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"The story by Axios that President Trump wanted to blow up large hurricanes with nuclear weapons prior to reaching shore is ridiculous. I never said this. Just more FAKE NEWS!" Trump tweeted on Monday.
Citing unnamed government sources, Axios reported that Trump had urged senior Homeland Security and national security officials to explore the idea of using nuclear weapons to stop hurricanes from hitting the US.
The suggestion was never seriously considered as a possible policy, the outlet said.
The White House declined to comment on the story. The possibility of using nukes to decimate hurricanes is not a concept that originated with Trump. The proposal dates back decades, but has been dismissed by the scientific community as a bad idea.
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15 hours ago (Edited) The strongest Hurricanes grow and sustain only when 5 essential ingredients are present: (1) Very low wind-shear (2) Very high humidity (3) Very high vorticity. Anticlockwise rotation in the lower atmosphere and clockwise in upper atmosphere, both coinciding vertically (stacked) (4) Very high convective structural symmetry which creates and allows a strong symmetrical radial upper-air 'outflow' above the central dense overcast clouds. (5) High Sea Surface Temperature >27C All five of these ingredient must be present, and remain present, for the storm to form, strengthen and then to remain strong. If any one of these declines the storm will weaken, hence why the strongest hurricanes are the most rare, as this ideal combination rarely lasts for long and the storm weakens out and loses symmetry and structure. Only number (4) would be partially (and temporarily) disrupted by a hydrogen bomb detonating in the inner eyewall's banded storms. But if it was detonated in the open-eye area itself the added extreme uplift will likewise create extreme low-pressure within the central open core at sea level, which would in fact make the inner-core winds rapidly accelerate and gain strength without disrupting the structure much, if at all. So detonating inside the open eye is an extremely bad idea. The problem with trying to disrupt the middle inner-core storm rain banding with a nuke is that it would self-heal within a few minutes. There's much more stored energy within a major cyclonic storm than the biggest hydrogen bomb can release. But you might alternatively try using about 10 of them, spread equidistantly around the inner core, i.e. detonating within about 5 to 10 km radial distance out from the inner eye-wall and detonated at about 4,000 ft altitude. This is so that fireballs themselves won't actually touch the ocean's surface, but it's low enough so that it can lift the base of the storm convection and its moisture away from the water. Ten big bombs doing that would basically lift a significant part of the inner-core's storm banding and the winds away from the ocean's surface and thermally launch much of the storm's core moisture into the stratosphere. Where it will rapidly cool and condense into a staggering quantity of ice within minutes. i.e. GIGANTIC HIGHLY-RADIOACTIVE HAIL STONES WOULD RESULT Much of this would then fall back to the ocean over the course of about the following 15 minutes. Thereby freezing much of the humidity that was actually feeding the deep convection cells that were spinning around the eye. Thus the wind speed will drop and the organised symmetry will decline as sudden extreme vertical wind shear destroys the core's structure. In fact you could offset and stagger the simultaneous detonation locations to amplify the structural disruptions and resulting self-disorder to prior high wind flow symmetry (make it go chaotic on the meso-scale). Also, as the ice (and associated extreme rain intensity) falls back towards the ocean in an epic storm core collapse of falling cold air, it will create the mother of all macro-burst down-drafts, and when that extreme chilled cold vertical wind-fall strikes the ocean it is going to fan out (violently) and blow radially outwards away from the storms' core, and most likely create a blizzard and snow front within the surrounding tropical air boundary, near to sea level. And that will almost certainly disrupt the entire inner-core structure. Hurricanes are humid warm-core storms and the result of this ice driven down-draft is the opposite, as the mass of falling ice and intense (radioactive) rain will drag down dry and super-frigid air from the stratosphere and upper troposphere. The winds would still be extreme however, probably even stronger (for about half an hour maybe), but it would be a shearing wind flow which destroys the storms prior neat inflow and outflow symmetry. i.e. It will no longer be a Hurricane, but it will be a massive storm, but has lost its tropical structure and strength. At a guess I'd say this could severely disrupt the storm's structure and organisation. But it may reform in 6 to 12 hours, but probably at Cat 1 to 2, rather than Cat 4 to 5. But if the prior conditions were right for a Cat 5 they are also right for rapid re-intensification. So you'd need to do this no less then 12 hours from landfall, and no closer than about 6 hours from landfall. Which should also allow some time for most of the Cat-5 storm surge level to dissipate before landfall. It's a pity about the ten or so major shock waves that would be put into the water column over a large area, and the resulting highly radioactive surface slushy from the hail though. You are basically putting the damage elsewhere, other than the land, rather than eliminating damage. The biology is going to take a hit, but it always does from a hurricane regardless. The only question is, will it be worse? What is for sure is a reforming hurricane will dissipate and dilute the radiation faster than anything else on earth. It might be worth trying as an experiment in the mid-Atlantic on a Cat 4 to 5 storm to see if the storm really does lose its symmetry and structure for around 12 to 24 hours - thus dropping it down to a reforming Cat 1 storm. If it did do that it might be worth putting to use while it's still 6 to 12 hours from landfall, if it were headed toward a major population area, at near to a high-tide. The radiation radially spread on upper level winds would be much less than is supposed as stratospheric fallout dissipates over much larger areas than from smaller detonations, and the remnant regional vorticity would dilute that initial intense central fallout quickly, before the storm gets to land. If the mid-ocean experiment worked such a use to stop a city like Galveston from being trashed by a Cat 5's projected direct-hit could very well be worth doing in an emergency, to take it down to a much lower level of organisation and intensity. God knows what it would do to the rainfall rates though. A single Trident D5 missile can simultaneously detonate 14 x W88 of half a megaton each thermonuclear warheads. This probably would severely disrupt and thus weaken the core structure until landfall (say 8 hours later). As mad as it sounds it actually might work and 'save' a city from the full-force of a Cat 4 or 5.





