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Dr Stephen Levine was testifying before a Florida House Health & Human Services Committee on Feb 21 in favour of a ban on medical sex changes for minors. Levine was part of a panel of experts invited by Rep. Randy Fine who afterwards announced plans to pursue legislation to ban medical interventions such as puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones and sex change surgeries for under 18s in the state, according to Florida Politics.
Levine listed 13 ideas he had found in scientific literature written by those who support affirmation and medical interventions for young people who believe themselves to be transgender, stating he believes that all are scientifically untrue.
Before commencing with the list, Levine asked those assembled to consider the possibility that child sex changes is yet another medical blunder.
"We have a history of medical misadventures, most recently and most damaging is the opioid epidemic, where we began prescribing opioids liberally without scientific demonstration as to its use and its utility and its harms," said Levine.
Levine told the committee it is untrue to say that a trans identity once established is immutable, unchangeable and unchanging. Also untrue is the claim that prenatal, biologic forces cause a trans identity, as well as the idea that sexual orientation is entirely separate from gender identity. This he says is false due to the strong correlation between gender dysphoria in childhood and homosexuality in adulthood.
Levine then called the suggestion that gender identity is not a symptomatic reflection of some other problem "not a psychologically tenable concept."
He went on to point out the incoherency of the idea that gender dysphoria is a serious medical condition that requires medical intervention but only if the person wants it.
"There is some inherent paradox in that idea," said Levine. "It's a serious medical condition that implies we should treat it but we should only treat it if the patient wants."
Levine does not believe that the "associated emotional problems" experienced by gender dysphoric children and adolescents come from living in a discriminatory world, noting that many of the children diagnosed with gender dysphoria have prior mental health diagnoses. Nor does he believe that medical sex changes are the only available treatment for gender dysphoria in young people.
He disagreed with the claim that psychotherapy is the equivalent of conversion therapy, and likewise disregarded the suggestion that affirmation and medical interventions improve mental health and social function, stating that there are no long term studies to support such a claim.
Rather, Levine told the committee that there are many studies that indicate elevated death rates for adults who have undergone sex changes, "so the idea that this improves mental health is uncertain at best."
Next, Levine took aim at the transition-or-suicide narrative, calling it the "most powerful coercive untruth that parents of teenagers are told."
He cited a long-term Swedish study that showed females who had undergone sex change surgeries had "40 times the suicide rate," and that the average rate was 19 times higher than the general population.
"So we realize that we are exposing people to the great risk of suicide in the long run," said Levine.
He also stated it was not true that young teenagers know best what will make them happy in the future, nor that meeting the diagnostic criteria for gender dysphoria predicts a good outcome for sex change interventions.
Lastly Levine told the panel that it is not true to say that detransition and regret are rare, suggesting that researchers who report a low regret rate are defining regret in the narrowest sense.
"When people assert that regret is rare, it's because they're defining regret as telling their original therapist that they wish they didn't undergo this, or asking to have their body changed back to their original form, which is a very limited concept of what regret is."
To conclude, Levine asks how an intervention can be trusted when the ideas that underpin it are not true or not correct.
In the past, Levine has spoken about the chain of trust that exists within the medical world and how he believes that chain is broken in the field of gender medicine.
In a 2022 interview on the Wider Lens podcast, Levine explained that doctors and medical students have to be able to trust that the policies being made at high levels are based upon rigorous science because no one has time to look at the origins of each policy.
Doctors and mental health professionals have to be able to trust what they are taught, and Levine believes when it comes to transgender treatments, the chain of trust is "untrustworthy," calling the scientific basis for the recommendations made by the World Professional Association for Transgender Health "lacking."
Levine described medical students of today graduating with "the zeal of the newly converted," holding the belief that being trans is normal and that a trans person can have highly successful lives just like anybody else, and how they consider him an "old fuddy duddy" for giving them the facts about shortened life expectancy and suicide rates among those who have transitioned.
