Uganda: Museveni calls gay people 'deviants' as anti-LGBT bill advances

codis I agree. What you do behind the wall of your house is up to you. If you harm someone, or mess with kids, then a life sentence will be good.

balboa schwartz

Straight up reality is that homosexuals can't reproduce, and are therefore a dead end as far as the species continuing goes.

That is not quite correct.

They can, and often did when they were forced into "straight" marriages by conventions of society, a century or more ago. But they usually don't want to.

Though I still think they are deviant and absurdities, and should never be encouraged or even privileged by law.

... and leave the kids alone!

Now that is a different matter.

I have zero sympathy for child rapists.

codis Recruiting children into their twisted cult too, through propaganda and grooming.

Winternights3 True that WN

Lemuel Gulliver

The fact is that homosexual behavior exists, and has always existed, in almost every animal species down through the millennia. Cows, dogs, sheep, goats, mice, monkeys, birds,

Thats bs. Animals dont do homo sexual acts. Bulls and sheep males do dominate riding no penetration. Fag propaganda.

Monkeys? Bo bos? They're deviants too.

Jason It is NOT bs. I have the article in my files. Go argue your skepticism with 40 years of research by over 65 researchers funded by various governments, not with me. It happens to be a fact, whether you want to believe it or not. I myself many years ago saw a homosexual male dog which was harassing other male dogs sexually, and getting itself growled and snapped at.

Lemuel Gulliver So you've seen animals practicing sex for pleasure with your own eyes?

I doubt it.

Jason Of course. If you are over 5 years old, you have seen dogs having sex. Unless you live in a community where all the dogs are confined indoors and none of them run around the streets, in which case I suppose you may have never seen what boy dogs and lady dogs do. Trust me, all mammals do it the same way.

Lemuel Gulliver

You probably believe the c02 nonsense to then by the experts?

Lemuel Gulliver Dogs having sex? Are you insane. Bitch and dog yes. Not 2 bitches in 69 or dogs penetration ass. Shez there was a fag pushing that shit in here last year. Ffs.

Jason Of course not. IMHO, any "global warming" is caused by weakening of the Earth's magnetic field and consequent penetration of the sun's cosmic rays down to the surface. In fact, all the planets in the solar system are experiencing warming, and none of them has people on them driving cars or using propane stoves. Or cows farting either.

Jason If you are arguing semantics, as in female dogs having to be called bitches and only male dogs being called dogs, then your arguments are simple nit-picking. Try again.

Lemuel Gulliver

... what happens is that the brain becomes hard wired incongruously with the already determined physical characteristics , and homosexuality ensues. IT IS NOT A CHOICE.

I basically knew that. And I don't condemn them for being homosexuals.

I only fiercely disagree with a public display, glorification and equalisation with natural sexuality. Especially not at the cost all the one's who disagree.

The fact is that homosexual behavior exists, and has always existed, in almost every animal species down through the millennia. Cows, dogs, sheep, goats, mice, monkeys, birds, and humans - all have traditionally exhibited homosexual behavior.

At least these species exhibited behaviour that was interpreted as "homosexuality". I had often watched an all-females cow herd of our local cooperative, with one cow occasionally "jumping at the back" of another cow, somewhat similiar to the act. This used to happen several times a day between several individuals, and I would not interpret that as "homosexual behavior". Just saying.

As another caveat - within many species, only a few selected males procreate. I think humans fell into that category at some point in time.

Thus the emergence of religion with the institution of marriage (and suppression of this selective process) seems to me an important factor in the emergence of civilisation.

codis Correct. We cannot question animals as to their impulses and feelings, we can only observe their behavior. And animals have varying degrees of rationality, exhibited as deliberation and restraint of their natural impulses, humans being the most complex example. Dr. Money reported that in primates, our nearest relatives, injecting hormones into the left or right hemispheres of the fetal brain had varying effects depending on the socialization of the baby: Juveniles that were treated with hormones in utero but were well socialized in primate groups exhibited less overt homosexual behavior then those which were raised in isolation.

The same is seen in humans: Many homosexuals get married and procreate, but later revert to their innate inclinations. So, societal discrimination and taboos have the contrary effect, of perpetuating the genes which give rise to one side of the homosexual recipe, the other side being hormonal disturbances in utero. Those disturbances may be caused by stress or environmental contamination, e.g. by organic chemicals arising in the environment during the third trimester, which mimic estrogen or testosterone in the endocrine system.

