Some Other Examples
Here are some other lesser-known examples of simultaneous discovery.
The Papoulis-Gerchberg Algorithm (PGA). The PGA is an ingenious method for recovering lost sections of functions that are bandlimited. (I describe the PGA in detail in my Handbook of Fourier Analysis.) The PGA was first reported by Athanasios Papoulis1 but was first published in an archival journal, independently, by Gerchberg2. The discoveries occurred independently of each other.
The Karhunen-Loève Theorem, independently discovered by Kari Karhunen3 and Michel Loève4, showed that certain random processes could be represented as an infinite linear combination of orthogonal functions, analogous to a Fourier series.
Non-Euclidean Geometry. Euclid published Elements circa 300 BC. His work wonderfully established Euclidean geometry. It was only in the first half of the 19th century that three men — J´anos Bolyai, Carl Friedrich Gauss, and Nikolai Lobachevsky, independently discovered non-Euclidean geometry. Jenkovszky et al.5 note: "The striking coincidence of independent discoveries... after more than two thousand years of stagnation, may seem almost miraculous."
Space-Variant Processing. Here's a personal example. During my graduate work, I developed a method for performing general space-variant processing. My advisor, John F. Walkup, found out that the same method was simultaneously discovered at Stanford by his PhD advisor's research group. Rather than competing, we agreed to publish all of our findings in the same issue of the journal Applied Optics.6-7
Einstein's Shoulders
In the context of the argument for discovery, some inventions can curiously be considered discovered rather than invented. Isaac Newton famously said that "if I have seen further [than others], it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." Einstein built on Newton's discoveries in classic physics and, in turn, stood on Newton's shoulders with the formulation of relativity. Modern physicists stand on Einstein's shoulders. The advancement in technology can likewise be considered standing on an ever-increasing stack of shoulders. This is certainly the case in artificial intelligence. Rosenblatt and Widrow's early work on AI led to discovery of error backpropagation neural network training that led to deep convolution neural networks, deep learning, and the generative AI we use today.
Inventions can be discovered. An example of an invention being discovered by two men is the telephone. Alexander Graham Bell is credited with inventing the telephone. But according to the Library of Congress:
Elisha Gray, a professor at Oberlin College, applied for a caveat of the telephone on the same day Bell applied for his patent of the telephone ... Bell's lawyer got to the patent office first. The date was February 14, 1876. He was the fifth entry of that day, while Gray's lawyer was 39th. Therefore, the U.S. Patent Office awarded Bell with the first patent for a telephone, US Patent Number 174,465 rather than honor Gray's caveat.If true, both Gray and Bell were standing on the shoulders of those who proposed the telegraph and glimpsed the possibility of the telephone.
Philosophers might contemplate the similarity of the discovery of invention with the debate between predestination and free will. If inventions and advancements in mathematics are discovered, the future is, in a sense, predestined by our discoveries. The pros and cons of the debate will continue well beyond the arguments presented here.
References
- A. Papoulis. A new method of image restoration. Joint Services Technical Activity Report, 39, 1973-74
- R.W. Gerchberg. Super-resolution through error energy reduction. Optica Acta, Vol. 21, pp. 709-720, 1974.
- Kari Karhunen 'Zur Spektraltheorie Stochastischer Prozesse', Ann. Acad. Sci. Fennicae, (1946), 37
- Michel Loève 'Probability Theory', Princeton, N.J.: VanNostrand, 1955
- László Jenkovszky, Matthew J. Lake, and Vladimir Soloviev. "János Bolyai, Carl Friedrich Gauss, Nikolai Lobachevsky and the New Geometry: Foreword." Symmetry 15, no. 3 (2023): 707.
- R.J. Marks II, J.F. Walkup, M.O. Hagler and T.F. Krile "Space-variant processing of one-dimensional signals," Applied Optics, vol. 16, pp.739-745 (1977).
- Joseph W. Goodman, Peter Kellman, and E. W. Hansen. "Linear space-variant optical processing of 1-D signals." Applied Optics 16, no. 3 (1977): 733-738.




Reader Comments
Tesla indicated that he received information.
Most of our materialistic science says such things are impossible.
There are many mathematical laws in the universe that would suggest "intelligent design', like the Fibonacci series, octaves in music. .
It's interesting how people from the west perceive reality differently from those from the east.
A couple of digressions: I have often considered that patent laws are flawed inasmuch as some individuals become immensely rich from one small addition to a body of knowledge that is already established and common property.
I can't help but feel that the work of V. S. Ramachandran on brain function has relevance in discussions of this nature. Here is a link to the 2003 Reith Lectures he gave which have remained a source of fascination to me at least: [Link]
Westerners approach reality materialistically.They tend to treat everything as tools. They like to complicate, fantasize. Invent infinite numbers of theses to justify the simplest truths.
Easterners tend to simplify. They look inward rather than into the distance. They have no such material needs. They think about themselves on the scale of their entire lives, even generations, which is especially different.
It's like two completely different crops of humanity.
