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'Post-truth Age': Media amplifying rage at Trump's 'Muslim ban', but was silent on Obama's similar moves

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Tue, 31 Jan 2017 20:57 UTC

A 'Muslim Ban' protest outside the White House, January 29th, 2017

Police in the US have used tear gas to disperse protesters in Ohio as demonstrations against Donald Trump's immigration ban continue across the country.

Comment: Coming on the heels of protests over Trump's election, then his inauguration, media-inspired protest looks like it's going to be a regular feature of his presidency.

Guess who popped up to join the Trump-bashing?

Barack Obama has re-entered the political fray just ten days after he handed power over to Mr Trump, stating that he supports mass protests against the "extreme vetting" orders.

"The President fundamentally disagrees with the notion of discriminating against individuals because of their faith or religion," Mr Obama's spokesman said in a statement that was the former president's first since leaving office.

"Citizens exercising their Constitutional rights to assemble, organise and have their voices heard by their elected officials is exactly what we expect to see when American values are at stake."

Yes, the same Obama whose administration did no different than Trump's with respect to immigration.

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stardust · 2017-01-31T21:38:30Z

Maybe the media's rates are down. Because that's what they sell : Sensationalism. Usually by amplifying the trivia while hiding the truth. Out of personal experience : Dare publicize the truth, you will be crucified.

BernorBust · 2017-02-01T00:07:09Z

MSM do not depend on ratings. That's an old-fashioned notion. It's mostly about gratuities.

stardust · 2017-02-01T18:45:53Z

BernorBust Ratings, which bring advertising, which brings money, which is necessary for their operation and profitability. It's just another business.

BernorBust · 2017-02-01T20:08:04Z

stardust How quaint. How adorably Seventyish. The Clinton Newspeak News probably gets most of what it needs from the Clinton Foundation.

stardust · 2017-02-02T03:52:23Z

BernorBust Exceptions do apply. Financing for the MSM , like in any other business, may come

from many different sources, however, advertising is their main source of income. One more thing. Next time you engage in a conversation, have a couple of solid arguments ready instead of lashing out at the "enemy" with unfounded generalizations. Good day.

baron · 2017-02-01T02:33:48Z

But of course, it's all Jewish News, and what they also aren't reporting is that the ban applies to those who hold dual citizenship, and we all know what dual citizens did so much to help the Jewish cause to bring the American War Machine down upon the heads of the enemies of the Jews when they so dutifully helped to facilitate the mass murder of 3,000 Americans here in the United Stated on September 11th, 2001, and that's what's really behind the media and their lying ass pornographic propaganda.

Ruth · 2017-02-03T00:26:52Z

baron It looks like 'Russian' news to me. RT being a Russian site. And, I don't think those Jews of dual citizenship will qualify for the ban, because they can't be Muslims as well as Jews. This is just a case of the US (in this case, Donald Trump) using religious affiliation for political means. It was a bad decision, one based on no background information, context and done to hastily.

prehistoric · 2017-02-01T05:01:27Z

"Citizens exercising their Constitutional rights to assemble, organise and have their voices heard by their elected officials is exactly what we expect to see when American values are at stake."

Yes Obama, they are heard but the politicians aren't listening to their BS. Go back to golf, you are no longer relevant and cannot be re-elected.

LonSabbatical · 2017-02-01T13:55:35Z

I think the coverage by the alternate media on this issue is a wasted opportunity. I'm not sure what other sites are reporting but the impression I get is the message is that:

- The protesters are hypocrites as what they are protesting against now, they didnt before.

- This is left wing inspired and probably there to derail Trump and maybe ignite a state of permanent chaos in the US

etc

It mostly seems that the alt media is using this opportunity to mainly bash the left. Also in some circles you get the impression of what is happening as being some sort of vindication to their foresight of the chaos that will usher in much needed change - its like redux neoconservative evangelism vis a vis the end times where certain prophecies have to be fulfilled.

However, the opportunity being missed in my opinion is that of taking the high road and educating. Instead of pointing out the hypocrisy and feeling good for it, maybe some of the people should use this opportunity to align with and educate without provoking (in the you are a libtard/snowflake hypocritical baffoon at which point the accused will shut down and immediately engage the fight/flight mechanism)... But we are not interested in that, we are all interested in being right and digging ever deeper into our pre designated trenches and hoping that when it all goes kafloey, our trench will be adequate to keep us from harms way.

We are now in the weird situation where the left is protesting mass bans on people based on country of origin or religious orientation and the alternative calling them out on it and accusing them of trying to derail the democratic leader and/or processes enacted by said leader. The left being sceptical of the profiles in the inner circles where rumor has it power is being centralised whilst the alternate says this is a necessary process to drain the swamp... where the left says if the non muslim van which only applies to islamic countries is about terrorism, then why are certain known breeding grounds e.g. Saudi arabia excluded but the alternate say that this is necessary... trust your leader, he has a plan, he is being pragmatic etc etc...

Welcome to the twilight zone.

stardust · 2017-02-01T18:56:02Z

LonSabbatical Welcome to the survival zone.

Importance · 2017-02-02T01:24:30Z

Post-Truth Age? Who writes this garbage? Once again, SOTT - a news outlet I used to respect for many years - has fallen into goosestep with their Soviet agitators on this one. And you people spouting off like you know something ought to be ashamed. Do your research. We (Americans) depend on you to be knowledgeable.

The VWP (Visa Waiver Program) to which you mindless sheep allude when you say "but Obama did it, and no one protested" specifically slowed down the entry process by not allowing travellers to enter the country without visas. No one protested that because it wasn't a ban on immigration. Trump's executive order specifically bans them. Apples and oranges - or in SOTT's case, hammers and sicles.

And regarding the usual double-speak from RT saying that "no one protested when 27 governors banned Syrians", it takes, literally, seconds to do a quick search to which party all but one of those governors belonged - Republicans, aka the New Nationalist Socialist party. People DID protest that, people DID raise their voices, but democrats were too focused on getting that snake woman elected, so they apparently bided their time and got what they deserved. Everyone else in the middle was shouted down by loudmouthed National Socialist Republicans at every turn. There were organizations all over the country trying to take in Syrian refugees, but once again, the Nazi Republican party - All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state (aka America First, spew) - impeded the process. And here, with their double-speak, RT and SOTT try to soil your eyes with some kind of guilt trip lie that "you didn't do enough then, so you shouldn't protest now" crap. What a joke. What a lie. This country - and my heritage - was founded by immigrants. These fields were tilled by immigrants and slaves, the roads and railroads built by them, as well as the buildings, and the empires. And you may as well cut the "you're a left wing libtart" boohoo crap, because you have no idea. I'll tell you right now - I'm anti-Soviet, and I fly an American flag every day, but it doesn't take 240 years of war to remind me where this nation came from.

And in the end, let's face it - SOTT, RT, and ALL THE OTHERS - are just towing the same line - let the rich get richer, keep the poor poorer, and keep the middle class scared as hell. This isn't about Republicans and Democrats, this is about destroying our tools to unite, and SOTT is guilty as an accomplice.

lysna · 2017-02-02T01:54:55Z

Importance You made some valid points but you state you're anti Soviet...who & where is Soviet...???

240 years of US wars speaks for it self...Unless you actually believe Superman & Captain America are real entities.

Also I'm worried about the mental health of anyone who personally flies their national flag every day.

You're living in the past and still believe you are the exceptional morally righteous rulers of the world

As for SOTT...It's their view and you have a right to comment here without being edited or your comment deleted.

Now that's what I call exceptional...!!!

God Bless Amurica...

prehistoric · 2017-02-02T02:14:58Z

Importance H.R.158 - Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 [Link]
Passed House amended (12/08/2015) Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015

(Sec. 2) This bill amends the Immigration and Nationality Act regarding the visa waiver program to require that an alien, when applying for program admission, possess a valid unexpired passport that: is machine-readable, tamper-resistant, incorporates document authentication identifiers, and otherwise satisfies the internationally accepted standard for machine readability; and beginning on April 1, 2016, is an electronic passport that is fraud-resistant, contains relevant biographic and biometric information, and satisfies internationally accepted standards for electronic passports.

