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'Extremely rare' case of dengue virus found in California

Chris Eberhart
Fox News
Sat, 21 Oct 2023 11:25 UTC

The first locally acquired case of dengue virus — often referred to as "break-bone fever" — was contracted by a resident in Pasadena, California, public health officials said Friday.

This is the first locally acquired case of dengue virus in California that is not associated with travel, according to Manuel Carmona, the city of Pasadena's acting director of Public Health. It is "instead an extremely rare case of local transmission in the continental United States," and is spread by infected mosquito bites, Carmona said.

"The Pasadena Public Health Department is conducting surveillance, and field teams have visited a Pasadena neighborhood to offer information for preventing mosquito breeding around their homes and preventing bites," he said.

Based on years of surveillance and testing, Carmona said that this is "likely" an isolated incident, but the Pasadena Health Department has taken steps to ensure that it doesn't spread.

"The San Gabriel Valley Mosquito and Vector Control District has deployed traps to assess the mosquito population and, importantly, testing to date has not identified any Dengue infected mosquitos. Testing of mosquitos from additional traps will continue over the next few weeks. There is a very low risk of additional dengue exposure in the city."

Most dengue virus cases don't cause any symptoms, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

About one in four people who get sick typically have a high fever, headache, body aches, nausea and a rash, which lasts about one to two weeks, the CDC says.

Extreme cases — although very rare — can be fatal, according to the WHO. The CDC has estimated extreme dengue virus cases to be about one in 20. The strangest part about this particular case in Pasadena is that it was contracted by someone who had not traveled.

While the virus is rare in the U.S., about half of the world's population is at risk of dengue, according to the WHO, particularly people living in tropical and subtropical climates.

Virtually every case in the U.S. has been found in travelers. Last year, there were 67 cases of locally acquired dengue virus: two were in Arizona, and 65 in Florida, according to CDC statistics.

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codis · 2023-10-24T14:01:41Z

'Extremely rare' case of dengue virus found in California

That's interesting.

Let's see the "virus".

Dwoods44 · 2023-10-24T14:56:32Z

codis Right. The first question with "rare" illness in Pasadena, CA, is were they vaxxed, and how many times.

codis · 2023-10-24T16:12:41Z

Dwoods44

Most dengue virus cases don't cause any symptoms, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

...

Extreme cases — although very rare — can be fatal, according to the WHO.

I wonder what else distinguishes the "no symptoms" group from the fatal one's. Since it is an older "disease", probably not the undisclosed clot-shot-rate.

While the virus is rare in the U.S., about half of the world's population is at risk of dengue, according to the WHO, The CDC has estimated extreme dengue virus cases to be about one in 20.

I wonder how the Gates-sponsored WHO gets from 5% (one out of 20) to 50%.

But I suppose this is the magick revealed in the book "How to Lie with statistics" that Billly owns and obvious studies ...

azigzagidiot · 2023-10-24T16:55:36Z

'Extremely rare' case of dengue virus found in California
That's interesting.

Let's see the "virus".

First Full-Length Genome Sequence of Dengue Virus Serotype 2 Circulating in Vietnam in 2017 [Link]

Or, are you a strict empiricist on this issue?

codis · 2023-10-24T17:10:34Z

azigzagidiot No, real scientific facts.

I want to see them freestanding, separated from <any> substrate.

azigzagidiot · 2023-10-24T22:18:16Z

codis Like the fact that Dengue is characterizable as a single-strand of RNA composed of a sequence not found in the human DNA genome?

[...]At the conclusion of the fourth passage, the DENV-infected cell-culture supernatant (SN-4P)[ed.:4th culture passage] was centrifuged at 3,200 x g during 10 min at 4°C to be clarified from cells in suspension and pre-filtrated at 0.22 μm . The clarified SN-4P was loaded onto Centricon Plus-70 CFD (Millipore, Germany) and physically concentrated by centrifugation at 3,200 x g at 4°C. For a maximum recovery and given the 50 nm diameter of the mature DENV particle, we used devices with 10 nm membrane pore size (100K NMWL). The concentrate was recovered by inverting the filter device and centrifugation at 1,000 x g during 2 min.[...]

[Link] Use of Centrifugal Filter devices to concentrate dengue virus in mosquio per os infection experimets Richard, V.; Viallon, J.; Cao-Lormeau, V.-M..

