Science of the Spirit
I had a lot of fun. Rolo's a great conversationalist, has a lot of interesting things to say, and challenged me on some of my more half-baked ideas, which provided a lot of food for thought. No doubt we will continue the conversation at some point!
Among the topics discussed:
The necessity to start with experience. Much theology and philosophy is mere speculation — games of logic using untested assumptions. As Rolo argued, logic isn't the place to start. Like the left hemisphere, it must only be used in service to the whole of experience, bringing it into order. In this case, that means the reality of evil: on earth and as is presented in mystical experience.
Many people have a tendency to deny the reality of evil. In the world, this may mean denying what our lying eyes plainly perceive. This may also extend to thinking of evil not as really evil, but merely as good in disguise — a type of optical illusion. Anyone who has come face to face with evil will have trouble buying that one.
The gnostic resurgence. It's easy to imagine God is good and all is right with the world in good times. But when the veil is removed and evil unmasked for all to see (if they have eyes to see it), the old philosophies feel stale and wholly inadequate. An encounter with reality requires new conceptions of reality.
In short, the current models don't work. Our everyday experience (and the experience of the mystics) reveals an uncomfortable truth: evil is real. There is a division in the world and in our own natures — a battle between two very real and independent forces. Call them what you will: wrath and love, Satan and God, the dark and the light. Even at the birth of Christianity this was understood. In our present state, evil may be the dominant force in the world at large.
Not everyone is the same. I've said it before here and I'll say it countless more times. Humans are not constructed like cookie-cutters. Here the rationalists were wrong. Not all men are rational animals. In today's meme culture this insight has taken on a life of its own with NPCs. The gnostics called them "hylics" (in contrast to "psychics" and "pneumatics"). Some people lack an inner psychic milieu (inner dialogue, the capacity to visualize, decent longterm memory, emotional depth). Rolo and I discuss some of the implications.
On top of that, some people are pure evil. One might say, demonic — another topic we broached.
Though mysteries remain. What exactly is the nature of evil? Is it merely biological? Spiritual? Both? Is it selfishness? If so, why is it so often self-destructive? And if evil is a real force in the universe, what is its ultimate origin? With any luck, after a few more conversations, I'm sure we'll be able to clear everything up. Shouldn't be too hard!
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A concept so well manufactured and used to manipulate one's mind.
Believe in it and be fearful, or don't believe and live a life free from such shackles and chains.
Many people have a tendency to deny the reality of evil. In the world, this may mean denying what our lying eyes plainly perceive. This may also extend to thinking of evil not as really evil, but merely as good in disguise — a type of optical illusion. Anyone who has come face to face with evil will have trouble buying that one.As in the days of Noah.
Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
This is how you get people to think evil, continually, to support the lies they believe.
I am not sure what is more rare among humanity today; the knowledge of right and wrong, or the ability/desire to see it in daily events.The sad thing is that we are essentially born with the knowledge of right and wrong. It's just that so many are able to get away with anything that people just choose to ignore their ethics and morals.
Ethics and moral standards are fostered to a receptive mind, right and wrong is an understanding of one's experiences and acknowledgement of how they fit within ones society.
Money is a means of conducting financial transactions, with the promise to pay the bearer, stated on UK paper money.
Happiness is an attainment, consists in being satisfied with your life.
Jean Michel I'd disagree.So you're saying that we are born into this world as a blank slate with absolutely no concept of good and evil?
Ethics and moral standards are fostered to a receptive mind, right and wrong is an understanding of one's experiences and acknowledgement of how they fit within ones society.
I would disagree with that. Do you believe in the soul?
Many people have a tendency to deny the reality of evil.And so they spin their wheels trying to understand human nature. One cannot understand man unless one understand the reality of evil.
