"We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn"
As I noted elsewhere, nothing is black and white. No one is a saint including us. No one is completely conscious, we all have filters that distort reality.
LindaMay I would not use the word "liars" because I connect that to an intention to deceive and manipulate , like psychopaths would use it. In other words, "lying" is conscious. Klaus the louse knows what he is saying.
I would say, until we become conscious, we have belief systems that mislead us and lead to choices, speech and thoughts that are incorrect, in error. In my view, we all have been taught the "scientific materialism" belief system. Regardless of our current efforts to be free of it, we aren't free of it completely.
Meaning, may I re-member who I AM (God be with me/I am with you) using my mind of course, and not let me let my mind "not leave" my SPIRIT by jumping into temptation (acquiese, slip, give into) without awareness (my consciousness, inner compass). That can become our LIE, 'falsehood or un-truth'.
In my view DW, we ALL (the live humans) are equipped with a universal inner compass.
As the saying goes 'USE it or lose it'
Lying can be intentional or unintentional. Unintentional lying often occurs when a person believes something to be true but it turns out to be false. This can happen due to misunderstandings, misinformation, memory errors, or plane laziness. A lie is an untruth, a falsehood regardless how one gets/got there. To lie 'down' to position oneself horizontally on a bed. Funny how both meanings of lie go 'no where'.
One cannot assume/suppose (4Agreements) one is lying unless one has the certitude. One cannot assume anyone has the capability to discern, discriminate (meaning first-of-all being equipped with having the gift of choice itself, for starters) if the 'one' is a non-human aka zombie.
Btw today is Friday folks, and tomorrow Saturday. Be extra vigilant.
"We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn"