The narrator - and presumably Moore by proxy - are something like 'original greenies': they once really believed that 'if we just mandate X', then 'something could be done' to 'make the world a better place'. But as Gibbs takes us through his 'identity crisis' as a greenie, he shows how that 'revolutionary dream' was coopted by bad actors whose vision of 'greening the economy' was actualized as a flood of greenbacks into their corporate bank accounts.
The peak insanity of the whole scam - which is not even fully realized by Gibbs because he continues to believe in other false axioms like 'oil bad' and 'humans control climate' - is that it's founded on the unproven 19th century theory that fossil fuels like oil are 'really old, partly decomposed trees'. And because combusting them for energy produces the side-effect of emitting CO2, it must be that CO2 which is being observed to increase in the atmosphere. And so it must be that which is causing global temperatures to rise. And so it must be that which is causing the increase in extreme weather phenomena and seismic upheaval.
As the documentary shows, this edifice of assumptions has driven madmen in power to mine minerals like never before in order to build largely useless batteries, solar panels and windfarms, and cull forests of LIVING trees like never before in order to combust those for 'green, clean biomass' energy instead of oil and gas. As one of Gibbs' interviewees comments: "You would have been better off just burning the fossil fuels in the first place, instead of playing pretend."
Exactly so. If you really do believe that 'man-made CO2 will kill us all'... then you ought - by your own logic - to be a die-hard activist AGAINST the green movement. 'We' (people generally, and the environment) are now in a WORSE position because 'we' attempted to intervene on the basis of false beliefs. Nevertheless the documentary concludes that unless 'we' take back 'our' green movement from the billionaires and trillionaires, it will be too late to 'save the planet'.
But that of course is the very thing that got us into this mess in the first place, and is the very essence of the problem: getting past our hubris that 'we' can 'save' anything, much less a planetary organism that is vastly larger and older than us! Don't worry; She will 'save herself' as and when She needs to. But can 'we' as individuals, even 'save' ourselves? Can we overcome our juvenile denial of death to recognize that we first must master ourselves?
Enjoy Planet of the Humans...
Reader Comments
R.C.
Someone needs to look at how to make nuclear power safely.
R.C.
*And while I probably used it first at age 12? I also quit it first by age 16, so I get accused of not liking it - or tobacco, which I've never used.
Rather, I say, let every competent person smoke pot, smoke frying pans - I don't care; just don't make me pay for it.
RC
the reason That Tesla won out over Edison is that AC power can be transported over long, even vast distances. with very little or no 'line losses the same cannot be said for DC power. and now you know the truth of the matter.
the word 'petroleum' means rock oil. petroleum etymology
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not 'fossil' oil.
hydrocarbons are considered 'organic' compounds as a result of the 'fossil' fuel theory.
Carbon definition, a widely distributed element that forms organic compounds in combination with hydrogen, oxygen, etc., [Link]
below your feet, there is a VERY large amount of Hydrogen, Oxygen, Carbon and Heat. (hence rock oil)
hope that helps Love,
and will put you in the 'drivers seat'
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and also to invite any other knowledgeable souls to... challenge me? invite intellectual discourse? I am aware that I do not write well.
all competent HVAC/R techs understand that they are... hated. and dare not talk about what they KNOW to be true.
times have changed.
Canned Heat.
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R.C.
*E.g., My Mum - engineer extraordinaire, UCF Valedictorian in Math and Computer Science Engineering (dual major in ~ 3 years, While raising seven! kids - my three siblings, plus RC who counted as four - - knows that she's always been an the exception.**
** I wonder where I got such a feeling from?
RC
Thanks!
Just search for "thorium reactor", and you will find a hundred articles. The political disadvantage to it is that its byproducts cannot be used to make bombs. I was going to give other links, but apparently the SOTT editor permits only one link in a post.
