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They seemed to have recently invaded SOTT from the flat earth region of Antarctica, which is the end of the earth.
No wonder i feel like i can almost reach out, and touch them!
...I find it suspicious that SOTT is being bombarded by flat earthers all of a sudden. Now there's a conspiracy. Is it because SOTT leads the pack in alternative news, so shills are sent to spew flat earth disinfo in the comment sections to try and dissuade new readers from enlightening themselves before the midterms?
The fact that you can pour a glass of beer out on the ground in salute to your dead FE homeys should tell you everything you need to know about how the "curved water" stays put, instead of flying out to space. If i were a cult leader, you would be just the personality to follow me to the ends of the earth?
Does it ever rain where you live? If so, notice how the rain drops seem to fall towards the ground, and form little streams in a downword fashion, that turn into larger streams which in turn find rivers which head to the oceans of "curved" water? I hearby invite you on a sea cruise, but don't get too drunk as we travel, because I want you to notice that we keep sailing around that "curved" water til we hit land, then we're off on a land expedition! By motor bike, if you like, (or we can just hop a plane to expedite our time together) and eventually we will arrive at another ocean of curved water which we will probably forego the sea cruise, and opt for further air travel, by then, you will have gotten accustomed to it, actually prefer the speedy convenience, and i will let you have my window seat so you can observe the curving horizon as we proceed right back to the same spot(from the opposite direction) where we began our glorious trip around the world!
BTW... I never watched the results of that FE guy that built a rocket to blast into the upper atmosphere to prove whether or not the earth was flat. Did he ever get off the ground? Do you own a tv? If not, nevermind. But i will say if you will just book a window seat on a flight to the next city over, shouldn't cost more than $200. usd, if you book online, you can do your own experiment, and observe if the horizon curves out your window. Let us know how it works out, and good luck!
HAHAHA!
...Now do us all a favor, and back up your FE claims with at least some kind of evidence, because frankly my dear Watson, we simply cannot take your word for it! You could be an escaped raving lunatic using the library pc around the corner from the mission, for all we know!
The radius of Earth is 6,371 KM
The cruising height of a 747 is 12 KM ... you would be flying at 6,383 KM from the center of the Earth
So you are effectively saying that if you view a sphere from 0.2% above the surface of the sphere, you can see the curvature of the sphere and know its total size
Maybe buy yourself a big ball - 1.2M diameter (use a space hopper is you want) .. now get a mini camera and get it to hover 1MM above the surface ... have a look what the camera can see
There are also questions how you deal with velocity vectors, sheer forces etc. when flying over a globe
Landing is tricky - particularly on a N-S run way on a globe spinning E/W or W/E
Travelling over the poles would be a nightmare
I would assume, generally, that larger planets have higher gravity than smaller planets
The smaller planet would have lower gravity but a tighter curve
A larger planet would have higher gravity but less of a curve
One can only assume that Earth has a specific curve / gravity ratio that allows planes to fly - any other planet and they would be nose diving into the ground or heading off to outer space
"So you are effectively saying that if you view a sphere from 0.2% above the surface of the sphere, you can see the curvature of the sphere and know its total size"
...I didn't say anything about knowing the total size of the earth(sphere) by observing from a commercial jet window seat. I said you can detect a curve in the horizon. If the planet was flat as you numskulls profess, there would be no curve of horizon.
[Link]
"You should be able to detect it from an aeroplane at a cruising height of around 10,600 metres (35,000 feet), but you need a fairly wide field of view (ie 60 degrees) and a virtually cloud-free horizon."
...I detected a slight curve flying over the Pacific from the mainland to Hawaii. I know what i saw.
Well, too bad they grounded Concords.
Cruising at 60,000, here is a pic that definitely shows a curve.
[Link]
Not rocket science hahaha
Maybe you could explain what is theoretical and, moreover, UNPROVEN about it?
Cause they're just not true!
... i love the sparkling star nations
Are ya on a mission to convince us we live on a flat disk of buoyant pancake batter?
...Is it Mrs. Butterworth's?
Either the Earth is totally flat, with edges that we can fall off, or there really is a 100% bog-standard Tesla floating in space, totally unaffected by solar rays or the vacuum .. and bouncing hoppers
Hopefully some of you are sensible enough not to believe everything is so black or white
As much as anything it is questioning the scale-able heliocentric model - It is no doubt a great model, with formulas and constants developed over 500 years .. but that doesn't mean it is real
The thing is, there are good indicators to question the alleged curvature and good reason to question NASA - This does not imply anything, it does not require an alternative model
Here's a flatness tease - Päijänne Water Tunnel - [Link] / [Link] I would suggest this site - [Link] - as a good calculator - the "bulge" for 120KM is 280 Metres
i.e. If you dug a straight tunnel from A to B, over 120KM, at 30M depth for the start and end points, the centre would be 310M below ground
If you want to go big, try the Nord Stream pipeline - all 1,222KM of it - [Link]
The "bulge" is 30KM - [Link]
The pipeline is made up of about 100,000 pipes, each about 12M long - they do not build any curve into the pipes
(30KM / 100,000 = 30cm / pipe)
There were environmental concerns re Nord Stream
e.g. "the pipeline work rips a canal in the seabed which will demand leveling the sand that lies along the way"
So did the have to deal with Earth curvature for this 1222 KM pipeline?
The steel pipe are concrete coated and end up weighing 30 tonnes each, 30 think walls, 1.4M diameter ... not particularly flexible
30KM of bulge is over 3 times the height of Everest (8,848M)
How do you lay a pipe under a 30KM bulge and not know about it?
"And again, when faced with a straight up question that requires a straight up answer, Truman just ignores it."