Levine said he has been accused of being "very conservative" on the issue of gender medicine and he pleads guilty to that accusation. He has spoken about his introduction to the field through a male patient who medically transitioned only to commit suicide nine years later, an event that had a profound impact on Levine's career. He says he has seen many patients who think that their troubles will disappear if they undergo a sex change who later discover that "life is not as easy as they imagined."
"They didn't escape much, so I plead guilty to being biased," said Levine.
Levine also told the committee that he believes that the psychiatric profession has been brainwashed by the World Professional Association of Transgender Health (WPATH) into believing that the best way to treat transgender patients is to affirm them and give them what they want.
"We have to take our hats off to WPATH because they have convinced the American mental health professionals, including their organisations, that science has already delivered the verdict that this is the best treatment and young mental health professionals are coming out of graduate schools being taught that the only thing to do for these kids is to transition them and to affirm," said Levine.
"I think they don't understand the 13 points that I made...They just don't understand our psychiatric professions have been brainwashed."
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What's most frightening for me is the amount of people that have been hypnotized by the black boxes on their walls and in their hands. At least some of these people are learning from their mistakes, I just feel sorry that those who took their lives were so lost. Their are much better ways out of the Transworld than suicide.
ReRan Yes a courageous man !!Once the truth gets out that the D0D used Covid-19 hoax as a method & means to manipulate & dupe citizens all bets are off which is probably why we are seeing the pivot back to China Lab Leak story to take heat off of D0D Weaponized the VaXXine.
" He cited a long-term Swedish study that showed females who had undergone sex change surgeries had "40 times the suicide rate," and that the average rate was 19 times higher than the general population."
Maybe a 40x increase in suicide rate is the goal ?
She is a very through & clever/sharp cookie no doubt. Chock full of good ‘EEI’.
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Levine listed 13 ideas he had found in scientific literature written by those who support affirmation and medical interventions for young people who believe themselves to be transgender, stating he believes that all are scientifically untrue.I only wonder why only psychologists of Levine's age are speaking out.
By the way, every field that has the word "science" in it is pseudoscience. Else it would not need it.
1. Talking with folks who could give a shit about you.
2. Taking medicines they
3. A couple perty nurses who were there because the job paid well, but they knew.
4. A few folks trying to share wisdom within the confines of an effed up place.
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I'm glad I got my ass out of there and I'll never go back.
The whole thing top to bottom is a racket and not in the interest of healing - I should know cause I been there.
My last experience with the "mental health" profession can succinctly be summarized as such:The growth of the DSMs over the years ("Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders") reveals what it is actually about. Proclaiming "mental health" as being "normal", with "normal" defined as the average.
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The whole thing top to bottom is a racket and not in the interest of healing - I should know cause I been there.
And this "average" is a brainwashed, unhappy, obese, anti-depressant-addicted debt slave.
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Do you think I have mental health issues or that I am just a plumber want-a-be?
Well, I don't really care cause the question was rhetorical and now the toilet is fixed.
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This is the kind of shit I thought about saying to the effing mental health professionals when I was under wraps, but I didn't because I just wanted to get the hell out of that hell-hole drugged up place of profit upon the misery of others.....but I did make a few good friends there and I remember and it his changed the whole course of my life.
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funny how things unfold sometimes.
Best to you codis,
Ken
Add Anti-depressants, VaXXines, other psychotropics & SSRI/SSNRI etc. You know humanity is full of itself when there are Pet Psychologists.
To conclude, Levine asks how an intervention can be trusted when the ideas that underpin it are not true or not correct.Duh . . .
Genuine transfgenderism is a very real, very rare situation, a conundrum really, requiring development of remarkable psychological/spiritual stability to successfully live through. [Link]
The manifest nonsense afoot these days is criminality, outright.
Do you have the link to that video of the Cathedral in Russia - I really want to watch that again to calm my nerves.
Peace,
Ken
Ken
Now consider this - you got portal "a" and assuming that portal exist does it not suggest there is a portal "b"?
It does to me, and as somebody with no "skin in the game" tis hard not to wonder if there might be a portal "c", but how is one to know or deduce this or that?
Truly, so when I see somebody throw out a number like 94%, I can't help but wonder was that from portal "a", portal "b" or maybe portal "c"?