Let's take the topic above as an example. What is math??
Mathematics is the same as any other human language. Neither better nor worse than others. Like other languages, all it is is an attempt to DESCRIBE REALITY.
It can be the language of mathematics as we know it commonly, i.e. the decimal system. But it can be hexadecimal and sexagesimal, which no longer has fractions at all.
We perceive reality through the prism of these descriptions, but they are not exact and more importantly, they are conventional, because they will ALWAYS be only a description of reality but will NEVER be reality.
If you rely on the decimal system, it has fractions. But we know that fractions don't really exist. Either there is something or there is nothing. If something is and we divide it, it becomes two different things, not two halves of one and the same :-)
Positive and negative are two more, my son reminds me...as in magnetism.
I would suggest that is not the "racism" being promoted in our current media. In our current media, "racism" is equated to "equity". The blacks, browns, reds, yellows, whites treat another race as lower, as animal, as having less worth is what is promoted as "racism". That the "victim" race is not given the same opportunities, therefore hiring on race took precedence over hiring on merit. Therefore, educational tests and universities, need to create quotas of accepted applicants.
The communist approach, "From each according to his ability to each according to his need". What is the basis of UBI, that each receive the same?
Mathematics as a "convention" and a "language". All of our mathematical thinking is base 10, the numbers 0 - 9. What if we thought in base 3? base 6? Computers are base 2, 0 and 1.
Today, to be gifted is a wonderful thing, it could be suggested that knowledge is indeed embroidered into time and Space itself and only the lucky few have the abilities to tap into it, for the Ancients removed all traces of their past understandings and Knowledge.
As you point out, design of some of the worlds oldest and most complex structures required math skills that even today very few people possess.
I don't think mathematics is " discovered " nor " invented " - it is in place already and tis a matter of learning how to wield the tool more proficiently.
Mathematics as we know it today exists with a narrow plane of thought, we humans have been dumbed down, so we can only visualise within certain perspective.
I believe Mathematics goes far beyond a humans comprehension, the Pyramids do illustrate this.
Anyway, good to hear from one.
WN3
There are no other uses. From a practical point of view, decimal math is ABSOLUTELY IMMACULATE.
You won't be able to use it to determine the perfect plumb line. You can't use it to determine the area of a triangle precisely. All this requires the use of the number Pi in the formulas, which is irrational, so each result will be "rounded up"
Your Last statement I believe is questionable as historically the Pyramids, their construction, their alignments and their scales as an expression against Earth is a feat that I doubt could be conducted today.
But if you wanted to fly to the nearest star and plot a course using the Pi number, the margin of error would exceed 1 light year. :-)))
Thus, any space navigation is impossible using the mathematics we know.
It's not a suggestion, guess or hypothesis...it's a fact!
If Pi was still a fraction, but it was at least a rational number, something could be done, but this is a shit :-)))
I send the Link so that one might wish to reconsider one's approach. ( please watch it all )
[Link]
If not, there's no point in supporting yourself with videos.
I like the idea shared by KRNABRNY that being Pi is "irrational", then you must know any calculations requiring "Pi" are using an approximation...that could be the case - but my suspicion is this "approximation" of Pi as a "Base-10" number expressed as such using decimals, is not an issue in other sorts of mathematical expression such that the time it takes to travel great distances could actually be determined precisely if we just knew what actually was in outer space . Fact of the matter is, unless someone can prove otherwise, human being have never gotten too far off the planet and the reality is we don't really know and the ideas from the last century or so I think have been going down the wrong path.
Stick in your rut, that's your perogative and please don't ask other's to spoon feed one .
If we had the Enterprise ship for intergalactic travel today, we wouldn't be able to plot a course. Because on the scale of galaxies, the margin of error would only be wrong by one galaxy :-))
Mathematics as we know it allows us to build skyscrapers, a pyramid, a water channel... and that's it :-))
Best to you,
Ken
I'd like to post a link to site I've posted to earlier - the fella there has amazing insight (I think) when it comes to ancient mathematical considerations. Let me see if I can find it.
Oh....it ain't coming easy - I'll find it, but it was about amongst other things the reciprocal of the square root of 10. The reciprocal of the square root of 10 is a "perfect" mirror image of itself - that to me just seems sort of amazing - can it be repeated in Base 8?
I found it - not sure this link will work or not: [Link]
What he was able to do.
But didn't we talk about that? ;-)
I'm an individual who wishes to expose the TRUTH.
Because before you reveal the truth, you must first know it :-)))
Ha, ha.
Ken
Im looking forward to witnessing the weight of your future posts.
I can prove it.
The moment it took me to type this the clock ticked and it changed.
Tell me something that doesn't change in time.
Of course, I also at one time thought nothing is everything - but not so much anymore...
Greetings!:-)
With that said I respect the both of you and I believe we are entering into a period that will be called: "the war of ideas".
What you think?
Above and beyond that, I'd like to encourage you to be on the side of the team that I am on in the war of ideas - but obviously - the choice is yours.
