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Spanish judge jails eight members of deposed Catalan government, seeks prison term for Prime Minster Puigdemont

The Guardian
Thu, 02 Nov 2017 20:03 UTC

Former members of the Catalan government arrive at Spain’s national court in Madrid on Thursday

A judge in Madrid has ordered eight members of the deposed Catalan government to be remanded in custody pending possible charges over last week's declaration of independence, and Spanish prosecutors are seeking a European arrest warrant for the region's ousted president, Carles Puigdemont.

Carmen Lamela, sitting in Spain's national court, jailed the eight former ministers - including Puigdemont's deputy, Oriol Junqueras - on Thursday while they are investigated on possible charges of sedition, rebellion and misuse of public funds.

Lamela ruled that a ninth, who resigned the day before the Catalan parliament voted to declare independence last Friday, could remain at liberty on bail of €50,000 (£44,600).

Lawyers for those under investigation said their clients would appeal against the judge's decision, which they described as unjustified, disproportionate and predetermined.

Puigdemont, who travelled to Brussels shortly before Spain's attorney general announced his intention to pursue the charges, had been summoned to attend the national court to give evidence on Thursday and Friday.

In a written request to Lamela, prosecutors said that Puigdemont and four other members of his administration were aware that they had been ordered to testify, but had chosen not to attend.

"Repeated attempts to deliver the summons at home and repeated phone calls have been ignored," they said. "For his part, Carles Puigdemont has publicly stated his intention not to appear and has requested ... to make a statement via videoconference, without giving any information about his current whereabouts."

Consequently, they added, they were requesting Puigdemont be found and arrested, along with the four other regional ministers who are also in Belgium.

Lamela's decision to remand the leaders in custody on the grounds that they could be a flight risk was swiftly condemned by politicians and civil society groups in Catalonia and beyond.

Hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets of Catalonia last month after the same judge ordered the jailing of two prominent pro-independence leaders, Jordi Sánchez, the president of the Catalan National Assembly (ANC), and Jordi Cuixart, the president of Òmnium Cultural.

Both men are under investigation for alleged sedition in the run-up to the unilateral independence referendum on 1 October.

The ANC called for a huge demonstration on Thursday evening outside the Catalan parliament in Barcelona. Its vice-president, Agustí Alcoberro, said the arrested leaders were political prisoners, and tweeted: "Vice-president and ministers, we will not stop until we secure your freedom."

The mayor of Barcelona, Ada Colau, described it as a black day for Catalonia. "A government democratically elected at the ballot box is in jail," she said. "There is a common front to achieve the freedom of the political prisoners."

Comment: Now it becomes clear, if it wasn't all along, that the Madrid authorities have no intention of respecting the will of the people in Cataluña, because they clearly have no intention of finding out what their will actually is. The elections scheduled for Dec. 21st cannot possibly be representative of all Catalans when the major political figures of the independence party are in jail or have warrants out for their arrest. So is Madrid expecting that sham elections in December will be accepted by the people? Do they plan to ignore the flagrant undemocratic nature of such a move and hope that the people, in time, will simply accept it? That's a risky bet.

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ignasi · 2017-11-02T23:16:12Z

L'Espanya vella no té màscara.

Sota la pell de la "democràcia" hi ha el llop del totalitarisme.

Thiamin · 2017-11-03T00:35:23Z

It is important to remember that Spain demanded to have Gibraltar back from the British. Since the Brits love to use color revolutions to fight their war, as was the case in Syria and Ukraine etc... is it really surprising that Spain would now be facing unrest?

I believe these sort of movements, like black lives matters and this Catalan independence, are encouraged to take away the unity of a country and make it ungovernable. As a French Canadian, I have left behind any idea of independence until I am sure that this hybrid warfare is dealt with.

atreides · 2017-11-03T04:36:10Z

Thiamin Two words: Justin Trudeau.

Lemuel Gulliver · 2017-11-03T06:20:44Z

The last time we had a Spanish Civil War, it was the prelude to a wider war in Europe. Isn't it curious how history tends to repeat itself? Maybe this is the crack in the concrete of the dam that will end with the flood - the dissolution of the European Union.

