This week on Mindmatters we get to discuss these issues with Joe Allen, author of the Substack blog Singularity Weekly. After extensive research into this and related subject matter, Joe's nuanced analysis tells us that yes, we need to be paying serious attention to where all this has brought us, and where things are very likely going. Given how powerful and even seductive the use of these technologies are, he also suggests what may be the healthiest attitude or approach to interacting with them going forward. As if the world hasn't devolved into enough insanity there is, in fact, a new pathologizing influence to contend with. And we, 'legacy humans', ignore its profound influences at our own peril.
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At a time people really need to focus on family, friends (real people) and preparing for that little thing called survival.....out rolls the "fakeness" again.
I don't really gain anything from this "we give you the talking point....now discuss" it's the timing for me. You can set your watch by it is becoming so predictable but the intent is now showing.
Who gives a shit about this really? Is this important?
Staying online is a waste of valuable time, maybe Im wrong to say it or Im a shill or CIA or whatever....but time for debating "their" new toy is pointless, my soul is hanging around somewhere it is not really needed nor wanted.
Joan has her opinions, she has attacked mine a few times, I couldn't care really, all this online stuff is becoming petty and creapy in equal measure.
Time to move on me thinks.
We have seen demonstrations of AI challenges with chess masters, and the Asian game, apologies, the name escapes me at this time, it is a game of strategy, that some say originated millennial years ago, nd were taught to Emperors, using black and white game markers.
This interesting video from Dean Radin
Dean Radin - All Reality Consists of What Things?
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This made me think about, another thought, the physics of the mind, but I guess that is a minefield, I do not have the knowledge to continue.
This also made me think about the human mind and Psi phenomena, in humanity, the connection, a kind of social technology in the minds of humanity...Telepathy, Rupert Scheldrake has also touched upon this.
So my thought is, is this ChatGPT nothing more, than to create the AI, of a human experience, that has existed for millennia, upon millennia, through networking, on a human level.
They have data sourced all the social media platforms for decades, and now they have algorithms. That supposedly can predict human thoughts and behaviors. The events of the past 3 years should give one pause for thought.
All wrapped in a nicely package ribbon of AI created memes, for a brave new world.
see you later or maybe not
So could be what you think is frivolous, the AI considers information, and it could be you don't get to judge whether I'm a distraction or not, but if I am to you, then my advice is to just ignore my posts Joan - ain't nothing complicated about that just like there are 50 ways to leave your lover.
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With that said, the effort to learn any game sharpens the mind and a mind sharp is a tool precise. Sometimes a precise tool is what we need nowadays is what I think. Precise and well engineered - sort of like the rotary phones of yesteryear. So now, respect due, I'll listen to this presentation and stop worrying about comments and such.....I'll listen and then share any thoughts if I have anything of value to share or at least think I do assuming you don't think I'm a distraction Joan , but if you do just talking to you, then please ignore my ass. I don't think I am, but if you think I am, then that is your opinion and you got a right to that I reckon....still one wonders why you would think that....but no matter - right Joan - no matter. Right?
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This from Wikki, I suspect the narrative could have been adapted.
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In the dystopian future, sexual intercourse and reproduction are prohibited, whereas use of mind-altering drugs is mandatory to enforce compliance among the citizens and to ensure their ability to conduct dangerous and demanding tasks. Emotions and the concept of family are taboo. Workers are clad in identical white uniforms and have shaven heads to emphasize uniformity, likewise with police androids who wear black and monks who are robed. Instead of names, people have designations with three arbitrary letters (referred to as the "prefix") and four digits, shown on an identity badge worn at all times.
The usual BS ideology, in a dystopian future, All black and white.
AI - might play these sort of games well, but I challenge AI to beat me in a contest of splitting wood.
So, AI, can do the math, but AI ain't got the whole package and the whole package is where the value resides....not the AI.
AI - by definition is artificial - it is imaginary...in the minds of maybe just a few smart cookies, but can they split wood?
I doubt it.
My understand, it is a concept, not written in stone, as a reality, it was a game, a method of teaching using the mind
With Respect,
Ken
While I go where you ask me to go, I'll be thinking to myself - that Joan she ? sure seems full of attitude....and she wanted to send me off to the range....and then I'll think, well, she will get what she wants I reckon.
I'll think further, like I was trying to talk with her, but maybe I pushed a nerve?
I don't get it, but whatever - she will get what she deserves.
Then I'll be like - she says the "real" discussion as if she is the arbiter of it all - oh yeah....that explains it I'll think and then I'll forget her.
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thanks Joan for nothing
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So how about you go back to the range. I may be a distraction and I may not be, but I don't presume to call anybody out as such, and I am a snake and I'll wrap around you tight. Metaphorically of course Joan or maybe just a distraction in your mind.
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I think you are incorrect. I think I have something to contribute. If you don't think so that is your choice, but don't call me a distraction please.
truth and reality.
“Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad”
Years ago when I began researching Neuro Linguistic programming as a way we are manipulated, I discovered that NLP in Google would not return that information, but instead returned Natural Language Processing, which is how computers learn to process human speech. Here is a simple youtube video about it. [Link]
10 Ways to Protect Yourself From NLP Mind Control
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It has changed so much from the NLP. Over the years, a plethora of pages have emerged, all with new information, IMO, it is because the methods, have become more sophisticated, devious, and possibly, in a court of law, could be considered criminal
All traces, using digital technology, have been used, to destroy, any true information.
