karl nell
At a prestigious New York City investment event, Colonel Karl Nell, a distinguished retired military chief formerly associated with the U.S. government's Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) Task Force, asserted unequivocally that non-human intelligence exists, is interacting with humanity, and that unelected government bureaucrats are aware of this.

Speaking at the 'SALT iConnections New York 2024' event in a conversation with Alex Klokus, Founder and Managing Partner at the SALT Fund, Nell stated:
"So, non-human intelligence exists, non-human intelligence has been interacting with humanity. This interaction is not new, and it's been ongoing, and unelected people in the government are aware of that."
Asked by Klokus how confident he was with the statement, Nell responded, "There's zero doubt."

Nell, whose experience includes roles at Bell Telephone Laboratories and Lockheed Martin Missiles & Space, provided several reasons for the government's reluctance to acknowledge the existence of non-human intelligence and the potential presence of alleged illegal retrieval and reverse engineering programs.

These include:
  • National security concerns
  • Lack of a concrete plan
  • Potential for societal disruption
  • Possibility of non-public agreements - potentially with forms of higher non-human intelligence, although Nell did not directly say this, sources have told Liberation Times that such agreements exist
  • Potential misdeeds and the desire to cover them up
  • Basic organizational intransigence and lack of priority on the topic.
Nell emphasized that the national security issue is the most significant, suggesting it could be managed similarly to nuclear energy, which is not classified but carefully controlled.

According to Nell, the absence of a plan and the potential for societal disruption makes it irresponsible for leaders to release information without proper means to address it responsibly.

However, Nell highlighted the significant opportunities and the potentially catastrophic dangers of lacking a plan to disclose the existence of non-human intelligence, which may account for some UAP sightings.

These include:
  • Moral Right: People have a fundamental right to know the nature of reality, which is essential for the pursuit of happiness. If there are misdeeds or a lack of proper oversight, these need to be addressed and corrected.
  • Proactive Disclosure: Being proactive is preferable to being reactive. Reactive attempts to prevent disclosure can lead to catastrophic, uncontrolled revelations. A balanced, controlled disclosure is the best approach to managing potential problems.
  • Societal Advancement and Competitiveness: Bringing more expertise into the discussion can foster progress and improve society, enhancing global competitiveness in the process.
Nell compared the potential consequences of a catastrophic disclosure, in the minds of a lot of people, to the Bronze Age collapse, which swiftly led to the downfall of several advanced civilizations, including Egypt, the Hittite Empire, the Minoan Empire, and the Babylonian Empire.

Referencing Eric Cline's book '1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed', Nell said:
"Within a single lifetime, all of the very effective ancient civilizations of the Bronze Age failed, due to a confluence of reasons that are not necessarily fully understood today. So we're talking about Egypt, the Hittite Empire, the Minoan Empire....the Babylonian Empire: All these civilizations failed, never to return, other than Egypt.

"And so these are highly sophisticated civilizations with highly developed infrastructures, highly developed administrative states. They were globalist in a sense very similar to today."
He added:
"And yet these civilizations failed in a single lifetime, because of stressors that these civilizations collectively could not address within the timeframe.

"And so if we look at our society today, one might argue that it's similarly fractured, similarly under economic stress, similarly under cultural stress as well, fractured and fragile diplomatic situation, it mirrors very much this scenario. And so for a responsible decision-maker, that's certainly a factor."
Nell highlighted the destabilizing potential of disclosure by citing the example of devout religious people being "confronted with the reality of your religious belief system, like the reality of the metaphysical, an angel, a messenger from God."

Nell added:
"That's going to be a sea state change in your in your way of dealing with reality, even though you already believe it. So it's one thing to believe and it's another to know."
When pressed on whether non-human intelligence could be a threat to humanity, Nell summarised, "to assume either mal intent or complete altruism, I think is somewhat naïve."

Nell argued that a "more balanced middle path of controlled disclosure" is the best way to handle the process.

Following the hollowing out of the UAP Disclosure Act (UAPDA) — which originally included a proposed independent review board to oversee UAP information disclosure, rather than leaving this responsibility solely with the Pentagon and intelligence community — Nell warned that the U.S. risks being "preempted by another party," which Liberation Times understands to be China, and stressed that collective cooperation would be more beneficial.

When asked whether there is an international race to reverse-engineer non-human technology and if such technology could provide a tremendous strategic advantage to the first nation to do so, Nell agreed, suggesting it could destabilize the world.

Despite the failure to include the UAPDA, proposed by Senate Leader Chuck Schumer and Senator Mike Rounds, in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2024, Nell remains optimistic that similar language could be reintroduced. He commented, "Hopefully, we'll see maybe a reintroduction of some version of that this summer."

The passing of such language could pave the way for controlled disclosure instead of catastrophic disclosure. If included in draft versions of the NDAA and Intelligence Authorization Act expected in the coming weeks, it will still face significant challenges.

Private interests vigorously oppose any mention of eminent domain, and fierce opposition from House Intelligence Committee Chair Mike Turner remains a major issue.

Another challenge includes potential hostile witnesses in high government positions involved in UAP illegalities, who may attempt to thwart the controlled disclosure process to protect their own interests.