© REUTERS/Dado Ruvic/IllustrationSilhouettes of laptop and mobile device users are seen next to a screen projection of Google logo in this picture illustration taken March 28, 2018.
Three current employees and two others helping to organize the group said it formed last fall. They said that among its proposals, which have not previously been reported in detail, are that Google should tighten rules of conduct for internal forums and hire staff to enforce them.
They said they want to stop inflammatory conversations and personal attacks on the forums and see punishment for individuals who regularly derail discussions or leak conversations. The group also wants Google to list rights and responsibilities for accusers, defendants, managers and investigators in human resources cases.
The group also desires greater protection for employees targeted by what it views as insincere complaints to human resources used as a bullying tactic and goading.
Comment: Who decides what are "Rights", "Personal attack", "bullying" or "goading"?
The organizers said Google should be more attuned to when people seeking to stir animosity or expressing views opposite the company's stated values try to take over discussions about race, gender and other sensitive subjects.
Comment: Does Google follow its "stated" values? Are these "stated" goals are in line with the welfare of the society?
The group is speaking informally to mid-level executives, hoping they will take up the cause with senior management, organizers said. Self-described conservatives at Google have also raised their own concerns.
The split among Google employees reflects growing polarization across the United States since President Donald Trump was elected. Other companies and industries have also been hit by corporate scandals involving diversity and harassment.
Google counts on open dialogue to strengthen products and morale, and prides itself on fostering an environment in which subordinates can challenge managers. Debates about politics and science flow freely on its private, online discussion boards.
But discussions have become more hostile and abusive since an engineer on internal forums last summer wrote that women are biologically unsuited for technology jobs. Google fired the engineer, James Damore, for perpetuating stereotypes, sparking more heated conversations.
Comment: In short, they are creating legal protection for the company to shut down the differing opinions.
Organizers of the campaign said at least 100 employees have taken part in private and online discussions of potential fixes. But they also said Google may wait to change policies until recent lawsuits filed by Damore and others are resolved.
"My coworkers and I are having our right to a safe workplace being endangered," said staff site reliability engineer Liz Fong-Jones, one of the lead organizers. She said employees experience stress and fear of physical reprisal when internal conversations are leaked to media, sometimes with writers' names.
Google spokeswoman Gina Scigliano declined to comment on the proposals but said the company already limits what employees can say in the workplace.
"We enforce strong policies and work with affected employees to ensure everyone can do their work free of harassment, discrimination and bullying," she said.
Matt Stone, a software engineer at Google who was on disability leave last year, said he returned in January to an "alien environment" in which protections for disabled and transgender individuals were up for debate.
"We've been taken under siege in a war we didn't even know we're in, a war we didn't even want," he said. "We want it to stop."
Two other employees said they have reduced posting on company forums out of fear of becoming bigger targets. It is not clear if the internal harassment debate has affected recruitment and retention of employees.
Fong-Jones said Google organizers nationwide have received leadership training and advice on media strategy and labor rights from online petition service Coworker.org, which has helped employees at Starbucks Corp and other companies lobby around workplace issues.
MUTUAL CONCERNS
Self-described conservatives at Google, who often clash with the organizing group, have made their own proposals, including asking the company to clarify forum rules and protect employees from retaliation, according to a wrongful termination lawsuit Damore filed in January.
Damore's attorney, Harmeet Dhillon, said she spoke with current Google employees and believed an internal "witch hunt" targeting workers expressing unpopular viewpoints grew aggressive following Trump's election in 2016.
Comment: The election of Donald Trump as US president had created polarization in US society due to Deep state and their Media effort. It is reasonable to assume Google employees are also divided in their views. By these measures, does Google trying to need to enforce its political view on its employees?
"The reaction to Damore's memo was not for its opponents to engage in dialogue or reason with him, but rather to leak his memo, attack him personally, and work to get him threatened and fired- casually, unhesitatingly, maliciously," Dhillon said by email.
Reporting by Paresh Dave; Editing by Peter Henderson, Jonathan Weber and David Gregorio
Organizations, corporations and so-called governments (deep states?) are all occult corruptions or perversions of community. I (nedlud) have 'went on at length' about this, at Sott, before. Just like I have ranted against technology, at length, before. I must be nuts, huh? A real kook. Technology is good. And organizations, corporations and governments exist to assure of that essential truth and to assist in maintaining and properly 'distributing' that truth. Technology is good. Much more good, than bad. Waaaaaaaaaaay more. Way, way, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more.
Whatever.
