NewsReal: Hawaii Wildfire Tragedy: Man-Made or Natural Disaster?

katesisco.

And this done to the last remaining outpost of the native Hawaiian population, and of course the least developed island.

case enough to call it an act of state terrorism ?

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parzival From what I hear from people on the ground that lots of food, clothing, bedding etc. that the government will not let people help giving the supplies that were donated to the victims. So the supplys just sits and is guarded so no one can have it . Only stuff from FEMA will be available food, water. But they must register or they won't get anything. I'll bet people will start vanishing from the FEMA camps and never be heard from again just like in CA that some people were able to get the word out when FEMA guards diapered there spouses both men and women. The Red Cross is the same as FEMA taking donations but none go to the victims.The local communist government won't let the people help others they don't them to see whats really going to happen to the victims.

parzival Interesting that she mentions the Paradise, CA fire...my mind went there when I saw the pictures of incinerated buildings with untouched trees next to them...in this fire I even saw a boat on the water that had caught fire. Not sure if I buy into the whole DEW theory, if only because it is sad, depressing and scary to contemplate there are people who would wreak this kind of death and destruction simply to put up some new real estate....screw it...lets just blame Trump....

Bezel Bub No need to contemplate if there are such people. There always have been and always will be. They not only "would wreak", they enjoy it. Any look at history, including history being made now, shows such people are most likely to be in charge, which makes it far worse. Not clearly seeing them for what they are empowers them. It may be depressing and scary, that's not relevant to truth. Not that I think it was likely DEW.

Steelj I cant disagree with any of what you say. I see them pretty clearly but I choose not to make them a part of my reality. Its all just one big clown show and I'm not buying tickets to see it.

Bezel Bub Check this out...before the Maui fire [Link]

Bezel Bub Some of us can't help but look. Your way is probably better.

Steelj Its a survival mechanism..beats turning into the guy who ends up on a high tower in a clown suit with ordnance...then they win...

twiceyes I watched a video from one guy that was lucky to get it out, he was saying that the Dews were melting down the cell towers so people could not up load videos of the Dews scorching the homes and vehicles, people burning up in the cars and in the streets being vaporized not just a100 or so but 1000s of bodies. Thats why they won't let anyone in the area to help just the governments people. What was shown on MSM was a few burning buildings in a loop but would not show the peoples videos that were in the middle of it all, they didn't want anyone to see the truth. There are truth videos on the internet and they are trying to censor them too saying they don't comply with their standards. Bitchute, Rumble, Gab and others like that have videos just put it in the search.

griever This was a planed event to turn the island into a futuristic smart city smart homes etc. This is away to steal the land, and the insurance won't pay for the burning down of the homes because they were out of compliance thats what they say. The islands government is fully complacent with getting rid of the indigenes people off the land to further their agenda. The DEWs used was the same in the Paradise Valley CA they burned down the same way. 1000s of people died not just a few 100ed many were vaporized from the microwave Dews burned from the inside out into dust just like the homes. If people can't see what's going on nothing will ever convince them of the truth. It's not just a fire it's what's behind the fire and the agenda.

Patrick2017 You are correct. [Link]
Their technology appears quite advanced: [Link]
Directed Energy Weapons Used On Chile: [Link]

griever Good pod cast on # 1 He was spot on told it like it is with no bullshit.

Dutch has his eye on the earth from the sky # 2 he also had some on the California Dews where you could see the laser coming down to set the fires.

Dew laser # 3 Thats the best video of a laser direct hit that I have seen to date. Thats what people need to see to prove that they exist. Even the ones Dutch shows, One can search for planes that have lasers on DEWs mounted on them I have seen pictures. Thanks for the links I hope more people here will go to your links too.

Patrick2017 Thank you for taking the time to investigate them. I know three links is a lot to ask. Much obliged, sir

parzival 12' min. video dissecting an interesting interaction an investigative reporter, Nick Sorton, had with a stalker during a livestream for Steve Bannon's war room. Sorton was on Maui about 45 minutes from Lahaina minding his business, dong the live-stream in his hotel's parking lot. The author of the Odysee video is analyzing a certain social phenomenon with his work, and though this stalker was written off as a "deranged leftist", I think the video author would be more likely to ascribe his activities to one of the cube agencies-- blue cube, black cube --which perform privatized intelligence agency functions and are running illegal schemes alongside federal agencies empowering them and foreign interests.

[Link] High-Strangeness in Investigative Journalism -- Lookoutfa Charlie on Odysee

parzival I know you're right, and I haven't even watched the videos.

azigzagidiot Thanks for the link... I've tuned into Lookoutfa Charlie in the past. He gives pretty good critiques of videos on line, usually to the enth degree. Here's a video series I'll share with you Cult of the Medics - Chapter 1 of 8 [Link]

parzival Good video have watched her channel for years, she is spot on.

Brigette Link # 11 didn't manifest... Try again? Thank you!

parzival [Link]

Brigette You must be: [Link]

Winternights3 As for motive.

