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Do we hate Russia yet? Let's add some more gasoline to the vitriol being spewed. I am really starting to depise little big men.
Just watching The Gentlemen on Netflix. Great dialogues, good characters created by Madonnas ex. ;) The rich will do anything to stay rich.
Do these judges ever listen to themselves? Don't they know how ridiculous they are, how nonsensical their rulings are becoming? A person with a...
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trumpWIN, out-maneuvre, eclipse belief or truth depending which it is associated with.taking a "common" - sense(?) stance will in most cases probably be beneficial
Belief: "Jesus is the most documented historical personality ever." Fact: "He is not, and in fact there is no comparison when looking at the evidence for actual historical personalities."
eg in the medieval ages they thought the earth was flat and there were witches that should be burned.
how would "common sence" look like at that time do you think?
btw; proof(?) that 1+1=2; [Link]
As for witches, it is possible that witches existed (after all, they exist today, we just think they're harmless). That fact has no bearing on whether or not witches should be burned.
Again, it is not that difficult. I am talking about very simple, basic things here. Fact: I'm typing on a keyboard. Fact: there is a screen on which my words are appearing. Fact: my lips are closed.
So, to reiterate my point, there are VERY simple facts relating to issues like the ones we discussed on our shows. But BELIEFS block people from accepting those facts. Such thinking errors are akin to denying that I am typing on a keyboard, or that my lips are closed, etc.
I would love to see a future talk of Jewish brainwashing, given that I am a goyem labelled as an anti-semite for insane or zero reasons. Do so and be prepared for further attacks on this site.
Shalom and pax vobiscum.
Most people live trying to avoid pain and gain pleasure (usually settle for comfort). This is the major driving scale of their life and that is why we see very extreme forms of denial - anything to avoid feeling any pain.
The answer is to shift to a scale of truth/ love vs lies. But it is painful to face truth (particularly personal truth); we think it is easier to continue to suppress our emotions and settle for comfort. Plus the familial and societal pressures if I change and have different views from others - I donโt want to feel the pain of that rejection etc either.
When we stay in our comfort zone there is no learning, there is no growth, and the irony is things will keep happening to trigger us emotionally, so we will keep building that fortress. It will get harder and harder.
The truth will set us free and we have to want that - it is a choice - we have to think to reason to feel. Because what if I have to change? That is going to be painful; I risk rejection from family, friends, and the world. So not many have chosen that path yet because it is not rewarded in this world, but it is the right path.
Was just comin' to look for you, andxany other with open-flow emotional world
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The image at the beginning reminds me of Gurdieff's admonition, if a man realizes he is in prison, the only sane direction is to get out of prison. There is also his story of the Yazidi boy trapped inside the white circle drawn by the bullies. In both cases he is talking about belief systems that keep a human trapped in his own psychology, his own faulty map of reality. In our current day of virtual reality, distinguishing truth from falsehood will become more and more difficult.
Belief systems cover a myriad of areas. The one that is not usually covered is scientific beliefs. Darwinism is a scientific theory, not a scientific fact. Global warming is a scientific theory, not a scientific fact. These theories are treated as truth in the media and some scientific circles, and have become part of the common belief system. The general population has the belief that science overall is truth, they believe it, and therefore they can be manipulated by media pronouncing the scientific "truth" about covid-19.
I think the 3 of you are in an excellent position to help people learn to question, analyze and think about subjects. However, your audience is probably already thinking. Michael Behe and Ken Pederson started from the belief that Darwinism was correct, and each through research changed their belief systems. How to make people aware of their belief systems and where they mislead?
When you talk about religion, it is easy to question beliefs about it. However if you focus on the teaching itself, it is based on being here now. For example, Uri Gellar was known for his spoon bending. My belief about him was he was a magician or circus performer. On GAIA there is a Legacy interview with him. Yes of course he could bend spoons. However, I didn't know the CIA and Stanford Research Institute studied his abilities, as they did with remote viewing. Nor did I know that oil companies hired him to find oil locations through his abilities and paid him handsomely. What does this mean? It means our belief that this is not possible is wrong. It means that the mind and heart can affect physical reality. It means reality itself is different than we believe. So miracles are simply not understood science. David
Might want to give the show another listen and consider how what's being said there applies to you.
