The idea comes from a book of the same name by historian/economist/demographer Neil Howe and author William Strauss. Their overall theory is called "generational theory", and Bannon is a proponent of their work. So let's see what they have to say.
Howe did an interview with Erico Matias Tavares of Sinclair & Co. back in July of 2015. In it he explains that a "turning" is a unit of history, roughly that of a social generation, i.e. around 20 years or so. Each generation interacts with the ones before it, and the ones that come after, so the cycle is tied to the biological life cycles of the people living in them - the character of their parents, how they're raised, how they react to the older generation, how they influence the world once they themselves become parents and leaders, rinse and repeat. Each generation is a product of the last, but also reacts against it in significant ways, setting a culture on a slightly new, or radically new, path.
But there seems to be some regularity in how these interactions between generations play out. By studying generations of American and world history, Howe and Strauss began to see a pattern, "a certain order". This cycle is punctuated by crises, e.g., the American Revolution, the Civil War, the Great Depression. Howe and Strauss observed that the cycle seems to repeat every four generations, so roughly every 80 to 90 years. Coincidentally or not, the Soviet Union lasted roughly three generations (1922-1991), and it was another 8 years or so before Putin came into power at the end of the crisis of the 90s.
The first turning is the "high" following a crisis, when collective mentality is strong and societies rebuild on a new foundation, e.g., the period following the Great Depression and WWII up to the death of JFK in 1963. Or, by contrast, the period of the formation of the Soviet Union in 1922 after the October Revolution, up until WWII, when Russian society was radically reshaped by the Soviets.
By contrast, the second turning is an "awakening", where individualism begins to confront and outstrip the conformity of the previous generation. This period sees revitalizations of religion, values, and art, e.g., the consciousness revolution of the 60s and 70s in the U.S. Even totalitarian Russia had an awakening of sorts during Khrushchev's "Thaw" in the 50s (that's when Solzhenitsyn was first published, for example), which saw some major scientific/technological innovations.
After that comes the "unraveling", where people just want to enjoy what they've built. Institutions stagnate, and people see them as weak and untrustworthy. In the U.S., this was the 80s and 90s, including the culture war and economic boom. The USSR had Brezhnev's "Era of Stagnation" (1964-1985).
After that, when the vast majority of those who lived through the last crisis are dead or retired, comes the next "crisis". For the Soviet Union, this was the era of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, the dismemberment of the Soviet Union and the catastrophic 90s where Russia was economically raped by a criminal gang of liberal oligarchs (I know, "criminal" and "liberal" are synonyms in Russian!). Howe describes the crisis period as one driven by "the sense of collective urgency to solve a dire problem which is perceived to threaten the very future existence of this society", often but not always characterized by war. "The economy, politics, empire, technology, infrastructure" are torn down then remade. And the crisis isn't necessarily good or bad. Howe says it's like a forest fire: "It burns away the brush and allows new seedlings to grow."
We intuitively capture the essence of a generation in the name we give it: for example, the high's Baby Boomers, the awakening's Generation X, the unraveling's Millennials (Howe and Strauss came up with that last one, by the way), and the crisis's Generation Z. Howe thinks the U.S.'s fourth turning began in 2008, as the Boomers retired, the Gen X-ers were entering mid-life, the Millennials were coming of age, and the economy crashed.
Howe doesn't presume to know the future. When it comes to predictions, this model is best at anticipating trends, not specific events. For example, crises can come at any time, especially if they're sourced from outside the culture in question. For example, Russia entered WWII at the end of a first turning. 9/11 came near the end of a third turning. Howe calls these types of events "sparks" - events like Pearl Harbor, the assassination of JFK, 9/11. They can happen at any time; no one can predict them. What can be predicted are the likely responses. 9/11 could've been the trigger for a massive WWII-style crisis, but it came at the tail end of an unraveling. A similar event today would be different. If the people responsible for 9/11 were hoping for a bigger response, they were about 10-20 years too early.
Now consider what Howe has to say in light of Trump's election:
"It's amazing if you look back at the prior 20 years how little we have done in any way to legislate and form a collective public policy to change even the basic direction, or just adjust the direction, of our country.That's the gist of the fourth turning, at least. So what are the media saying about Bannon's views?
This is typical. We have seen eras like that before in American history and what happens - and what people forget - is that public history does not always move in the same way. Decades go by and then suddenly certain events hit, and everything changes on a dime. Huge changes occur! And it's almost like a seismic event, you know, suddenly the tectonic plates collide..."
