© AFP / Lindsey ParnabyArchbishop of York Stephen Cottrell speaks during an enthronement ceremony in York, England, October 18, 2020
In an address to the church's General Synod, Archbishop Stephen Cottrell recited the Lord's Prayer, but paused to remark on the words "Our Father" that open the 2,000-year-old invocation.
"I know the word 'father' is problematic for those whose experience of earthly fathers has been destructive and abusive, and for all of us who have laboured rather too much from an oppressively patriarchal grip on life," he said, according to The Guardian.
Cottrell did not elaborate on whether he felt the prayer's wording should be changed, but his comment divided members of the Synod, which is the Church of England's governing body.
"Is the Archbishop of York saying Jesus was wrong, or that Jesus was not pastorally aware?" asked Canon Dr. Chris Sugden of the conservative Anglican Mainstream group, referring to the fact that both the Gospels of Matthew and Luke recount the prayer being taught directly by Jesus Christ to his disciples.
Rev. Christina Rees, a former General Synod member, agreed that calling God "Our Father" is "hugely problematic."
"Because Jesus called God 'daddy', we think we have to call God 'daddy'," she said "And the big question is, do we really believe God believes that male human beings bear the image of God more fully and accurately than women? The answer is absolutely not."
The debate is illustrative of a growing divide within the Church of England, whose liberal members have sought to reinvent the church's image amid dwindling attendance and closing of churches. Earlier this year, the church's Liturgical Commission - which sets out how mass is performed and what kind of language is used during services - told a meeting of the General Synod that it has "been exploring the use of gendered language in relation to God for several years."
The meeting was followed by a contentious vote on same-sex unions, in which the church agreed it would bless, but not marry, gay couples. The compromise angered both conservative and liberal factions, with the former viewing the decision as blasphemous and the latter arguing that it did not go far enough. The Synod is set to debate how to carry out these blessings on Saturday, and how to handle clergy who refuse to participate.
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We have to keep in mind, that divide and conquer is a strategy that has worked for psychopaths for millennia.
Thank You!
I was just thinking that evil jinn like the Archbishop of York are the reason I gave up my Protestant Christian dogma and turned to the Quran for answers and affirmation.
Affirmation of the truth of the universe that Allah only gives to those who truly seek Him out.
For a Pole a great help is that pronunciation is quite close to that in Polish. Well it's closer than English, and even than German pronunciation. I venture to say that it's even a little closer than Russian pronunciation.
Of course everything else is extremely different.
You are a genius. I speak Slovak and Czech but there is no way that the pronunciation is any close to Hungarian language, I would say that Slovak is close to Polish language. I remember my Polish friend liking 'herbata' which translates to 'caj' in Slovak. It's different but we found a way to understand each other well; we couldn't speak English that well yet.
On the other hand: the English language lacks other sounds, that's why the English won't pronounce correctly the company names like „Mitsubishi” or „Toshiba” ('ts' and 'sh' are transliterations that are crippling these names) — which I can speak correctly despite never (yet?) learned Japanese.
That's why it's easier for Poles to speak Hungarian words correctly like „megyek”, „vagyok”, „nyolc” etc. Of course they have also sounds not to be found in Polish, like e.g. in the word „csütörtök”.
And yes, the Slovak language is probably the closest to Polish from them all.
Just listen and compare — I believe when already speaking Slovak you'll be able to repeat these words from the record even not understanding them.
[I believe when already speaking Slovak you'll be able to repeat these words from the record even not understanding them.]
The only words in Hungarian I can repeat are grandma's swear words. For some reason these words seem easy to remember. When my grandfather complained about the food grandma made she would make him the food he hated the most and added some extra spicy words into the conversation. Eventually, my grandfather learned from his mistakes. By the way, my grandma was the best cook ever! I never complained. Those were the best times ever growing up in my homeland.
Immerse yourself in a Russian-speaking environment, and you will be surprised how fast your memory recalls the deeply buried knowledge.
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" Kaum gestohlen, schon in Polen. " (Just stolen, already in Poland.)
It didn't take two years after the collapse of communism until Polish criminals had established a strong foothold in the very-high-gain-margin car business.
Fortunately (for the common man) they specialized mostly on mid-size executive cars and above. Except for the occasional getaway car.
Well-organized Germans do not play any individual actions, but immediately steal on a state scale instead, harnessing the entire state apparatus for this.
Makes me think of gender specific titles. It's not politically correct to say "actress" or "waitress" or "stewardess" etc. so I guess "The Royals" will have to drop their restrictive gender specific titles soon if they want to keep up with the times - no more kings, queens, princes, princess, dukes, duchesses, or whatever else.
In my experience it seems most females tend to enjoy being labelled as feminine/girly - they do it to themselves all the time. Just look at a lot of their internet aliases. There are plenty along the lines of cutiegirlxo, vegan gal, that_yoga_babe. I'm guessing those have all been used. Plus look at all the skin and hair products so many females have. A lot of them are obsessed with going for an artificial (potentially supposed) semblance of beauty. Don't even get me started on makeup and all the weird looking pruned eyebrows and curled fluffed out lashes.
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