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In the response, officials give a breakdown of the type of Hellfire missiles fired, stating that 19 AGM-114N4 and 44 AGM-114R2 had been used. The 'N' version of the missile uses a Metal Augmented Charge (MAC) warhead that contains a thermobaric explosive fill using aluminium with the explosive mixture. When the warhead detonates, the aluminium mixture is dispersed and rapidly burns. The sustained high pressure explosion is extremely damaging, creating a powerful shock wave and vacuum. Anyone in the vicinity is likely to die from internal organ damage.
Thermobaric weapons, sometimes called 'vacuum' weapons have been condemned by human rights groups and, as the Times reported in 2008 , "the weapons are so controversial that MoD weapons and legal experts spent 18 months debating whether British troops could use them without breaking international law." The 'debate' came to an end when a 'Yes Minister' solution was offered - they "redefined" the weapon as an 'enhanced blast missile'.
In 2010, the MoD specifically refused to answer questions in the House of Commons by then Oxford East MP Andrew Smith on whether British drones were firing the thermobaric version of the Hellfire missile. Thanks to this diligent answer from an MoD official we now know they are.
However, the answer raises new questions. Given the extremely harmful nature of the weapon why are so many - roughly a quarter of the weapons fired from British drones in the first three months of the year - being used? Has the use of this weapon been at the same level since 2014? Or are they being used more frequently now?
The revelation comes alongside news that UK drone strikes have hugely intensified in Syria since January. In the first three months of 2018, UK drones fired as many weapons in Syria (92) as they have over the previous 18 months. And, despite the MoD regularly insisting that its Reaper drones are primarily used for surveillance and intelligence gathering, UK Reaper drones have now fired more weapons in Syria than the UK's dedicated bomber, the Tornado.
Comment: When under controversy, change the definition and reframe the debate. A banned product doesn't produce profits.
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Thermobaric weapons, sometimes called 'vacuum' weapons have been condemned by human rights groups and, as the Times reported in 2008 , "the weapons are so controversial that MoD weapons and legal experts spent 18 months debating whether British troops could use them without breaking international law."H uman rights groups can condenm them all they want but........
Thermobaric bomb s are not banned by any international arms control treaties!
Pursuant to Article 8(2)(b)(xx) of the 1998 ICC Statute, the following constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts: Employing weapons, projectiles and material and methods of warfare which are of a nature to cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering [empahsis added]… provided that such weapons, projectiles and material and methods of warfare are the subject of a comprehensive prohibition and are included in an annex to this Statute.the international community has yet to officially name them as cruel weapons against the spirit of just about every single law of war that exists.
Legal Status of Incendiary Weapons
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The use of flame weapons, such as Fougasse, the M202A1 Flash, white phosphorous, thermobaric, and other incendiary agents, against military targets is not a violation of current international law . They should not, however, be employed to just cause unnecessary suffering to individuals.See not a violation and its up to the deployer of such weapons to decide whether it causes unnecessary suffering
Funnily enough Russia and Syria have used these "condemned by human right groups weapons" in Syria so why are you singling out the UK?
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TOS-1 (Russian: тяжёлая огнемётная система (ТОС-1), Heavy Flamethrower System) is a Soviet 220mm 30-barrel (original system, Ob.634 or TOS-1M) or 24-barrel (Ob.634B or TOS-1A) multiple rocket launcher and thermobaric weapon mounted on a T-72 tank chassis. TOS-1 was designed for defeating enemy personnel in fortifications, in open country, and in lightly armoured vehicles and transport. First combat tests took place in 1988–1989 in the Panjshir Valley during the Soviet war in Afghanistan. The TOS-1 was shown for the first time in public in 1999 in Omsk.The TOS-1 Buratino heavy flamethrower system
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New Thermobaric Weapon Reportedly Joins Syrian Army (VIDEO)
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A video showing the arrival of what looks like a Russian TOS-1A Solntsepyok (Scorching Sun) flame-throwing system in Syria's Idlib province has been published by the Telegram channel 338 which deals with military-related issuesCharming!....... it will be VERY HOT in Idlib soon
"It will be very hot in Idlib soon ) New Year's magic ) Things are coming to another entrapment," the caption under the video reads.
So why the double standard? ..... don't tell me you thought we are too stupid to think for ourselves;
Comment: When under controversy, change the definition and reframe the debate. A banned product doesn't produce profits.No SOTT its not BANNED check your facts first as i said the other day;
Get your shit straight firstBut above all - never let an opportunity slip to point the finger at others when you know full well SAA and Russia are using said weapons!
SOTT a shamefaced Russia propaganda outlet.
BUT, as re: " A banned product doesn't produce profits.", that depends upon who is living with and who is violating such bans, whether they be about weapons, drugs,or anything that humans might pay value for. <];-D.
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