Bannon of the Trumpocalypse
You can get an idea of the mainstream coverage by reading the following headlines and noticing that the major articles on Bannon and the fourth turning all clustered at the beginning of February:
- Huffington Post (Feb. 8, 2017): Steve Bannon Believes The Apocalypse Is Coming And War Is Inevitable
- Business Insider (Feb. 2, 2017): Steve Bannon's obsession with a dark theory of history should be worrisome
- The Nation (Feb. 8, 2017): Steve Bannon Wants To Start World War III
But as Andres Perezalonso writes in the piece mentioned at the beginning of this article, sometimes a prediction of the future can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. So even if Bannon may not want to start WWIII, it's always possible that he or others will bring it about simply by virtue of the fact that they believe it's coming. As Bannon himself says in the video included in the HuffPo piece, he sees the West's current crisis as a crisis "of the underpinnings of the Judeo-Christian West and our beliefs". And he does seem to see a massive war as an inevitability. Or at least he did a couple of years ago - if Clinton had won, he may have been right.
In a piece for Time, historian David Kaiser, relates an anecdote about his experience being interviewed by Bannon for a documentary, Generation Zero:
"Meanwhile, however, two other dangers lurkโone of them embodied in my most vivid memory of my own encounter with Bannon.Sounds a tad obsessive to me, which raises the possibility that a self-fulfilling prophecy might just be made reality. Howe himself says the biggest concerns he sees facing the U.S. this time around are "underproduction, undercapacity, deflation, currency wars, demographics, and falling birthrates", which coincidentally tie in with many Trump policies.
When I was first exposed to Strauss and Howe I began thinking how their ideas explained the histories of other countries as well, and during our interview, I mentioned that crises in countries like France in the 1790s and Russia after 1917 had led to reigns of terror. Bannon included those remarks in the final cut of Generation Zero.
A second, more alarming, interaction did not show up in the film. Bannon had clearly thought a long time both about the domestic potential and the foreign policy implications of Strauss and Howe. More than once during our interview, he pointed out that each of the three preceding crises had involved a great war, and those conflicts had increased in scope from the American Revolution through the Civil War to the Second World War. He expected a new and even bigger war as part of the current crisis, and he did not seem at all fazed by the prospect.
I did not agree, and said so. But, knowing that the history of international conflict was my own specialty, he repeatedly pressed me to say we could expect a conflict at least as big as the Second World War in the near or medium term. I refused."
I suppose it's possible to give Bannon the benefit of the doubt. Back when he made his most alarming statements, he could have been simply predicting the natural course of things and trying to scare people into making the changes necessary in order to stop it. But if he is single-minded about predicting what amounts to World War III, and even wants to encourage it in order to be in place to rebuild from the ashes, that's concerning, to say the least. I think a more responsible approach is to be open to all possibilities, but take all steps to avoid a major crisis or mitigate the fall-out, as Russia has done for the last several years in the face of constant American aggression. Prepare for the worst, work towards the best. There are steps that can be taken.
With any hope, Trump's win could stave off a major crisis. Like him or not, he was the anti-war candidate. A Clinton win would have been business as usual, and business as usual was taking the U.S. straight into catastrophe at full speed. Tackling underproduction, undercapacity, deflation, demographics, infrastructure, etc. could be the steps the U.S. needs to take in order to sidestep a major collapse that would otherwise force those things to be prioritized. In other words, Trump could pre-empt such a crisis, if he's successful. In which case, his election and current unpopularity could be the extent of the crisis. But inertia creeps, and opposition to Trump may actually end up precipitating a crisis, especially if the traitorous deep state has its way with him.
The thing is, Bannon seems to get a lot right. He's not crazy for seeing a current crisis, and the danger that it will get worse. And the American system is long overdue for a good re-structuring. The tricky part is that, as Kaiser points out above, chaos is a dangerous thing. The "new order" can be better than what came before. Or it can be a nightmare. Without the right kind of knowledge, it's hard to predict which way it will go, and even harder to prevent a catastrophe. The fourth turning is useful, but it's incomplete. In Parts 2 and 3, I'll round out the picture.
Continued in Part 2: Happiness, Hedonism, Horror - Repeat
Reader Comments
Nature experiences the 6th extinction in this time.
A little ice age would cause massive starvation and collapse of society. Some areas of the planet that are now urban areas will no longer be habitable. What happens then? Crawl back into the caves (again)?
Off topic but if you haven't already, I suggest checking our Randall Carlson [Link]
*With apologies to Lord Rockingham's XI....[Link]
Its like that experiment in quantum physics with the particle that is 2 places at once but when you look at it, it doesn't behave that way... paraphrasing here as I'm no physicist.
So I would hazard a guess that no apocalyptic event will unfold in the shape of nuclear conflagration. What will happen is the definition of these events will change...