I found this interesting article from Zerohedge

[Link] Woke Hawaiian Official Stalled Release Of 'Revered Water' Until It Was Too Late To Save Maui

From the article:

With wildfires ripping across West Maui on Aug. 8, a state water official delayed the release of water that landowners requested to help protect their property from damage and stop the spread. The water standoff played out over much of the day and the water didn’t come until too late. The dispute involved the Department of Land and Natural Resources’ water resource management division and West Maui Land Co., which manages agricultural and residential subdivisions in West Maui.

How much damage could have been prevented with the extra water is not yet known. However, the question of "Why?" needs to be addressed in the wake of one of the worst natural disasters in Hawaii's history. Though bureaucratic red tape might be the most obvious suggestion, a recent interview with M. Kaleo Manual offers some interesting and disturbing insight. Manuel waxes philosophical on "water equity" ("equity" being a pervasive woke buzzword) and an ancient "reverence" of water as god-like. He uses these beliefs to support his rationale for keeping tight controls over Hawaiian water supplies; not as a resource to be used, but as a holistic privilege offered by the government.

[Link] A twitter post where he explains his rationale for the decision he made.

Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy summed up the disgusting farce in a tweet:

There’s a dark but hard TRUTH to the Maui catastrophe that has led to over 110 tragic deaths. As wildfires raged, desperate residents petitioned state officials to send more water for firefighting & to help protect their properties from fire. That request went unanswered for hours, withholding critical aid to islanders.

Now we’re learning that the official who delayed the approval is an Obama Foundation "Asia Pacific Leader" & a climate activist who believes water should be “revered” first and foremost. The DEI agenda is literally costing people their lives. Hawaii’s Democrat governor, Josh Green, says there are people “fighting against the release of water to fight fires” & that it needs to be explored further. The No. 1 responsibility of government is to protect its citizens. The victims and their families deserve the TRUTH.

Joan Yup, it stinks, stinks to high heaven.

I get the feeling that THEY? Need this Island by hook or by crook, attempts to rid the island of its inhabitants failed, so some crook burnt it to the ground.

Why THEIR interest I'm unsure of, no doubt future developments will start to shed light on the matter.

Joan

desperate residents petitioned state officials to send more water for firefighting & to help protect their properties from fire. That request went unanswered for hours, withholding critical aid to islanders.

*Whew* good thing that only lasted a few hours, right?

Joan The truth is:

In 2022, two Maui senators, Gil Keith-Agaran and Lynne DeCoite, introduced a measure to push DLNR to allow fresh water to be used to fight fires and pointed to West Maui as being particularly vulnerable. The bill noted that “in 2019, West Maui suffered from an active fire season in which wildfires scorched twenty-five thousand acres of land.” It would have required DLNR to “cooperate with the counties and reservoir owners to develop protocols and agreements for the use of reservoir waters for fire safety purposes.” Specifically, the measure said, “The protocols and agreements shall address the emergency use of reservoir waters for prevention, control, and extinguishment of fires while taking into account the various competing uses of reservoir waters.” The bill died without a hearing.

Brigette It is widely believed the church was protected by a giant sycamore tree that was planted in St. Paul’s graveyard.

Shangri When you have eyes to see and ears to hear even in this construct world there are believers who know. There is know value trying to wake people up to see the truth they will defend their ignorance to the end. Thanks for the link.

Patrick2017 Thanks, and sorry, ....reply is below.

Shangri My reply to you (Knowing.) I liked the video and it was spot on what was been said as I was referring my comment to the video, because most people do not believe we are living in a construct like the move West World and series all those I have not watched the series after the original move but as you know they put stuff out there into the future of what's going to come to fruition. The Controllers.

We live in a terrarium with the firmament above and below, self contained if you will. It is a flat plane not a ball and the proof is there but very few eyes to see and ears to hear the truth and the bigger picture of who we are spiritual. The flat earth [Link]

There was no need to apologize it was my bad not yours as I should have explained my thoughts more clearly. I did read your post below and I agree with you the programing is strong and relentless I guess I was just to hard headed to believe the bull shit and I'm 71.

PedroCarpintero .

I don't think we'll ever find the answers here online, but only deep inside... and maybe that is the best place for the answers to remain.

agree, there's no one fits all skeleton key, though plenty that'll fill the space, can be no turning them, because it a self - created lock, we forge our own entry.

Twisted It's all coming out of the woodwork.

Twisted - I've read speculation that the event was all "staged" but I have a hard time believing that in a way....maybe I need to read what the author was speculating on more closely, but said author discounted the likelihood of any sort of "DEW" aspect to the event, but I have a hard time believing the actual harm caused could be "faked". Truly, there were causalities and there must be folks who lived there and survived, so if the whole thing was "theatre" it seems as if that would be most easy to disprove from the perspective of the specific individuals that have been displaced.

I think it was some sort of "DEW" and apparently there is a "facility" nearby that may have facilitated certain aspects of this odd fire that seemed to leave some trees untouched while nearby metal melted??????

Here is a little saying I'm fond of:

oh, what a tragic travesty this is becoming.....will dukie ever learn? I reckon yes, but it remains to be seen if it will be "healthy learning" or learning the hard way; and, as each day goes by with continued insistence by the few without consideration for remedy, the hard way of learning increases in probability. This seems so evident to me - do you agree?