"1 µm = 1000 nm 1 nm = 0.001 µm" (readily available information from another source)

"At 0.1-5.0 µm(100-5000nm) in diameter, prokaryotic cells are significantly smaller than eukaryotic cells, which have diameters ranging from 10-100 µm(10,000-100,00nm)..." (sourced from a search)

In the study, pre-filtration at 0.22µm(220nm) is done to remove both: most of any possible contaminant prokaryotic cells, and, more pointedly, all the eukaryotic cells in which it was cultured. Later filtration by 10nm(0.01µm) membrane to trap 50nm virus particle against membrane, then recovered by inversion...

What is this filterable form that has a characteristic genome?

What hypothesis can explain this phenomenon: That this filterable form can be recovered from a hypothesized disease vector, which is seen to bloom seasonally and alongside disease incidence in people in certain populated areas? This disease process which, akin to malaria, has been greatly reduced in incidence when the purported vector is killed off by DDT and the populations therein can attest to these seasonal infections being reduced?

In the study detailed here:

It's raining viruses! Billions fall from the sky everyday

Billions of viruses fall from the sky every day, according to new research which could explain why genetically identical viruses are often found in very different environments around the world. In...

Organic material is collected atop the Sierra Nevada mountains in Spain. The methods of quantifcation are indirect, so you'll not see them directly here (where the authors infer that bacterial and viral material is present; though I have not thoroughly read this study), nor above in the centrifugal filtration study(unless they'd be nice enough to do an electron micrograph of their filtrate: all there'd be is Dengue and maybe some prokaryota). I think there is a point where an inference is to be made by the investigator (rationalism vs. empiricism). At least there is in this case where you'll not accept electron micrographs of reproduction using complex host cellular machinery.

Again, to put to you two pointed questions:

Do you agree there is such a thing as a "filterable agent" , now more commonly called "virus"?

Do you have any alternate hypothesis to explain the observed phenomenon of transmissible vector-borne diseases, or documented cases of increased disease incidence with common symptomology alongside the phenomenon of specific genetic material being found in increased proportions from disease sufferers, other than the germ theory?

Of course, we have proven nothing here, there is only evidence in support of a theory. I have almost no doubt your skepticism and that of Dwoods44 is well-founded. I, too, am skeptical of lying with statistics, and know that it takes conscientiousness to investigate the details in these studies or theories.

Charley Horse · 2023-10-24T23:43:32Z

azigzagidiot refer to JohnDukes below. Genetically modified mosquito releases, which has become common in the US make better logical sense than striving to connect mosquito borne diseases to mRNA injections.

azigzagidiot · 2023-10-25T00:38:03Z

Charley Horse Between June 24th and 29th this year there were two articles mentioning malaria cases in Florida; I see you commented on one of them. I'm aware of the Oxitec business. I categorically made no striving to connect mRNA injections and mosquito-borne diseases; I did intend to imply that the human genome is not being transcribed to messenger RNA that could be confused with the RNA sequences characteristic of virii (although RNA sequences can be incorporated into DNA via reverse transcriptase, so that claim can't be made with 100% certitude..).

In reference to your claim that SotT doesn't change anything, by aggregating and preserving a great deal of information it can be a catalyst for change if people can use the information to their benefit. You never responded to me about another erroneous claim you made about this website. I wonder where you got the idea that I was connecting vector-borne disease to mRNA injections to make such a misconstrual?

codis · 2023-10-25T05:51:25Z

azigzagidiot

Like the fact that Dengue is characterizable as a single-strand of RNA composed of a sequence not found in the human DNA genome?

...

Of course, we have proven nothing here, there is only evidence in support of a theory.

Not evidence, but indications.

A proper control experiment easily disproves this theory. Like, repeat the same so-called "isolation" process, but without adding any "virus infected" material. If the end result is identical, this proves the objects in question are an artifact of the process, NOT the alleged virus.

In fact, this control experiment had been done often, and always with the same result - you don't need to add anything to get the result we are shown.

As with the "consensus" of climate scientists about AGW, it is a mixture of the "appeal to authority" fallacy and confirmation bias that keeps such pseudo-scientific narratives alive.

We had this discussion already about 2 years ago, if I remember correctly. I see no necessity to repeat it. You can have your views, I'm fine with that.

... a single-strand of RNA composed of a sequence not found in the human DNA genome?

By the way, that could be Rhesus monkey DNA, as their liver is usually utilized as substate for the cell culture.

Or it could be cattle DNA, since "bovine serum" (a.k.a. cow blood) is commonly used as the culture medium.