This Catalan movement and others like Scotland and Venezia have, of course, been prompted by the general corruption of Governments all over the world, which suck oceans of money-milk from the titties of the banking system, and care not one stinking flea-turd for The People they are supposed to represent. The People can go f**k themselves, for all their "elected representatives" care. The People know this now quite well, and are mad as hell, and will not take it any more.

What interesting times we live in.

jordifs · 2017-11-03T08:13:59Z

Lemuel Gulliver Very interesting remarks: about one spanish conflict being the prelude to another in Europe. Daniel Estulin commented on a conspiracy idea about Catalonia breaking free. Just in time to avoid a global conflict within Europe. Like a grand Civil War. One key issue being a total economic crash. While Catalonia breaking free, there would be a transition time, a special period of isolation. To rearrange and rebuild itself to survive till it receives world wide recognition. And then reappear in the European Theater as one main economic force. Which suffered the least due to its isolation. This being a territory that is stated to be Israel best friend in the Mediterranean Sea.

About theorized European War I have my own thoughts (after years of research):

The collapse of the banking system would need a bail-in to survive using customers assets (money). Stealing directly from customer pockets. All cash available need to feed the system: forcing a cashless society. This should temporary disrupt economic operations for governments. The welfare system and subsidies would disappear for a period of time. Imagine citizens that need a monthly income “just to survive”. Being left alone during this transition time to readjust reality. Combine that with millions of migrants and refugees that need government funds in order to live. Without support they might switch to crime in order to survive. To all this mess you can add thousands of freedom-fighters from the middle-east. Taking profit of the conflict in order to raise up and fight in the west. To import their Islamic values deep within infidels countries. An attack on a nuclear facility would be ideal to trigger the next big war. With all of the above I can see the perfect storm to bring war to Europe again. No wonder why wealthy people are investing in bunkers in remote areas. Hoping to isolate themselves from the transition period.

Niall · 2017-11-03T13:11:21Z

The last time we had a Spanish Civil War, it was the prelude to a wider war in Europe. Isn't it curious how history tends to repeat itself? Maybe this is the crack in the concrete of the dam that will end with the flood - the dissolution of the European Union.

Good point. Or further back still: the War of the Spanish Succession led to an almighty conflict in Europe 300 years ago. Today's 'war of secession' may yet spark something similarly serious, if only economically rather than militarily.

This Catalan movement and others like Scotland and Venezia have, of course, been prompted by the general corruption of Governments all over the world, which suck oceans of money-milk from the titties of the banking system, and care not one stinking flea-turd for The People they are supposed to represent. The People can go f**k themselves, for all their "elected representatives" care. The People know this now quite well, and are mad as hell, and will not take it any more.

What interesting times we live in.

Indeed.

Lemuel Gulliver · 2017-11-03T17:12:40Z

jordifs Thanks for your comments about the banking system. Please spend 40 minutes to watch this video: [Link] about that very subject. The narrator is not very skillful, and has a somewhat monotone voice, but please look past that, at what he has to say. He says that basically, we are on the very brink of the economic collapse you speak of. Whether you believe it or not is your personal choice.

I have noticed on many occasions that the utterly corrupt and evil "Lords of the Universe" who rule over us DO have a certain ethical imperative, that somewhere, tucked away in some obscure corner where it is hard to find and interpret, they always tell us what they are going to do, before they do it. In their twisted morality, this lets them off the hook, if they warn their victims beforehand and the victims do nothing about it.

That being said, here is my personal speculative interpretation: When the dollar collapses and becomes worthless, which MAY be imminent, all the banks and financial institutions of the world will become insolvent. Most of them keep their "reserves" in fiat dollars, which have zero intrinsic value.

The destruction of (imaginary) money will be so immense that no government will be able to rescue the present system, and it will be allowed to fail. Bail-ins will mean that all depositors - ALL - will lose every penny they have in the bank or other fiscal account, all depositors, from individuals to corporations to trusts and every other type of entity. Now, something must be done. Commerce and human transactions require some sort of money as a medium of exchange. We cannot do without money.