BK

Buffalo_Ken how to hypnotize a chicken with one line [Link] Don't erase the line!

Buffalo_Ken Fire fire everywhere right now out here. See vids posted of guys on the run purportedly fire bugs. Reminds me of 'The Stand' by Stephen King. News @ 11...

parzival The Oregon Rd fire in Eastern Wa is over 10, 000 acres.

I'm alright and home is safe..

Fires 🔥 are pretty normal here, and in Canada above this time of year. Canada deals with this all the time and without a lot of help.

Because people know that Inslee (governor) is corrupt, there was a lot of grumbling that State trucks were not helping, just local. Rumors run rampant when people are frightened, though I put maximum stock in shows analysis.

And of course psychos don't let an opportunity go to waste as perhaps,

I'm speculating regardingthis fire in Wa, ( I

suspect arson primary inMaui) arsonists set secondary fires reducing firefighting resources.

Somehow a fire started in someone's backyard acreage juck pile and an acetylene tank exploded hitting a house I was helping homeowners evacuate.

The Churches are open 24/7 with meals for those who lost homes, mostly from donations and there are live stock trailers rounding up loose animals.

People really come together.

It's very moving.

Nathan Carney Thank you for sharing your experiences... It is deeply moving when community comes together to assist those traumatized by disaster. In Spokane, quite a few people were burned out of house & home. The VA & employees there stepped up and saw to it that people had temporary shelter and food to fill empty, hungry stomachs...

parzival The biggest scars are not on the landscape but with trauma.

They are making it difficult for homeowners to remove fire damage.

Over 300 lost home in Spokane/Medical lake area and 120 north in Oregon Rd. Fire.

The best solution is to dig a big hole on property and bury the waste. Terrible that that has to be the solution.

Sometimes I focus too much on materialistic help, which is natural at times, and not enough on soul help.

Having been traumatized in life myself it's not always easy to integrate and face childish parts of myself. It's also so important to being a man, and not rejecting the father who is really myself bonded at an early age.

During the emergency I was helping out, but also focused on being a loving, calming presence to those around me.

Because that's where the real value is.

Dwoods44 D44, come on now, so the parties over and said lasers are where and doing what? Charging up.

Fires are being deliberately started, combustion, remember the triangle, heat, fuel and oxygen, NOT lasers.

Winternights3 "Fires are being deliberately started"

sure are, whether by climate idealists, gov agent provocateur's or DEWs, either way, intentional.

As to the colour Blue being unaffected.. a bunch of blue, presumably cotton, pool umbrellas being untouched in the midst's of carnage.. a blue car being somewhat untouched, in the midst's of carnage... we've seen this before where fire devastates a home but the tree in the yard unscathed!

KISS.. keep it simple and stupid

Winternights3 and goneexploring: right on

gonexploring Did anyone notice that the FEMA workers and others were wearing hard hats that were blue and blue t shirts. The dews wouldn't vaporize people wearing them.

Patrick2017

there is a video circulating showing 4 different coloured cloths, blue, yellow, green and red (if i remember rightly)

A laser is aimed at the material and burns all... except the blue!

Dwoods44 - here is another bit of info on this travesty. This event is another in a long list, but this time I believe they may have triggered a core resistance that they will later realize was a big mistake...and the beginning of their rapid downfall in earnest.

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Was weaponized GIS used in Lahaina?

Click-and-destroy program for "sustainable redevelopment"

SASHA LATYPOVA

AUG 28, 2023

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Buffalo_Ken ThanksBK. Latypova is exceptional. She has a substack called Due Diligence and Art. This research she has done outside of her area of expertise is excellent and is something we should all learn to do..

gonexploring Your first and last name I suspect. Simple Stupid.

Mcsnack you sure you're in your 40s and not 4?

gonexploring You sure you are a person and not a monkey they taught to type propaganda?

Mcsnack [Link] [Link]

gonexploring [Link]

Mcsnack :lol: a pinch of salt with your handlers website

gonexploring Just an experiment to see how long they will track someone. And a few other things.

Mcsnack I'll wait with great enthusiasm for the 'knock on the door'!

gonexploring They don't knock. They come at you like the Kurds. [Link]

Mcsnack personal experience.. giver or taker?

gonexploring where do you think mcsnackS went?

azigzagidiot kurding some old ladies door!

azigzagidiot You’re absolutely adorable they way you try to say intelligent things.

gonexploring If only closed minds came with closed mouths.

Mcsnack my world and its comment sections would be a wonderful place.

Mcsnacks Just an experiment to see how long they will track someone. And a few other things.

Mcsnacks They don't knock. They come at you like the Kurds.

...Terrorist.

azigzagidiot I guess I am kinda like a revolutionary. Standing up against government tyranny. An anarchist. Freedom Fighter.

Nice.

gonexploring Thank you! I appreciate it.

Mcsnacks You're a modern goofball operator performing for us like a caricature of a characteropath let to spool out half-brained yarn.

Like threatening to SWAT someone then trying to turn that into narcissistic supply.