It is worth thinking about, but not worth much because some things are out of our hands and moreover some things merit little consideration especially when you have no say in the matter.
Still - I can't deny lessons to be learned from all portals, but question I have is - is your portal better than mine?
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So, you know this, but it ought be evident - some effing psychiatrist trying to cage me in, well evidence suggests, I will put them in a cage after they finish their line of questioning and I'll do it with no harmful intent, but I stand resolute on my principles one of which is there is uncertainty undeniable, and it follows time travel is not possible, so I take caution when anybody suggests they are speaking with spirits especially if they turn that into some sort of religion.
I play to win and I suffer no fools, but I don't cast any stones - you got your ideas and I got mine....my ideas are that if we work together, whether on planet earth alone or from folks in the stars, then things will be better for all of us.....so, if some folks from the stars are prognosticating that 94% will die, then I give them no heed.
OK, I can't help myself. I've read them sessions before and I appreciate them. It is like info coming from a portal.From an unfathomably higher state of awareness actually, and because of many factors, the signal-to-noise ratio many years ago wasn't that high at about 6 to 10dB. These days it's probably rather better because as the Cs have many times said, it has been necessary to "groove" a better channel between the equally important "ends" of the communication "pathway". That has been the work of the 25 or so years.
Now consider this - you got portal "a" and assuming that portal exist does it not suggest there is a portal "b"?Sure, and then there's discernment because there are all kinds of noise out there.
It does to me, and as somebody with no "skin in the game" tis hard not to wonder if there might be a portal "c", but how is one to know or deduce this or that?Practised discernment and endless collation of information because thru that process the noise, which is random (so to say) self-cancels and drops in level whereas signal, which is coherent, adds cumulatively. This is a well known process in signal processing.
Truly, so when I see somebody throw out a number like 94%, I can't help but wonder was that from portal "a", portal "b" or maybe portal "c"?There's rather more to it than that but you have to go back and read and re-read the material
It is worth thinking about, but not worth much because some things are out of our hands and moreover some things merit little consideration especially when you have no say in the matter.Individually maybe but as a collinear group "things" are much more amenable to the collective mind.
Still - I can't deny lessons to be learned from all portals, but question I have is - is your portal better than mine?Mine's better and I'm smarter than you because I
Mine's better and I'm smarter than you because IThat was a good one.....thanks for taking the time to type what you did. I've studied there some, and I know there is a long history, but I also know, just like this place here......at first I was a true "newbie" and that is the way it is when you strive to go to different places and interact. Now, here at this place (sott.net), I have my own history, I've had temper tantrums, as have others, but all along my focus was on communication - and it helps to have a sense of the history of it all.believeknow that !! See, it says so right here in this big, thick book some guys wrote a long time ago, they say. And I'll kill you if you don't agree with me.
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So, I'll go back there and study up in response to your kind post.
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Regards,
Ken
We all make mistakes and thank-you.
Still, not sure what to make of it all......you know I have this concept of "uncertainty".....and so, one would think, that if it is part of life undeniable, then it doesn't matter how advanced on entity is, uncertainty remains and will always be - if not, there is no such thing as free will. So, when messages are sent, sometimes prophetic, often shown to be reliable, I believe uncertainty remains nonetheless, and therefore, I put my hope in it when others are hopeless or projecting out so much harm. But please, lets not be naive, and I know you are not, because large-scale harm has happened before and likely will happen again, but it is not inevitable especially for harm done intentional that is preventable.
So, whoever the ones are behind this scheme nefarious to life, no matter their level of power, there are forces out there uncertain to even them is what I put forth.....so, study the evidence, but history does not always repeat because sometimes "new" history is made on a dime.
Peace,
Ken
you know I have this concept of "uncertainty".....and so, one would think, that if it is part of life undeniable, then it doesn't matter how advanced on entity is, uncertainty remains and will always beExactly so, and that's why the Cs do "predictions" in only the broadest sense. Large trends can be somewhat predicted but in only the rarest of situations can minutiae be seen with any accuracy.
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