So WW3 will be fought differently - information wars, proxy wars, trade wars, currency wars etc rather than the traditional image of war that we have where half or more of the world is engulfed in apocalyptic, millions of people dying in trenches sort of war.
Change is inevitable but its gradual e.g. look at the world today compared to the 50's... it's all gradual. In the 50s, globalisation, multi culturalism, smart phones etc would have appeared like strange things. So I hazard the guess that we'll have changes enacted or which are currently being enacted but to get a clear view of what they are, you need the distance of time to be able to look back and see rather clearly... but then using this to predict the future might not be so easy as the act of having seen what happened and why might affect what could happen and why going forward.... Which in my opinion is why no one can consistently and accurately predict the future despite having an army of highly intelligent people who study the past to the microscopic level. :D
I am familiar with Howe and Strauss. I think that what brought Trump in to office is the same thing which brought FDR in to office: It's a crisis of trust to begin with. The grey champion assumes command in these periods, and that's the old wise experienced man, which is Donald Trump, and the crisis we are facing is another insolvency.
Strauss & Howe were economists and historians who attempted to make some sense out of the seemingly convoluted twists of history. While I believe there is great value in their work, it must also be understood that the circumstances which create the turnings are not a product of nature, but rather the result of interdictions by people with wealth, resources, and a superior education to comprehend cattle herding as applied to the human species, and across vast stretches of time. So much so that their plans are themselves generational and are bound up in preservation of their own kind. These being the unseen and largely unknown families of titanic fortunes.
I think that Bannon would have it right normally, but the traditional path taken is not available to the cattle herding crowd, and I say this because there is now a fundamental change which is on-going in how people (the cattle) obtain their information and hence their idea's and beliefs. This is why the lame stream is going nuts, it's why google has changed it's algorithm's to censor out and to try to control where searches lead to on the net. So I'm not sure about this idea that War is inevitable. In the past I would absolutely agree. So I'm more in agreement with you on this.
There may be a war, but I think it will be a surprising kind of war and not the one the controllers want or expected. Unlike all of previous history I'd say that it is the people whom are aware now, whilst the would be rulers are the ones oblivious and out of sync. I do not think that people will support another global war, they certainly won't be lining up at recruitment centers like they did the day after Pearl Harbor, and I don't think they much care any longer about a whole lot of things, especially the Royal Edicts coming out of DC, their own State Capitols, or the illegal and treasonous Sanctuary Cities with the puppet minions there doing their own little rendition of I wanna be somebody.
As always, the other comments are spot on with observations, and I think all of them valid ones. We are on the dawn of new ice age, which as we here all realize is actually where our planet spends 90% of it's galactic time, and the crash into such ice ages is always preceded by sharp rises in planetary temps. The war will break out when it's realized that the intend of the cattle herding crowd is mass death, that their chemtrail spraying is designed to bring on an ice age to the maximum effect, that their plan is to kill the oceans with radioactive waste, to make the food from the sea poisonous, to pollute the water sheds with fracking, to enslave the survivors of with control over food and water. The war may will come then, it may well come once it is realized that energy harvesting technology, or so called zero point sources of power were solved long ago but kept as state secrets. So none of what has happened needed to happen. It only happens because it benefits those cattle herding mass murdering families. Eight of whom now possess half the planetary wealth. So maybe war will come, but I agree it may not be assured and it may not be the same kind of war that Bannon thinks is coming.
When do they 8 families start eying up each other ... eventually they will have no one else to steal from .... though not for a long time
It's the slave resources that provide their wealth ... cashless societies are going to be a cash cow for them as they hoover up a good chunk of the remaining 50% that they can't get at present
I don't think that this prophecy is that difficult to predict and is probably not far off from becoming reality.
The only "benefit" is that Gen Z can be sent off to die in foreign lands and the PTB can continue their morbid grip on the reins
The so called war is happening now, and has been for a long time. Whether its financial, proxy wars, terrorists, propaganda, or direct military conflict. The hot war is more like a boil that erupts. The boil is still there, before and after it erupts. So the current "war" has been going on for at least 200 years, maybe much longer. The US/Zionist imperial design for control of the planet seems to be following Gurdjieffs law of seven, or octaves. There are intervals between notes, and if a shock isn't applied at these intervals, the line changes direction and loses momentum. The consequence is that whatever was intended in the begining, is not where one ends up. Its a natural law. The generations and the fourth turning could be the same law in action. Degeneration.
So maybe the shock of 9/11 was not applied at the " correct " step? Not at an interval in the given octave?
What utter crap.