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In June 2023, NICE was recognized by Frost & Sullivan with its 2023 Best Practices Company of the Year Award for Conversational AI. [19] During the same month, NICE presented a range of new AI solutions at its annual Interactions event. Barak Eilam stated in a speech to the attendees of Interactions 2023 that customer service was in the infancy of an AI revolution, calling it a "new technology wave unlike any we've seen before." [20

Nice Systems sells its Cyber and Intelligence division

Business to be merged into Elbit systems' subsidiary CYBERBIT

May 26, 2015

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The company also focuses on the upgrading of existing military platforms, developing new technologies for defense, homeland security and commercial aviation applications and providing a range of support services, including training and simulation systems. In 2016, Elbit Systems had approximately 13,895 employees, the majority of whom are engaged in engineering, mechanics, research and development, and other computing and technical areas.

Elbit is the largest Israeli military defense contractor, reporting $2.28 billion in revenue in 2017.

Dwoods44 Here is an SGT report with a investigator who researched the California fires. [Link]

Dwoods44 Deborah Tavares site is stopthecrime.net. Again she has been an investigative analyst for many years. She gives first hand account of the Tubb fires in Sonoma 2017.

Dwoods44 Deborah Tavares recommends seeing the film Unconventional Grey about Geoengineering and controlling the weather. This documenter was eliminated before the film was finished in 2016, but here it is in 2023. [Link]

Dwoods44 Watch how the radar is turned on and manipulates the weather front... [Link]

Dwoods44 'A HAWAIIAN HOLOCAUST' Max Igan [Link]

parzival I like Max because he includes video clips which we don't see otherwise.

parzival Thanks for the Hillary hurricane link.

Dwoods44 It would appear that Sacha is stoned.

parzival Thought I'd add this for good measure: [Link]

griever Coincidences happen and in America you don't jump to the worst conclusion when you lack any evidence.

Mcsnack Lacking any evidence? Is that supposed to be a joke?

48-yr Arborist Blows the Whistle on Maui WildFire, None of this Makes Sense:

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"Over the years I've come to different conclusions. I believe most of these fires are microwave based. All the materials that did burn shouldn't have. And all the materials that didn't burn should have".

griever So a professional tree planter is your evidence? Wow how could you ever be steered in the wrong direction.

Mcsnack You need to take a trolling class you're terrible at it. Yes someone who studies the effects forest fires on trees for decades might know when a major fire doesn't add up. But since you pretend to know more about such a thing than he does, here is more evidence for you to smugly dismiss:

Journalism Blackout Fence Erected Around Lahaina, Foreign Police On Patrol, Drones Downed [Link]
Lahania Coverup By Vegas Massacre Police Chief: Journalists Arrested, Drones Disallowed, Walls Built [Link]
"Going in A Circle in A Fire Pit" Maui Police Blocked Off Exits While Residents Tried to Escape [Link]
Melted Cars From Outside The Fire Zone In Lahaina? How Can This Be?? [Link]

griever This wasn't a forest fire. His expertise isn't valid in this situation. You wouldn't want a brain surgeon operating on your heart would you? No because even tho he's surgically trained it's not his area of expertise.

griever Yeah, no. He understands what causes trees to burn.

Here is one of his pieces of evidence he presents regarding trees that should have burned not burning:

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So the fire jumps over roads and trees to catch fire to another commercial cinderblock building and demolishes it to mostly ash, while the trees are unharmed?

Are you being paid to be this obtuse? If so, how much?

griever Yeah, no. He understands what causes trees to burn.

Here is one of his pieces of evidence he presents regarding trees that should have burned not burning:

[Link]
So the fire jumps over roads and trees to catch fire to another commercial cinderblock building and demolishes it to mostly ash, while the trees are unharmed?

Are you being paid to be this obtuse? If so, how much?

This isn't obtuse. It is what is required to accept someone as an expert and take their advice. The guy has no training on tropical forests. This also wasn't a forest fire. His opinion has no validity. This is what is called misinformation. You are being given information that isn't from an expert. A logical person would avoid this persons conclusions.

Mcsnack Are you honing your standup routine? The guy knows how and why trees burn. They did not burn when they should have you LARPing expert. A fire that can turn cinderblock to ash would make short work of a nearby tree. This is second grade logic.

Do you get paid by the post or the hour? Seriously?

griever The CIA Has Hired Domestic NAZIS For Terror Operations At Home & Abroad [Link]

griever It don't think it watched the video, g.

griever "The waves were on fire".

That's pretty new...[Link]

griever y'all get paid by the stabs🫣

You dudes really unable to converse like adults?

Are you honing your standup routine? The guy knows how and why trees burn. They did not burn when they should have you LARPing expert. A fire that can turn cinderblock to ash would make short work of a nearby tree. This is second grade logic.

Do you get paid by the post or the hour? Seriously?

And

And

LindaMay Agree on the online discourse. This is worth a watch if you have not seen it: [Link]
It's gotten ludicrous.

As for conversing like adults, you're probably right, I should do better than I have been lately.

griever

Your link shows the chess horse n dice.

LindaMay My apologies, it is fixed now.

[Link]

VooDoo6 So you are saying that there is no such thing as a coincidence? Well we can see who the fool and liar is that's for sure.