Charley Horse · 2023-10-25T10:51:40Z

azigzagidiot Hey there Azzie, well, I saw that you responded on the string begun by Dwoods who questioned the vaxx connection and I was specifically responding to your statement to Codis where you said “Do you have any alternate hypothesis to explain the observed phenomenon of transmissible vector-borne diseases,” to which I responded as above. Sorry I upset you. As for the erroneous claim about this web site, I must have missed your question to me as I have probably many others. SOTT is an excellent aggregator and preserver of facts and I applaud you for making that explicitly clear however, Sott isn’t readily available to a wide audience due to rigged search engine algorithms and that is why SOTT doesn’t change anything, it is merely a hangout for people like us to vent thereby attenuating cultural mayhem such as was last seen in the 60’s. The PTB understand this better than they are given credit for and that is why there is no uprising by any generation on the radar. who knows, maybe one day Sott might exceed all expectation by becoming utilized as a source of facts when those who seek to control the world find themselves at the wrong end of the law. At this juncture we can only pray for that day to come.

codis · 2023-10-25T13:53:50Z

Charley Horse

... and I was specifically responding to your statement to Codis where you said “Do you have any alternate hypothesis to explain the observed phenomenon of transmissible vector-borne diseases ,” ...

I suppose I overlooked that statement.

There term " observed phenomenon of transmissible vector-borne diseases " is already wrong. Both of the mentioned properties " transmissibility " and " vector-borne " are hypotheses, NOT facts.

There are plenty of reports about proper scientific experiments that tried to prove transmissibility. Without success.

azigzagidiot · 2023-10-25T20:18:14Z

codis In fact, this control experiment had been done often, and always with the same result - you don't need to add anything to get the result we are shown.

Please provide evidence supporting the claim above.

[Link]

Cell Type Variability in the Incorporation of Lipids in the Dengue Virus Virion

Abstract

A lipid bilayer produced from the host membrane makes up around 20% of the weight of the dengue virus (DENV) virion and is crucial for virus entry. Despite its significance, the virion’s lipid composition is still poorly understood. In tandem with lipid profiles of the cells utilised to generate the virions, this work determined a partial lipid profile of DENV virions derived from two cell lines (C6/36[Ed.:this mosquito cell line is the same one used as cited above in the study concentrating virions by centrifugation and filtration; the points made above remain unaddressed] and LLC-MK2[Ed.: monkey cells]). The results showed distinctive profiles between the two cell types . In the mammalian LLC-MK2 cells, 30.8% (73/237 identified lipid species; 31 upregulated, 42 downregulated) of lipid species were altered in response to infection, whilst in insect C6/36 cells only 12.0% (25/208; 19 upregulated, 6 downregulated) of lipid species showed alterations in response to infection. For virions from LLC-MK2 cells, 14 lipids were detected specifically in virions with a further seven lipids being enriched (over mock controls) . For virions from C6/36 cells, 43 lipids were detected that were not seen in mock preparations, with a further 16 being specifically enriched (over mock control). These results provide the first lipid description of DENV virions produced in mammalian and mosquito cells, as well as the lipid changes in the corresponding infected cells.

Introduction

In this study, we examined the lipid content of DENV virions, the most common flavivirus, by analysing the lipid profile for three categories of lipids (SP, GP and GL) and using the appropriate mock-infected purified controls. To test whether virion composition differs when grown in insect or mammalian cells, we analysed viruses produced from the insect Aedes albopictus C6/36 cell line [22] and the mammalian rhesus monkey kidney LLC-MK2 cell line[Ed.:Oh, okay, now you mention it..] [23]. To determine if the virion composition reflects infection-induced changes in the cells, we also performed a similar analysis on the cells from which the viruses had been grown .

2. Materials and methods

2.1. Cells

C6/36 cells (ATCC CRL-1660) were cultured at 28 °C in minimum essential medium (MEM, GIBCO, Invitrogen. Grand Island, NY, USA) supplemented with 10% foetal bovine serum (FBS) and 100 units/mL of penicillin/streptomycin (GIBCO, Invitrogen. Grand Island, NY, USA). LLC-MK2 (ATCC CCL-7 [23]) cells were cultured at 37 °C with 5% CO2 in Dulbecco’s modified eagle’s medium (DMEM, GIBCO, Invitrogen. Grand Island, NY, USA) supplemented with 5% FBS and 100 units penicillin/streptomycin per mL.