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Mayday Mike "Make-believe" is a powerful tool in the arsenal of subjugation.Absolutely. And the reason for this is that human beings recognize and respond to events in terms of belief. We all orient ourselves by our beliefs about the world - it's the nature of human beings to do this. Those beliefs may or may not have anything to do with supernatural beings, but they do point to the existence of a rich inner reality that isn't dictated by the physical world. That fact bears thinking about. People are fooling themselves if they insist that an outer reality determines and forms their experience. The opposite is true. What you believe determines both what you see and what you come to understand about what you see.
Sure, the evil ones are often selfish, but so are all of the rest of us. I'd rather say that selflessness is truly rare and always has been. The concept of the Self necessitates looking out for #1.
Evil is not merely the lack of concern for #2 and onwards in the pursuit of serving #1 either. It is definitely a big part of evil, but it is not its core.
The core of Evil is more pointedly the lack of concern for other people (and animals for that matter) in the pursuit of serving the self, while "marketing" these actions as the Greater Good.
That is the core because the brute who breaks into someone's home and beats those who live there and take their stuff is certainly evil, but that brute knows what he's doing is wrong and does not paint it as a virtue for others to follow.
At the same time, some ideological zealot breaks into someone else's home and beats those who live there and take and break their stuff. But they have a holy conviction they are doing good, and that the more people who do the same, the better. There is no doubt, no dissuasion, no stopping and no upper limit to the "righteous violence". Their "inner self" is completely removed from these heinous acts, so they act with impunity.
So the essence of evil can't just be harmful actions or a lack of remorse or guilt in the individual. It needs to include a social aspect of it as well - it needs to take on a literal larger-than-life form. It must both be self-serving at the expense of others AND it needs to sow chaos, pain and suffering beyond the act itself.
Evil exists because without that experience, God becomes tyrannical, self-limiting, incorporating nothing and learning nothing new, which would make God bored if not evil.
Evil exists because of forgetfulness, memory and forgetfulness being first principles, or gods. Without memory, there is no evolution, no learning, nothing good can happen. Only stagnation or regression.
Evil exists because God has evil thoughts. Maybe they are fleeting thoughts.
Evil exists as a response to the first evil act, turtles all the way down, karma and an eye for an eye. If there were just that one mistake and nothing more, the illusion would have ended with one lesson.
Evil exists so that we learn nothing in the physical realm matters, thus really, there is no evil. This one is something to fall back to when things really do get too difficult to bear, and the one that's obviously not true. Because then, why would the physical realm exist if it didn't matter? But maybe it doesn't matter simply because it degenerates over time, whereas spirit doesn't unless it gets attached.
Evil is not actually evil, but exaggerates something good. Evil is too much good all at once.
Existence is a paradox to be reconciled, so evil exists as a force to perpetuate the paradox.
Evil exists because Morgoth and some balrogs and spiders were arrogant enough to play death metal. They chose not to reflect the right music back to Iluvatar. But didn't they spring from Iluvatar's mind anyway? Instead of identifying with mind, they identified with controlling Arda, extinguished light and lives before their time was due, and corrupted beings that already existed, considering that to be creation. Where does that impetus come from? Dissatisfaction, lack of faith.
So it's about hubris, like the Greeks said, control, like the Christian doctrine of possession, inability to embrace change, like the Stoics said, dissatisfaction with how things are, like Augustine insinuated, and because there is a crack in God's mind, which is how the light gets in, like Cohen recited.
But we always need some new explanation, because evil endures and forces everything to change. Or we'll need some more complex explanation if change occurs naturally.
So then I go back to the first possibility
Which could relate to Believing Lies, or a kind of willful ignorance to believe lies, due to temptations and wishful thinking?
"ill" and "lie" sound similar too, and like you say it's as if existence based on evil becomes unbearable and its an incentive to strive for something better and be rid of it.
From reading the work of others it's as if evil / Service to self or "love of self", is huge Lie, the inability to see truth and recognise "other" as "other self", or as another part of God, as another part of the Creation.