And to an extent, that kind of thinking is a bit of glib put around by people who don't remember their own childhoods.
I can remember being like 5, 6, 7, listening to my mother and thinking, "WTF is she on about now?", or my father "WTF is he doing that for?"
The idea of families as 'belief factories' doesn't quite pass muster, as families and extended families are made up of people who are all very different from each other. My auntie was very different from my mother and my uncle was totally different from both of them. My brother was quiet and studious. I was the loudest kid you could imagine. And that is original. Much in the same way that for some inexplicable reason, one newborn cries all the time, another never cries, another never stops eating, and so on and so forth.
You might say families are fields of influence within other fields of influence. To a large degree, in the smaller and the greater, you have a palette with which you can dip into and mix your own colours, but you are who you are from the moment you arrive, what you do with that or don't bother to do with that is pretty much your deal, and familial and cultural fields of influence are not the only areas you have access to in that regard.
Frustrating at times... usually... argh.,
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Automatism (whether instinct or socially engineered) is what we're born with and grow up with and largely have to endure, although it certainly has its 'good' aspects.....
But it (automatism) is unconscious or only, at best, dully conscious. It performs by rote, constant similar maneuver. A contained environment.
Free will (individual learning/experiencing) is what we utilize (or attempt to) in order to become more conscious, which is the goal of evolution.
But these are just words and I really cannot say.
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I don't contest that many people are highly influenced by what they see on TV and are subjected to subliminal messages but away from the screen people, and cats, do exercise their freewill all the time.
I like the sound of Welsh: Llangollen, Llanderfel, Llandyfrdwy, Llanuwchllyn, Rhosllanerchrugog.
Linux, eh? I've no experience. What are the pros and cons?
Wanting to deprive Hates of finance I had my computer made by a "Free Soft Ware Society" company. It just runs Ubuntu but I could have had Windows also installed had I wanted.
You can install Linux on you computer if you have room.
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The truth isn't measured by the amount of consent!!
And yes, Jesus exists since He was mention in the works of pagan Roman historians, pagan Jewish historians, pagan Greek historians, etc!!! Sorry to disappoint you!!!
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Oops.. You're talking about the 90s CE? Nevermind.* Mea Culpa...
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*RC's Emily Litella imitation.
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There are two references to Jesus called Christ in Josephus. The first is the debated and probably spurious Christian interpolation of Testimonium Flavianum (18.3.3).
The second in the no-longer disputed reference to "James the brother of Jesus, who is called Christ" (20.9.1). Almost all modern scholarship on this passage considers it to be 100% authentic and not a later insertion or edit.
Sorry mate. Fact just trumped your belief.
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as it is obvious that you like to jack with Christians, why don't you try to jack with me. eh? I am a Deist.
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are you bright enough to understand your own personification of Jesus as a pagan?
Jesus being the personification of the Sun and its journey through the seasons.
methinks thou art is in, over thy head, sir.
There are many different versions of Jesus. Many books that have interpreted the life of a man called Jesus.
Iv'e read "The Dead Sea Scrolls" and "The Secret Teachings of Jesus, the Four Gnostic Gospels"
Also "Jesus The Man" and "Jesus of The Apocalypse" by Theologian Barbara Thiering. "Jesus the Last of the Pharaohs" and "Jesus King of Edessa" by Historian Ralph Ellis. There are also many other interpretations I haven't read.
can you draw a tangent between them and Aesop's fables? you remind me of, 'the allegory of the cave' Plato.
seriously dude, was there ever a library at Alexandria?
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was Alexander just a myth?
The parables are moral truths recounted in a simple manner for children and the childish minds of the time.
One of the chief motivating factors for American Christianity is a wish to keep one toe in The Old Country.
Some of it is similar in a way to modern New Age-y types who identify with paganism, wicca, and running around Stonehenge in a bunch of OMO-man duds.
A desire for a link with antiquity is not necessarily a bad thing, but frequently the results are quite comical.
This is what the Mind Matters discussion was all about, belief and the closed mind.
I donโt believe that he is a God; there is only one God.
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For instance, in previous shows you have spoke approvingly of process philosophy and the work of David Ray Griffin, yet John Cobb himself endorses a form of Marxism (eg see his foreword to "Organic Marxism" in the Amazon preview of the book with that name). So perhaps you own conceptions of the Other are also polarized and lacking in nuance.
