MindMatters: Industrialized Rome and Wrong 'un Politicians - with Helen Dale

Harrison Koehli and Elan Martin
Sott.net
Sun, 19 Feb 2023 00:00 UTC

Helen Dale, lawyer and award-winning author of 3 novels, including The Hand that Signed the Paper, writes at Law & Liberty and Not On Your Team, But Always Fair. Her two-novel series Kingdom of the Wicked is an alternative history of Roman-occupied Judea in the first century and the arrest and trial of Yeshua ben Yusuf, an enigmatic man with a large following, including some radical religious zealots. If you like literary and genre fiction — and Roman history — you won't be able to put these ones down. They've got soldiers, lawyers, terrorists, and biomechs; action, romance, legal proceedings, and great characters.

Today on MindMatters we talk about the books and how Helen came to write them, blending Roman morality with modern technology, and the interesting directions that might have gone. Other topics: political systems and their compatibility with different nations and cultures, Lorenzo Warby's articles on Helen's Substack, a policy approach to countering Woke ideology, Cluster B's and ponerology in modern and historical politics, what Hannah Arendt got wrong about totalitarianism, and how lobbyists are the absolute worst.

Running Time: 01:47:15

Download: MP3 — 149 MB

Harrison Koehli

Harrison Koehli co-hosts SOTT Radio Network's MindMatters, and is an editor for Red Pill Press. He has been interviewed on several North American radio shows about his writings on the study of ponerology. In addition to music and books, Harrison enjoys tobacco and bacon (often at the same time) and dislikes cell phones, vegetables, and fascists (commies too).

Elan Martin

Born and raised in New York City, Elan has been an editor for SOTT.net since 2014 and is a co-host for MindMatters. He enjoys seeing and sharing what's true about our profoundly and rapidly changing world.

Reader Comments

VooDoo6 · 2023-02-20T18:45:42Z

Interesting article that posits the re-occurring theme & notion that we are just living in another time & space to what has already happened on the world’s continual psychodrama stage in the past. The connections are profoundly true in many events, just the technology & words/definitions used are changed. Most people would never read it unfortunately.

Lol - Roman morality & most importantly ruling Roman mentality has been ‘Colonizing’ people human beings as chattel long before the UK copied it. For those that study linguistics you will notice a very close beyond a sychonistic symbiotic relationship between vassal & vessel.😜

Signs & Symbols rule the world. Secrecy dominates this world, and foremost as the secret of domination.

scrutinizer · 2023-02-20T21:29:26Z

VooDoo6 The west's fascination with their origins: Rome, egypt, sumerians (they weren't first) - it grows tiresome.

Tunnel vision of a lame (in all senses of the word) philosophy that clearly hasn't worked, and it's never been so clear as right about say... Now-ish.

And all the good stuff (for instance Plato's declaration that only philosophers should be allowed leadership) was "borrowed" from India.

VooDoo6 · 2023-02-20T21:42:35Z

scrutinizer,

VooDoo6 The west's fascination with their origins: Rome, egypt, sumerians (they weren't first) - it grows tiresome.

Tunnel vision of a lame (in all senses of the word) philosophy that clearly hasn't worked, and it's never been so clear as right about say... Now-ish.

And all the good stuff (for instance Plato's declaration that only philosophers should be allowed leadership) was "borrowed" from India.

Spot on. Yes their post haste actions of power, greed, control completely exposes them. Good stuff & true.

Dwoods44 · 2023-02-21T02:50:55Z

Helen's quote is right on, at about 1:25:00 "the lunatics are running the asylum".

parzival · 2023-02-21T06:34:01Z

God helps us, God help Europe - The lunatics are taking over the Asylum...

"Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas : NATO countries must take control of #Moscow and rewrite the mentality of Russian citizens so that the Russians will never be a threat again."

IncenDiary · 2023-02-21T07:35:43Z

parzival I think they've been there a long time; but now feel capable of openly doing and speaking what they have been hiding for so long.... "rewriting the mentality" is pure psychopathy and control, desirous of a slave class who constantly does your bidding... wow.

parzival ·

IncenDiary

· 2023-02-21T07:45:37Z

Joyly · 2023-02-21T08:57:49Z

parzival I think Europe needs to learn to help itself first. (Instead of blindly doing the US bidding). Then God will help, not before.

parzival ·

Joyly Indeed Joyly!

