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Comment: The gender pronoun debate has reached new levels of absurdity, but it can now be clearly seen as a symptom of encroaching fascism under the guise of "political correctness" or "Liberal and Progressive Values". What must be realized is that these values are nothing but an empty shell ideology that conceals total pathology underneath.The main ponerization process begins among "intellectuals" at universities because those are the guides and teachers of the young. Universities train teachers of even younger children, and thus it becomes easy to poison an entire society in a single generation if you have the power to determine what is "correct".
See also:
- Ridiculous: What's your preferred pronoun? Gender non-conformist students adopt new badge of courage
- Policing of speech: NYC to fine businesses for not using the correct gender pronoun
- Professor explains the increase of 'precious snowflakes' - cites narcissism, over-nurturing
- The Health & Wellness Show: The medical and social implications of gender multiplicity
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Exactly
This doesn't exist in isolation. It exists in a perfect-storm-field where there is also GM soya in the food production chain, fluoride in the water supply, EMF and blue light disrupting hormone production/cognitive function etc.
HFL, your observation is spot on. We've come a long way but not in the right direction. How does one go back to where we missed the turn off?
Every day it appears to me that shedding the 'civilized, politically correct' persona needed to do business in this world is exactly what I need to make me happy and complete.
Every day it appears to me that shedding the 'civilized, politically correct' persona needed to do business in this world is exactly what I need to make me happy and complete.
What's unfortunate about so-called 'political correctness' is that it's an attempt to acquire virtue by mimicking other people in order to acquire 'the appearance' of virtuousness.
The appearance of virtue takes the place of virtue. Crowds out virtue. Feels threatened by virtue and tries to suffocate virtue in the name of and under the cover of an appearance of virtue.
The same will probably happen with the alt. right crowd. There'll come a point when that oeuvre will collapse under the weight of people vigorously pursuing the aim of attaining the perfect appearance of an alt. right true believer or whatever.
The appearance of virtue takes the place of virtue. Crowds out virtue. Feels threatened by virtue and tries to suffocate virtue in the name of and under the cover of an appearance of virtue.
The same will probably happen with the alt. right crowd. There'll come a point when that oeuvre will collapse under the weight of people vigorously pursuing the aim of attaining the perfect appearance of an alt. right true believer or whatever.
One good thing about Trump is that he hasn't made any great attempts to feign virtuousness.
LOL! No, he hasn't
That is a big draw for many people who tire of the fake Obama and fake Clinton and fake news and, well, you get the picture
That is a big draw for many people who tire of the fake Obama and fake Clinton and fake news and, well, you get the picture
Re: Re: Reader Comment
Indeed. Also, looking at some of the dynamics, things like the Rosy O' Donnell "fat pig" episode were perhaps not just unfortunate gaffes but entirely necessary components of Trump's campaign.
The noise generated by virtue-signallers, imitators, toadies, fakes, organic portals, is a signal-skewer that is more or less a given in every culture, religion, political structure, art scene.
Gurdjieff used to alienate suckophants by 'treading on their corns'. I guess if you're a celebrity billionaire presidential hopeful, you've got a lifetimes experience of dealing with that kind of thing. Not that I'm comparing Gurdjieff with Trump, I'm just talking about dynamics. I could have cited The Sex Pistols as an example of that too.
Indeed. Also, looking at some of the dynamics, things like the Rosy O' Donnell "fat pig" episode were perhaps not just unfortunate gaffes but entirely necessary components of Trump's campaign.
The noise generated by virtue-signallers, imitators, toadies, fakes, organic portals, is a signal-skewer that is more or less a given in every culture, religion, political structure, art scene.
Gurdjieff used to alienate suckophants by 'treading on their corns'. I guess if you're a celebrity billionaire presidential hopeful, you've got a lifetimes experience of dealing with that kind of thing. Not that I'm comparing Gurdjieff with Trump, I'm just talking about dynamics. I could have cited The Sex Pistols as an example of that too.