Does your dislike of commies include, for example, Christian communists and libertarian communists?
Our dislike of commies is because of their support and promotion of a failed and unviable economic alternative to capitalism. Therefore it doesn't matter to us, or to me anyways, who promotes the idea. They're wrong and being used by people that wish to control how others think and act.
Your overstatement hurts your claim.
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Further, if consciousness is evolving, as Aurobindo, de Chardin, Barfield and many others have argued, I doubt that society will consist of atomized individuals competing against each other to survive forever.
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It is the imposition of โnew lawsโ being imposed on us now that we object to.
I can envision a communistic or socialist system run by a very loving dictator; donโt know anyone on earth at present who could do the job though.
Existence: I was thinking about atheism and existence the other day. It struck me that - whether atheists themselves know this of themselves or not (consciously, certainly not!) - fundamentally, because the belief of the Atheist at his core is all of Existence *popped* into existence out of Nothing (like magic) therefore his entire belief system, subconsciously at least, is structured around this notion; that all things in and of life be obtained of nothing also - thus, no efforts need nor should be spent on his part to "get back" out of life... And that any efforts which ARE put into life, against his whims - those whims beyond mere excesses of impetuous youth, or of sex-energy cups runneth over - is extra energy expended of him and he is now "owed"!... Of which, in turn he deserves himself the follow-on belief; out of this terrible imbalance formed out of his expense - Life must owe him a living!!
This by definition concludes an atheist MUST take more from Creation than which he gives back to it, be his default setting. And he must oblige this godlessness dialectic put in its motion, to remain true to his 'nature'.
It is out of this furthermore, the direct reflection of godlessness in the neo-culture of getting things from nothing, today, I see expressed in how 'progressives' think and behaves and seeks to live by, evermore... Fitting perfectly with the mindset of the Left, as extremized, has become the source of all the puerile-like tantrummy destructiveness of all things rational and all things held in law and order as required for the upward motion Creation force managing to hang on inside Western civilisation (of which the techno-satanic Covid World Order must destroy firstly before it can fully implement itself).
Godlessness (atheism) = inevitable eventual destruction of existence, let alone Belief and Truth.
My, what a wet miserable gloomy day...
You can dissect me any how you want, LindaMay.
Favour? really?
Because until you finally stop telling me you think I have "a brilliant mind" (or other to that effect) because you're finally 'up there' with me ("brilliant" mind, that is), then you can be in the position to do ME the favour for the sake of OUR mirror, to raise MY FUCKING FREQUENCY!!!
Wouldn't you want that for me?... For all of us?? Because, try as I might, I just can't do it alone, LindaMay... *sob* and, although there is many an occasion for many a SOTT commenter to be in receipt of your short sharp jibe-y easy-as-you-like two-bit quip/not-so-quip flung-dung low-frequency one-liners (which apparently are never personal hits) -- it just ain't gonna cut it with me!
(and aint gonna cut it)
Skipped the rest as a favour to myself. Just sayin', ...i m living my life.
I'm of to have an early night now... Goodnight.
p.s. I've always wished the best for you, Linda.
no sarcasm involved. Truth is a thing that is discovered. it is self evident when observed.
argueing with truth, when discovered, is folly.
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it. Sure... I can be hands-on too
Your method of attack is petty, "you are so low frequency," "excellent ... I thii-ink." Ok, but we are not in a sorority.
If you want to raise your frequency, stop worrying about being offended. Also, appreciate people for who they are. Perhaps you do so.
Though YOU can first start by appreciating, first of, me and LM have a history on SOTT - as she does with pretty much errryone else here, eh? -- and this ought to be taken into big consideration before jumping in our tea-party sideways and landing upsidedown in the fruit-punch bowl!
Now, sober up your erratic vibratory frequency field and take a deep breath, then re-read CAREFULLY who said what to whom first and said in which context, and start again (or not... up to you).
It's not worth it in any case.
Which was not very respectful. Pity those who pity.
It's like they've been written by a cider lady, or a dog woman or something.
I am thinking she is hot for you dude.
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I mean, if Spiked! comments section gets loaded up with agents provocateurs on a daily basis, why would SOTT get a pass?