Dwoods44 Good info. Only thing I'd add is to keep in mind that "Colluding trolls" can often be the same person with multiple accounts.

Shalmaneser Or one account with several users working shifts on that account.

Dwoods44 Excellent post. Thank you. One of my reactions is to simply ignore, some would say shun, those trolls. I will sometimes reference one of them in a sideways fashion, but I refuse to interact directly. And yeah, I agree, there do seem to be some of each variety around. And sometimes it's just some crank with time on their hands.

Highland Fleet Lute ...that would explain post showing up at all hours, eh? Most of us actually sleep now and then......hey, could they be zombies???

balboa schwartz We never close.

Maybe it's a new kind of brain scan to find out if you've had your cerebellum removed.

You'd have to have something missing to want to engage with it.

I'd expect better punctuation and grammar from AI.

Unless someone's been sold shoddy goods of course.

Shalmaneser True. I'm voting for Highland Fleet Luke for troll. He rarely makes sense and always is talking off topic. And he's obviously been dropped on his head a few too many times.

Highland Fleet Lute Bless your heart.

Highland Fleet Lute And we have your brain scan results in: I'm sorry no brain was detected. But the good news is we didn't scan your ass and it could be located there.

balboa schwartz Yea because people don't suffer from ADD or ADHD which causes insomnia and restless legs. 🙄 But if there were zombies you would be safe since they eat brains..

balboa schwartz you sound stupid too now. You've all regressed to can-can peewees pissin' your knickers.

...that would explain post showing up at all hours, eh? Most of us actually sleep now and then......hey, could they be zombies???

Dwoods44 The donkey told the tiger, “The grass is blue.”

The tiger replied, “No, the grass is green.”

The discussion became heated, and the two decided to submit the issue to arbitration, so they approached the lion.

As they approached the lion on his throne, the donkey started screaming: ′′Your Highness, isn’t it true that the grass is blue?”

The lion replied: “If you believe it is true, the grass is blue.”

The donkey rushed forward and continued: ′′The tiger disagrees with me, contradicts me and annoys me. Please punish him.”

The king then declared: ′′The tiger will be punished with 3 days of silence.”

The donkey jumped with joy and went on his way, content and repeating ′′The grass is blue, the grass is blue…”

The tiger asked the lion, “Your Majesty, why have you punished me, after all, the grass is green?”

The lion replied, ′′You’ve known and seen the grass is green.”

The tiger asked, ′′So why do you punish me?”

The lion replied, “That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green.

The punishment is because it is degrading for a brave, intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with an ass, and on top of that, you came and bothered me with that question just to validate something you already knew was true!”

The biggest waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who doesn’t care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions.

Never waste time on discussions that make no sense. There are people who, for all the evidence presented to them, do not have the ability to understand.

Trolls who are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want is to be right even if they aren’t.

parzival Now read that back except this time make you the subject of it. Works both ways fella.

parzival TheCourseInMiraclesMyAss!!

parzival That was pretty good! My dad had a somewhat shorter version: Never argue with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.

Shalmaneser here's more for the dirt-little-🐷-minds.

Shalmaneser Shorter version, thanks!

Shalmaneser Always fishing...trolls do what trolls do....[Link]

parzival Thursday: Moon void in Gemini 3:22pm in Cancer 10:00pm PDT. Moon void in day with Mercury retrograde is chaotic. Take the confusion with a grain of salt. If ya wanna get dramatic, triggers are endlessly available. Tomorrow's Mercury trine Jupiter casts a vibe of solid success.

Mcsnack As a general rule of life, I do my best to avoid contact with poisonous hissing snakes like yourself, but your HYPOCRISY is so sickening (hypocrisy is a sickness of the heart... it's the root cause of psychopathy), and as I try to follow the teachings of the Christ, I feel it is necessary to imitate Christ, and that includes calling up the hypocrites to their derangement.

It is obvious to everyone that you are a mentally-deranged, brain-damaged, heart-broken little goof-ball. You spit venom at everyone for no reason, which to me is an indication that you are a premature ejaculating little twerp who has been made bitter by life's tests that you've never managed to overcome. Just observe how you write: it is just like a hated-filled premature ejaculating burnt up drug addict who has probably never gotten over the fact that your girlfriend cheated on you, or perhaps you've never had one (how can a 'man' filled with so much bile and hate be able to please a woman).

I don't write this to insult you, but to try and help you see that whilst you are possibly writing here and now with a physical body, your consciousness is already in hell... and when you die, if you do not change, that is where you'll be going.

Life is difficult enough as it is without having to spew hatred and venom to everyone around us... Without knowing it, you are actually helping the good people here to fortify their goodness... So, keep up the good work, you miserable squirt.

For others who may read, there are many tests in life, and there are two ways to pass those tests: become harder and more corrupted and heartless (like McSnack for the demons here), or to become more tender, sensitive and conscious of the suffering of others, and to thus undertsand how and why such people are suffering.

PedroCarpintero The problem with Mcsnack is that he is a lawyer and thinks he is above everyone intellectually. Lawyers to me are just like used car sales men they have no remorse in how they screw you over by selling you a lemon.