Evil only recognises itself as 'God', it sees 'other selves' as just other, or Separate. Like evil is a kind of separation of self from self, by willful ignorance, for some reason. It's as if the illusion of separation makes it much easier to hurt and commit crimes against others, as when we don't recognise others as part of ourselves, then there is literally no concept of other as self, no consciousness of it, no conscience. With so much hidden away from each other misunderstandings and bad judgements are so easy to fall into, in my mind it's so easy for me to make assumptions, act on them and justify it.
What you said about it led me to thinking about what I read in C's and Ra transcripts in terms of how it's affected us. . (not finished reading that yet..)
The environment of good as STO as Faith in God/Love of other /or Truth leads to Being, to good health, or becoming "What Is".
The environment of Bad or Evil, STS/ Love of Self or Lie, lack of faith, leads to non being, ill health and disease or becoming "What is not".
I know that's totally over simplified, as in there are many reasons we become ill, like those of us who are targeted by the ptb. . Just noticed that the general environment of evil is bad so for health in every way. Anyway Hope that made sense. I guess I'm also just trying to make sense as to why so many good people in my life have got sick. It also seams that some people do very well in this environment, but it's as if the mask is falling like others have mentioned here. I've really noticed this with people in personal life too. Thanks for your thoughts, the bit you put about memory is really interesting!
I now hope the book closes soon, actually. Very soon.
But I hope good people write a better one, one where all things are better integrated I suppose
If we take the earth as a system without human beings, would we say there is evil? All of the earth systems – oceans, atmosphere, animals, birds, fish, weather, etc – would vary with the solar system cycles, cosmic cycles, meteors hitting etc. Animals would eat each other and some species would go extinct due to these cycles. We would come to the conclusion, that existence on the planet is beautiful and dangerous to all life. In this world, is God beneficent? Does God protect the deer from being eaten by the cougar? Everything is eaten and is part of a system. The conclusion is that evil connects to human beings on this planet. Evil begins with man/woman, the creation of man/woman.
What separates man/woman from animals? He/she is god-like at one end of the spectrum. He/she can reason, he/she creates, he/she envisions, he/she composes music, art, literature, sculpture, he/she designs and builds cathedrals and bridges, he/she creates cars, planes, technology, and he/she can experience and attain higher states of consciousness, he/she can love and be compassionate. He/she at the other end of the spectrum are driven more by animal impulses to mate, eat, power over the pack, drink, take drugs for the bodily enjoyment, etc. The latter is a Darwinian or Territorial Imperative view of mankind, which also coincides with a globalist view, useless eaters with meaningless lives.
At the furthest end of this spectrum, are human beings in appearance, that are beyond purely animal, and I call that evil. They engage in child trafficking, child sexual abuse, child sacrifice, pedophilia, manipulation of others, genocidal, enjoyment of power over others, enjoyment of causing suffering for others, enjoyment in wars and destroying cities, women and children, desiring to modify the genetics of man and to make man controllable by technology, etc. These beings see themselves as the chosen of mankind, the perfection of mankind, and therefore the only ones that should exist and control the rest. They see themselves as gods. Evil then appears to be driven by certain aspects of man or this being that appears to be man.
In a materialist world view, everything happens by accident, there is no meaning, living or dying are not different, there is no higher realms or being, so enjoy the pleasure you can take even if it causes suffering or death to others; life is a mighty joke on everyone except those in power. If life can be extended by eating children or drinking children’s blood, then that is the path taken. If life can be extended through moving consciousness to an artificial intelligent body, then that is the path taken. This is both a nihilistic and psychopathic view of life. In this world view, family, love, Christ, God, are the enemy and must be rooted out of humanity. This materialist view leads to evil choices.