Either way, as can be seen on this thread in particular, by accident or design it doesn't take very long to derail the possibility of having sentient discussions as per "When belief trumps truth" or whatever, does it?
That's why I don't go with all that SOTTites nonsense.
For all I know, Rowan Cocoan could be a copper, LindaMay an axe-murderer, Parzival a pedophile, etc.
Which is not to say that they are, but 'handle with care' is definitely the order of the day as regards any internet communications with total strangers.
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Wishful thinking on my part, an all that... No more! So I guess that's that then... Its gonna get worse, Linda.
The same chaos that gets generated here has affected you btw.. I did not say that. And there is no attack with this. None. Yet YOU seem be have interpreted it as me taking offense here... Why is that? I'm not setting out to raise my frequency per se. What will be will be as far as my personal development is concerned. But being offended is one to take note of maybe... Though I don't feel offended, more like just VERY pissed off now because of the constant confusion and misunderstandings that crop up here time and time again every time a serious discussion is attempted that involves more than two short paragraphs! Sure, why not... Its probably a VERY necessary shield to put up around to be a regular commenter here who has anything half- decent to say... Oop, sorry, was that more of my self importance there?? It works both ways.
Anyway, you seem half-decent in retrospect, once my 'emotional projection' faded... So I half-apologize to you.
Stand up Jeezus, wherever you are!!!
The way it often runs is, the more humble the facade, the more self-important the interior.
"I did not say that."
No, you implied it multiple times. Raise your fucking frequency, you said. I took that as you being facetious, as if she couldn't, or as if you were obviated from self-improvement. Maybe that was wrong of me. Narrow is the gate, you said. I suppose now that you were imploring her to be better, but I am not familiar with you. Who's to say you're on a higher level? If you are more intelligent, than me, than her, than SOTT, whatever, then shouldn't you behave as much?
"YOU seem be have interpreted it as me taking offense here... Why is that?"
I did not realize you misinterpreted her. I did too, in a different way. If you want the answer, your third comment seemed particularly hurtful, and I don't know how anyone would handle something like that. That is what I read into her response, and all that I understood from her comment. Your best wishes comment did not acknowledge this. Perhaps this set me off. Now I see that comment not as blindness but more like relief on your part.
"Oop, sorry, was that more of my self importance there??"
I do not know. Is it meant as an insult? Well, insulting everyone is different from insulting one person. The former feels better, and we can pretend we're above all of them.
"It works both ways."
I don't care about my advice. Let's just all be on our best behavior.
"So I half-apologize to you."
Half-forgotten.
I like that she welcomes all newbies with open arms and helps them get settled in on SOTT. She gives everyone half-a-chance at first introduction... even the douchebags. She was the first ever to initiate contact with me actually, making me feel ever so welcome. That will always count for something in my world.
At first kinda like a big sister, an almost motherly quality in a funny sort of way. She makes sure there is plenty fun to be had, and she'll cheer up all the newfound little siblings when they're feeling glum. Which is sweet actually. But when we start to come into our own and find a more-solid grounding, she can't bear the idea of everyone growing up and the thought of leaving her behind! And she attempts to pull everyone back to before. Not in a mindful mean way, more an automation. I know it has little to do with those here having gained greater intelligence because she does appreciate intellect for the most part (as long as its not too mechanical thinking) so I can only assume its "soul growth" related that's the problem. I'm certain she can do it too but she doesn't want to... Because in fact, she hates it! And hates to see it attempted of others. I think its because she sees it as the root cause behind the 'sentience of evil' in our world, and all the evils of arrogance caused by man... So better try and stop themselves to become devils! And therein lies the tragedy (and it is a tragedy).
But maybe I'm wrong... Or wrong to be harsh? You mean "Explain"? If so, appreciate the fact at the time, rightly or wrongly, I thought she was basically calling me "DISGUSTING". That last part in bold. Its not about me thinking myself on a 'higher' level. I don't think quite in those terms. Any self-importance I might perceivably have probably comes from something else: General self-assurance through muddled life experience, and force of will, combined (tho I haven't examined myself that deeply to be sure on that). So no, not really about that, but more about seeing those *choosing* not to raise THEMSELVES up 'higher' when I'm certain they can. And just to reiterate; its not so much about strict intelligence, but more-so of "soul growth".
