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Do they really think that Stalin’s, or Mao’s governments were what Marx envisioned? I seriously doubt that's what he hoped for, and I note I only see you, Niall, providing a single quote from Marx . (I doubt any have read any of his original works, as I detect that you have.) As I best recall, he was just a stepping stone following on the ideas of the ‘utilitarians’/ Jeremy Bentham, (the proverbial “greatest good for the greatest number” - with little to no significant concern for the rights of the individual); on the route to sundry modern socioeconomic philosophies.R.C.
It seems that they’ve forgotten how to properly and logically approach historical analysis, which I’ve seen them display on other, less ‘hot-button’ topics. Logical analysis should apply consistently, even moreso on emotionally charged topics, and that requires an ongoing awareness of the HUGE differences between then and NOW.
As I noted above, “ I am confident that what (Marx) wrote (like what Machiavelli wrote; or Christ said, et al) has been contorted and distorted by ever changing and ever more modern usages/misinterpretations and motives both overt, and ulterior." The commenters, infra, are generally playing long-era armchair quarterbacks/displaying 20/20 hindsight, (easy but worthless and illogical); and concurrently expectingChrist,oops, Marx, to have had supernatural 20/20 foresight- an impossible expectation - and to have been able to then know what might be done in his name long after he was gone.
(Such approaches remind me of the idiot P.C. professor who got a lot of press when he condemned Conrad as a 'racist.' Argh!)
Grave of Karl Marx smashed with hammerI'm soooo sad to hear this. His worshipping diciples surely left a lasting impression - with millions murdered.
Proponents of his work include figures within the UK Labour Party. Leader Jeremy Corbyn has described the revolutionary socialist as a "great economist," while Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell says there is "a lot to learn" from Marx's seminal work, 'Das Kapital'.I'm even more sad to hear that.
If I ever do, I will probably disagree; but, then again, there's a bit of J.S. Mill I disagree with. The closest to my way of thinking was Thomas Paine*, who, at his death, almost no one attended his funeral as he had been press-demonized for his logical 'Deistic' arguments analogizing his doubts about the whole 'Christ resurrection' story to that of 'doubting' Thomas. He claimed that he, like Thomas, had the right to make up his own mind on it.
For that he was then labeled 'The Anti Christ' by mobs of idiot AmeriKants. (Sheeple long predate that word.)
R.C.
*I acknowledge that he was summing up the 'greatest hits' of Voltaire, Rousseau, Mill, et al., but he did so in a distinctly 'American' way - and that was despite his being born an Englishman,** etc.
** If that's the wrong word, please advise.
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