I used obvious examples. Known to everyone. If I started talking about prime numbers and the like, I would have more to say.
Greetings! :-)
As for prime numbers - speak your piece if you know more - there has been opportunity.
I plan on solving my puzzle in a few months - the answer is unknown to me.
I think Poland deserves recompense but more than that Poland is not to be denied - Just like Russia.
It makes no sense to think about politics by country and nationality at the moment. I am convinced that there has been a supranational event management organization for years.
There is countless evidence of this in the form of the responses of individual countries to the existing situations.
Of course, it started with the Pandemic, where all governments, without reflection or their own, independent research on both the virus and the vaccine they received ... agreed to administer an unknown substance to millions of their citizens in most countries.
This, in my opinion, is clear evidence. Further events only confirmed this thesis.
So there is no polarization between countries. There is a series of events, orchestrated by people unknown to us, to lead to specific goals.
All this theater is created only for ordinary people who are still used to the understanding of the world they have known since birth.
So the administrative division into countries, which is of course absolutely artificial.
What remains to be seen is if there are " other forces " interjecting in the situation, is whether or not there are adversaries who have remained silent until now. I suspect the probability of this is NOT trivial, and I hope the ones who prevail share in my principles regarding being harmless but inwit nonetheless - not a fool on the hill, but rather somebody with wisdom.
Sometimes wisdom demands resolute conviction and the will to do what must be done.
Can we talk about "property" at all?
People only usurp the power over certain areas for the duration of their lifetime or the reign of some dynasty, and then they leave, they die.
We're supposed to spend our short lives wondering who this piece of land belongs to, killing ourselves over it??
It's completely absurd. The madness that has been going on for centuries in this world.
The land belongs to no one and never has.
It is impossible to privatize and commercialize everything, as many people from the west dream. For it is so that you are born naked and you die naked.
ps - have a hug - math is a tool of course, but some tools demand respect....some don't, but some do.
In fact, we are, above all, human beings.
In Poland it still makes sense today, but in the USA it makes no sense at all. The US population is a mix of immigrant colonists from different parts of the world who have very little in common.
US name, flag and passport only.
🤣 🤣 🤣
Ken
mathematics - don't you just love it - I'm gonna solve my hexagon puzzle soon WN3. I hope you are alive when I do - if you are, we can both light candles for the sake of mathematics - we will do it in spite of ourselves!
Ken
This article could not be translated into the language of mathematics because it relies on the vagueness of English vocabulary and innuendo.
As for the second sentence, I think that is "right" on target. The English language is full of innuendo - that makes it useful in some ways and confusing in other ways I reckon.
Best,
BK
With that said - have a hug temporary.
A 2-1-2 for the sake of Poland and the vagueness of the English language.
This is titled The Character of Physical Law - Mathematics & Physics
[Link] the relevant information starts around 21mins into the presentation.
At the beginning of the episode we also take a quick look at the working relationship between Tycho Brahe and Johannes Kepler, their backgrounds, and the standard history of their story.
We dive back in to The Character of Physical Law by Richard Feynman, again using short clips pulled from the lectures themselves and reading excerpts from the book. This episode we focus mostly on the second lecture, "The Relation of Mathematics to Physics", where Feynman talks about how Nature seems to follow sets of mathematical rules, and how those mathematics might be related--at least in some cases--to large numbers of simple processes in the physical universe.
This is a link (posted below) to Richard Feynman lectures given at Cornell in 1964. iIn black and white, the technology of the day.
[Link] A series of 7 lectures.
Maybe for those with discernment, some answers could be gleaned.
It is a marriage, that is fought with conflict, some could say as above so below.
Mathematics just is.
duh
From your comment. 'Mathematics just is'
Where did it come from?
You are talking about a linear progression. The only linear progression is in the minds of scientist to promote this version of humanity and human thought.
Do you believe me?
Respectfully,
Ken
ps - have a hug baby - even if just temporary in time....time moves on in one direction only - the future!
In the link LG gave with StephanASchwartz, he demonstrated that remote viewing is possible. What does it mean? That consciousness is outside of space, time and body. That would mean everything exists here and now.
But the concept of a multiverse, many way of being living and thought.
Ken
Observations The square roots and their reciprocals of certain number would appear to be related directly to the measurements and their fractal expression of specific ancient reckoning counts. As we have seen above, some of the more commonly known day-counts relate directly to the measurements of the Great Pyramid.Hence the reality creation of videos games, to immerse the mind of the youth into a world of fantasy. No thought, no reality, no feeling.
And when they encounter the real world...boom!
Then vomit into the garbage of current thought of the day, all produced to us in the spectral spectrogram of statistical analysis.
The wonders of AI, they think they have the ability of precognition, to predict human behavior. maybe they should have been in contact with the universe, before, they had the megalomaniac delusion, that they can create the universe
Because, in reality, the universe, creates, it will destroy anything the does create. And we are living in a materialistic world that does not abide the law of the universe and creation.
Somebody, or something is really afraid.