There are 70,000+ chemicals that have been invented in the lab since WWII which have never been tested for their effects on the human brain and body. Very few in fact are tested at all. We live in a chemical soup, in household cleaners, fabrics, pesticides, weed killers, paints, plastics, detergents, and thousands more, so it is highly likely that any increase in the incidence of sexual dysphoria that is happening is due to contaminants in our environment. It is well documented that sperm counts in male semen has decreased dramatically, while homosexuality seems to have increased - it is hard to determine if such an increase is real, or only the result of societal acceptance.

It is sad to reflect that our pursuit of comfort and convenience, and the corporate pursuit of profit, may actually and in truth be killing us off as a species.

Lemuel Gulliver

So, societal discrimination and taboos have the contrary effect, of perpetuating the genes which give rise to one side of the homosexual recipe, ...

Just as an neutral statement, I have never seen any factual/scientific proof of that. I mean, that homosexuality is hereditable.

And judged by the sorrow state what is called "science" nowadays, I don't expect a honest and truthful answer ...

codis Has nobody read what I wrote? The scientific proof is there. If you doubt it, go get a medical degree, find some funding, and do your own research, if that is what it takes to convince you. I doubt that 65 different research bodies over the span of 45 years managed to conspire to pull the wool over the eyes of the world.

Have you ever seen the Eiffel Tower? I have not. How do we know it exists? Perhaps 80 million tourists have all conspired to deceive you and me? I don't think they would consider us important enough to be worth the effort. So I would believe them. And I would believe the researchers whose findings and experimental results were collected together in the article I quoted.

As for the hereditability, research has been done into identical twins, and the influence of genetics on behavior is profound. But that is a whole other topic.

Lemuel Gulliver I like that my name came second

I will not try to discredit your post, I'm sure it summarises the past decade's of scientific involvement and understanding adequately and leaves one's feelings on the matter exposed.

For all said and done, why has there been an explosion of sexual misdirection within the last few decades, surely closets and the coming out of them cannot be to blame, Quentin Crisp did so eloquently portray the social stigma of the day when said Puff ventured beyond the closet doors.

I remember Tony Blackburn telling a joke about homosexuality way back when and closing his joke by saying he'd be leaving the country before it came compulsory, all suggesting that homosexuality was NOT so prolific as it is today.

The wonderful thing about science is that it is a LAW unto itself and is impart responsible for moulding of public attitudes, very fitting when it could be seen as the culprit that was responsible for the chaos and sexual confusion one witnesses today, from the food one eats to the packaging it comes delivered in, all have the ability in which to steer future sexual orientation.

As you made one's feelings known, so shall I.

Today's versions of society are the responsibility of meddling Frankenstein's, who for what ever reason have an agenda to eradicate the family and destroy any assemblance of normality ( 2 sexes ) by genetically modifying anything and everything associated with the human food chain.

I doubt natural selection comes anywhere near it, Darwin would turn in his grave.

regards Winternights3

Winternights3 I am with you completely. I have said, above and elsewhere, that the pendulum of social justice has swung way too far, and the mutilation and sexual indoctrination of children, and the ramming of a perverse agenda down the throats of those who have no dogs in this fight, are an abomination.

As to why this whole phenomenon has increased so dramatically, I suggested above that there are endocrine disruptions from our current chemical poisoning by industry. I have also suggested elsewhere that there is a cultural genocide being perpetrated by Zionists bent on the destruction of Christianity and Christian civilization. (They have been pursuing this ever since Jesus attacked the privileges and brainwashing of the Pharisees, today known as Rabbis.) There is also, IMHO, a divide-and-rule program being pushed by the Corporatocracy - as long as we are fighting each other, we will not have the energy to fight them, our real enemies. And finally, there is the dissension foisted upon us by the political class. Basically, all of them want the slaves fighting each other, for whatever reasons can be manufactured, and the rabble roused to passion. Misdirection, fake issues, terror, fear, anger, and greed - all weapons being wielded against us by highly skilled practitioners.

Lemuel Gulliver Thank you for the time and effort you have put into this research. I, personally, have never had a problem with homosexuality, knowing it has been observed throughout our entire history. My problem has always been with any human who forces their desires or deviances on any other human, be it rape, child molestation, mutilation, mental shock, etc.

Lemuel Gulliver I read what you wrote and I don't disagree, they did studies, they found out things etc. Fact is, they are a minority and no special laws should exist for any minority. When you do this, you corrupt the ideal of what works for the masses.