Nonetheless, if I ranting madman that I am, might again, insist:
None of these named things, these organizations, corporations and so-called governments do the work of 'the community', which is sharing and caring (loving, life enhancing). All are designed to do one thing: Create/maintain an imbalance of wealth and power/control. These organizations, corporations and so-called governments do this through outrageous theft, constant deceit (mind-manipulation) and long term managed and stylized (ie., made 'popular', again: mind manipulation/control!) war and genocide/homicide. They create, allow and sustain and empower an elite technologically obsessed core of humanity while making slaves (and corpses) out of all the rest of humanity. As well as other forms of life. Slaves and corpses. Slaves and corpses. Slaves and corpses. There is no sharing and there is no caring. There is a lot of lying. There is a lot of killing. And there is a HUGE profit (greed) motive....
BIG.
BIG.
BIG.
Did I -ummm- mention slaves and corpses?
Slaves and corpses, and: Some very very special and very rich elite killing and murdering thieves--organizational heads, corporate officers and government (deep state?) officials....
Likewise, the vast 'metric' cities that now exist everywhere, are organizational corruptions of what was once correctly called 'the village'. Cities are too large (TOO BIG) to do anything other than prey upon and to pervert what was the 'village motive'. The 'village motive' (villages are communities) was actual commerce and trade, ie., actual authentic sharing and caring (aka mindfulness, loving), through recognition of what was fair and just and correct in each moment of time and place. Villages operated on intuition and feeling and recognition of the real wealth of diversity and real value of humanity and not just on a centrally controlled numbering system, or hierarchy of lust and power and technological obsession. So cities (as well as organizations, corporations and governments) are abominations and perversions, where the most ruthless and psychotic are in control at all times. They (the ruthless and psychotic) obtain control through occult means and they maintain control through occult means. They deepen and extend control through occult means. (Technology has become synonymous with occult.)
Everything today is technological and it is numbered and factored, and ordered and moved about under false and felonious pretensions, ie., the outrageous crimes and lies of organizations, corporations and governments. People, common people, everywhere are rewarded for doing, for buying evil and penalized, by this occult and technological hierarchy, for doing actual good and not buying evil.
How much lying and crime can you stand for? Are you psychotic too? ??
HAVE YOU GOT THIS (WHAT I HAVE JUST SAID ABOVE, AGAIN) DOWN?
Until (and if) this is realized and acted upon generally and consistently, and not just talked about in some vagrant and mindless way, where you make jokes about fools like nedlud and cast them out, there is no hope for what is commonly still described as, 'humanity'. Humanity, as such (as we exist now) is INDEED a sick, psychotic joke. We are numbers. Just stupid numbers, doing what we are ordered to do.
You (whoever you think you are) are registered as a number, you will be called upon and ordered about as a number (a statistic) and you will die (cease to exist here on earth) as a mere number, a fatal statistic in a psychotic numerological and totally occult scheme. Isn't that just special?
It makes some people very very very rich. This must be special. To be rich. To use and have and order about, a lot of technology. Eventually, one of those rich ones could be you?
NO. NO. NO. The joke (if you are still laughing and dreaming of being rich-er) is on you, you who have no idea of what is taking place (or you don't care) and no will (again, you simply do not care, enough) to resist it. You dream of being rich-er? Rich-er enough, at least, so you will be on the high side of the population curve, use the technology fashionably, AND BE A BIG ENOUGH SPECIAL ENOUGH NUMBER, like a ceo, or a top aide to a ceo, huh?
But, but, but....I do insist:
You AND YOUR BIG SPECIAL NUMBER have no will and no being (any authentic awareness), other than that which has been manufactured and thrust upon you in the present state of corruption, perversion and chronic evil psychosis.
THE GOOGOLPLEX.
THAT IS PRETTY BIG, A HUGE NUMBER, MORE THAN ANY OF US CAN IMAGINE.
THAT MUST MAKE IT RIGHT.
IT MUST BE RIGHT.
IT MUST BE OKAY.
WE SHOULD WANT IT.
WE SHOULD OBEY IT.
NEDLUD IS JUST A NUTCASE.
Have a nice day, everyone.
ned,
OUT
p.s. this comment is dedicated today especially, to the people in the 'organic farming community' and all the organizations and hierarchies therein. What a bunch of sick, lying and felonious fucks....
....meanwhile, our little organic farm is just about dead. My wife and I barely hang on. And so many little farms and little villages and communities are all gone. So many wildlife species, so many local natural environments and special individual farm animals and/or pets (domesticated), wiped out. There is no village, there is no community. ALL DESTROYED FOR A BIGGER BETTER NUMBER.
I am not a very happy man. But at least, I have some will to resist evil, even yet.
DO YOU?
ned,
out