In a God centric world view, this being created everything through consciousness, through the Logos, through whatever we call thought for this being. This being created systems all connected, all interacting in balance. This being created mankind as different, as an image of itself, as possessing intelligence, love, awareness, consciousness. Mankind was intended as a witness of creation and a co-creator. Mankind was intended to grow in consciousness through experience. Some human beings attained a level of consciousness that connected to God, and we call these individuals mystics and Teachers, like Boehme, Christ and Buddha. I use the phrase “this being”, because God is not a being of flesh and blood as Michelangelo depicts in the Sistine Chapel. I think it was Meher Baba who said God was an ocean.
In Gurdjieff’s Fourth Way, there is a table of hydrogens that reflects this spectrum of consciousness, from world 96 up to world 6. This is the creation. Consciousness descends with evil and ascends with good, it descends in vibratory frequency and ascends with higher vibratory frequency. Higher vibratory frequency is love. From this view, to the extent that a man/woman is aware, develops will and love, and chooses higher vibrations they ascend toward the good. In this view, God is benevolent as the opportunity through many lifetimes is created for each consciousness to ascend to connection with God. Evil then is moving away from higher consciousness and connection to God.
One other point, I'd like to bring up. We live in a world of both good and evil, unfortunately today we spend most of our time thinking (based on lies), doing and speaking about evil things (lies), sometimes knowing and sometimes not knowing. Each day we spend less and less time thinking, talking and doing good.
While all this is going on about us, we'll have a conversation such as this here, talking about good and evil, which is good and healthy.
So my question or observation is this, why when someone does something good, we tell them that it is good, but when someone does something evil, the word is lost from the vocabulary?
One other point, I'd like to bring up. We live in a world of both good and evil, unfortunately today we spend most of our time thinking (based on lies), doing and speaking about evil things (lies), sometimes knowing and sometimes not knowing. Each day we spend less and less time thinking, talking and doing good.Why?
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Choice births evil.
What is important for each of us is to know our selves; what brings us up and what brings us down.
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For me, music is just that music. Something that resonates with the soul. Lyric music to me is different as it conveys a message - thought - idea, on top of the actual music which could in itself convey a completely different meaning to the listener. A really good melody can stand on it's own, without the lyrics.
In todays music (Blues, Swing, Country, Rock, Pop and sometime Hiphop), it's not what they are saying in the lyrics, that catches my attention first, it's the music first, then the lyrics. I guess that is why I do not like a lot of so called Pop Music today, simply because the actual music is shit. The focus today is on the lyrics and the singer, not the actual music. The focus is on the poets and the message of the leading poets (Pop Tarts & Rappers) is mostly garbage. I'm more apt to like a Pop or Rap song, not because of the lyrics, but the music. If the song has great lyrics, but shitty music, I won't listen to it. If the singer has a great voice, that too will catch my attention to the song, regardless of what they are saying, but their mastery of voice, will not hold my attention, like the actual music does.
The first time I heard this music was...[Link]
Given the visual and the story leading up to that moment was dark, this was the turning point from the dark to the light of the future. Like we struggle today.
Excalibur, when you watch it, it has a kind of goofiness' to it, but it is one of the best versions of the Author story and a big name cast, not so much then, but more recognizable today.
F or a start, I would think that 'evil' must have the elements of sheer unreasoning malice, complete viciousness and unrelenting hatred.
This excludes quite a lot of 'wrong' things that go on in the world, but allows us to focus on the extreme process of 'evil'.
Then what?
'evil' must have the elements of sheer unreasoning malice, complete viciousness and unrelenting hatred.Yes, but it often dresses itself up in a smiley face and initial kindness to set you up. It's not so easy to see through at first.
What though the field be lost?
All is not lost; the unconquerable Will,
And study of revenge, immortal hate,
And courage never to submit or yield:
And what is else not to be overcome?
That Glory never shall his wrath or might
Extort from me.
