Jeremy Corbell interviews author of piece on former Israeli Space Program Director, professor Haim Eshed's UFO revelations

life He looks like a Yahwehian Cultist, who freshly got back from goat sacrifice, on which eerie event accidentally humans were sacrificed as well. But that was totally accidental..

hobnyeba all the light you can not see, by Anthony Doerr

and... no witness to nothing, by Gary Rodgers

life Thank you, it may be a little while. :D

hobnyeba I don't see that. However, I have noticed that lately people talking about phenomena are being much more careful about what they say. Joe Rogan interviewed Jacque Valles the other week and he basically refused to speculate even on topics he has well known hypotheses about.

To me, this guy seems to be checking notes which makes sense as he's not being interviewed in his first language, and who probably got lucky, getting what he did out of Haim, and doesn't want to ruin this access by feeding the sensationalist aspects of the story.

Who knows? I'm still trying to integrate the idea that something is going on all around us that we aren't fully aware of. I mean, do you wake up in the morning with thoughts like "I wonder what the aliens are doing?" like it's fully integrated into your reality, or like most people (as I do most of the time), just want to believe but still have a hard time wrapping your head around something you haven't experienced to be true yourself?

Artex Could be that, it's altogether possible and even likely I'm being judgmental. Because I distrust disclosure and the agenda, maybe.

Reading and learning as you have would integrate the concepts enough, I expect, and chewing over the implications and making the concepts make as much sense as possible. What else is there?

I find it's not difficult to accept theoretically that everything is influenced by higher realms (except for the vast majority of people I guess) but it is emotionally difficult for me to accept my powerlessness, for instance, comparative to both the STS and STO sides. That could be my own illusion, since it is all about our choices, and I can't do better than 'they' can.

And then obviously fear would drive people away, but that's just the atheists anyway, or nominally religious people who are blind to evil. Fear would make others want to know more, or accept it and hope they never have to think about it again, if that's actually possible. Which is fine too, since the way to be strong enough to deal with it all is to build character and control ourselves, and that can be done without thinking about aliens every second. So all paths are open.

And I could be very much mistaken.

hobnyeba & Artex:

Great and informative discussion; why I'm here!

H: Love this part:

I find it's not difficult to accept theoretically that everything is influenced by higher realms (except for the vast majority of people I guess) but it is emotionally difficult for me to accept my powerlessness, for instance, comparative to both the STS and STO sides. That could be my own illusion, since it is all about our choices, and I can't do better than 'they' can.

H & A: Also,it may be showing my shallow side, but whenever I read anyone properly conjugating "it's", as ye both have done and consistently do, I instantly listen closer the points made. )

RC

Rowan Cocoan I appreciate your posts too.

I promise nothing when it comes to grammar.

hobnyeba I practice Hermeticism and I know it works. Integrating the idea of aliens though is a little more difficult as I've not tried in any capacity to contact entities. I know that I don't know enough as to make it dangerous for me to tool around with. But I have also used DMT and have had contact with entities that seemed more real than real. However, when you experience these things with psychedelics, one's mind has a way of eventually dismissing the experience as completely internal. On that same note though, everything could be internal.

Artex Interesting. My friend has never tried it. He has tried pretty much everything without problems - and he tells me that shrooms are mild and helpful. He says it's been decades since he rolled or did acid, but no problems there, either.

DMT? Your review? Best way to get, take it? Thanks!

RC

Rowan Cocoan Shrooms mild and helpful? Helpful yes, mild depends on dosage. My last trip was 6g dry and I visited the moment of my death. LSD I've never had much luck with. LSA is very introspective and not very visual. Also uncomfortable.

But DMT? Nothing you've experienced can prepare you for DMT. When I had it I got it off the dark web using cryptos, but I'm wary of that now. I have some mimosa hostilis bark which I will eventually extract DMT from. Best way to take it is if you can get your hands on medically prepared stuff and have someone give it to you in an injection. But that's not reasonable. Most people smoke it, carefully, using a sandwich method placing it in between two layers of cannabis or catnip. The idea is not to burn it because that destroys it. You basically vaporize it by burning the layer above it. The bottom layer is so it doesn't fall into your smoking implement, because we're talking 30-50mg of a fine powder.