And just so you know; I judge (and yes, we all must judge) those who have come FURTHEST from their starting-point or origins, NOT how far ahead they perceivably are gotten in self-development compared to any others further down the line at a given measure. Yeah, pretty much. The former. Feeling better? (no insult directed to you) Well, please do because its actually quite good advice. I can't guarantee that if the mood takes me, but I will try. Perish the thought! LOL.
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My last husband and I owned a Real Estate company with 20 Realtors and 960 rentals, so we had lots of stories. The most common was a realtor being approached sexually by the seller or tennant. Never happened to me though.
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People always change their minds.
Thinking about this and that is a total waste of time for You and others.
Perhaps being nuts is just part of our active homeostasis.
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i.e. perhaps someone out there is trying to shield us from the possibility of catching 'pennies from heaven'.
Just a thought.
Although, do I need to take my shirt off for that, will my jumper turn into a super jumper. lol
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It's a converse way of looking at the running down of the commercial aviation industry, lockdowns, masks, etc.
In the same way that if you do the opposite of what you're being told to do by whatever PTB, very often you'll come across completely different realisations as to why you're being issued those directives in the first place. The smoking ban is a good example.
I had quite a vivid dream about cosmic rays only last week. Cosmic rays and groaning cathedrals. Bizarre it was.
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Thanks, I'll have a look at that.
Nuffink to do with cosmic radiation whatsoever.
At least, I don't think so.
LOL.
Don't suppose you know of an 'establishment' impartial to an anti-lockdown 'lock-in' somewhere around the shadier ends of the EC prefix on a cold wet late-November/early-December Wednesday afternoon, do yer?
Let's arrange something when they raise the iron curtain.
Fongers crissed.
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and is generally accepted as 'Truth' ?
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Iยดd like to return to belief and decision making and opinion. Do we agree that all governmental power is based on opinion (following David Hume)? If so, opinion will lead to belief and belief will decide against all facts? Is that true? I do not see p.e., that the missing weapons of mass destruction in Iraq did any damage to (public opinion about) politics. Bush made a joke out of it, and that was that.
Same now with Corona. We see so many facts regarding the PCR-Test or the infections and deaths, that could well be made up to a logic chain of proving a hoax. but facts are totally meaningless. the public wonยดt listen. I see protests, nearly every day, shouting freedom and democracy, but the media (as do the politicians) call them nazis, and so does the public. in a most aggressive way! some even demanding the shooting of all critics. a government advisor in Austria demanded: "no beds on intensive care for critics!"
I read a book some time ago, called The Cult" that treated the months or even years of work necessary to clear a brainwashed mind. so hard to convince someone that he isnยดt right.
So now, what can we do? how can we change the positive opinion towards politicians and media? also here, facts donยดt help. we have a lot of facts proving, they are corrupt, arrogant egomaniacs. still, public loves them, maybe it makes them feel participating from their power, being on their side. like being a fan of a successful football club, being on the side that wins... maybe somene has an idea.
1) Hello & welcome.
2) It's not so much opinion that is running things, but the false (and programmed) beliefs that are running things.
3) Cogito, ergo sum is a Latin philosophical statement made by Descartes, usually translated into English as "I think, therefore I am". There are many links on that - here's one: [Link] (To which I add, never stop seeking truth, and as you perceive it. There has never been a time in history where more people have access to the truth and yet a majority are avoiding their responsibilities to learn truth and share it.)
4) The more one learns, the more one realizes how relatively little they know - but such is a hunger for knowledge and your awareness and acknowledgment of that is why you're here. (WAY better than 99% olf folks - you're fine. - And I'm a pessimist.)
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We can only really change ourselves. The more we live in truth the more positive influence we will be. Others wonโt change because of what we say; they might be inspired to change because of how we show up. All that matters is that I take responsibility for my own education and search for truth and commit to live that truth no matter what.
It seems to me that the above type of people are those who lack any real personality, originality, they have always been followers, even since childhood, they followed a leader without thoughts of their own. Perhaps they really don't know how to think for them selves and are thus very immature. It's sad that they are so numerous.
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some very interesting times, that is FOR CERTAIN.
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Thats my take on it.
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I think he was reasonable on election night whilst telling the truth as he saw it. (And he was right) He has seemed restrained and under pressure in press briefings since then. I think his hair has actually changed colour to quite grey as some one else commented.
