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Christmas Day forecast to be snowiest and coldest since 2000

Anthony Watts
Watt's Up With That
Thu, 15 Dec 2022 14:22 UTC

A loader on Friday digs out a parking lot in Hamburg, New York, after an intense lake effect snow storm dumped several feet of snow around Buffalo and surrounding suburbs.

Snow as far south as Louisiana and Houston Texas.

Legendary forecaster Joe Bastardi writes on Twitter: (and provides graphics to back it up)

Coldest Christmas with most widespread snow over since 2000 IMO.

GEFS Christmas temp anomalies vs 2000, and ensemble snow before that.

Impressive for an ensemble that far out.

This is what the most reliable forecast model (ECMWF) shows for surface temperature on Christmas Day:

Here is the Climatology:

And here is what the forecast model GFS shows for snow on Christmas Day - snow as far south as Louisana and Houston Texas:

heavy snow forecast great plains northeast US

He adds:

Euro control run with an I-10 snow next week. Has not snowed before Christmas since 2004 in these areas (Widespread coastal Texas White Christmas)

Comment: Global warming, eh?

Reader Comments

Winternights3 · 2022-12-15T17:09:34Z

Well the writing was on the wall and yes it has come true, is there a lesson to be learnt here?

The reliance on mainstream Media to be a reliable source of weather forecasting is now in question, for forecasting is vital for individuals to make appropriate decisions.

2023 WILL UNLEASH DEVASTATING WEATHER.

The writing is again on the wall, it's time folk were told the truth, so that they can prepare appropriately.

ReRan · 2022-12-15T17:26:49Z

Winternights3 "The reliance on mainstream Media to be a reliable source of weather forecasting is now in question,"

I was talking to a delivery driver the other day. He was saying he's thinking of becoming a TV weatherman, because there is no penalty for being wrong, they do it all the time.

Merry Christmas and all the best to you and yours!

Rife · 2022-12-15T17:22:08Z

It is colder because it got warmer

Winternights3 · 2022-12-15T17:32:19Z

Rife Hmm 🤔

Let's see shall we

Artex · 2022-12-15T19:26:21Z

Rife If you believe the pendulum model, that's correct. But the pendulum model also states that the pendulum can stick in the extreme heat or extreme cold position, and I don't think that's correct.

ReRan · 2022-12-15T17:29:21Z

In 1980, here in the Parry Sound region of Ontario, we woke up to -40 F. Coldest Christmas I've had.

HalfCuban8 · 2022-12-15T17:38:02Z

In 1980, here in the Parry Sound region of Ontario, we woke up to -40 F. Coldest Christmas I've had.

It was -37 here last week, 40 miles north of Edmonton.

ReRan · 2022-12-15T17:59:57Z

HalfCuban8 You're practically in the Arctic there! Got your long johns ready?

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-15T17:50:05Z

At my place in Virginia, in the western part of the state, the forecast is super cold for sure days upcoming close to the 25th......the issue for me mainly is it will be staying below the freezing temperature of water for more than 24 hours and possibly 48+. But, when I left last time I opened up a few of the faucets to let water (both cold and hot because yes I have a hot water heater - I'm rich!), so that some dripping could occur. Now, as I think about it, it is possible that the water in the pipes will freeze, but because I left an outlet (in more than one place) for excess pressure to be relieved (because H2O is somewhat unique in that it expands when becoming solid versus what it is in the liquid state and this has to do with polar bonds, but I digress), I think even if it does freeze, the pipes won't burst. I'll know soon enough!

Now, if I had not left the water dripping, I suspect for sure, unless the pipes are quite resistant to elevated pressure, that I would have a high dollar plumbing bill on my hands, so hopefully preparation made in advance will help avoid that unnecessary cost. At our other place next door, I just drained all the water out from the bottom of the water heater and the pipes are empty, so who cares how cold it gets I reckon.

Cold weather - I hope folks are ready.

BK

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-12-15T18:09:04Z

Buffalo_Ken - Let me add, that I have a few oil-based electric heaters (pretty efficient, compared to other non-combustion options, with oil circulating by diffusivity within the unit, but it does it take it some time to heat up so there is that), that should hopefully keep the house proper (including the faucets) from reaching freezing temperature before anything in the pipes under the house, and that way I can be fairly confident that the pressure will have an outlet and I won't have a stupid plumbing bill avoidable in the first place, but if you don't plan ahead and have contingencies, then I'm sorry to say you will pay. So, plan ahead.

F. U. Hard · 2022-12-15T18:51:37Z

"The end of snow"

New York times, 2000

I posted this elsewhere regarding this same story and was meet with the typical "you are ignorant and don't know the difference between climate and weather"

Shalmaneser · 2022-12-15T19:03:32Z

F. U. Hard Let me know if you have any links to articles mentioning how Vail Colorado was going to become one of the most crowded & expensive ski resorts on the planet. (I seem to recall reading several around that time period.)

The general story/scaremongering was: There will be no snow anywhere on the planet below 10K feet by [some date long passed now] and so all of the world's skiers will have to congregate in the few resorts with ski runs above 10K feet.

Now I think about it most every time there's a snowstorm or avalanche that closes the I-70 highway...

ReRan · 2022-12-15T22:47:04Z

Shalmaneser Wasn't that in Gore's movie, An Inconvenient Truth? By 2020 there would be no snow. Kind of inconvenient for him that nothing changed much. And now it will likely just get colder.

Shalmaneser · 2022-12-16T00:26:53Z

ReRan Quite possibly. (I never ~~could stomach~~ managed to get around to seeing the film)

But the same "narrative" appeared in a few different articles so I always supposed there was an "upstream source" involved.

I was in Denver a couple weeks back and there were a few days when there was plenty of the stuff well below the mountains!

ReRan · 2022-12-16T01:46:13Z

Shalmaneser And many places on this planet have recorded record cold over the last couple years. They just don't make the news.

Years ago I read Gregg Braden's book, The God Code. I do not remember the whole premise, but he had determined that there was a computer-type code...

ReRan

looks like a natural kill zone , herd them in keep them there

andy

The people of Germany are beginning to reject the greenie movement because it has brought nothing but disappointment with lots spent for no gain....

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slbeaudry

The us apparently place full of "older farts" don't know better.... (or could give a shit - bout the rest of us) the youth in the us are starting...

Buffalo_Ken

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