2.2. Large Scale Virus Preparation

DENV serotype 2 (strain 16681; [24]) was separately propagated at a large scale in both C6/36 and LLC-MK2 cells, representative of mosquito and mammalian cells, respectively. Both sets of viruses were independently grown and purified in triplicate with parallel mock infections in 5 T175 flasks. After infection at a multiplicity of infection of 1 or mock infection, the cells were cultured at 28 °C and 37 °C for C6/36 and LLC-MK2, respectively. On day 3 (LLC-MK2) or day 6 (C6/36) post infection, the supernatant of the infected cells was harvested, and viruses were precipitated with 10% (w/v) PEG 8000 and 1.5 M NaCl at 4 °C overnight. After centrifugation, the viral pellet was resuspended in TNE buffer (10 mM Tris-HCl, pH 7.5, 140 mM NaCl, 1 mM EDTA) containing 10% (w/v) sucrose, layered onto a discontinuous sucrose step gradient of 30 and 60% sucrose (w/v) (providing a 10/30/60 step gradient at the start of centrifugation) and centrifuged at 82,705× g for 3.5 h. After centrifugation, the fraction immediately above the 60% sucrose cushion was collected, diluted with TNE and viruses were pelleted by ultracentrifugation at 82,705× g for 1.5 h in an SW28 rotor (Beckman, Fullerton, CA, USA) before re-suspension in TNE buffer containing 1% bovine serum albumin. Virus recovery was confirmed by plaque assay on LLC-MK2 cells as described previously [25]. The cells used to propagate the viruses were also collected by scraping, pelleted by centrifugation, and stored at −80 °C before use. All work using live viruses was undertaken in a BSL2 laboratory after approval by the Institutional (Mahidol University, Bangkok, Thailand) Biosafety Committee.

2.6 2.6. cDNA Synthesis by RT-PCR

Viral RNA was extracted from the supernatant of DENV 2-infected C6/36 cells using a QIAamp Viral RNA Mini Kit (QIAGEN, Hilden, Germany) following the manufacturer’s protocol. Isolated DENV 2 RNA was used as a template for cDNA synthesis by reverse transcription. [...] [Ed.: Here it is demonstrated that a certain organic material is produced in the inoculated cells. Based on a pre-fabricated RNA extraction kit aimed at some of the same material used to inoculate the cells they removed and then amplified genetic material for a template that is documented to be associated with DENV 2, and this template is used to test against the existence of this material in the mock inoculation; however this is for RT-PCR and seperate from the testing done to elucidate the differences in lipid production between inoculated and mock controls]

[...]

2.8. One Step qRT-PCR

Viral RNA was [Ed.:attempted to be] extracted from mock or DENV 2-purified samples using a QIAamp Viral RNA Mini Kit (Qiagen, Hilden, Germany) following the manufacturer’s protocol. DENV 2 gene copy number of purified RNA samples and 10-fold serial diluted DENV 2 NS5 RNA standards was quantitated using iTaq universal SYBR Green one-step kit (Bio-Rad, Hercules, CA, USA) and a Mastercycler Realplex (Eppendorf, Hauppauge, NY, USA).[...]

3. Results

3.1. Purification of Viral Particles

We first confirmed virion purification by titering the virus in the supernatants from infected C6/36 and LLC-MK2 cells, and the corresponding purified virions. Titers of purified virions from C6/36 cells ranged from 1.45 × 109 to 1.8 × 1010 pfu/µL, while purified virions from LLC-MK2 cells ranged from 1.075 × 107 to 1.75 × 108 pfu/µL (Table S1). Although titers of supernatants used for purification were homogenous between insect and mammalian cells, purification efficiency was lower for LLC-MK2-produced virions (Table S1). We next established the DENV 2 genome copy number in the purified samples (both virion and mock) by one step qRT-PCR. None of the mock samples had any amplification product , while genome copy number in the purified virion samples ranged from 2.25 × 109 to 7.91 × 1010 for the C6/36 generated samples, and from 7.50 × 107 to 3.52 × 109 for the LLC-MK2 generated samples (Table S2). The results from the genome copy number analysis were consistent with the results observed by plaque assay. We next undertook a western blot analysis of all samples, which confirmed the presence of E protein in all virion prep samples, and no signal was seen in the mock preparations (Figure S1).

