Effects of DMT can mimic near-death experience

Yeah it'll mimic a near-death experience, coz it can nearly kill you!

Drugs are bad kids, especially hallucinogens.

@Niall - The only thing 'bad' and what 'can nearly kill you' is ignarance like your comment. And when I say ignorant I don't mean that as a criticism - just straight lack of knowledge and lack of insight.

Sorry Naill, It appears you may be expressing a belief that you've been indoctrinated to believe is true, rather than speaking from personal experience of what you Know to be true.

Also, there are numerous studies showing great benefits from these substances for treating depression, anxiety, and relieving the fear of death in cancer patients, to name just a few.

"Sorry Naill, It appears you may be expressing a belief that you've been indoctrinated to believe is true."

HAH HAH HAH. That's you, Blisslife, and anyone else who's ever been wheeler-dealered into that whole Terence-McKenna-Timothy-Leary-storming-the-gates-of-heaven-'evolution'-via-the-act-of-smashing-all-the-eggs-in-your-basket-and-throwing-every-baby-out-with-the-bathwater bullshittery culture.

Dr. Rick Strassman did this type of research in the early 90's and wrote a book about it titled: DMT: The spirit Molecule.

Funny how Mr. Lute talks about throwing out the baby with bathwater when he does the same - since Blisslife was talking about personal experience - not other commonly known authors/speakers. But as with Nial, Lute is the same - just a tad too thick.

You're obviously too thick to have noticed that nowhere in Blisslife's post did he say he was talking about his own personal experience, but assuming he was, how did he arrive at that state of affairs if not via the remnant cultural slurry of the aforementioned societal well-poisoners? (at least one of whom, as everyone should know by now, was a CIA payrolled useful/useless idiot Johnny Poison Appleseed pathological dupe and duper).

The most nefarious ideological residue left from the so-called Sixties so-called counter-culture is that if-you-smash-your-own-pot-you'll-be-free, and you can see that kind of nonsense in everything from David Icke videos to the miles of people living in cardboard boxes on an average everyday city jaunt.

This idea, which probably emanates from the toppermost of the greasy pole, is temptation high for people who want the results of work-on-oneself without actually doing any work, and quite obviously the results are always the opposite of what was intended. i.e. all trick no treat.

@lut - "You're obviously too thick to have noticed that nowhere in Blisslife's post did he say he was talking about his own personal experience,"

Haha...yeah, and I didn't say he was talking about his own personal experience...which is why you are thick lol.

@Nial - " BabaJaiy All this drug-taking since the 60s has produced about as much insight as a gaggle of giggling teenagers at the mall."

Well I could accept that, if you can convince me you know what your talking about...but so far you haven't. "Drug taking"...that's the first clue you don't know...you call it a drug which shows your ignorance bias...secondly, since the 60's ? lol, thousands of years is more like it. And you know how much insight people have or have not gained? No you haven't lol.

"Blisslife was talking about personal experience - not other commonly known authors/speakers."

Well what personal experience is that then?

You're a bit thick BabaJaiy, and like a lot of thick people, you're easily tempted into walking off the end of two short planks in order to prove to everyone else that they're as thick as you are.

As he hasn't been back to clarify his Are You Experienced allusion, readers could quite easily be left with the impression that actually, maybe Blisslife hasn't taken any jungle drugs at all, and that maybe he's a T-shirt wearer, a poseur, a psychopharmacopeial virgin who likes to brag about getting laid. This isn't helped by his new age kitsch-y choice of nom de geurre and the fact that he is quite obviously unable to resist putting a capital K on the front end of the word 'Knowing'. As in 'F for Fake'.

Similar applies to your own talking loud and saying zip-all rant, BabaJaiy. Have you ever been experienced? probably not, or we'd all be hearing about it.

Unmarried marriage guidance counsellers. Jeezus, you can't get on the bus for 'em.

Interesting how high the emotions are running on this discussion. Let me pose a question to all:

I just arrived from Mars, and have never eaten a banana. Can anyone here explain to me what a banana tastes like?

No you can't, except to tell me, "You have to try it for yourself, then you will ever after know the taste of banana, whether it be banana ice cream, or banana bread, or a banana milkshake. Once you have experienced the taste, you will remember it and recognize it when you taste it again. But nobody can explain it to you in words."

Second, how do we know that what I experience as the taste of a banana is what you experience as the taste of a banana? I have a friend who hates the taste of cardamom, which I love, in Indian food. I have another who cannot abide cucumbers. And another who hates cilantro, which is in most Mexican food, which I adore. Personally, I hate rosemary, which most people love, and is a staple of Italian cooking. Are we all experiencing the same taste in these spices and foods? There is no way to know.

How does a color-blind person see the world? They must wonder to themselves how we non-color-blind people see the world. What is the color red?? What is the color green?? What are the insects seeing with their compound eyes which can see ultra-violet? Flowers reflect ultra-violet, so the insects must see the flowers lit up like lamps against the foliage, which we can not see.