A program country must certify that: it issues passports that satisfy the internationally accepted standard for machine readability, and as of April 1, 2016, passports that satisfy internationally accepted standards for electronic passports; and by October 1, 2016, except for travel between countries within the Schengen Zone (26 European countries that have abolished passport and any other border control at their common borders), it has in place mechanisms to validate such passports at each key port of entry.

(Sec. 3) An alien shall be ineligible for program participation who: has been present, at any time on or after March 1, 2011, in Iraq or Syria, in a country designated as one that has repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism, or in any other country or area of concern designated by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS); and regardless of whether the alien is a national of a program country, is a national of Iraq or Syria, a country designated as a country that has repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism, or any other country or area of concern. Such prohibitions shall not apply to an alien who was present in such a country to perform military or official government service for a program country. DHS may waive such prohibitions if in U.S. law enforcement or national security interests, and shall report annually to Congress on each waiver made in the previous year. DHS shall determine and review annually whether such prohibitions shall apply to any country or area, considering whether: the presence of an alien in the country or area increases the likelihood that he or she is a credible U.S. security threat, a foreign terrorist organization has a significant presence in the country or area, and the country or area is a safe haven for terrorists.

*bold added*

Reads like a ban. The previous administration just dealt with the 'aliens' after they arrived, hence Trump saying the FBI is currently investigating 1000's of visa applications. Perhaps 1000's is correct or otherwise this still points out the fact that the previous admin set the ball rolling. Trump is just stopping them before they enter to save FBI manpower later on.

Importance · 2017-02-02T02:52:05Z

prehistoric key words - "regarding the visa waiver program". If you're intelligent enough to copy and paste, you're intelligent enough to understand the difference. Good luck.

Importance · 2017-02-02T03:00:16Z

lysna 240 years of war does speak for itself - the US needs to stop asserting itself across the world through violence, and should assist other countries - not unilaterally - in ushering in an era of peace. But then I guess I'm a dreamer.

You may worry about the mental health of anyone you like, but if it's simply because they fly the flag of their nation, then I should hope you're busy clutching your pearls while the rest of the world does the same. Give me a break, what a pathetic argument. Have you been beating your head against a wall each year during the world cup, too? I doubt it. In fact, it probably hadn't occurred to you. Exceptionalism indeed.

Who and where is Soviet? Open a 20th and 21st century history book, tear out the 1900's and 1990's from the "Russia" pages. Everything else is where you'll find them. Living in the past? Sounds like you're living under a rock. Be careful out there, Putin's been purging his spies lately. Hope you're not one of 'em.

lysna · 2017-02-02T03:34:31Z

Importance Well I can agree on the US need to stop asserting it self world wide through violence & assisting countries peacefully but for the rest of your comment...sorry...I should just rest my case...

The Soviet Union is long gone.

If you don't trust Putin, fine, neither do I too much...as for any politician...but thinking he's a Soviet is way off course.

Nationalist yes...!!!

As for your constant flag waving & showing off your US pearls and virtues...give me a break...you're confused or indoctrinated or both.

There's only one other Exceptional Country left that's Empirically trying to dominate all others through ideology, money and violence.

Well there's some others but they're under the Empires control.

You're an indoctrinated Russophobic.

Go and have a good long holiday in Russia do some friendly mingling with the people and you'll get over it I'm sure.

And above all keep an open mind that you could be wrong.

prehistoric · 2017-02-02T09:17:36Z

Importance Yes I copied and paste as the doctrine is not my words and to summarize would be defeating the purpose of my point; which is to show the amendment to the original doctrine and its' content.

As to "regarding the visa waiver program", the amendment is amending the original program. So that would mean that the amendment is regarding the original VWP. Simply put: no alien is allowed in that resides in any country that harbors terrorism or if the alien is deemed a threat to the U.S national security. In other words banned. Since this amendment was added in 2015, that concludes the amendment to be under Obamas watch.

Whats not to understand? Trump just took the law and enforced it immediately.

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