One might ask what's the difference between a lawyer and a prostitute. The short answer is, the prostitute will quit fu.... when your dead.

PedroCarpintero oufff PC

I'd say you failed your test.

I'll also add one does not write to insult another but to reveal oneself meanwhile filthing the environment or not.

WoW! You must really be having a bad hairday. That was quite a vile mouthfull.

Violating violates the harmony of life and death.

THAT was violent.

McS doesn't need to collect cheerleaders. He is living his life.

LindaMay Hey LM

Thanks for your comments. It probably was violent (though they are just words). McS is a reflection of myself: I too used to be that actively poisonous, and needless to say I still have that poison inside... and as you probably have noted, I can well be more of a dick than McS. In this case, I felt it was justified... Like Persius' polished shield to reflect the hissing-snaked head Medusa, sometimes we have to reflect back to people what they are.

He doesn't need cheerleaders, but he needs someone to tell him that he's on the highway to hell.. Isn't that what friends would do for one another?

And on that note, thanks for pointing that out for me.

PedroCarpintero you are on that HiWay.

The monkeymind wants to justify n count n enumerate n explain n describe n whine n scratch n excuse n (shall I continue???)

VIOLENCE IS NEVER JUSTIFIED! KARMIC SPELLING (words) you goof!!

Straighten out your spine or keep talkin' and see where the WALK FINDS YOU!!!!

Friends?? What a joke!! You are hating! You are frauding n cowardly preaching! BigMouth emotional vomit!

Don't thank me, I've O.D.'d on thanks n sorries a whole longggg time ago.

GangRapers!!!! 🤮

PedroCarpintero You had me at poisonous. You have an uncomfortable obession with sexual descriptions. This is a sign that you have a mental health issue called pathological narcissism.

Im sure you are used to being surrounded by people suffering.

LindaMay Would you say this is a clear diagnosis of Pedro?

Characteristics of pathological narcissism may lead a person to have a chronic need for personal gratification and attention. Additionally, they may be socially dominant and ambitious. A tendency to brag, a lack of empathy toward others, and a dependence on others to fulfill responsibilities can also be common. They experience difficulty developing meaningful relationships that last. This is because their personality is sometimes abusive and belittling toward others.

When a person with narcissistic personality disorder does not get their way, they become angry or aggressive. Some people with narcissistic personality disorder physically or sexually abuse others as a means of controlling them.

Im pretty confident in my diagnosis. Especially since Pedro was using verbal sexual attacks(abuse) to demean as a way to control.

Patrick2017 One might ask Patrick whats the difference between a prostitute and his life? A prostitute stops fucking you.

Mcsnack Amoral n Beastly comes to mind for the entire past month.

A fallen society.

Pick n Choose

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Mcsnack Behold your mirror... That's what makes us hypocrites: we project onto others the shadow that we are unable to see in ourselves.

Mcsnack

Would you say this is a clear diagnosis of Pedro?

Just look at the laughable hypocrite you are: You criticize everyone on this comments section, for ridiculous things like not dotting and 'i' or crossing a 't', as if you are the most independent mind on the planet... but now that YOU are being shown your errors, you suddenly turn for assistance to the first friendly idiot that is too nice to comprehend that folks like you need a bit of a slap in the face to wake them up. Isn't that hypocrisy to a Tee? (I don't know how to write the phrase, but I'm sure you'll be the first the snigger and correct me... “they swallow a camel and squint at a gnat”, as the hypocrites are described).

Many folks here have provided good opinions and good links for us all to get more privy and knowledgeable on the subject, using their own personal time to write and find links to help us all wake up, and hardly everyone is left unscathed by your childish comments... If you were making opinions and critiques about the NewsReal in itself, I could stomach your opinions albeit if they be different... but you are making comments about the comments about the comments, as if this is some kind of “who is more intellectually superior” stand off. I think you've successfully managed to get everyone sick of reading these comments, and that is why everyone (except the blind) can see you as an attention diverting troll, whether getting paid or doing this for free.

You have an uncomfortable obession with sexual descriptions. This is a sign that you have a mental health issue called pathological narcissism.

Obsession is spelt with an additional S between the B and E, McIdiot (I couldn't actually give a damn, but seeing that you like dishing out that kind of treatment, then let's do unto others as they would have us do unto us... swallowing a camel and squinting at a gnat.)

Let's analyze your words using your own words:

One might ask Patrick whats the difference between a prostitute and his life? A prostitute stops fucking you.

That sounds like a sexual description to me... those are your words. That is the kind of sickening hypocrisy which I'm talking about.

I can relate to you, because I have been in your shoes: thinking myself to be all-knowing, considering myself to have the best opinions, not willing to listen to others, trying to step on others intellectually... Why? Because I felt sexually inadequate, and the only notion of being 'superior' was through my intellect, so I would use that to brand and attack others. I know what its like McSnack, and clearly, as you've expressed in your own word, you feel like life is fucking you... You don't have to be this nasty screwed up perverse person, it's alright to be 'nice' (although it is considered a satanic sin).

If you need any additional advice, please respond with a hissing spitting comment, and I'll do my best to put your toys back in the pram, my little Mcsnacky.

Mcsnack

Would you say this is a clear diagnosis of Pedro?