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I used the term 'hemp' meaning as the set including both pot and 'industrial hemp.' After all, you can use it for healthy oils, you can use it to make paper, and, on the psychoactive side, can use it to enjoy that. It just has never been my fav.
Far from enjoyable though, it's all quite horrific really
In the meantime I’ll have a look, how bad could it be.
I imagine that it would be about as enlightening and informative as your posts.
( that was not sarcasm)
boy George is the only thing that comes to mind sir.
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We are so up our own *ssholes it's not funny.
Eventually we are going to need some sort of sustainable energy... or just delay that by population reduction (a recurring nasty virus, say) or delayed consumption (locking people down, stopping them travelling, working from home).
For a time I actually though biofuels were the answer - but there's just too many people to feed and fuel on limited land. The only answer to central grid storage problems seems to be everyone producing their own energy when they need it... from a (bio) fuel source with supplemental solar/heat pumps, etc. A decentralised model and more self-sufficiency. Maybe a small cold fusion generator in the basement
If enough sheeple woke up for realz we could clean up this planet and be done with all the retarded infrastructure in 3 decades. Reduce governments to 10% and use ONLY good people in them... LOLZ
This planet could actually be a nice and cozy home to 50 billion people with no problems... but
“ Planet of the Humans is wildly unscientific, outdated, full of falsehoods, and benefits fossil fuel industry promoters and climate deniers.”
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james goransrud says:
The cost to the environment loss birds and destruction of the planet to mine rare earth metals… is not mentioned in your commentary…you use up more concrete rare earth metals then you generate power.. plus the wasted land setting up solar panels… what about the cost to recycle the said turbines and solar panels…
usJim says:
re: ” I pointed out that Ozzie Zehner is a quack seven years ago”
Debunking on the merits (or lack thereof) is one thing; It is quite another to simply have a differing opinion and label the opposing argument “quackery”.It seems to me that mankind is headed down the road (on many fronts) where the practicality of an idea is ignored, where the engineering analysis (overall cost-benefit analysis) considering the cost of materials, the construction, required access (roads to the mountain top) the buildings, the transmission lines and facility maintenance costs are ignored, because, (perceived) green!No more logos (logic) or rationality can be had on this subject, its ‘hard against the peg’ saturation with no middle ground, and that’s __not__ rational!
lunaticridge says:
I bow to Michael Moor for his bravery and honesty.
Most of the critiques of the film are made up of personal smears and nasty attacks on the artistic quality of the film, interspersed here and there with scant bits of info that is difficult to understand even if one is not suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect. This particular review is pure demagoguery—like most of the other critiques by the deeply hurt environmentalists. It is as painful to read as the praises from the right-wing assholes.
Peter Dickson says:
This film is a polemic against the corporate interests who have (in the USA and probably Australia too) subverted the environmental movements. There is no doubt in my mind that this is correct. Listen to Richard Aedy’s podcast on ABC Radio National, Hot Mess. @lunaticridge, I’m not agreeing with anything you say, other than to say that Bill McKibben came across as “shifty” to me, possibly because of who seems to be sponsoring him. And Ketan Joshi, another thread in the film shows the problems with continued “growth”. Is unlimited growth what we need? What happened to the replaced solar panels at Sunray? Recycled?
Nothing is beyond examination. And the problem is within ourselves.
Berries and Figs says:
Thank you for your voice. I agree with many of your points. Unfortunately, most of your arguments are buried in a repetitive avalanche of bitter, caustic adjectives. Why?Nine times, yes, NINE times in this essay, you try to associate Jeff Gibbs with the “climate denier” label. Anybody who has watched the film or has followed Jeff Gibbs knows this is preposterous. Again, why?
The only thing your attacks accomplish is to a) turn away those curious in your message and b) garner pat-on-the-back chuckles from those already in your corner.You note the irony of Gibbs driving around in his combustion engine vehicle, yet seem to completely fail to recognize the irony of an essay dedicated to calling a film “lazy” that is written with more “lazy” mudslinging in place of actually wrestling with the thesis of the film – “For advocates of ecologic justice, Are reductive equations of carbon dioxide really the hill we want to die on?”Your arguments are important. But you seem to ignore the larger question of the film. And in your anger, you risk turning your readers away from your arguments more than bringing them in.