· 2023-02-21T09:05:33Z

rakarb · 2023-02-21T22:18:41Z

pz; imo lunatics have allways been running the show(?) [Link]
why not just burn the ppl we don’t like?

i am an infidel

rakarb · 2023-02-21T22:57:12Z

bread and MUSIC/(love) to the ppl! ☺️

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rakarb · 2023-02-21T23:22:16Z

(hmm, a personal take on the better known quote; «bread and circus» etc)

parzival · 2023-02-22T07:18:01Z

Black Hand – A Match Made in Hell How the satanic-themed sex parties of Horace Dibben helped collapse the British government. BYJOHNNY VEDMORE FEBRUARY 20, 2023 [Link]

Buffalo_Ken · 2023-02-22T14:51:38Z

Dang, I thought I was logged off for the day, but then I listened to the beginning of this (I'll try to listen to the rest.....

BUT

"Setting the Stage" is tricky business....

lately, my preference has been just to focus on my peppa ambitions, but that is just me.....being how much I care for the philosophy shared here, I will make an effort to listen, but "setting stages" ~~is often~~ ..... oh, scratch that.....for myself, I'm tired of stages being set in a way, and personally I'm trying not to do that anymore cause I figure: Let the stage set itself.

With appreciation,

BK

Buffalo_Ken · 2023-02-23T14:21:33Z

Buffalo_Ken - Hells-bells. I thought that might get a response, but I thought wrong.

Fine....I'll listen to the rest and then depending on how the "Stage was Set".....well depending on that, I'll decide what to do next.

Truly, I think - Let the Stage set itself .

You do yourself no favors hyping things up early on.....but if the content has merit, that is forgotten....if not, it is telling.

BK

Joan · 2023-02-24T02:13:45Z

I found this discussion fascinating and interesting, but for a dose of reality, I found this discussion with Reamer Fulmich even more interesting.

Oligarchs own the system, one wonders, has this been in production for decades, if not millennia?

The individual interviewed from his wikki profile. Potential candidate for the next Romanian elections, one wonders, how successful he will be.

[Link]
Călin Georgescu He dissociated himself from the UN

[Link] Oligarchs own the U.N.

So is the world as we know it, as he says himself later in the interview, nothing more than a matrix. He also gives interesting geopolitical insights, regarding world conquests for those interested, also spiritual insights, from his life after he has divorced himself, as he says from the matrix. a very interesting and uplifting interview.

Dwoods44 · 2023-02-24T15:07:28Z

Joan Thanks for the link to Feullmich.

By the way, since I've been to Egypt twice and researched some of the writings, what significance does the ankh have for you?

danny esq · 2023-02-24T05:57:19Z

Kaja Kallas has had brow ridge reduction surgery, nasal bone reduction surgery and has the paper thin horizontal scar showing trachea cartledge shave/reduction surgery.

It's another fairly convincing male to female transgender. The facial skin close up is typical of males taking estrogen.

They are everywhere......

Joan · 2023-02-24T06:20:15Z

danny esq Really! So you have nothing to say, other than a personal attack upon a person, you do not personally know, or have even read/heard about before this podcast.

Shame on you for your ignorance. I am reminded of this phrase that has been running in my head lately,

Lord forgive them, for they know not what they say....Interpretation, blind ignorance.

LindaMay · 2023-02-24T13:51:45Z

danny esq I had an instant wierdness...

danny esq · 2023-02-24T12:11:44Z

Hey Joan, your guilty of the very thing you accuse me and others of, incase you missed your own hypocricy and the irony of your statement. Your also not very well versed on biblical context either, your not to judge your brother (kith kin) but you have to make concerted efforts to judge on moral standards....you know....less your "decieved".

I can and will (within my God given rights) to judge a man wearing womens clothes....God refers to them as an "abomination" just incase you believe they should all slip through and decieve our children I would challenge your inability to accept (let alone put into practise) such a standard of warning given by my Father.

Cheer up

balboa schwartz · 2023-02-25T01:22:42Z

Slightly off-topic, considering the above discussion [Link]

TBoris ·

balboa schwartz

· 2023-02-25T14:22:38Z

VooDoo6 ·

balboa schwartz

· 2023-02-25T14:34:54Z

TBoris · 2023-02-25T14:42:17Z

Great episode. Helen Dale's depiction of Rome (industrialized) reminds me of technocracy/eugenics [Link] that is the form of government (led by stake holder oligarchs) that we find ourselves in today. Also thought that the idea of tribal rule being routed out by not allowing inbreeding was germane. Does not contradict (in my mind) though with tribal zionist psychopaths claiming that their tribal genes are better (the eugenics). Also the concept of getting to the top of the greasy pole by being nasty was presented very well with the tie in to Cluster B-hive with Joshua Slocum.