Paradise Lost ~ John Milton
Beware the Extent, Stubbornness, and Cunning of evil
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"...I’ll close this one out with a quote from one of my favorite writers, Arthur Versluis. The book is about seventeenth- and eighteenth-century Christian theosophy. The subject is the wrath of God. He writes:… even though it is our individual task to transform wrath into love, wrath has its place in the scheme of things; without it one could not be tested, nor could one transmute it into love through spiritual alchemy . … rather than striving to separate oneself from wrath, one embraces it, absorbs it, and transmutes it into love. For wrath and the wrath world has a necessary place in the cosmos, and this place is one of purification.
After all, each of us has sown discord, made mistakes, sinned. If we agree with the premise that divine mercy and divine wrath are in an ultimate sense one, the difference being in the perception of the individual soul, then perhaps we can see how to be tested and purified in the divine wrath is, finally, to be invested with the robe of glory and peace . The theosophers sometimes express this as passing the flaming sword back into paradise … ( Wisdom’s Children , pp. 204-205) " [Link]
All too often I see the face of wrath on these pages, wondering if those who claim to seek justice are merely blind in the kingdom of the one eyed man. As Ghandi stated, "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind." Perhaps those who employ wrath in the name of justice are on their way to love. Thank you. Been searching for days for a way to express the perplexity of the wrath I see poured over these pages on SOTT at times.
Had some recent experiences with people/wrath funnily enough, thought it might be relevant in a roundabout way to share some personal experiences hope you don't mind and no pressure to reply etc . .
Okay here goes. As background, my other halfs family, (he knows I'm posting this just to say), are the most negative bunch of people I've ever met, except a couple of them, he agrees lol.
He has a very kind heart, is a good man and has been attacked by them pretty much all his life. . They have very little respect or response when people try to put them right.
Anyway I'd love to help his son who had been put through the mill also, so we invited him out to live in the in the area we just moved to, he can find a room to rent first, and be nearer us away from negative people. He came up stay at our new place, was really nice for him to stay for a week and his mood improved also. He was actually happy for once which was great, but basically he's decided he likes it ...
Problem is the spare bit for people to stay is also the work space I've got, (it's a beautiful place, but tiny). He and his dad thought it was an option for him to just stay here whilst he's looking for a room to rent, which wasn't the deal and there's no way i can do any proper work like that.
It was like, "Oh, he'll just stay with us for a couple of weeks till he finds a place to rent "
It was no to that, and it caused a massive argument. It's as if wherever I go, something tries to invade . Had it all my life..so I just lost it, was surprised by my reaction, it's down to me also to draw boundaries I guess.. Maybe it's because its been happening for so long in my life that something just snapped.
People have said that to me before also, when me and others have let them stay, that say they will only stay for short term, then it turns into a long time instead.
Because it's just easier for them I guess, or it seams to be human nature on the whole to do that, you give an inch they take more.. As in its not meant too personally regarding his son. I've noticed this loads with folks through difficult life experience, and friends who've had similar experience with people sofa surfing etc.
Anyways I went crazy, as in not violent just very very pissed off or wrathful, it was unexpected. My partner has just been through a lot health wise but I had to draw a line or I'll be no good for anything, him and son included. His son is very welcome to stay for a week and it makes me happy to see him relaxed, but not more than around a week lol. I Love my partner very much but need to draw boundaries.. It was also about a lesson, realising my own weaknesses, to understand why my reaction was so negative. Realised I'm really crap when I don't get some time away from people and their emotions possibly, find it exhausting, having little personal space. And can't do creative work like that, it just drains me and it is what it is, because I've been there too many times. I'd just become unbearable for everyone and his son would suffer also. I've realised that self care isn't necessarily self service when it comes to listening to our intrinsic needs necessary for well being, and (if possible) responding to them. Hopefully in a more positive way in future. Can only be of service to others, help his son and be there for him and others when I'm happier, I've tried to explain this in a calmer way and we've reached a better understanding now.. I understand that for my partner to be happier his son must be too, but it's so hard to get the balance...getting there..
I'm trying to discern by analysing personal experiences, and wondering in a general sense about when, why and 'If' wrath could appear for a 'good' reason.