After watching and listening to these videos and the implications of this bill which has already passed, I am reminded of this quote
In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
And there is this
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever. George Orwell.
So what does this bill really mean, for me anyway, it is an attempt to alter reality for some bogus ideology that denies reality, the biological makeup of humanity, to create and inculcate the masses into a reality so malevolent under the guise of gender and political correctness.
To shape public thought and speech, for an agenda. One may ask what is this agenda, for those with eyes to see IMO, it is the total domination of freedom, free thought and free speech and the use of the law to bring this into reality.
Will we be seeing in the near future on the bookshelves of libraries in universities, in public libraries and bookstores shelves, the equivalent of a doublespeak dictionary, the "Dictionary of Political Correctness"
Let's face it, seems to me that unless one does not want to be slapped with a "fine" (reminds me of the simplistic idea of a swear box) then one better know the correct pronoun to use.
Will we become a race of peoples that dare not speak above a whisper.
To be honest, I think the establishment fear such honest educators as Jordan Peterson, they fear him because he understands them as individuals and there agenda (he is a psychologist) and such educators have no place in the reality they are attempting to create.
He is anathema to them. Why he educates young people in the ways of the world and the reality we live in and empowers them to make choices that will not only benefit themselves, but there families and community. In essence he is providing them with a map or framework to build upon to make them be a successful being.
From his Bio
As a Harvard professor, he was nominated for the prestigious Levinson Teaching Prize, and is regarded by his current University of Toronto students as one of three truly life-changing teachers.
Now think about that, life changing! For a young person that is truly dynamic and smacks of creative process.
How does he motivate young people, out future, well if you care to watch there are two really good TED talks he has given from Toronto University the first is titled "Potential" his passion is obvious. The second is Reality in Six minutes
[Link]
[Link]
From the editors comment
Universities train teachers of even younger children, and thus it becomes easy to poison an entire society in a single generation if you have the power to determine what is "correct".
Speaking of young children, the BBC in the UK has produced a childrens program discussing transgender, this is from a Daily Mail article, the only one I could find doing a simple web search that disclosed the issue.
Just A Girl is the fictional video diary of a child who calls herself ‘Amy’ and dresses as a girl. It is hosted on the CBBC website, aimed at children aged between six and 12.
In the half-hour programme, Amy – played by an actress – reveals she was born a boy called Ben but has already started using puberty-halting drugs.
Such hypothalamic blockers provoked a furore two years ago when The Mail on Sunday revealed an NHS clinic was willing to give them to children as young as nine.
Critics cited research claiming that most teenagers confused about their gender never go through with surgery, with many realising they are gay. The BBC row comes amid growing controversy over gender issues, fuelled by a number of high-profile cases. In one, a Christian couple were threatened with having their 14-year-old daughter taken away because they oppose her plans to become a boy.
In another, a seven-year-old boy was ordered to be removed from his mother’s care as ‘she was raising him as female’, causing him ‘a great deal of emotional harm’.
Read more: [Link]
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
I am now speechless!
In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
And there is this
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever. George Orwell.
So what does this bill really mean, for me anyway, it is an attempt to alter reality for some bogus ideology that denies reality, the biological makeup of humanity, to create and inculcate the masses into a reality so malevolent under the guise of gender and political correctness.
To shape public thought and speech, for an agenda. One may ask what is this agenda, for those with eyes to see IMO, it is the total domination of freedom, free thought and free speech and the use of the law to bring this into reality.
Will we be seeing in the near future on the bookshelves of libraries in universities, in public libraries and bookstores shelves, the equivalent of a doublespeak dictionary, the "Dictionary of Political Correctness"
Let's face it, seems to me that unless one does not want to be slapped with a "fine" (reminds me of the simplistic idea of a swear box) then one better know the correct pronoun to use.
Will we become a race of peoples that dare not speak above a whisper.