I know no-one is perfect, but when someone likes to play golf I immediately think something about them is never to be 100% trusted.
Other than that I think Trump is GREAT
I guess some people need a little contrast in their lives.
Do you trust Iggy Pop 100%...??
A) Iggy Pop has never stood for election.
B) I've never been in a position where I've had to trust Iggy Pop 100% for anything.
C) You can probably fill in the blanks all the way to Z with that one by yourself.
I don't know anything about golf. Never watched it or played it.
I've played crazy golf, but I wouldn't give that any more significance than it deserves.
But Iggy Pop is irrelevant as you know. Trump, however, is a leader (at least representative) of a powerful nation so the stakes for "trust" is huge because a leader of a nation has to be of the highest integrity as humanly possible for those most difficult situations he will find himself in. Of course no human-being is expected to be literally 100% trustworthy... I was being figurative. But his integrity at least, must be near -on 100%... I'd say at least 95%. Playing golf takes it under that threshold for me.
However... Due to his 'The Art of the Deal' days from when the most successful business dealings are done on the golf-course and therefor 'old habits die hard', then I am willing to overlook this blemish on his character left over from those days. Yes, its quite obvious to me.
And of course you're allowed to play crazy golf - which isn't the same thing - for the sake of appeasing colleagues after work or a happy family day out, every now an then...
What was/is it about the main part you didn't/don't want to comment on?
Here's the latest MindMatters out as I'm sure you're aware:
SOTT Focus:MindMatters: Navigating The Chaos
As current events and crazy people continue to spiral downhill with ever greater frequency and intensity, we find ourselves challenged not to react or respond in ways that are detrimental to...It clocks-off the last word, paraphrasing: "Self-importance [...] wrecks everything..." And I instantly thought: Prolly an idea to start afresh there - but with "Jeezus" in mind(?)
HALLELUJAH!!!
The fact is, you haven't thought this thing through and you don't know what you're talking about.
Dark around these parts, huh?
I must come to better KNOW thine Self, HFL, starting with my 'lower centres'. Because they're clogged up! So the top of the list for me right now is to "see" where it is I'm led 'instinctively' first and foremost, and to 'feel' where my mind is pulled or pushed in what direction that way or this, and see what my triggers are and to see where my emotions arise from and whether to 'let the chips fall where they may' (as Elan would put it)... All from how my interactions with others here are going... Where will the next HFL-interaction thread take me to!! . .(Lolz!)... and then the why.
For, the thinking things through part is kinda secondary for me at the moment, though of course its a very significant secondary, less than a half-notch down - as THINKING is very important, obviously, and I appreciate you getting me to THINK and will certainly continue to try to oblige you on that wherever I can. But the 'knowing what I'm talking about' part is very much tertiary... I couldn't care too much with that one at the moment, it can take a back seat for now. Though I'm sure it will come to the fore in due course (I certainly hope so, because I'd like to know what I'm talking about too).
You could say; I'm carrying out my personalised bastardised version of that system known amongst you Gurdjieffians as 'Self-Remembering'. Naturally, because I'm doing so on my own, it is gonna be a bit haphazard and chaotic, like things can be on the SOTT comments sections, which kinda suits me, because I simply can't follow tried and tested systems of past masters, unless, perhaps, I fork out a tonne of money along with a tonne of free time I never will have neither of (ok, maybe time due to Covid Laws, but defo not money!). So, I've learned to do things my more-difficult way until other journeymen/women come along on-line or IRL and kindly or harshly corrects those certain things wrong in me as and when they (the journeymen/women AND the things wrong with me) pop up.
I have FAITH. So thats gotta count for summint in my favour!
Anyways, you're the one who shook up the snow-globe of this particular sub-thread here between me and you, when it would otherwise have duly ended with my last response to cracker. You made the Iggy Pop mountain out of my Trump mole-hill. Which I don't mind, and I think I did get your point after a second look, about minds being lost causes here on SOTT when derailing or 'forum sliding' just as with people IRL, was it? - and muddled into it 'people's lives needing balancing contrasts' and wot-not. Because you take issue with veering threads off track just like everyone veering into chaos outdoors in your street, BUT unfortunately, that particular snow-globe shake-up of yours wasn't a good example for me because I probably know less about Iggy Pop than you do about golf!... And I was left wondering... Ugh?? Unless, that was part of your point about 'forum sliding' and the chaotic minds of people all around and everywhere out there and in here and how its all hypocritical reflections of everyone here espousing to each other etc? If so, good one
If not. Please kindly clarify it so I'm not left with the same issues of uncertainty and befuddlement as you definitely take with LindaMay.