Black, white, brown, red, yellow, gay or straight, male or female all laws apply equally to everyone (except the elite).

I know people who are gay, mostly through my daughter's friends. I don't hate them, I treat them as I would treat anyone else, but I won't be a part of any of their discussions for rights as they don't need them, they have the same as me, why should they get anything special. Yes, these people know they are gay, they were not taught it, like today. Procreation should be taught, being gay, no.

I'm against gay marriage and for gay union or gay wedlock. Marriage is between man and woman. The fact that they allowed them to be recognized as marriage, has corrupted the whole ideal of what marriage actually is.

Like your studies point out, it's a deviation from the norm, corrupted genetics. It's no wonder today that so many more people are gay, than 30 years ago, all the toxic chemicals in our food system, over vaccination of children from birth, the PILL (which ramps up female hormones tricking the body into thinking it's pregnant), the list goes on. As the studies point out, certain things happen at certain stages of the babies development and anyone of these toxic substances just add to the corruption, the derivation from the true norm.

So deviants they are and they can participate in society like everyone else. Hitting, killing someone because they are gay, doesn't need a special law, as that's already covered. Does it make the crime any worse if they are? No, it's still a crime. No different than any other callus crime committed against any random stranger.

Was gayness around during creation? Nope, but it was around and has been around ever since our gene pool was corrupted and we have to live with that fact until our creator settles the issue.

Do I agree with what this leader is doing, nope. It's counter productive and good or bad, it's a special law created for this group. See what I'm saying?

In a free and open society, ALL are treated equally under the law. Unfortunately this does not exist because we believe the lies that there are gray areas. Phooey.

Been to any of their parades? It's an abomination. Why should they get to have a parade, let alone allowed to have a parade celebrating gayness? Where are all the Straight parades celebrating straightness? There aren't any, why, because it's stupid, childish and quite frankly not necessary. Gay people say they are normal, then they go and participate in these parades. That ain't normal behavior and I and most people don't care to see on our streets just how these people behave behind closed doors. That's their own business, they should keep it that way. But ever since we gave them an inch, they've tried to grab it all and now it's time to tell them to go ef off and suck it up like everyone else does. They've highjacked the rainbow for their purposes, knowing exactly what it means, not gayness, but GOD's covenant with US.

As for the animal kingdom, that's different. We are not part of the animal kingdom as everything on this earth is of it's own kind and just because we see, what we call deviant human behavior in humans, happening in the animal kingdom, doesn't mean they are gay. No one knows, not even the scientists/magicians. I know this for a fact simply because no animal in any of these studies were asked for input. Specifically why did you do it? All we can do is observe and make assumptions. But the fact that animals do do this sort of thing, does not make them gay, nor does it prove justification that it is okay to be gay in the human kingdom. All I see is that yeah, animals do it ( a few) humans do it (a few). So instead of scientists building cases to justify the existence of being gay, they should be saying how can we stop this from happening and make our genome more better, so people don't do this. After all, it's a dead end in the genome.

However, those pulling the strings see it the complete opposite way, lets promote it, justify it, make them all live it, just like they themselves do.

I'd rather see discourse on what humanity can do to fix our situation, so that there is less deviants, not more. That is what I believe is truly missing from all these discourses on gayness. Gay's, should be happy about this, simply because they know it's not normal and no one else should have to go through life with feelings like they have. I'm not into genetic manipulation, the kind where we do the manipulating to make a better human. That's playing GOD and has bad consequences written all over it. More needs to be done on prevention and less on actions to correct. You can't correct corruption with a pill, but you can prevent corruption through prevention.

A good start at prevention is for the rest of us to just let them be, just like you do with your neighbours and everyone else. A person is a person no matter what kind they are.

Do I care who is mating with who? Nope, unless money or politics is involve and my Spidey sense starts to tingle.

Lemuel Gulliver Thank you for compiling all those observations. I've watched enough National Geographic and read enough 'Nature' articles to confirm that for many primates at least, any hole will do. I am sure humanity has had to train itself away from that practice for health reasons. Much of what is in our religious texts can be construed as health advice.

That was then. We've been dumping hormones and hormone altering chemicals into our waste water system for generations. Out food supply is filled with hormones of all description. Our vaccine schedule for children has tripled. Now we have 'Wokeism' as a result, plus we have the Gates/mRNA injections to finish off the human race.

There really isn't a safe space left on Earth to escape this crap, is there?