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Russian President Vladimir Putin said that he and his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan have discussed the possibility of continuing cooperation in the defence industry, including on both fourth-generation Su-35 and fifth-generation Su-57 jets. He added that Turkey is interested in not only buying, but also jointly producing military products.
The Turkish president has confirmed this and said that Ankara wants to continue cooperating with Moscow in the defence industry, including on the production of jets.
The presidents of the two countries met at Russia's MAKS-2019 air show that took place in the Moscow suburbs on 27 August. Russia's cutting edge fifth-generation Su-57 stealth fighter jets were featured during this year's show.
On Tensions in Syria's Idlib
Putin and Erdogan also discussed the situation in Syria, including recent developments in Idlib Province. The Turkish president praised the agreements on the de-escalation zone, but said that their implementation was complicated due to the Syrian military's actions.
"In regard to the Sochi memorandum, which we signed last September, we were able to achieve relative stability. But, unfortunately, since May, the [Syrian] government troops have been bombing civilian facilities, which violated this relative calm. Unfortunately, this complicates the implementation of the Sochi memorandum", he said.
He further added that the latest developments in Idlib have started endangering Turkish troops, deployed in Syria without Damascus' consent. Erdogan noted that "all relevant steps" will be taken to avert danger to the country's forces.
President Vladimir Putin said that Russia shares Turkish concerns about the situation in Idlib, but is mostly worried about terrorist activities in this region.
"Terrorists continue to shell the positions of the Syrian government troops, try to attack Russian military facilities. The de-escalation zone should not serve as a refuge for militants and, moreover, a springboard for new attack", Putin said.
Responding to ongoing shelling, coming from the territory of Idlib, the Syrian Army earlier in August launched an offensive and secured control over the town of Khan Sheikhoun and number of other settlements in Idlib and the north of Hama Province.
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Turkey is still playing a double-game in northern Syria, but even Russian-Syrian airstrikes against its operatives doesn't seem to impact its long-term vision: quadrupling Russian-Turkish trade turnover to $100 billion, and settling payments in their respective national currencies...
Reader Comments
Turkey military invaded Cyprus (1974). To save the Turkish population suffering from genocide. In that event US refused a request by Turkey, to provide military hardware. Maybe punished as reaction to that invasion. Apparently for Turkey that was the spark to kickoff military research and development. To be fully independent from the US and NATO. Cash has been invested for decades. Now Turkey has hardware, with a design remarkable similar to NATO. To my knowledge, there is still no advanced aircraft systems in Turkey (they seeked to buy them elsewhere).
When Russia sold aircraft stuff to China, China apparently copied design and some technology. So Russia is now reluctant to sell some very advanced stuff. Knowing that it can be copied. Now consider Turkey is still within NATO. See the madness of selling to NATO hardware that can be used offensively, and reverse engineered. Even if Turkey intention is to keep the hardware away from other NATO members. There is the provability, that Turkey military industry does not want to just build advanced aircraft (4th and 5th generation). They also wish to disassemble for reverse engineering purposes. So eventually one day Turkey will be independent to build and maintain a proper AirForce. Similar idea being conducted by Iran. Which has an initial working prototype of a jet fighter.
The summary: Russia need to keep Turkey close. But selling hardware with a proposed joint venture to build them within Turkey, is very dangerous. It is the spark needed for Turkey to boost research and development in the aircraft industry. This collaboration only makes sense if Russia has something tangible to win. Maybe hope to control the technology transfer, which is difficult. Maybe it will break NATO, if Turkey leaves. Important to know Turkey in NATO, provides the second largest army, in the amount of troops. Setting free such a large chunk of NATO, and removing NATO from Turkey land, is a very big loss for NATO. Which loose an important vector of attack towards Russia.
See it is also symbolic: the decline of the West, NATO and the US is now effective. A moral defeat which might serve to sponsor other countries to contemplate the option to leave NATO. And align themselves towards a New Multi-Polar World Order.
Excellent analysis; at least as best I can tell from my quite limited knowledge of military issues, both strategic and tactical, .... well, I just don't know about it. I guess I worry enough about other stuff; I'll leave this one to you.
Thanks.
R.C.






As to Putin, and the concerns that there have been attempts on his flights (such as the theory that MH17 was hoping to shoot down Putin's plane, plus another theory, I think; I don't know the details - I certainly trust his Secret Service to protect him better than, say, the SS did for JFK on 11/22/63. I likewise hope they have parachutes, etc. Whether it ever was attempted or not, Putin didn't need any such 'scared into seeing the light' inspiration to put his country first.
Now if only America would put America first; and forget about our saving Israel's ass and paying them trillions? They've got beau coup nukes; what do they need our money for, on top of that? To kill more ghettoized Palestinians? (Who are, contra Ashkenazim, a true 'Semitic People/Race'?)
R.C.