Just look at the laughable hypocrite you are: You criticize everyone on this comments section, for ridiculous things like not dotting and 'i' or crossing a 't', as if you are the most independent mind on the planet... but now that YOU are being shown your errors, you suddenly turn for assistance to the first friendly idiot that is too nice to comprehend that folks like you need a bit of a slap in the face to wake them up. Isn't that hypocrisy to a Tee? (I don't know how to write the phrase, but I'm sure you'll be the first the snigger and correct me... “they swallow a camel and squint at a gnat”, as the hypocrites are described).

Many folks here have provided good opinions and good links for us all to get more privy and knowledgeable on the subject, using their own personal time to write and find links to help us all wake up, and hardly everyone is left unscathed by your childish comments... If you were making opinions and critiques about the NewsReal in itself, I could stomach your opinions albeit if they be different... but you are making comments about the comments about the comments, as if this is some kind of “who is more intellectually superior” stand off. I think you've successfully managed to get everyone sick of reading these comments, and that is why everyone (except the blind) can see you as an attention diverting troll, whether getting paid or doing this for free.

You have an uncomfortable obession with sexual descriptions. This is a sign that you have a mental health issue called pathological narcissism.

Obsession is spelt with an additional S between the B and E, McIdiot (I couldn't actually give a damn, but seeing that you like dishing out that kind of treatment, then let's do unto others as they would have us do unto us... swallowing a camel and squinting at a gnat.)

Let's analyze your words using your own words:

One might ask Patrick whats the difference between a prostitute and his life? A prostitute stops fucking you.

That sounds like a sexual description to me... those are your words. That is the kind of sickening hypocrisy which I'm talking about.

I can relate to you, because I have been in your shoes: thinking myself to be all-knowing, considering myself to have the best opinions, not willing to listen to others, trying to step on others intellectually... Why? Because I felt sexually inadequate, and the only notion of being 'superior' was through my intellect, so I would use that to brand and attack others. I know what its like McSnack, and clearly, as you've expressed in your own word, you feel like life is fucking you... You don't have to be this nasty screwed up perverse person, it's alright to be 'nice' (although it is considered a satanic sin).

If you need any additional advice, please respond with a hissing spitting comment, and I'll do my best to put your toys back in the pram, my little Mcsnacky.

You sure know how to waste your life!!

Throw your 🥾👟👞 in the washer. Hot water soap n javex can maybe still help some. 🤪

LindaMay I don't think trying to help Mcsnacks is a complete waste of time... I reckon he's a good egg at heart.

LindaMay I don't think trying to help Mcsnacks is a complete waste of time... I reckon he's a good egg at heart.

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PedroCarpintero My light shines from directly above. I cast no shadow.And I only leave footprints where I go.

PedroCarpintero It was a clever joke using Pat's "One might ask what's the difference between a lawyer and a prostitute. The short answer is, the prostitute will quit fu.... when your dead."

You know clever, as in a characteristic that has never been used to describe you.

To speak ill of others is a dishonest way of praising ourselves. Nothing is often a good thing to say, and always a clever thing to say.

PedroCarpintero It was a clever joke using Pat's "One might ask what's the difference between a lawyer and a prostitute. The short answer is, the prostitute will quit fu.... when your dead."

You know clever, as in a characteristic that has never been used to describe you.

To speak ill of others is a dishonest way of praising ourselves. Nothing is often a good thing to say, and always a clever thing to say.

You sure got THAT right TOO

PedroCarpintero Bravo! [Link]

Mcsnack

My light shines from directly above. I cast no shadow.And I only leave footprints where I go.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:... That's brilliant! You also leave belly-laughs and hypocrisy. Did you write that with a straight face, or with duper's delight?

You know clever, as in a characteristic that has never been used to describe you.

...and quickly followed by...

To speak ill of others is a dishonest way of praising ourselves.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:... Stop! STOP!!! You're killing me! That takes the hypocrite trophy...

PedroCarpintero as for being an authority on 'judging' your profile description 💉🎈

LindaMay What is going on Linda? Is this some kind of Invasion of the Bodysnatchers? Why are you teaming up and cheerleading for this prat?

There exists evil in the good... for instance, the “good” person that licks the boots of the lunatic that has broken into his house and is about to rape his wife and children. The supposed “good” person that lends a knife to a serial killer. The “good” people who blindly support the genocidal government without questioning. In reality, such people are not good at all, but accomplices of the evils of the world... that is the problem with 'morality', it is just blind unconscious acceptance of social norms, the antechamber to 'political correctness'... For instance, “we must tolerate everyone” can be taken to the moral extreme of being intolerant being intolerance.

“judging”... Believe it or not, I am no saint, and neither are you, we all have defects and problems of some kind, so let's not pretend that we are perfect by projecting a false image in the world that we don't ever ever judge others... You ARE being judgmental, don't pretend you are not and that by putting the word 'judging' into apostrophes then we are exempt from judging... It's like the story of the Jew who did business on the Sabbath, because in the moment of doing the business in his mind it was theoretically “Tuesday”. Go ahead and judge me, but please don't create some psychotic bubble around that judgment and thereby consider yourself exempt from your judgments. Your comments in these days go to show that you too are capable of trolling, of being aggressive, of being intolerant and hate-filled... Let's not pretend to be perfect, let's not be hypocrites.