Can wrath appear when there are feelings of violation or transgression against us, can it act as a kind of a natural self defence when we are threatened in some way.
Eg to stop a certain action, or take action when we perceive our life or the lives of our loved ones are under immediate threat? Does this feeling somehow give me courage or help me be less fearful in extreme situations when I need to defend myself or others, to provide with momentary impotus - as keeping the head clear in a fight is good idea too.
I've experienced it when feeling invaded in some way.. Or maybe when there is a real need to change, like there is something deep within ourselves that needs to be addressed, and we are not paying enough attention, as if in some cases it's a desperate emotion for change. Maybe in this case it's my fault for not listening to gut feelings, maybe more honesty with myself was needed, it was my own carelessness and I needed to take action/make plans to apprehend something in a more efficient way, seams it's also a lesson. . I dunno but was definitely surprised by it, attempting to understand it now, and maybe there is another aspect to it aside from revenge alone. I also noticed wrath in a situation where someone was actually a threat to my loved one, their behaviour was causing harm in a very immediate way, I went mental that time too. This beast voice came out nothing physical, but it was really unpleasant, haven't been put in that position before and it was totally just about protecting my dear one, revenge wasn't a part of it, all happened so fast anyway! It seemed like more of an instinctive protective reaction.
Also was thinking about the effects of blockages that hinder us all in doing creative work, how it can effect everyone in such a negative way, and having the opportunity to do creative work with the higher centres whatever it may be, is not only taking care of the soul but also serving others.. As I understand it when our creative centres are blocked, eg by the constraints of life, this can be released in a chaotic/destructive way into the environment..Onto others! Thanks for your post on this and for listening Parzival.
And we need to be kinder to each other
"...From reading the work of others it's as if evil / Service to self or "love of self", is huge Lie, the inability to see truth and recognise "other" as "other self", or as another part of God, as another part of the Creation..."
What is an idol? Do you think you know? For idols are unrecognized as such, and never seen for what they really are. That is the only power that they have. Their purpose is obscure, and they are feared and worshipped, both, because you do not know what they are for, and why they have been made. An idol is an image of your brother that you would value more than what he is. Idols are made that he may be replaced, no matter what their form. And it is this that never is perceived and recognized. Be it a body or a thing, a place, a situation or a circumstance, an object owned or wanted, or a right demanded or achieved, it is the same.
Let not their form deceive you. Idols are but substitutes for your reality. In some way, you believe they will complete your little self, for safety in a world perceived as dangerous, with forces massed against your confidence and peace of mind. They have the power to supply your lacks, and add the value that you do not have. No one believes in idols who has not enslaved himself to littleness and loss. And thus must seek beyond his little self for strength to raise his head, and stand apart from all the misery the world reflects. This is the penalty for looking not within for certainty and quiet calm that liberates you from the world, and lets you stand apart, in quiet and in peace.
When you are angry, is it not because someone has failed to fill the function you allotted him? And does not this become the "reason" your attack is justified? Do you believe that truth can be but some illusions? They are dreams because they are not true. You cannot dream some dreams and wake from some, for you are either sleeping or awake. In simplest form, it can be said attack is a response to function unfulfilled as you perceive the function. It can be in you or someone else, but where it is perceived it will be there it is attacked. Depression or assault must be the theme of every dream, for they are made of fear.
How happy would your dreams become if you were not the one who gave the "proper" role to every figure which the dream contains. No one can fail but your idea of him, and there is no betrayal but of this. Perceptions are determined by their purpose, in that they seem to be what they are for. A shadow figure who attacks becomes a brother giving you a chance to help, if this becomes the function of the dream. And dreams of sadness thus are turned to joy.
How long do you have left with your husband and son in this form and to share in their happiness, do you know?
