Frantic calls from responding officers came in around 4:30 p.m., according to audio obtained via Broadcastify.
"Officer calls for everything you got. SWAT, long gun," a law enforcement officer can be heard saying on the audio. "I got an officer shot."
SkyForce10 remains over the scene as an unidentified gunman continues to fire at dozens of police officers nearly 30 minutes after officers descended on the corner of 15th and Butler streets.
Officials said at least four officers were shot and taken to the hospital. They have not yet revealed their conditions.
Reader Comments
If I am not mistaken, it's an American variation of Enlish one: If cap fits, wear it.
I'm surprised that you didn't provide info below re 5.56. For example, the level of ballistic awareness, firearms here is way below many other sites; e.g., although I've nefer posted there, I'd NEVER post my below points on, say, AR15 dot com, as I'm not confident in all the points I made and would hate to be made a fool.
(Too late, I guess. )
Whatever.
Have a good weekend!
R.C.
1- No immediate witness reports of multiple shooters
2- Four cops shot
3- Suspect taken into custody alive (WTF!? In the US!? Wow)
4- No headlines blaring "muslim terrorist" or "Suspect shouted "Allahu Akhbar!" while shooting at police"
5- No "manifesto" or live-streaming
6- No reports of civilian casualties/deaths
Seems this guy only wanted to shoot cops. More understandable than someone wanting to shoot random civilians, considering this:
SOTT Focus:Who Inflicts The Most Gun Violence in America? The U.S. Government And Its Police Forces
"It is often the case that police shootings, incidents where law enforcement officers pull the trigger on civilians, are left out of the conversation on gun violence. But a police officer shooting...And apparently he was live-streaming but we don't know the platform. (huh?) Damage control?
(Points towards conspiracy/FF.)
Timing
One thing that makes it strange is he was good enought to hit 6 cops and ALL were released? If he had an AR-15 in .223/5.56, there's NO WAY six could get hit and released.
A possibility, all shooting was 'aiming to wound' and though holding an apparent AR-15 (as facts may well turn but with an easily acquired conversion to .22 calibre . Perhaps even an air rifel.
As the 'news' roles in. . . we'll get more facts? Ha! We'll get more lies.
R.C.
That "6 hit, discharged within hours" is as fishy as a bucket of week-old prawns, isn't it?
*not Martin Bryant. I have read a quote from the man who trains Australia's special forces in counter-terrorism techniques, who said "I train soldiers in the techniques used, and I couldn't have done it. Whoever did is better than me, and that's only a handful of people around the world." (Not an exact quote, but the exact gist.)
That shooter killed the first 19 people with single shots from the hip with an assault rifle (forgot which model). And the witness description was way off (dark greasy long hair and pockmarked acne-scarred face, MB was pale wispy blonde, milk-white smooth face)
22'S - when we call them that are, in order of creation (by memory of late 19th 20th century firearms was the 22 .. heck; here's the whole history. Nowadays there are three mass manufactured rounds: 22 short; 22 long; and what WE USUALLY mean when we say a .22 is a gun that can fire ANY of those.
Great info/details here. [Link]
The introduction of smokeless powder around 1900? helped keep rifles cleaner and the excess that was wasted in smoke was turned into energy. (Look at the FPS changes in the pre smokeless(black powder) era and the same rounds post 'smokeless' powder fps.
What matters most is the ENERGY RETAINED / terminal impact energy . (See ballistics.)[Link]
The 22lr goes just above supersonic - 800 fps? The barrel on a 22lr is, effectively the same diameter as on a .223 (which = 5.56mm).
22lr rounds have smaller bullets and they go slower.
The impact energies are HUGELY different to the calculation of ft.lbs. of energy / "knockdown power". This link best answers all your questions ( says this: One of my best friend is a Marine who volunteered for three straight combat tours in Vietnam and was there for the M-16's powder debacle which cost a lot of US servicement their lives - and all over a stupid corporate money drama about who gets to rip off THE U.S. the most! (He's about 9-10 years older than me. I'd heard
I'd read and heard it before, but he made clearr he'd rather get hit by an AK47's relatively short cartrige 7.62 X 39 MM long than an M-16's due to the (intended 'tumbling' of that round, which would result, as you've probably heard similar things: An AKA47 RIB might break through your rib, get your lung and out. Meanwhile, an M-16 round might just as well break that rib but being lighter, bounce off of it zip up to your collarbone and through and out the other side of your neck.
Etc.
This stuff is all super easy to find online.
R.C.
R.C.
Also, a lighter bullet will be far more likely to bounce off bone and zip somewhere else in the body. Hitting a leaf makes it more likely to tumble.
You may recall how all of our US SWAT teams and Cops et al. Bought 4 billion rounds of rather expensive top of the line hollow points and (even worse) frangible (break into six little metal pieces in your body.) rounds for all the cops' 9mm & 40 cal, et al. for their Baretta FS-92S, M4s and M16s (latter two, which by the way, are usually capable of fully auto or 'burst' (3-4 rounds per trigger pull.) The US CANNOT USE THESE ROUNDS FOR INTERNATIONAL WARS/ "Police Actions" like Korea, Vietnam and Iraq invasions. There they use full metal jacket rounds. (FMJ)
But for shooting Americans they now have enough and hollow-points (expanding bullets in all the standard NATO cartridge sizes, but they can (and will) only use them against Americans. (That's enough to shoot every Anerican over eleven hundred! times!) (And they shouldn't be for target practice as target rounds are usually half the price of of HPs.)
But only 'conspiracy theorists speak of these PROVEN facts.
R.C.
in addition to what RC said....
My piece- 22 is way cheaper to shoot. Yes you can convert the 223 to a 22. It is cheap and cost effective to practice with. the 22 you can buy 500 round box for 20-30 dollars. For 20-30 Dollars you can get about 40 223 rounds. If you wanted to practice tactical maneuvers and working on skillz the 22 is way cheaper. You can shoot 22 all day long for less dent in your wallet.