You can ask five people who have watched the same event to describe what happened, and get five different - radically different - stories. Criminal justice professionals know this - it is taught in criminal justice courses.

So, much of this discussion above is utterly subjective opinion, which will inevitably vary from one person to another. If we could accept this fact - that each of us sees and experiences a different and unique world that nobody else can see or experience - and stop trying to convince each other that our particular perspective is the correct one - a lot of the violence and dissension in our world would become pointless and a lot of the heated discussions, such as the one above, would be abandoned.

The scientists themselves, doing their research and presenting it as incontrovertible fact, instead of their own opinion or interpretation of their observations, are just as guilty of observer bias as the religious nut, who believes Jonah lived three days in the belly of a whale, bathed in hydrochloric acid. Perhaps Jonah did - all we can say for sure is that the story is highly unlikely, given all the facts we all can agree on.

awesome, where can i order some? want it now please!!

Drugs are dangerous, and excepting a medical situation, shouldn't be used. I would even say cannabis is harmful. One can debate whether ones personal experience varies with another, and so on. Still, look at the world today, and ask yourself, what has improved since the 1960s?

Take drugs ... you don't have to live your whole life in the matrix

"DMT, can have the same effects as a near-death experience, British scientists at the Imperial College London have suggested. "

Doesn't sound like these British scientists know anything for sure, and are largely speculating. One would think that investigating those that had experienced both ayahuasca AND the NDE would be more definitive.

"Dr Robin Carhart-Harris, who oversaw the study, said: "These findings are important as they remind us that near-death experiences occur because of significant changes in the way the brain is working, not because of something beyond the brain. "

Dr Carhart-Harris is an idiot, and apparently quite ignorant of the NDE scenario. Robin would do well to spend some time at iANDS and interviewing Dr Raymond Moody. This is merely another doctor who is convinced that consciousness and personality reside in the brain, ignoring the findings by others about the brain's connection to the quantum world of physics.

OK, so there are four contributors, Blisslife, BabaJaiy, Agnosco and prehistoric, all proselytising in favour of this DMT garbage, various of whom have hurled around accusations at the unconvinced of being 'indoctrinated', 'not Knowing', and all the usual sorts of deluded hippyfied high horse-turdage, but their continuing silence and refusal to answer questions over these matters indicate strongly that NONE OF THEM HAVE EVEN TAKEN IT THEMSELVES, probably 'cause they're nothing but a bunch of non-being, do-nothing, fifth-pleading, T-shirt wearing poseurs content to dream vicariously in the toxic sludge of Agent Leary's outdated cultural worm-trails.

"Take drugs ... you don't have to live your whole life in the matrix."

That's funny. That's exactly what a true 2D flat-Earth-dimwit would say, HashAttack2.

LOL. I lived through that whole Rave period in London when I was, at least from a pharmaceutical point of view, one of the only more-or-less sober judges in a night-and-day-life neighbourhood of folk who were taking acid and genu-MDMA several days a week. Psychedelic frog-lickers, brain-machine sales-persons, you name it. Even now, I know people who go on those Ayhahuasca weekenders. I've got no moral objection to people having a laff with all this kind of stuff. It's none of my business. What I do object to though, is the more-or-less completely erroneous idea that is constantly pushed by God-particle gurus and the like, that taking LSD or jungle drugs can somehow contribute to a persons evolution. As Mr Gurdjieff pointed out, the equipment in your attic is intacto, it doesn't need anything doing to it. Forcing the lock and putting strange liquids in the machinery (or 'cosmic mechanism', if you prefer) - you might easily break something, if indeed you actually have any such machinery in your attic to break in the first place, which, looking at some of the comments on this thread, is probably a moot point in a lot of cases.

"Attics get full of crap ... some drugs can be a useful torch".

Such as?

You're full of crap, HashAttack2. You're yet another one of these hapless fake news drug-culture identity politicians protelytising for DMT when you've probably never even taken anything remotely like it.

For all I know, you, Blisslife, BabaJaiy, Agnosco and prehistoric have never even smoked a joint before. Maybe you're all just happy to find a home as lowly unpaid extras in someone else's agenda. Maybe it makes you feel 'hip'. Good luck with that. I mean, honestly, HashAttack2, look at your avatar, look at your AKA. How low, gauche and brainless is that?

"alcohol isn't one of them."

Oh grow up.

Drugs are look humour : you can have it, but not with anyone.

It is one thing to hear about someone's experience on ayahuasca or mushees, and it's a radicaly different thing to HAVE IT and EXPERIENCE it in your flesh. But again, it depends on who you are and what you are up to.

I would have thought that this article rather pointed out the stupidity of scientists when they try to explain the effect of DMT in such a dogmatic materialism way.

Sorry guys, but these products CAN REALLY open up things, they can REALLY show you hidden aspects of life, hidden knowledge and in some case valuable answers, and they also can cure you from various conditions to a certain extent.

instead of spitting on these, we should rather work together in order to understand HOW and WHY.