I've always had respect for your Linda, but I will call a spade a spade: Please please, don't be another two-faced HYPOCRITE like Mcsnacks the professional lawyer of double-speak. Whereas he is at one end of the 'nice/not nice' extreme, you are at the other end, being too nice, ““not hating”” and ““not judging””, that you are now showing your manipulative side. It's not such a big problem being manipulative... the bigger problem is not seeing how manipulative one is due to believing oneself to be 'a good person'.

Mcsnack needs to understand that he is ill with hypocrisy (the “not nice” hypocrite)... and you are stopping that medicine from being administered... so please, get out of the way, or take the same medicine: Stop being a hypocrite (the “nice” hypocrite).

PedroCarpintero PC I do not doubt you wish to mean well.

1. You write too much, as most.

2. You live in your mind, as most.

3. I live in my brain -- most have one.

4. As a youngin' my Dad said "listen to her"

5. As a teen my Dad told y'all 'don't argue with her'

6. As a post teen my Dad said "y'all let her win"

7. As a Senior he says -- follow her shine🌟

(7 is my lucky number as is 17)

I walk 'the' way -- ¡imposiblé!

You think im pretentious, (I feel that coming ) that is fine (saying that nicely).

YOU need to wash more than your footwear PC. You need to wash your face before you take a good look in the mirror 🔎 because your spit n hiss only gukk you up.

the violent violate the harmony of life and death

If you wish to converse with me more, find an empty thread n call me.

PedroCarpintero I am no hypocrite. I have to respond in the same degree with which the conversation was first initiated. Otherwise the antagonist will continue to try to assert power,especially when they have the weakest point in the argument. My points are usually too strong to argue so people must then attack my character in order to try to weaken all my arguments.

PedroCarpintero whats the first rule of fight club? Dont talk about fight club! First rule for trolls? Dont feed the trolls!

Dog What's the first rule about dogs? Neuter them. Keeps them from humping everything

Dog

PedroCarpintero whats the first rule of fight club? Dont talk about fight club! First rule for trolls? Dont feed the trolls!

Feeding the Devil gets your life.

Mcsnack our troll has outed himself.

Dog The only thing outed here is you acting like a child instead of an adult.

Tsakoug 🤔

Dog regressed to teenybopper 🙈

Dwoods44 I see the same exact thing it is in front of our face not hidden.

Gnostic it squats in our nostrils.

Sneeze n release.

LindaMay Release what?

Gnostic all the crap in our faces, (not hidden)... is actually in us. Outside is a reflection. Maya (illusion).

LindaMay Mon Cheri 🍒

Gnostic all the crap in our faces, (not hidden)... is actually in us. Outside is a reflection. Maya (illusion).

Just wanted point out that the very word “Maya” & it’s civilization - culture were experiments or programs an human ideology.

Always been the Maya aka the Demiurge. They try to teach us by method of revelation how they built the Demiurge. It’s people who refuse to learn or accept it for what it is. Doesn’t mean we have to continue to accept it. They have been using Method of Revelation for hundreds of years in the codex.

Plato’s Cave is very real & far, far far bigger - larger than many people here comprehend or think deeper with more passion &

understanding vs. ego - Dunning-Krueger Effect - cognitive dissonance / cognitive bias etc.

Unfortunately we can’t make people think & Power (real power) will never concede nothing until enough people decide to change that reality we actually live in.

Cheers & Namaste’ Mon Cheri 🍒🔥🥂

VooDoo6 exactly yes merci toujours says LindaMaya

My Dad always a smart Man🥰

Hamlet -- and, thus by opposing, end them.

VooDoo6 Thank you for that. Abraxas is quite the worm. No we don’t have to accept any of it. Be well VooDoo.

Gnostic,

VooDoo6 Thank you for that. Abraxas is quite the worm. No we don’t have to accept any of it. Be well VooDoo.

Yes exactly. Whether it be Zurvan / Abraxas / Chounubis / Ahriman / Angra Mainyu et al.

Instead of asking who was Carl Jung people should be asking why was Carl Jung wearing a Ring with Chounubis carved into it ? Who was Chounubis ? Who was Abaraxas ? Who was Zurvan ?

Cheers

VooDoo6 I stumbled onto the various forms of the name and one is Cannabis.

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Gnostic,

VooDoo6 I stumbled onto the various forms of the name and one is Cannabis.

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Exactly. Part of the “Maya” & demiurge matrix.

Gregore the Magnificent There are no coincidences. Thank you for your post.

Gnostic what about co-incidence? [Link]

Or is it the same thing as coincidence "a remarkable concurrence of events or circumstances without apparent causal connection". Or is that just a coincidence? 🤔

Gregore the Magnificent .. and then there's coincident.... Coincident is a mix of the prefix co- (meaning “together” and “similar”) and an incident, which means "a noteworthy event." So when you have two similar noteworthy events that happen together, they are coincident with one other.

Gregore the Magnificent etymology will clear your queries up.