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Unhinged madman Avigdor Lieberman: Next war with Israel will have "very heavy prices"

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Tue, 03 Oct 2017 21:22 UTC

Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman

Israel's war minister Avigdor Lieberman warned on Monday that the next war is likely to feature attacks on population centers and civilians, according to Haaretz daily.

Avigdor Lieberman, who took part on Monday evening in a ceremony in which certificates of honor were awarded to 31 Israeli officers and soldiers from various units in the army, said: "The next confrontation, if it breaks out, will take on a completely different character, when our enemies will try to strike first at population centers and civilian infrastructure. So we will not have the luxury to wage a long war."

Comment: What this actually reveals: Lieberman and his fellow psychiatric ward inmates plan to strike population centers and civilian infrastructure - as Israel always does. This statement is just a preemptive justification.

"We live in a new reality of a new Middle East, which is much worse than the old Middle East. And in this terrible new reality, we have yet to face difficult tests," he added.

"Any confrontation will have to be conducted from the very first moment in the highest profile, using all the army's strengths," Lieberman continued. "If there is a crossing of red lines, the other side must know in advance that it is going to pay very heavy prices."

Comment: Typical Israeli red line: responding, in any way, shape or form, to an Israeli attack.

"The sovereign, too, regardless of whether he controls his territory or not - as soon as a hostile action takes place, the sovereign will also bear all the responsibility," the war minister further threatened.

Comment: This isn't just Lieberman warning aggressors that they will be held responsible. It is telling them that they will be held responsible, regardless of whether or not they actually are. That's Israeli justice.

The international community has ceaselessly sounded alarm bells over the Israeli aggressions on civilian homes, infrastructure, and unarmed communities across the occupied Palestinian territories and the blockaded Gaza Strip, in aggressions deemed by the international law as crimes against humanity.

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Ned Ludd · 2017-10-04T23:11:16Z

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Kentus · 2017-10-04T23:24:45Z

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Illusionoffreedom · 2017-10-04T23:18:38Z

Herrrrr Liebermannnnnnn!!!!

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baron · 2017-10-04T23:36:29Z

Illusionoffreedom With this kind of leadership you have to wonder about inbreeding.

Ruth · 2017-10-05T01:00:51Z

You know this 'wing nut' will probably be then next Prime Minister, right? Their rhetoric is already established, It's war.

Brewer · 2017-10-05T03:26:18Z

There will be War.

A religious ideology that sanctions the killing of, not just opponents, but any or all non-members of its lunatic cult on the grounds that they might pose a threat will always be at War. Add the fact that this particular cult takes theft as a fundamental, exclusive right and there will be perpetual War until either the cult is quashed or all non-members are killed or enslaved.

I have sometimes cited the ravings of such as Ovadia Yosef as examples of overblown murderous rhetoric but had never considered taking them seriously until viewing this lecture by HaRav David Bar-Hayim.

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In beautifully modulated cadence he lays it all out referencing scripture to back the thesis that all non-Jews are to be treated as snakes - killed because they might be venomous. He then teaches us that the sages ruled that theft of non-Jewish property (by a Jew) need not be restored to its owner because a Jew will use his ill-gotten gains for the benefit of humanity ("humanity" means the tribe of course).

Might be some surprises.

The game has changed considerably. In 1967, when Israel made its surprise attack, Egypt's main forces were bogged down in Yemen and Israel popped its air force before the off. In '73, only the largest airlift in History saved Israel.

Times change, tactics and armaments change. Israel doesn't like casualties, has always depended on heavy armour and air strikes. Hezbollah countered the former in 2006 and is now better equipped to deal with the latter plus it now has longer range missiles - can probably reach Tel Aviv - I don't have much confidence in "Iron Dome".

As the map changes, the nuclear option becomes less viable. At present there are numerous, de-centralised battle-hardened groups close to Israel's borders. If Jordan falls into line, Israel is virtually surrounded. It could possibly prevail in the short term using nukes but they will not help on the ensuing battlefield and with the inevitable backlash in World opinion. Furthermore, should Israel nuke Tehran, Beirut, or Damascus, consider what the response might be from Pakistan, Russia and the entire Muslim World. It is well-named "The Samson Option". The U.S. public will balk at Armageddon - not sure about the unpredictable administration.

jordifs · 2017-10-05T19:38:04Z

Brewer Thanks for your very interesting comments. Need to consider their influence in allied affairs. The country is already working (bombing) Syria. Also preparing for a military confrontation against Hamas in Lebanon (I recently read). Also warning they will not allow, at any cost, the buildup of a permanent military base in Syria owned by Iran. Which has been already announced. I believe a nuclear option cannot be discarded. As you point out one major counter to this hard line measure is allies will react badly. Except if they are distracted and very busy with other conflicts. So much they will not care or dare to interfere in the middle-east. I recently speculated how the next great military conflict will proceed. What might happen if that war is combined with multiple disasters occurring at the same time: Disaster 1).- A false flag operation in North Korea that leads to a preemptive attack by the US. So the war with China starts. As it claims will protect that country. If falsely attacked. So the US will be busy there. Disaster 2).- An economic crash sending US and EU countries into bankruptcy. Which means total domestic chaos. I've seen hints to that. I read about one US government officer told once they are preparing to “kill the dollar”. So there is a plan. I even saw for years the US army preparing for urban warfare and techniques to control mass unrest. Some hints also detected within Europe. When the army, not the police, builds huge stocks in material to control mass unrest. Even emergency procedures being prepared in order for the army to assist domestic police force. If anyone need clues. Look the current trending topic for dropping the petrodollar scheme and buy as much as gold possible. A change supported by: Russia, China, Venezuela, Iran, Turkey. Even the historic ally Saudi Arabia is buying russian made air defense systems (S-400). ¿Looking to protect themselves against NATO? All suggests the dollar value will no longer be supported by international oil trade. Other currencies will be used. For more clues see also TheCorbettReport which was recently in a conference with the speech: “Echoes of WW1” (link). Analyzes events related to World War 1. Compares to what happens today. Seems to find valid hints for the next Great War (WW3). If he is right, the breaking point is very close. Disaster 3).- Western governments reacting with banks to lock and freeze all customer assets. Citizens will get angry. At some point the decision will be taken to bail-in the banks. Which means to restore economic balance sheets using the money of their customers. If a bank customers assets are not enough, some banks will disappear. Already hinted by the IMF, to drop some bad banks. The Bank for International Settlements already placed the rules for this strategy a few years back. Which means stealing customers money, with the promise that the money will be returned in the future. Disaster 4).- With the previous crash all subsidies and wealthfare can be wiped out in a single weekend. Imagine poor people and migrants in Europe without any support to find food. Disaster 5).- Illegal migrant organized crime on the rise. Combined with sleeper cells, rebelling widespread in the heart of Europe, to fight the infidels. Disaster 6).- A false flag operation attacking a nuclear reactor in Europe. If radioactivity is leaked. Widespread chaos could be massive. Leading to concentration camps to fill them with illegal migrants, Muslims, criminals with minor offenses. All to restore law and order.

I wonder about this total chaotic environment in the US and Europe. They will not have time to care about what happens in the middle-east or China. I'll bet they will not be in a position to threaten whatever plans are in place for middle-east. Which means Israel will be able to drop the gloves and pursue any hard measure without constraints. See here the war against the islamic world will also be fought in Europe and the US. So to show allies they are just fighting the same enemy. For me the only mystery is how Russia and India will play in this mess. Remember this is just a crazy conspiracy theory.

Brewer · 2017-10-05T22:32:08Z

jordifs Israel-watchers have a difficult task. One never knows exactly what the end-game is.

It appears as though the Oded Yinon strategy finally fell at the Syria hurdle but did it really? Israel is now openly pushing for a Kurdish State - something it has been covertly supporting/inciting for decades (ethnically pure States R us). Anything to disrupt Arab unity I guess but a poor consolation prize for so much effort. That effort seems to be concentrated on getting the U.S. to de-fang Iran at present. I feel certain that Iran has contingency plans for that eventuality and even some supporters in the U.S. administration (McMaster for example).

My current thinking is that strategists are in some turmoil at present, blowing smoke in all directions like the North Korea sideshow.

Iraq is now more in Iran's camp and Syria didn't fall. Israel must now consider battlefield and domestic casualties if it starts another push against Hezbollah which is now a more potent force than in 2006 when they showed the IDF how lightly-armed ground troops can defeat armour. Plus they are now better equipped, trained, experienced and up close.

Despite its reputation, the IDF is weak in morale and experience - risk averse. I linked to the lecture by David Bar-Hayim (David Mandel - why always a change of name??) because it gives a clear rationale for what the IDF does best - overwhelming force against civilian militia. They won't have that option with Hezbollah, the SAA and Revolutionary Guards. Armies that fight yesterday's wars generally lose.

Sometimes I wonder if the chess-master Putin has decided to make taming Israel his legacy? He has his pieces in place.

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