To be honest, I think the establishment fear such honest educators as Jordan Peterson, they fear him because he understands them as individuals and there agenda (he is a psychologist) and such educators have no place in the reality they are attempting to create.
He is anathema to them. Why he educates young people in the ways of the world and the reality we live in and empowers them to make choices that will not only benefit themselves, but there families and community. In essence he is providing them with a map or framework to build upon to make them be a successful being.
From his Bio
As a Harvard professor, he was nominated for the prestigious Levinson Teaching Prize, and is regarded by his current University of Toronto students as one of three truly life-changing teachers.
Now think about that, life changing! For a young person that is truly dynamic and smacks of creative process.
How does he motivate young people, out future, well if you care to watch there are two really good TED talks he has given from Toronto University the first is titled "Potential" his passion is obvious. The second is Reality in Six minutes
[Link]
[Link]
From the editors comment
Universities train teachers of even younger children, and thus it becomes easy to poison an entire society in a single generation if you have the power to determine what is "correct".
Speaking of young children, the BBC in the UK has produced a childrens program discussing transgender, this is from a Daily Mail article, the only one I could find doing a simple web search that disclosed the issue.
Just A Girl is the fictional video diary of a child who calls herself ‘Amy’ and dresses as a girl. It is hosted on the CBBC website, aimed at children aged between six and 12.
In the half-hour programme, Amy – played by an actress – reveals she was born a boy called Ben but has already started using puberty-halting drugs.
Such hypothalamic blockers provoked a furore two years ago when The Mail on Sunday revealed an NHS clinic was willing to give them to children as young as nine.
Critics cited research claiming that most teenagers confused about their gender never go through with surgery, with many realising they are gay. The BBC row comes amid growing controversy over gender issues, fuelled by a number of high-profile cases. In one, a Christian couple were threatened with having their 14-year-old daughter taken away because they oppose her plans to become a boy.
In another, a seven-year-old boy was ordered to be removed from his mother’s care as ‘she was raising him as female’, causing him ‘a great deal of emotional harm’.
Read more: [Link]
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
I am now speechless!
Those who can see are being faced with a choice, and Jordan Peterson seems to lay it out about as clearly as possible. There is no getting around the fact that the choice is terrifying, it seems. Regardless of what we do, there is no guarantee how the situation will turn out, and that alone terrifying. And the terror is right at the center of the choice; how are we going to orient ourselves toward reality and the emotions it stirs within us. It doesn't look like there's any way to make it easy, but that's what makes it a choice, isn't it?
I certainly find it terrifying, but the battle is fought through us. At least we have each other, and if we don't connect and support each other now, the chance to do so may pass for this lifetime.
Jordan Peterson's words in the second video remind me of this quote:
"Every time you say "yes" to someone who doesn't deserve it, and go against Yourself and what you value the most, you kill a small part of your essence." -Laura Knight-Jadczyk
And what happens when our essence is weak? Apparently we become/remain capable of terrible evil, just like the Auschwitz prison guards. Not against our will, but because we have no will.
I certainly find it terrifying, but the battle is fought through us. At least we have each other, and if we don't connect and support each other now, the chance to do so may pass for this lifetime.
Jordan Peterson's words in the second video remind me of this quote:
"Every time you say "yes" to someone who doesn't deserve it, and go against Yourself and what you value the most, you kill a small part of your essence." -Laura Knight-Jadczyk
And what happens when our essence is weak? Apparently we become/remain capable of terrible evil, just like the Auschwitz prison guards. Not against our will, but because we have no will.
A quote to tag on: "Only as a warrior can one survive the path of knowledge, because the art of a warrior is to balance the terror of being a man with the wonder of being a man." Carlos Castaneda's Don Juan's Teachings"
Good comment by the editor.
The modern world in a nutshell is about stealing mother's milk and giving out candy in return.
Caramel high corn fructose goo gobs, no less.
What a deal.
ned,
out