This is not a 'belief' thing, it is science and logic designed to disperse the 'green dreams' which are hopeful and fun but currently unrealistic.
For a bunch of 'intelligent' SOTT readers the comments in this section are disappointing. We have enough shills for both sides making noises.
Planet of the humans. I am a human but I sure don't have any say over anything that goes on on this planet. I'm stuck in this mess with no viable alternative. The problem is the same across the board, no matter the issue, money, or maybe I should say the accumulation of. I've wondered now and then as I am doing now how I'd be, what kind of man I'd be if I'd been born in a big $ family.
I had read that green energy was a scam, a for profit business and this documentary drove the point home but as in all important issues there is not much I can do if I could do anything at all. For god's sake even the big planet wide environmental groups are in for the money. That made me laugh but I'm not laughing because it is funny.
A very specific kind of people need to be wiped off, to the last one, of the face of this planet. There, I've said it. And that's not about to happen. I am aware this last bit is unrealistic and probably illegal to even say it. I guess I am ungrateful given all I have thanks to those billionnaires (...) but I don't have any other solution to propose. Even then, we are too far down that path to turn back. What we need is a major solar flare to bring everything to a standstill for years. That's not good either so I'll just forget the matter and live what I have left trying to enjoy the bit I have while I can.
Enter Bill Gates and his vaccinations...
Also a lot of the footage is very old, just how long have these guys been making this? I kinda get some of the messages from this doc but really all it highlights is that NO form of energy is ‘green’.
So is it an extinction rebellion kind of documentary where we should all pack our bags and feck off back to the Stone Age? I don’t know.
I’m glad I watched it but it leaves me with more questions than anything else. Oh and a sense of hate towards humans in general which really helps/solves nothing.
I get the impression that they have been programmed to think this way, i.e. there is a narrative being pushed for people to accept the concept of a massive cull
So when that was the point of the movie and the proposed "solution", I was disappointed.
The opening segments of the movie included the presumption that humans are causing the warming, which I immediately called out as being false. So, the premise and the conclusion are both false. Other than that, I liked the movie. It pointed out things I have known for a decade or more, but still it needed to be said, and the billion-dollar economy of the so-called Green Movement should be called out for being the scam that it is.
I've read so many comments from people like that and always coming from environmentalists who seem to care more about the planet than humans.
Moore is another eugenicist so I am reluctant to watch his movie and as we are at this very moment about to witness the beginning of the 'great culling' I've been reading about for so long, the environment isn't a priority.
I can tell you, I'm sick of it. I'm ready for it to be done already. I've been hearing this song of doom my entire life. This documentary is just more of the same. Was I supposed to believe the likes of "Blood and Gore?" Ever? I'm sorry so many people are so easily fooled. I would have preferred a more sinister villain to be defeated by, myself, like Darth Vader or The Joker. This is like being duped by Snidely Whiplash.
I can't imagine expecting victory over even a bad chest-cold from this pathetic lot of Babylonians. The present world leaders couldn't beat their way out of a wet paper sack, let alone solve a real crisis (supposing they wanted to). There will be one too. Eventually. There always is. Like this specter in the video, but probably it will be even an even dumber catastrophe that will do us in. No spectacular falling of the sky like the dinosaurs get remembered for. Nope. It will be stupid, like falling on our own erections and poking our brains out. That is essentially how I see it. Ya, "science" will save us. Sure.
Whatever is in the TV must be really bad. I was raised to assume politicians were full of shift. How the hell this generation didn't seem to sort that out is beyond me. They probably ought to wear masks...out of shame, and they certainly ought to stay at least 6 feet away from me, thanks. I actually don't want whatever they have.