...Or he pawns the question off on someone else...
StarDam challenges him to answer a question about gravity, and he pretends he is in agreement, and leaves the question for you to answer...because he doesn't have an answer for StarDam?
Yeah, that's what I'm waiting for!
For thousands of years, humans have observed that all ships sailing over horizon always disappear bottom first.
You link is to a dymaxion map - [Link] - I don't think it prove or disproves anything
To be honest, I'm pulling this info off of "how to debunk a flat earther" websites.
If you are lucky you might even get the full Mount Erebus bonus - [Link]
At least HashAttack2 patiently makes his case, you just spout off a few adjectives, and off you go! You yearn to be a HashAttack2, but alas... it's not in the cards.
By all accounts it would be extremely difficult for any normal person to be allowed to step foot on Antarctica
You are probably not even allowed to smoke on deck of ship below 60 degrees south!
They want to keep it pristine (devoid of prole scum) but a lot of servicemen who were based there have died off or are suffering from serious cancers due to leaky nuclear reactors that they have there
There is stuff they are definitely keeping secret from us ... who knows how far that goes
Dont know what you all are talking about but i m reading and learning... i think
If Earth is flat, how can billions of people see two different sets of constellations rotating in opposite directions, around two opposite poles? How can people in the southern hemisphere essentially stand in a circle with their backs to each other, and all be facing the same southern constellation?
Have you checked out all the movement and speeds involved in the heliocentric model ... makes you wonder how that pole star never moves
According to flat Earth consensus, the Moon circles 3,000 miles above a flat Earth. In which case we would have to see every side of the Moon each day, and the phases would cycle every 24 hours.
I don't think my house is a globe
I don't have proven reason why there can be dark and light areas on the Earth at the same time - it just means one part is lit and another is not
Whilst a spherical model could demonstrate the same behaviour, it does not prove that the behaviour is down to a sphere
If the surface of the Earth (the part we experience) is flat then it cannot be a sphere
"Daddy, can we go on Holliday? "Sure kids, we'll go rock climbing cause gravity doesn't exist because it's an unproven theory!" "And take those Apollo moon landing posters off your wall,you rebellious little prick!" "I don't care what your looney teachers are tellin ya!" "If you and your play group do your own work instead of running for the ‘teacher’ or copying someone else’s work!" " "Don't make me send you to the edge!"
Then later that night... "Oh honey! I'm reaching the edge! I'm reaching the edge!"
"Awww! I was almost there!" "You, and that curved water!"
Not Gravity is "only a theory", but the theory of it's causation. And yes, the current theory has holes. Just like the theory of a photon as massless particle at light speed has holes. And creates wonderful theoretical singularities like black holes and big bangs, that serve quite well as funding justification ...
That doesn't mean gravity is an universal law which can be used to dismiss all problems
The reason why the theory still lives on is because the scientists continually make up new "things" to justify their equations - dark matter, dark energy etc. The also updated the definition to relate to Einstein's theory
Now they have both their flaky fantasy "things" and the Electric Universe theory to challenge the validity of the theory of gravity
They have used the Royal Society's Gravity, together the the masons big G (666) to determine the size, weight and distances of everything in the universe ... it's presumption of the highest order ... and its all scale-able to any size you want
LOL, Your main talking point is everyone else's intellect, or lack thereof. Yet you sidestep any questions, like from StarDam, or Rinsewind. I think it best you allow HashAttack2 to be the frontman for FE, and you do some custodial duties for your movement, like fold "end earth, or bust" decal uniforms, or prepare hearty "zero gravity meals"... because I'm just not seeing it, you in a people position, apart from ranting on some corner with a sign.
Tell your wife i said Hi, and that she shouldn't let you force-feed your beliefs into her daily function, and that there is life beyond flat earth ramblings from an obsessive compulsive control-freak.
im deducing that assumption from the fact that you seek to dominate, and control every space article...at least according to Rinsewind.
If there are no satellites, why do we point our satellite dishes to the sky?
How are we able to look for satellite trajectories online and then see them moving across the sky exactly as predicted?
Why does the angle of polaris correspond directly to the latitude of the observer, in other words, why is its angle in the sky the same as the latitude of the observer?
Why can't Aussies see polaris or Americans the southern cross?
How does night and day work?
How do seasons work?
What are the stars and why do planets appear differently?
Why are the Moon, Sun, and all the other planets round?
I can go on for days with this. Answer at least 3.
Here's a good one!
Personal locator beacons:
Available in the U.S. since 2003, these satellite-based handheld devices provide a powerful safety net for wilderness travelers. They work directly off of satellites, in places where cell towers are not providing a signal.
That's why i had an awesome time trolling him! He's a beaut...and he has All the answers.(he just jealously guards them)
Very good question #1!
I wish i would have thought of that!
In fact, remember back when Direct tv first came out? Mid 90's, i bought from K-mart a do-it-yourself Direct TV dish, and receiver kit. If anyone reading this has set up one, you have to anchor the dish on your house, have someone stand by the receiver at the tv, while you point the dish up in the southern sky, and the reciever will sound off with a high pitch sound the closer you get to being aimed directly at the satellite, and the pitch will be at its highest when you are at 100% signal. We used cordless phones to communicate, as i turned the dish. I feel this Trumanshow character is either deranged, or simply trolling with info he knows full well doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Good luck.
"I would scratch my balls the whole day and the f*cking robots would do all the work."
... They're working on that. It's trickle down economics. The elites will get robots to scratch them in intimate places, then they will be repackaged, and sold to us as new, in box. (may contain traces of nuts)
And it makes me angry (well, mostly cynical) that we do not.