We next evaluated whether the purified samples from the mock infections and the DENV infections contained contaminating exosomes, which largely comprised lipids, through the detection of ALIX and Hsp90, which are believed to be cell type independent markers of exosomes [28]. The proteins in lysates from both C6/36 and LLC-MK2 cells were used as the positive controls for the detection of ALIX and Hsp90. Figure 1 shows the detection of ALIX in both the C6/36 and LLC-MK2 cell lysates, but not in the purified virion preparation or the mock control preparation. A marked size difference was observed in the ALIX signal between C6/36 cells and LLC-MK2 cells. According to the UniProt database [29], human ALIX is 868 amino acids long, while insect ALIX (in this case Drosophila melanogaster) is 836 amino acids long, which is consistent with the results shown. In addition, multiple bands were seen for the LLC-MK2 ALIX protein. While the identity of the multiple bands is not known, it is likely they represent yet uncharacterized isoforms. Hsp90 was only detected in the lysate of LLC-MK2 (mammalian) cells (Figure 1) possibly because the predominant stress chaperone protein of insect cells is Hsp70 [30]; however, the antibody failing to detect insect Hsp90 is also a possibility. Again, no signal was observed in the virion preparations or the mock infection preparations. Altogether, our data indicate that the preparations were highly concentrated in virions and devoid of exosomes.

The evidence produced by this study refutes your claim. As does the occurence of negative viral cultures.

Charley Horse No, it does not follow to point to mention of Oxitec as an alternate hypothesis to explain apparent vector-borne disease. Furthermore, the nature of vaxx or Sars-Cov-2 spike protein interaction with nicotinic acetylcholine receptors acting as antagonists points to long covid, widespread dysfunction, and possible increased susceptibility to diseases like Dengue, per Dwoods44 claim.

azigzagidiot · 2023-10-25T20:28:22Z

codis There are plenty of reports about proper scientific experiments that tried to prove transmissibility. Without success.

That is another astonishing claim. Do you mean to say you disagree with observations that certain human disease processes occur moreso in certain environments, seasonally, and have been observationally correlated with mosquito popuations? There are plenty of reports that point to the opposite, and animal studies in which disease processes can be triggered by the direct injection of pathogenic material.

codis · 2023-10-26T07:07:26Z

azigzagidiot As said, we had the same discussion about a year ago. I'm not going to repeat that.

Do your own research, and form your own opinion. I'm not here to convince anybody of anything.

You are solely responsible for your own life and your own decisions.

azigzagidiot · 2023-10-27T03:47:22Z

codis 'Extremely rare' case of dengue virus found in California
That's interesting.

Let's see the "virus".

Shown to you above: 1. a filterable agent; isolatable 2. experimental demonstration of growth differentiable from controls.

I see that you're in comments recently in Lescaudron's article, Compelling Evidence That SARS-CoV-2 Was Man Made . Have you read that article?

The True Nature of Viruses

Viruses are one of the oldest organisms, their presence attested to, at least, 550 MYA. They are also by far the most numerous organisms on our planet, with an estimated 10^(31) viruses in the oceans alone. That's 10 trillion more than the estimated number of stars in the Universe (10^(21)).

Viruses are also, and by far, the most diverse organisms, with an estimated 100 million different types of viruses on Earth. For comparison, there are about 5,500 known mammalian species on our planet. Out of this estimated 100 million different types of viruses, only 200 types (a mere 0.0002%) sometimes cause diseases in humans.

Despite this astounding seniority, diversity, sheer number and overall harmlessness, viruses have until recently been understood to have an exclusively pathogenic role: spreading disease, suffering and death - in part due to scientist Louis Pasteur, who fathered germ theory in the late 19th century, which limited germs (including viruses) to that role.

This misleading theory prevailed until the advent of genetic research, which today suggests that the truth about viruses might very well be almost the opposite of what Pasteur claimed:
"One of the most earth-shaking papers of this century was the publication of the human genome sequence. About half, possibly even two-thirds of the sequence are composed of more or less complete endogenous retroviruses (ERVs) and related retroelements (REs) [...]. The origin of REs is being discussed as remnants of ancient retroviral germline infections that became evolutionarily fixed in the genome.

About 450,000 human ERV (HERV) elements constitute about 8% of the human genome consisting of hallmark retroviral elements like the gag, pol, env genes and flanking long terminal repeats (LTR) that act as promoters. Howard Temin, one of the discoverers of the reverse transcriptase, in 1985 already described endogenous retrovirus-like elements, which he estimated to about 10% of the human and mouse genome sequence.