What is your brother for? You do not know, because your function is obscure to you. Do not ascribe a role to him that you imagine would bring happiness to you. And do not try to hurt him when he fails to take the part that you assigned to him, in what you dream your life was meant to be. He asks for help in every dream he has, and you have help to give him if you see the function of the dream as He (God) perceives its function, Who can utilize all dreams as means to serve the function given Him. Because He loves the dreamer, not the dream, each dream becomes an offering of love. For at its center is His Love for you, which lights whatever form it takes with love.
-ACIM Chapter 29 VII. Seek Not Outside Yourself [Link]
It's a brilliant piece of writing from parzival and ditto that link to A Course in Miracles! Don't look to others for your own contentment. It's the way of the monk, and best for one's peace of mind and health.
However, I would add, or contradict myself, that you and your family made a decision to do just the opposite, the same for most people living in normal society. You have obligations to one another, whereas a monk has obligations, I suppose, more to himself and the future. We must assist each other in the real world now. The sly way of Gurdjieff would help better in this instance. Find compromise, or convince them your way is better without overwhelming them. God needs the divine "other" to learn and improve.
My two pennies. How to interpret your own emotions is up to you. There doesn't seem to be a wrong answer. That may be what perturbed LindaMay , but it is nonetheless on topic. The only problem with providing a concrete example is that it proves more interesting than the theory.
Hate to butt in, interesting discussion.
In my view, anger is the result of our feeling that we are being de-valued; our identity is not being respected by those we feel should respect our value and identity. It connects strongly to a feeling of being treated unjustly; that our family or friends are not feeling us, not considering us. By recognizing the reaction, you separate yourself from the reaction and can then be more even in your response.
In my view, having a room where you can work, meditate, reflect is important to stand for. It gives you a sense of your self as being an individual being.
But its really important i learned, from these experiences, for everyone who has this predisposition to be able to lead the kind of life where we are free to do these things without worrying about how to eat the next day, without being under constant attack in whichever way! As the blockage of these centres when by constraints of life, including when we let others transgress, there's no opportunity to cultivate them, the higher self... This Causes/ed destruction without, and within. Which affects everyone, this has been my life experience. Truly I believe that by helping ourselves in this way (for those who are like this) that we are help others too, and when we work in this way the Universe gives up a helping hand.. Obvs could be wrong but this is what I've learned from bitter experience. I'm a simple person admitted, im not well studied or very good at writing. Also admit it was harsh to call you thick as i don't know you. As always all we have are the words on the screen, really though, don't think it's a big deal to share and connect via our experiences, of eveee- iiiiill, and it would be nice in my ideal dream world if people could do this.
Ya can't handle the truth about yourself, which is that you can behave like an egoist who poses to be the opposite, thinks you have the right to tell people what to do, and how to express themselves, hiding behind all this pseudo spiritual crap. Not the first time you have attacked me and started making a nuisance. I know you liked one of my posts and thanks, but then this lol. I wonder who is really projecting, and who's side you are on? I'm all for being kind, but not when people abuse me, I'll not back down when i can see you are a negative influence. Here is probably one of the only places people can have good discussions about this stuff. You block it with this negative and simplistic attitude, it's pretty obvious.
And it it does actually matter as networking is what really helps, and no one is perfect i get that. But people need to be free to learn and share ideally, without spiteful comments like yours. It's people like you who mess it up. It's obvious who's side you are on. You've just shown it, thanks!
Behave like an adult, or not.
The Net and Amazon overflow with self-help material.
And no... I did not bother with your senti-mental-ity aka emotional vomit this time around nor will I any further.
Get a GRIP
DH felt he was given the role of Secretary General from a higher level. In many ways, he reminds me of Lincoln who also felt isolated and not understood in his work, and through Will moved forward.
Quote: "Thus the living God relationship is a precondition for the self-knowledge which enables us to follow a straight path and, in that sense, triumph and be forgiven -- from outside ourselves and by ourselves."
Comment: See also: Evil is Real: What do J.P. Sears and UN Secretary General Dag Hammarskjöld have in common?