As for what it's like, I can describe it as being shot out of a railgun into hyperspace. It takes about 90 minutes to peak on LSD or shrooms. With DMT you peak in under a minute, and it lasts about 15 minutes. But you can live several lifetimes in that 15 minutes. And the headspace is you know you're tripping, your head is clear, but reality has completely transformed. Time stops or slows down significantly, and you get the distinct feeling you're surrounded by autonomous entities that may or may not show themselves to you. It can be amazing, but I also experienced abject terror the last time I tried it.

Lex Fridman just interviewed Matthew Johnson for 3.5 hours on psychedelics. Haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but the clips I've watched are pretty accurate descriptions in my experience. [Link]

Artex Thank you!

I've My friend has always been a fan of moderation - and it's always been his approach to all drugs. It ain't some discipline or such, it's just the way he prefers em; likes to remain in control.

If I my friend ever does try, I'll let you know.

Thanks again!

RC

Rowan Cocoan I started using shrooms in my mid-thirties and started small. In the last 2-3 years I've found larger, less frequent doses are much more helpful. For instance, the last time I did them was right when the "2 weeks to flatten the curve" BS started last March, and I credit it with keeping me level-headed throughout 2020. I also spend a considerable amount of time preparing for the trip in various ways including meditating on things I don't like to address and reading up on topics I'm struggling to understand. The biggest thing psilocybin gives me is long-view clarity.

Artex Thanks! My friend first used them when he was 14 but they grow around here. Absolutely agree on the long-view clarity.

May I ask where you are from? If not, just no reply and no worries.

Me? I'm from my name in Florida.

RC

Rowan Cocoan I'm in Wisconsin. Spores are legal to purchase here for microscopy.

Artex yesterday was cold and i had to fix one of the pond recirculation pumps - our geese knocked it over, it was now pumping water under and not up into the air... 1 hp not a big pump... when i sorted it out and put the juice to 'er the sound of the water falling - picture holding your garden hose, water traveling in an arch, 8 ft high ~ 20 ft long ... as it hit the open water it made a louder than normal sound, combined with the crisp winter air it was almost deafening.

does this remind you of anything Artex ? the sound instantly reminded me of an experience i had about 16 years ago while searching for a remedy for migraines. i don't let the kitchen tap blast water for longer than is necessary...because of that sound. yeah, i know, before one is exiting the railgun, there is that sound ...

i wasn't surrounded by autonomous entities, but i moved (no body, but i could see, hear, feel) through a high intensity colour changing kaleidoscope of structures (?) until i stopped at a massive circular sun - and that's when a being approached me, i was starting to worry, and as you said seconds seem like hours. the being was feminine, a human silhouette, its colours flowing but different, not as brilliant as the structures, no detail..and it communicated a concept or words or something, difficult to articulate. long story short, the experience lasted maybe 10 minutes. the information in the communication happened about five months later... it was of a personal nature, all good, and even now i second guess myself - did that really happen. yup it did.

second and last experience, about 9 months after the first, same launch etc etc... different landing zone, similar structures but arrived at the "sun"...picture a glowing orange/yellow circular but flat object like a coin - could have been 10 ft dia. or 100 ft dia. but it was a door... that's the impression i received. no female being. this time i sensed it was a male being, picture spiderman, only the suit was glowing flowing silver, and the impression / communication was gentle / calm: "you are not ready yet" ... i had the feeling that meant that i was not ready to pass through that door. then whoosh, back to reality. whoa.

could have been bs, i have no idea. i have not done any kitchen chemistry since... those two events were more than enough to analyse for a lifetime, i never experienced terror, just an overwhelming sense of minuteness, i felt calm when the beings were near me, though afterward it felt like i was a quark sized particle flowing in an ocean of brilliant kaleidoscope of unknown meaning.

i have never written about this but after reading your words above, well, my jaw hit the floor. i have never talked with anyone who has had a similar experience, so that's why i wrote this, and wanted to thank you for discussing your dmt experience. it didn't help with migraines, psylocibin c. has, but am not going there today.

life.

life Speaking from old experience (I've not had one in years) but the best remedy I ever found was butalbitol (the stuff in fioricet) but in f-cet that's got tylenol which is nasty for many reasons.