To note: I too share much of your annoyance with there being a lot of 'forum sliding' as HVACTech coins it, that's been going on around here. But that's something to raise with Joe or Niall - or whomever is steering the SOTT helm these days. In the meantime, from my end, for the most part I'll continue to go along with whatever the thread-flows draws me away no matter how far from the original subject of its respective article, for the reasons I've now explained above until I want to call it a day on a given thread... or if YOU want to call it a day from your end when you think I'm guilty of too much forum sliding meself, I will of course respect your wishes... Tho I hope that when I forum slide its at least interesting? And its getting just a little bit brighter for me as each day passes! But when I crash and burn, as I always do (s'all good tho, its all part of my journey, its how this here nigga dun rollz)... I will 8 times pick myself up after 7 times my falling, click clack the knuckles and jump back to it to continue on as I left off!
My brain is tired. I won't be responding to any response until at least midday tomorrow.
Looks like the cosmic rays have got him.
Or do you not need shielding because you stay in the twilight zone and never raise up into direct Light?
@Joyly: I donยดt wanยดt to change noone. Just make someone start to think, as Rowan said. Probably this would only be possible. if some other popular person started speaking truth. I am so disappointed in all the musicians and artists and sport stars, that gave us once protest songs and ideas and comments, while now they keep their mouths shut for obvous reasons.
I wonder how long before this is censored?
**Even way back then, I knew that he was talking about (Big) Dick Cheney.
RC
I generally (and still) do not like music videos. However, I have never seen the above JB video before now - I only knew and well heard that album's words, and though I did well know what the songs were about, (CIA in Nicaragua, El Salvador? et al.), well . . . watching that video* the whole "a picture tells a thousand words" really rings home. Check it out! [Link]
RC
*Granted, production skills in 1986 were WAY worse.
RC
I recently said re some link that I thought it might well be Creative Writing 101 at Langley, but what do I know?
I above just wrote about JB's comments on the evil CIA wars in Central America. That led me to the below.
In days long past (e.g., those of one year ago ) I would never have even linked this, but, as I learned long ere now, the more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. That said, I will let YOU reach your own opinions on this, for I am frankly curious to hear from you, my well informed fellow SOTTites. I have never heard of these claims - have you?
Without further ado, I give you this from the link, infra: [Link]
*Clearly, a CIA guy who became inconvenient - a .David Ferrie for the 1980's;
** Am aware of claims re claims of one and/or other being CIA compromised.
RC
Shame there was a few sound glitches with the original... So I thought to put up the audio version too, because that was quite frankly a beautifully powerful song -- and I can't believe I've not heard it before!!
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He's always been a master lyricist. That entire album is fantastic.
I would simply recommend you listen to every album of his in order.* But a few of his phenomenally poetic songs are For A Dancer, From Silver Lake, and the list is too long.
I've seen him in concert about 8 times - he's great!
RC
*I have been less impressed with his last two, though.
RC
perchance, if I suggest..
that if one cannot dazzle them with brilliance, Thou art shall baffle them with bullshit?
or, has this place taken that concept to an art form?
any of the wordsmiths here, care to jack with me about my countenance?
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Here is a favourite, of yours....? - from one freedum-luvvin-Brit to a 2nd-Amended-Murican another... lets bring things back to basics..
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(i chose this version for the pic... a pleasant reminder for what its all for )
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Bk
He seems like a decent enough guy, but nein sprecken ze Deutsch! (Didn't look it up how to spell in German.)*
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R.C.
* I just now ogle translated a comment or more:
Oh my God! How they scream as if they were Mexican drug lords or the mafia with sharp weapons on the attack! Do you have weapons? Why should someone arm himself in his apartment? What a horrific experience !!!
That was the government's goal !! Today the law was passed and they started today! One day the police will regret it bitterly! They should be ashamed!