What will then be offered to the public is a restitution of their former money in the form of a new virtual currency - an Americoin or a Eurocoin or a Worldcoin, similar to Bitcoin, which will again be conjured out of thin air and allocated to individuals and entities according to their former assets. However, the individual will be told that for security, this money will be encoded in a chip implanted in your hand, and you will receive your wages in your chip and pay for your purchases by waving your hand over an electronic reader. Cash and checks (cheques) will no longer exist. Nobody will be FORCED to get their chip, it will be entirely voluntary, except that without it you cannot function in normal society, and without it your former savings will be gone forever.

The beauty of this from the point of view of the One World Government is that the chip allows you to be tracked everywhere you go, and anyone creating or advocating political dissent can have their chip turned off at will, at which point they cannot even buy food to eat.

IF this is the plan, as I personally suspect, there is nothing we can do about it. One cannot stockpile a lifetime's worth of food and everyday necessities to sustain one without their chip. We will all get our chip, except those who can live in obscurity off the grid in some forest, growing their own food, generating their own power, and making their own clothes.

The only thing which could prevent this scenario is a natural catastrophe of such proportions that the entire present system collapses, not just the financial system. Psychics keep on predicting such disasters, over and over again with dates certain, and those dates come and go, again and again, without the end of the world coming to pass. In conclusion, after you watch that video, we may (OR may not) be about to experience a radical change in all our lives. Only time will tell.

Lemuel Gulliver · 2017-11-03T17:37:42Z

Niall Thank you for the kind words. Please check out my further comments below. I don't pretend to be a psychic, as some do, just an incorrigible cynic with a deep suspicion that we are being manipulated all the time, day in and day out, by people with not a shred of compassion or morality in their souls.

jordifs · 2017-11-03T07:31:06Z

I'm in Catalonia. I sensed confusion. Tension was lowering. The independence movement lost. The bubble was clearly deflating. Everyone focused on next elections. Now tension raise again. It is like a force fueling the conflict to ensure all affected are constantly hyped up. To me it seems not normal. Even a Spanish ex-Judge Supreme Court told yesterday in TV that Europe is asking for law and: dialog. Which is completely missing. I expect more to come as this spectacle is not over yet.

Lemuel Gulliver · 2017-11-03T17:34:57Z

jordifs You may have heard of the Hegelian Dialectic. This is a fancy way in English of saying, when the Rulers want a change of some sort, they first create a problem, then when the masses clamor for a solution to the artificially created problem, the Rulers offer the solution they wanted all along.

I personally believe that the Rulers are extremely smart, very intelligent, and they are several steps ahead of the rest of us, manipulating us by apparently spontaneous events, which are carefully crafted to cause us to clamor for the solution they will offer us. The 9-11 operation in America was one such event, which has led to a great increase in control and surveillance of the population, not just in America, but all over the world. On every airplane now you cannot bring liquids on board, and you are subject to search and surveillance, and there is nothing you can do about it if you want to catch your flight.

Terrorist operations of a highly suspicious character have become common, and every time the public becomes complacent, another one happens in some chosen country. It is beyond doubt that the US, Britain, France, Turkey, and several Gulf States created, trained, funded, and armed ISIS, which is about to spread out from their defeat in Syria (thanks to Russia) and attack us all everywhere. Nothing could give the Rulers more satisfaction.

As to Catalonia: It is beyond question that the movement in the 1950's among a small group of a couple of dozen European politicians, to create the European Common Market, then the European Union, which cost money for literature, speaking platforms, offices, staff, and so on, was funded by the CIA and the Rockefeller Foundation. The idea was a United States of Europe, like those of America, along the road to a One World Government, a Union of Unions. The United Nations was the first attempt in 1944, which has become unworkable due to the proliferation of countries, and has been tossed aside, in fact if not in name. It is used when it is useful, the rest of the time it is ignored.

Now, perhaps, the European Union is being tossed aside in its turn. National Identity has proven too persistent and cannot be overcome. As I described above, POSSIBLY, (I do not know and nobody else does,) the global economic collapse is being set up so that the One World Order can be accomplished by monetary union instead of political union.

Does this make sense to you?

Niall · 2017-11-03T22:05:40Z

You may have heard of the Hegelian Dialectic. This is a fancy way in English of saying, when the Rulers want a change of some sort, they first create a problem, then when the masses clamor for a solution to the artificially created problem, the Rulers offer the solution they wanted all along.

I don't doubt that such cunning is prevalent - though not necessarily ubiquitous - among elites. However, I would point out that the 'Hegelian Dialectic', as promulgated online, is largely a canard. Hegel was merely describing a structural theory of history; he wasn't contributing to a 'how to' for the attainment of power, a la Machiavelli, for example.

I personally believe that the Rulers are extremely smart, very intelligent, and they are several steps ahead of the rest of us, manipulating us by apparently spontaneous events, which are carefully crafted to cause us to clamor for the solution they will offer us.

Yes, in some cases and to some degree, but they're not all-knowing and not they're all-powerful. They're reacting, for the most part, like the rest of us, to forces that work through all and everything. Where their intelligence kicks in is right after some event, which they may have had a hand in, but the results/fall-out of which usually engulfs them too, and which they subsequently (and masterfully, usually) weave into the meta-narrative, thus synthesizing the new with the old and keeping the herd in synch with the status quo. That's what Hegel was getting at, I think.

I say "masterfully, usually" because lately, as we've seen, they've been really struggling to synthesize all their narratives into one cohesive whole.

The 9-11 operation in America was one such event, which has led to a great increase in control and surveillance of the population, not just in America, but all over the world. On every airplane now you cannot bring liquids on board, and you are subject to search and surveillance, and there is nothing you can do about it if you want to catch your flight.

Yes, as if it were planned that way from the outset. But that's only an illusion generated by the incessant busy-body narrative-writers making it all 'blend'. They're running around proactively filling in gaping holes in awareness by, for the most part, making sh*t up!

Terrorist operations of a highly suspicious character have become common, and every time the public becomes complacent, another one happens in some chosen country. It is beyond doubt that the US, Britain, France, Turkey, and several Gulf States created, trained, funded, and armed ISIS, which is about to spread out from their defeat in Syria (thanks to Russia) and attack us all everywhere. Nothing could give the Rulers more satisfaction.

Probably, but did they know it would all happen this way when they funded the mujahideen back in the 70s? Or when they wrote their PNAC docs in the 90s? No, they're reacting from one thing to the next. The 'house always wins' not because the 'house always plays its cards right' but because the house was the only one playing cards until Putin joined in (officially, in 2013, when he blocked the NATO bombing of Syria)! Before that, they could make as many mistakes as they wanted (and pass them off as 'planned to perfection' too).

As to Catalonia: It is beyond question that the movement in the 1950's among a small group of a couple of dozen European politicians, to create the European Common Market, then the European Union, which cost money for literature, speaking platforms, offices, staff, and so on, was funded by the CIA and the Rockefeller Foundation. The idea was a United States of Europe, like those of America, along the road to a One World Government, a Union of Unions. The United Nations was the first attempt in 1944, which has become unworkable due to the proliferation of countries, and has been tossed aside, in fact if not in name. It is used when it is useful, the rest of the time it is ignored.

The UN is not the 'NWO' they warned us about; that's the Anglo-Zio-American empire, which, for the most part, fears the UN - because it fears actual democracy - and thus keeps it substantially redundant. Putin and Xi are convinced the UN is not only viable, but will feature significantly in the new multipolar order.

Similarly with the EU; it remains 'in embryo', an American 'thing', not yet sovereign, but that doesn't mean it will never be.

Now, perhaps, the European Union is being tossed aside in its turn. National Identity has proven too persistent and cannot be overcome. As I described above, POSSIBLY, (I do not know and nobody else does,) the global economic collapse is being set up so that the One World Order can be accomplished by monetary union instead of political union.

Does this make sense to you?

The Catalonian independence movement signifies impending or eventual dissolution of the EU?

Perhaps, but I think that if things go that way, then it'll be due to non-linear knock-on effects, i.e. the PTB don't want the EU to break up. They're not planning for that to happen, though we would perhaps see them react to that scenario as if "we got this, 'twas always meant to be!"

That's the bottom line that gives them their power: the shared belief of the masses that their rulers are all-knowing and all-powerful.

They aren't. The Emperors are butt-naked!

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