The zillion and one cast iron predictions that Killary would win the 2016 U.S. election. Wacko Paco Rabanne's prophecy that The Mir Space Station would land on Paris. The expected year 2000 malfunction of every computer on the planet. 2012 and all that. I could go on and on and on. It's probably more accurate to say that hardly any prophecies are self-fulfilling.
Conscious shocks are applied by conscious men, graeme15b. Watch therefore: for ye know not the day, nor the hour.
I would just like to add that;
Uncertainty and fear factors connected to predictions/prophecies are highly exploitable and are a good way of enforcing mind control and insecurity or fake security in the public mind.
Short term predictions are only exploitable short term so make it a good one if that's your aim.
If proven false you're doomed...but be aware of the "Calling Wolf" syndrome and the public "apathy" that can set in which can also be exploited by the PTB.
Long term predictions/prophecies are usually the most dangerous & most exploitable/profitable...
For example Predictions/Prophecies such as...Watch therefore...For ye know not the day, nor the hour...can be exploited till the proverbial Kingdom Come.
Whether it comes or not is true or not is irrelevant...The belief that it will/could happen can lead to some major consequences on behalf of this Prophecy ...but only due the "actions" taken so as to force or propagandize that prophecy in the "belief" that that prophecy can and will become a reality if certain are actions taken.
Easily, and currently, exploited and potentially DEADLY...
So if Predicting or Prophesying be careful of joining the dots on the page as the page or the dots can change without you realizing it.
Sorry HFL..Couldn't help my self..
Signed ..The Conscietious Observer..
The right line out of the so-called New Testament is as good as the right quote from a Lord Rockinghm's XI record to me, which doesn't make me a so-called post-modernist, it just means that I live in life. LOL.
I guess I'm just sort of wondering out loud. Mainly about white hats amongst the black hats in relation to a lot of these completely inexplicable events that are rationalised par excellence and then only spoken about in relation to those rationalisations: what generally gets called 'history'. The fall of The Berlin Wall. The failure of The U.S. to unseat Assad. The Brexit vote. The Killary flop. That kind of thing. Things that run directly contrarywise to what is sometimes referred to as 'predictive programming'.
But we're on the same wavelength.
I do have trouble accepting Trump's election win was an accident...It's too big a deal for that to me.
I must admit that my great prediction was Killary so I was wrong there.
I certainly didn't expect that much of a protest vote.
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Isn't that a bit odd? But still and anyway.....here is how it goes:
You now will invent every sort of story. You will sell these stories. People will buy. Later, as you perhaps squirm (just a wee bit)--but still very very excited (Red Rum)--you will invent more stories that purport to 'undo' the earlier stories. You will sell these, too. People will buy. They want to buy, they want what they think you have. They think that you have power and ability and control. They think you are TOP COMMAND SHIT and that they can, by following you, be too. Wow!!
But here is the real news, the 'real story':
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And all you have created, REALLY, is a bloody mess.
THE RED RUM BUSINESS.
And you have yourself a nice day, all you wonderful Red Rum workers and leaders.
And tell this 'story' to your friends.
ned,
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Where is nedlud?
Why is nedlud?
How is nedlud?
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Were Political Science and Science your favorite school subjects.
Thanks for the article Harrison, looking forward to the next parts.
Yes, this tends to the self-fulfilling prophecy. It sounds 'radical' but it is an expression of those who have no confidence that they could win the allegiance of mass support. It is an elitists perspective. We have to do it for you. The old Russian Peoples Will. The Secret Germany against Hitler.
Perhaps 'protest vote' is also something of a rationalisation.
"The glueing of both is just a ruse to pull away Christian philosophy from its natural centre and make it complicit of the Jewish view of the world, thus using Christians as unwitting allies in the Jewish scheming. They become useful idiots in the fabricated "clash of civilizations", a Neocon/Jewish concoction which is just another step to continued chaos."
To use a faulty but handy enough pre-existing meta-rationalisation, isn't it more like:
"This is not a pawn shop. If I buy this ring now, you can't redeem it later, do you understand?"
Verity falls to Earth, forgets its mission, becomes trapped in third density, succumbs to drunkenness, wonders where the time went....[Link]
They are all about belief and are not in the slightest bit interested in the truth.
Matter of fact truth logic & reason are an insult to them.
Just dumb Goys used as pawns.
If memory serves me right that's around 80 million potential fanatical voters in these churches alone.
" By the Rivers of Babylon...There we sat down...Yeah we wept...When we remembered Zion"
Thanks Harrison, look forward to the next installments. It gives a bit more insight into some of the thinking behind Bannon and thus possibly to Trump.