BTW, the initial bookmark, was a discussion, concerning Kevin Barrett, 911, and the interview with a MSM network The use of NLP, dialogue and hand gestures, to discredit, and derail the interview. and information regarding psycho, social verbal cues, to alert the individual,that some form of manipulation, could be in play.
The link/page posted above, is a shell of the information provided. And could be considered disinformation, in another reality.
At the time I was researching NLP and google responded with Natural Language Processing, my first thought was that google had overlaid neuro linguistic programming as a way of obscuring it. With this discussion on Mindmatters, I question if Natural Language Processing is teaching AI to mimic human conversation and use neuro linguistic programming techniques to manipulate.
My view of 'distractions' is that they should only be done by those 'specialists' who are really good at it.
This is so everyone is distracted by the same thing at the same time and all go the same way.
This is how the major global issues that plague humanity are resolved.
The planet is saved.
(sarcasm)
ned,
out
Henry Kissinger, Bill Clinton, Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, Barrack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden. No arrest warrants have been issued by the ICC in The Hague, Netherlands for any of them. Why? by The Good Citizen [Link]
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"As the Empire of Lies celebrates the International Criminal Court issuing an arrest warrant for Vladimir Putin, let’s revisit who the ICC really works for..."
A tweet by a queer with a massive forehead was the "big debate"
I then tried to post a template showing how online groups can effectively steer, remove or cause doubt at will using purely "psychological" techniques used during the Obama presidential campaign (and empower individuals)...... couldnt even get it to stay in the comment box (or ANY links to it)
the site chooses when I can reply directly below a poster, when I can include smileys....how many attempts I have to make loging in...
Something doesnt add up does it
Artificial intelligence is artificial. It can mimic, it can follow statistical methods of decision making based on criteria that is programmed, it has vast resources to tap and using google like algorithms can search it in seconds, and it can use language processing to write or speak an answer in any form suggested. The narrative is consciousness can be contained in electronic circuits. The narrative is expressed in many science fiction movies and television shows, like Agents of Shield, Battlestar Galactica, AI, Captain America, and Irobot. The Sophia AI robot in Saudi Arabia is a “citizen”. The narrative is saying transhumanist enhancement is better than human.
Who buys the narrative? I have noted before that the globalist agenda has been ongoing for more than 60 years, and it has used a generational “totalitarian tiptoe” process. The youngest generations who are addicted to video and computer games like Fortnite and Roblox, which includes enhancing your virtual abilities through addons, will be much more amenable to accepting transhumanism than those over 60 who used a slide rule to calculate signs and cosigns and actually studied calculus. Then there is the generation of Alexa and Siri the Amazon and Apple “helpers” who have been used to find information with simply your voice. Gee, I wonder if Alexa and Siri were gathering conversational information for chatgpt?
What has been the impact of technology? Human beings don’t develop basic skills like reading, mathematics, thinking, evaluating, making connections, questioning what is beyond this reality. The end result is human beings are becoming more stupid. If the electric grid went down, think about what you would do to survive. What skills do you have? Where do you live? What is possible? Where to get fuel, water, food, medicine?
What is the objective of the AI drive? It is to make people subservient to computer algorithms and control. This is done through “convenience” and “little effort” and “compliance” and “law”. How do you make people compliant? Eliminate culture, religion, family, history, art, music.
One of the important thoughts Joe mentioned is “scale”. How can you scale up AI for billions of people? Do you need less people for it to be doable, maybe genocide? Can a vaccine be used to introduce self-assembling graphene quantum dots to create the transhumanist interface?
The psychopaths may want to mimic the human brain and make themselves immortal, but it is a fantasy. However, their research into implants and frequencies for controlling human behavior has been ongoing for decades.
As if the world hasn't devolved into enough insanity there is, in fact, a new pathologizing influence to contend with. And we, 'legacy humans', ignore its profound influences at our own peril.Profound influences? Perhaps for the weak minded,easily swayed people with no critical thinking skills....which, yes, is probably most of the human race....in my best Spock voice..."Its just software, Jim". Garbage in, garbage out. The day I went to the ChatGPT website, it took me less than an hour to get bored with it. Haven't been back. If Chat and Alexa had a baby, it would probably sound like Billy Bob Thornton in 'Sling Blade'....or maybe Forest Gump
Obviously, there are those who know nothing of life without it's influence, to them, i'd assume it's growth and impact are apt to be accepted as natural events in the evolvement of (digital) intelligence - the deeper the reliance, more readily it received, the easier their own transformation.
on saying that, i'm continually amazed to witness those who I'd consider to be more distant from it's influence, just today....on a bench, sat a middle aged couple, blessed with terrific vista, heads bent in worship to their glassy faced toys.
The psychopaths, in my view, want to genocide the population, move the remainder into Smart 15 minute cities where complete surveillance and monitoring and control is maintained, and transhumanize and genetically modify the rest to be "model" citizens who obey and serve. To accomplish that they have tried to socially engineer the people into fearing the "virus", "chaos" and "death" so they could be herded into the smart cities for their "safety". They want to make the "smart" cities attractive, and this is done through "convenience", "effortless" life through remotes and voice activation (and soon brain implants), and providing any information you want (but with their Frame).
To accomplish the social engineering, they have used many strategies including fluoride, other food additives, drugs, behavioral modification, indoctrination through education, brain stimulation, neuro linguistic programming, etc. They have been actively mapping the brain and doing studies to manipulate mood and behavior for decades, for example the Human Connectome Project that is discussed in the mockingbird media Scientific American.[Link]
Not worth my time energy or focus. Even if a respectful discussion, not going to change my mind whatso ever.