look up that one;

"adjective (of a person or an animal) tending to react quickly and strongly to things"

[Link] could fit. but most people i know would probably say i have more of the characteristics of a lazy person

anartist · 2019-04-30T03:41:59Z

Brakar and how many of those measles related deaths are due to malnutrition, something mentioned in the show which you haven't listened to I would guess. How may deaths in North America? maybe one? two? How many deaths due to the measles vaccine in the USA? "Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS), including 459 related deaths, 6,936 hospitalizations, and 1,748 related disabilities. Over 50% of those adverse events occurred in children three years old and under. However, the numbers of vaccine-related injuries and deaths reported to VAERS may not reflect the true number of serious health problems that occur develop after MMR vaccination." [Link]
Thats a LOT more death FROM the vaccine, than from measles.

I thnk it would be great if you listened to the show, and let us know what you think of the actual shows contents!

Brakar · 2019-04-30T22:24:36Z

anartist

and how many of those measles related deaths are due to malnutrition, something mentioned in the show which you haven't listened to I would guess. How may deaths in North America? maybe one? two? How many deaths due to the measles vaccine in the USA? "Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS), including 459 related deaths, 6,936 hospitalizations, and 1,748 related disabilities. Over 50% of those adverse events occurred in children three years old and under. However, the numbers of vaccine-related injuries and deaths reported to VAERS may not reflect the true number of serious health problems that occur develop after MMR vaccination." [Link]

seemes you have better track on those questions than me, and for what i know you might mainly be correct. but claiming "many of those measle deaths are due to malnutration (and poor general health care?) seemes far fetched. might apply to us, but where those deathts occure, they would probably not have happened (at those actual times) without measles. that is simply how the world is

Thats a LOT more death FROM the vaccine, than from measles.

i guess the point by this is stating that vacchine is dangerous, -do not work(?) well, in a population where 9x% are vacchinated, disease will not have good chance to spread. hence it makes good sence from a purely egoistic perspective to avoid vacchine - given it have even microscopic chance of bi-effects. "leave that risk to the others" - while harvesting the benefits of "the others" taking the vacchine/risk (even how small). do you doubt that the vacchine works(?)

I think it would be great if you listened to the show, and let us know what you think of the actual shows contents!

i tried to, but after 5 minutes (felt like hours) of cozy robotic insinuations, i got hives all over and had to shut it off. i cant take it that amounts of bs, sorry about that.

Ruth · 2019-05-03T22:16:22Z

Brakar Your willful ignorance is astonishing. I guess it has to do with a short attention span coupled with having to listen to ideas which contradict a belief system. Yep, that's pretty amazing, especially in the context of reading sott.

gdpetti · 2019-04-29T17:23:28Z

Outbreak of Over 12,000 Cases of Measles in Ukraine is Caused by Recent Vaccination Campaign?

In recent years there has been a shortage of measles vaccines in Ukraine. Vaccination rates had dropped to 31% in 2016 and were the lowest in Europe. And yet there were hardly any cases of measles. In 2017 sufficient vaccines became available for a 'catch-up campaign' and 90% of the children in Ukraine received the MMR. Since then there has been an explosion of cases of measles. The number has already surpassed 12000! Why is the media ignoring the current outbreak of measles in Ukraine? And what is really going on?

[Link]

Brakar · 2019-05-03T20:14:42Z

the boring facts about measles, which do not sell/the press (including sott) do not bother to write about is this;

- without vacchine measles spreads like an epedemic and almost every child will have it [Link]
- about 1:1000 will die from it (provided "western" healthcare) [Link]

Highland Fleet Lute · 2019-05-03T21:29:43Z

Like I said: The excitable type

Brakar · 2019-05-03T22:00:10Z

out of curiosity, would it be unpolite / excitabile to ask how you came to this (brilliant) conclusion?

Ruth · 2019-05-03T22:19:32Z

Brakar You'd probably be 'bored' by it.

Brakar · 2019-05-03T22:34:45Z

hmm, i suppose you are right. i do normally not hold much interest in old farts views

Brakar · 2019-05-03T23:36:37Z

still, i would be nice to have a reply from the flute himselves

LindaMay · 2019-05-04T01:39:01Z

Brakar... don't pay (?) any attention

Highland Fleet Lute · 2019-05-04T05:33:02Z

Brakar Hmm. Vaccine-induced encephalopathy anyone?

Brakar ·

sweet

· 2019-05-04T19:32:06Z

Rowan Cocoan · 2019-05-03T23:02:33Z

I was born in the very late 1950s. As I recall, I've only had two 'prophylactic vaccines' smallpox and polio. (I have a small circular scar on my upper right arm.) I imagine/hope that they were not at the same time.

As a kid at a doctor's or school, they'd simply ask my Mum, and eventually me, ' Have you had all of the usual childhood diseases? meaning measles, mumps, and chicken pox?" The answer was always yes. Only much later - say around 1984? - was the question modified to ' Have you had, or been vaccinated for , all of the usual childhood diseases?

How did I get them? Some kid would come down with a relatively weak case of the those three diseases, and, as I recall, usually around the beginning of summer school break, we'd go play at the other kids homes. (From age 4-6 we lived in the Mojave Desert and had no neighbors to speak of. After that, we were in Florida from 1966? forward, where there were other kids around.) It was only later that we learned from our parents that was how we'd gotten them*. I am sure that getting those diseases that way is a far more effective and permanent way to get them behind one in this existence.

Was what I've described commonplace elsewhere? Have you other SOTTfolk had similar? or different? treatments? I ask because we lived in small towns during those time frames,and no long established cities and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that other folks had more than just a smallpox vaccine. (I guess I had a polio vaccine, too.)

It surely seems that the vaccines for smallpox and polio made sense, but more and more it seems that almost all, or literally all, of the rest have been the Med & Big Med & Pharma industries 'piling on' for sheer profit; the Hippocratic Oath be damned.

R.C.

* My Mum even told me and my little sister - about when I was 17 and she was 15 - that 'You kids wouldn't even be here if they'd come out with the pill earlier." We all laughed our asses off! (Hell, my parents were always straightforward with us, and helped teach us the value of looking at life with a sense of humor.

RC

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Objective:Health #12 - The New Red Scare - Freaking Out About the Measles

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