Continent sized garbage patches didn't even get mentioned in this documentary. I always wonder why the green-beings never mention those. It seems relevant, and since we were looking for "elephants in the room," how does it not get noticed here either. Whatever. Sad story. Not a new one though. None of this is news. It's an old hat worn by an old nemesis. Same ol'screwface he ever was.
It's interesting to see Moore Spilling it like a revelation. I suppose it gives him the illusion of credibility to "expose" what seemed obvious to me when I was 9: the grown-ups are all dead.
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The problem is, it’s hard to say who to believe these days, so I try and listen to them all.
Believe your own informed, discerning conclusions - but never forget, the more you learn, the more you know you're not as savvy as you thought at first. (Aka, “The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” Bard. As You Like It.)
RC
I’m an addict in that respect!
1) He started making it on MSM, albeit as a 'right wing conspiracy theorist'; AND,M
2) His site started shutting down ALL ZOG evidence.
I have a hope that he might realize that he was used.
He ain't the end all and be all, but it appears (perhaps) that he's not the shill he became.
R.C.
RC - I am proud to say I am a SOTTite! What I love most about this site is the sense of community, and I learn an awful lot just from everyone’s comments/links.
On a similar topic, Moore's a jackass. No one should need to provide an excuse not to watch Moore. But Christ, if people here think you do, just mention Roger & Me and Bowling for Columbine. That said I'm sure it's a great 2 hours I would never spend.
However, A friend of mine told me about the movie Planet of the Humans, suggested that I watch it. I was not told beforehand that it was produced by Moore; or I most likely/probably/maybe/most likely wouldn't watch it
Well, I did watch it
& what I felt was a sense of vindication! (even though I was, and still am, analyzing it for propaganda. Yes, yes, besides the depopulation acceptableness.) On a personal level, I have been trying to get the message across about "the fraud of the GREEN
$$$ industry" for nearly a decade.
Mr. Gibb definitely had more resources and higher contacts than I ever have. Still I was confused about why, WHY MOORE?
I am not sure.
At least the message is out?
Now what?
On some level I am sure that people will still be unable to accept the outcome.
If not renewables/alternatives , then what? We are in deep, deep, doo doo. No matter what you believe, or don't believe about
Climate Change; you can surely see that our days of consuming on this planet are coming on like a derailed train.
The one thing that you can be sure of, the powers that be will milk this cow until there's nothing coming out. Then what? What do they do with cows that do not produce? Yep, that's right. ~Glue.
Every position can be used as a vehicle for revenue. Causes get co'opted all of the time. Just look at what has happened to many of the organizations that are said to be there to "help" people... Or to find a 'cure'.
Just look at what has happened with the "virus". It's become a brand for pete sake. Every morning, afternoon all through the day, the brand is being used.
The GREEN NEW DEAL
is a deal inside a deal,, shhh, don't tell anyone!
Just think about the gigantic, monumental, unprecedented power and money you'd stand to make; if you were sitting in the driver's seat of break-through technology "that could SAVE the WORLD!" (?)
I assure you, anything that could save the world, is, not yet known , or would have had to have been done long ago.
Could there be a miracle, a techno miracle to save us? Perhaps. Unicorns might exist somewhere in the world.
We were not in the dark about the dangers our future would face. And the thing that Gibb might have told you is; this has been known since the late 1700's/ yes, that's right. You can either use your pecking skills to search for it, or you can go to the book house, yeah you know, back in the day we called em' libraries (well now you can't because of this agenda virus) but later on, blow the dust of the jacket and read about Joseph Fourier 'father of Greenhouse Effect'. You see, the theory of human population's ability to affect the planet goes way back in time.
Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with any political party. In fact I am a political atheist. So if you plan to bash me, you best do it on the context of my writing, and not by a 'left, right' houdy poo .
Gates
I have been asking around from my end. TBA i am hoping.