RC
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Here's the link to the video with comments. [Link] The pigs start banging HARD on the door at ~43:20. Bang it down, come in with a submachine gun. Looks straight out of Brazil. (Terry Gilliam film.)
As re why? I think he's a non PC C-1984 skeptic. Anglin writes aboutit at above link. Again: [Link]
Do you speak German?
RC
Then the SOTTypes..
Yup. Sad and scary, but what is scariest is the people - MOST! - being wilfully blind to such events, covering their ears and eyes so that evil can work.
I am reminded of a kid who was 19 or such, and he was getting sentenced to like 25 years? life? for selling pot. He gave an eloquent speech about the evil that must exist in order to destroy a life for a harmless plant. He then ran and jumped out a window and fell to his death.
"Just another suicide," is what was said. (Actually, I imagine it got dealt with in the same way that 9/11/2001's WTC-7 and nanothermite;* to wit: nothing at all.
(Above even is a recollection of faint impressions from ~15 years ago when I probably should have researched it, at least to impress it firmly in my mind, but I DID NOT! Thus, I firmly expect that what I just wrote above - which I could still delete, but shall not - is perhaps more counter-propaganda than I should post - but my guess lies firmly on the side left.
R.C.
*Which, STILL TO THIS VERY DAY is easily findable in NYC downwind from the WTC Complex - 'death by (intentional) lack of 'publicity.'
RC
When I wrote "my guess lies firmly on the side left." I meant left behind, ignored, etc. Given it's me, no SOTTite would accuse me of being leftward in things philosophical or polical.
*As much as RC should be looked on as a 'para gon' of virtue? Who TF knows?
** A term 'mincemeated' by the BFM.
RC
One could say that it's ironic that Germany's laws preventing any questioning of the holocaust are actually the wedge that keeps the door open for their next holocaust to be implemented
Not sure if nano-thermite can explain away the dustification of the towers .... there was that suspicious hurricane off the coast
RC
* You can always try and demonstrate with an aluminium coke can and some rust scraping
Did you see that poor Dr. Get arrested? (~43:20) At the very end, you hear the scene straight out of Gilliam's Brazil, (46:XX) SCARY! Some SOTTite who is fluent in German needs to listen to what that guy preached (he sure enough looks and sounds like a calm, decent soul), what his prior posts, videos and points have been / were / are, along with Germany's claimed basis for the arrest, and what it portends.
The ending where the cop moves the cam and he's breathing hard.. well, if that's fake, someone should become a movie director!
R.C.
*Just made up that word.
RC
On the sketch board there are symbols for different irons
Don't think the Building 7 film is a hit piece - SEVEN: A Film by Dylan Avery ... same guy who did Loose Change
You can find some English comments, with German speakers giving their input
Just checking his video history titles He's on a live stream now - started 16 minutes ago - [Link]
Invisible chains are... the most effective
Wet Dreams - by Obama & Co ... this opens with a slide in English - [Link]
The slide appears to be quote of John Holdren Wki Snippets
RC
US population is now 330m ... 280m is just the Biden vote
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R.C.
This one is dubbed in English .. talking about an Earth that is increasing in size, where does oil come from and hollow Earth
Ever wonder why our ocean floors are the youngest sections of Earth surface
I once listened to a series of lectures on recent discoveries of the ocean floors by some university professor. (English I think). Extraordinary.
We should not expect it to be any different today
always remember Kids, if you cannot dazzle them with Brilliance, Baffle them with Bullshit.
I know a song about that.
It requires a straight back and a clear head in order to dance to it....[Link]
Your avatar aim ๐ฏ was NOT in the ๐ of the ๐.
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The solar retrograde cycle and ice ages
This is in reference to an article I posted earlier today, that Saturn and Jupiter are about to do something not seen since the year 1226. Jupiter and Saturn about to do something not seen since...[Link]
Dr. Andreas Noack arrested in brutal display of German lockdown police state
A doctor in Germany, Dr. Andreas Noack, was arrested by the Police on Wednesday in what appears to be a gross violation of personal liberty. The reason for his arrest is not yet clear but he was...J. Geils Band - Give It To Me (Full Version; Lyrics in Description) - YouTube
Janis Joplin - Move Over lyrics - YouTube
Tove Lo - Habits (Stay High) - YouTube
then our only recourse will be a duel at dawn.