The actual number is about 45% as estimated today. In some genes such as the Protein Kinase Inhibitor B (PKIB) gene we determined about 70% retrovirus-related sequences. Is there a limit? Could it have been 100%? "

~ Moelling K, 'Viruses and Evolution - Viruses First? A Personal Perspective

Our DNA code is literally made of viral sequences. This prevalence of viral sequences in human DNA is staggering even when only known virus sequences are taken into account. This omnipresence is confirmed by the numerous copies of the same viral sequence found all over the human genome:
"[...] humans, given the vast proliferation of insertion sites involving those 30 to 50 families of viruses, and the 200 or so subgroups. If, for example, we look at just the HERV clone 4-1 variant of the HERV-E family that was studied by Sekigawa in relation to SLE, the human genome contained 85 copies of the virus at various integration sites within different chromosomes. "

~ Frank Ryan, Virolution
In addition, most viral sequences are integrated in our non-coding genes. Coding genes are like musicians who, instead of producing sound, produce proteins, which are the fundamental building-blocks of all life forms. Non-coding genes play an even more fundamental role; they are like a director controlling the musicians, modulating the expression of coding genes.

The numerous viral sequences found in our DNA are not a genetically neutral archaism; it is now proven that endogenous viruses have beneficial effects on the host:
"In 1996, Roy J Britten, of the California Institute of Technology, was able to list ten examples in which endogenous retroviral sequences helped regulate the expression of a useful gene. Seven of the ten examples were human."

~ Frank Ryan, Virolution
About the term "endogenous" used above: our ancestors were exposed to a new virus (exogenous = transmissible virus) and integrated the code of this virus into their very own DNA (endogenous = hereditary virus). In fact, not only do endogenous viruses have beneficial effects as shown by the quote above, but it seems that their presence is even necessary for life forms to exist:
"[...] when Corrado Spadafora, the Italian researcher who has produced such pioneering work in cancer research, applied an anti-reverse transcriptase drug in this very early stage of embryogenesis in the mouse, all development ceased at the four-cell stage. It would appear that endogenous retroviruses are playing a very profound, if completely unknown, role at this early stage in mammalian embryogenesis. "

~ Frank Ryan, Virolution
The role of viruses is so prominent in human DNA that some researchers are asking: "Are viruses our oldest ancestors?"

To use an analogy, viruses infusing new information into our genetic code is akin to a software update. From this perspective, diseases caused by exogenous viruses are the physical manifestation of the carrier's struggles to adapt to this "update" [?!?]. In rare cases death ensues - the computer is too old, is not ready for the change, or is unable to absorb the update. But as the Chinese saying goes, "a falling tree makes more noise than a growing forest." In most cases, the update is successful and totally asymptomatic :
"We explored non-human sequence data from whole-genome sequencing of blood from 8,240 individuals, none of whom were ascertained for any infectious disease. [...] we mapped sequences to 94 different viruses, including sequences from 19 human DNA viruses, proviruses and RNA viruses (herpesviruses, anelloviruses, papillomaviruses, three polyomaviruses, adenovirus, HIV, HTLV, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, parvovirus B19, and influenza virus) in 42% of the study participants. "
Usually, the exovirus is deactivated and integrated in our DNA painlessly; it has become an endogenous virus. The new viral information is stored in our 'hard drive' (our genome). This new information - sequences of endogenous virus integrated in our DNA - provides us with augmented complexity and functionality.

The above shows the prevalence of viruses in our genetic code and the vital role they play. This perspective provides a different spin to the on-going debate about whether viruses are life forms or not. Actually, viruses seem more fundamental than even life itself; they are the information carriers (genetic codes) from which biological life stems. Viruses are more than life: they are the very source of life; they are the informational precursors, the initiators of life forms.

That's interesting? Do you see it yet? This no-virus business is serving to obfuscate the criminality of those who developed this thing. If you don't think this science has effective procedures in operation you're mistaken.

codis [...]A proper control experiment easily disproves this theory. Like, repeat the same so-called "isolation" process, but without adding any "virus infected" material. If the end result is identical, this proves the objects in question are an artifact of the process, NOT the alleged virus.[...]

I'll ask again, given that I've demolished your above claim with my second above cited study, do you have any evidence to marshall in support of your claims?

JohnDukes · 2023-10-24T15:03:00Z

I wonder if it’s from Oxitec.

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Dwoods44 · 2023-10-27T16:20:43Z

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