So, the trick was aspirin, plus caffeine plus butalbitol or just basic phenobarbitol. That mix would really kill them quickly. (Ice pack on top of face was big help too.)

RC

Rowan Cocoan fortunately (hahaha) we have lots of ice & snow here. snow packed in a pillowcase placed on top of face helps.

Thank you RC, i really appreciate the info and will research more about f-cet et al and where to acquire them (am familiar with tylenol).

🙏

life Yes. The sound. I forgot the sound as you liftoff, and then the *pop*.

One of the entities I encountered was a large wireframe spider. I'm afraid of spiders, but the wireframe nature of it didn't frighten me. It spoke telepathically, something I describe as completely different than one's internal monologue. People who have experienced it might understand it as the conveyance of ideas that moves faster than thought. I thought the entity was Anansi. If it was gendered, it was male. It answered all of my questions before I could ask them, but it also told me that I could not keep the answers because our receivers are not capable of processing the signal. The DMT was a "sneak peak" at what is really out there.

Artex LOL, the "pop" i forgot about that. you accurately described the communication style that i was struggling to explain in words - - telepathically, conveying ideas without words and without physically audible sound.

maybe because we are stuck in 3D and are rusty at the "thought conveyance" (lol) technique - that's why we perceived the beings answering our thought questions before we realized we mentally completed the process of forming the thought (?)... i.e. to your comment "moves faster than thought".

other readers may not know that dmt is a chemical found (created ?) naturally in extremely small amounts in the human brain...pineal gland i think. all interesting stuff !

life There's also the theory that the pineal dumps a load of it during the process of physical death, but I'm not so sure. Psychedelic mushrooms cause activity in several areas of the brain to drastically decrease during a trip. Filters off, I guess. That's what's compelling to me that what we experience isn't imagination, but closer to reality that we normally filter into a comfortable display.

Animanarchy

They keep glitching out

yeah, wondering the same thing, gut feeling says it's not accidental, maybe not nefarious, but weird none the less eh.

life Those were edits and cuts in the conversation. Corbell used a special effect to hide the cuts, as an editor does. I prefer smooth transition cuts myself.

Artex hey thanks Artex; am not familiar with editing...i learned something !

life I'm no expert, but I did notice eventually that they seemed to coincide with cuts from the interview. In audio editing, which I am familiar with, you would just make silent cuts to remove dead air or fumbling over words. I even listen to one podcast that allows the guest to edit their side of the conversation before the podcast is published, to re-record or re-word what they were trying to say in a more cogent way.

Rowan Cocoan "skeptical" is a unique crayola colour* of aqua and deep ocean blue, whirled, in cascading and tumbling fluidity riding under a cresting spray of sparkling silver white blue mist, entirely coalesced as individual suspended droplets, timeless, in a backdrop of sky blue clarity.



(*GWN spelling)

life You must be doing well on Madison Avenue.

RC

Rowan Cocoan ummm... ya lost me there ...Madison Ave. ?

i was referring to colours in your photo/avatar the colour of skeptical

life It means "in advertising."

And, I thought you were describing surfing, but the pic is that, so my guess was close.The point was and remains - excellent writing. (Writing 'advert copy', or such.) RC

Rowan Cocoan oh ok now i see ! LOL ... i'm a little slow outta the igloo this morning eh, redneck lumber jack and all ... Madison Ave., good one !

life Very nice. They should put that on cans of Molson Dry. [Link]

Animanarchy Wow! That sounds tasty! Every beer I ever really like got shut down (Michelob Dry, et al.) or imports stopped (Superior, Mex.; Polar Beer, Venz.). I would never turn down a Molson.

RC