VooDoo6 · 2023-02-25T16:02:29Z

TBoris,

Great episode. Helen Dale's depiction of Rome (industrialized) reminds me of technocracy/eugenics [Link] that is the form of government (led by stake holder oligarchs) that we find ourselves in today. Also thought that the idea of tribal rule being routed out by not allowing inbreeding was germane. Does not contradict (in my mind) though with tribal zionist psychopaths claiming that their tribal genes are better (the eugenics). Also the concept of getting to the top of the greasy pole by being nasty was presented very well with the tie in to Cluster B-hive with Joshua Slocum.

Interesting name ‘Helen Dale’ - over Hill & Dale & 7 Hills of Rome (Seven Hills of Rome, group of hills on or about which the ancient city of Rome was built. The original city of Romulus was built upon Palatine Hill (Latin: Mons Palatinus).

Well Said comment TBoris.

The individual comes face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind has not come to a realisation of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent. When morals decline and good men do nothing, evil flourishes. A society unwilling to learn from past is doomed. We must never forget our history.

LindaMay · 2023-02-25T16:26:26Z

VooDoo6 exactlyyyy

When morals decline and good men do nothing, evil flourishes. A society unwilling to learn from past is doomed. We must never forget our history.

VooDoo6 · 2023-02-25T16:53:49Z

VooDoo6 exactlyyyy
When morals decline and good men do nothing, evil flourishes. A society unwilling to learn from past is doomed. We must never forget our history.

Yes exactlyyyy

Once again humanity is tasked with ‘stepping up into the breech’.

To step into the breach means to take up a task that has been abandoned by another, to take on a vital responsibility when others have not. The idiom step into the breach originated in the military. A breach is a gap in a wall or a gap in a line of defense through which the enemy may enter. The idea is that the person who steps into the breach puts himself between the item he is defending and disaster. Related phrases are steps into the breach, stepped into the breach, stepping into the breach. The expression step into the breach seems to have come into use in the 1800s, though a similar phrase is found in William Shakespeare’s Henry V: “Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; Or close the wall up with our English dead.” The phrase once more unto the breach means let us try again. [Link]
Shakespeare's Henry V, act III, scene I - “Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more."

Truth needs no defending, has no temperature & stands alone by itself.

Dwoods44 · 2023-02-26T15:54:58Z

VooDoo6 Well said, "The individual comes face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.

VooDoo6 · 2023-02-26T17:57:39Z

Dwoods44,

VooDoo6 Well said, "The individual comes face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.

Exactly. There is is.

LindaMay · 2023-02-25T16:22:57Z

My Bros

Learn or lick wounds

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I'm a true por-cue-or pine

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Replace condensed milk with heavy cream, ditch the excess sugar. Lol

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Dental Trick

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LindaMay · 2023-02-25T16:25:28Z

LindaMay lol I was funny 😁😋

VooDoo6 · 2023-02-25T16:40:44Z

LindaMay,

My Bros

Learn or lick wounds

[Link]
I'm a true por-cue-or pine

[Link]
Replace condensed milk with heavy cream, ditch the excess sugar. Lol

[Link]
Dental Trick

[Link]

Great links thank you.

Porcupine was pretty straight forward & true. Nature is amazing & miracle no doubt.

Regarding your comment ‘true por-cu-pine’ 🦔 with ‘Ball Lightning’ ☄️⚡️(per your bio) I have no doubt & very happy to have met you. Need more like you around. 🦔⚡️☄️⚡️💥⚡️☄️⚡️🦔

Tangerine Cake was awesome I will try it with adding some Poppy seeds. Non hallucinogenic species.

Yes to the different types of minerals & organic materials available. Been using 2 new formulas using clay & charcoal with good results. Thanks

EMS is nothing new, does work & a clever device he created so good on em’.

Namaste’ & thanks agin for the well grounded shares

LindaMay · 2023-02-25T18:42:01Z

VooDoo6 Lovely

Where you been all my life 🥳😉🔥

Some interesting MIND parts in these vids folks Pray to your Inner Child. Use its name

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Calling Gator