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NewsReal: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine: Context And Near-Future Outcomes

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Tue, 03 May 2022 16:00 UTC

Two months into the most politically and militarily seismic event since World War Two, is Russia 'winning' or 'losing' in Ukraine? And can this complicated situation really be reduced to such an oversimplified question and answer?

This week on NewsReal, Joe Quinn answers listeners' questions about the war in Ukraine and its global ramifications, explaining what probably happened to the Moskva Russian ship, what will likely happen to Ukrainian refugees, the probability that Ukraine will be much smaller by war's end, the Ukrainian admission that the 'Ghost of Kiev' was fake news spread to 'boost morale', and more.

Running Time: 01:45:56

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Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-03T18:10:53Z

I started watching this. I think we all have "spirit animals".....unless you just don't want one I reckon. Still, that stuffed animal on the left wasn't contributing one thing to the video at least 10 or 15 minutes in........ I've enjoyed the wisdom shared by both the hosts of this NewsReal. I might listen to the rest of this episode and I look forward to next week's addition.

Ken

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-03T23:25:23Z

Buffalo_Ken This has convinced me to watch, thank you.

isotm · 2022-05-03T20:51:00Z

An excerpt from Tragedy and Hope by Carroll Quigley written in 1965:

This diffusion of pressure outward from the western European core of Western Civilization can contribute a great deal toward a richer understanding of the period 1850- 2000. It helps to explain the Anglo-French rivalry about 1850, the Anglo-French alliance based on fear of Germany after 1900, the free-world alliance based on fear of Soviet Russia after 1950, and the danger to both Western Civilization and Soviet Civilization from Asiatic pressure by 2000 .

The pressure the author is referring to is that which results from population growth. In 1965 he seems to have broadly predicted the world as it is today with the West responding to the perceived ‘threat’ from the relatively newly hugely populous China; Russia being a Chinese ally and possessing resources that the control of could be used to subdue China.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-03T21:01:05Z

isotm - thankyou for that reference.

I just don't think China can be subdued and nor can Russia be cancelled. China can't be subdued ever again nor can India for that matter.

So, the ones left blowing in the wind are those in the EU, the UK, and the USA. The take home message is why don't those of us in the EU, the UK, USA realize we are just members of the global community and we have no right to claim exceptionalism or to exert hegemonic authority over others who can think " right effing well " on their own for Christ's sake. I mean the mere thought of perpetuating this fallacy proven time and time again spells calamity for the ones pushing their ignominious lies and hatefulness upon innocent others. The few of them pushing this narrative - ropes around their necks are forming I reckon. God Bless that.

Niall · 2022-05-03T21:04:51Z

isotm Interesting, thanks. If they were sensible, the Anglo-Americans would have done that ('absorb' Russia to 'pressure' China). Alas, today they're idiots, and so they're going to 'lose it all'. Quigley was writing at a time when - though cunning and occasionally brutal - they were still sensible. Since then, ponerization has turned them into halfwits.

Niall ·

Buffalo_Ken Amen.

· 2022-05-03T21:06:00Z

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-03T23:22:34Z

<=>isotm ..

How salient, and with that Quantum Quirk!

...ally and possessing resources that the control of...

part of the pressure that results from increased population boils down to (forgive me) scarcity of energy/resources, IMO.

--

On a tangential line, have you seen or read anything about what that PETase enzyme can do to plastic?

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-03T23:26:57Z

Buffalo_Ken You are a poet, but do you observe your negativity?

What is the use, or rather, would your energy be better directed at what you can do ? Perhaps you decide acerbic prose is that but I must put the question...

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-03T23:34:36Z

Niall [...] Alas[...] they're idiots[...]

It is a pity... Unless you don't believe in that sort of thing.

This cannot be Tom Selleck's Quigley, I must investigate.

Shangri · 2022-05-04T03:42:52Z

azigzagidiot am reminded of the recent (though commonsensical) discovery of microplastic pollution in the human bloodstream - that propelled me to the 1969/71 novel/movie "The Andromeda Strain" , about a deadly microbe that turns blood to dust and eats Plastics and skin...so ending with another classic, "Damn them all to Hell".

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-04T04:21:44Z

Shangri ugh... Yes, reading through the phys.org article it occured to me that we need to be careful... Enzyme came from worms, and they wax and shine AI and synthetic chemistry. So it's yoking the enzymes... Gross.

I could be wrong, it could be the priming (and I made the point not to look), but I'll say M.C.

Pretty sure also you're a Navigator. but I should check my assumptions...

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-04T04:31:06Z

i had heard what seemed promising mention of the topic by someone who referenced a vice article. Should've read the signs! or i wouldn't have mentioned it.

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-04T05:13:21Z

Shangri Found a book.

Thank you

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-04T05:24:31Z

Buffalo_Ken Niall Amen.

Good show! Thank you 🦬 🦄

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-04T05:28:43Z

~~Good show!~~

Fine presentation

parzival ·

Niall

· 2022-05-05T03:15:01Z

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-03T22:42:24Z

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Operation ℤ <=> ℚ

Is this worth watching/listening?

Should I play it at fast speed to put to use the same method for info impartation already leveraged?

Rowan Cocoan HVACTech

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-03T23:11:59Z

..

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Does a Buffalo poop on the plains?

are SoTT comments worth reading?

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-04T20:35:01Z

azigzagidiot - I'll take the bait. The answer to both questions is YES. Any other questions? I might answer and I might not obviously and yes negativity is necessary sometimes because without it how would we even know what is positive thinking and such.

You know, going back in history and reading what was expressed is a great way to learn because it become evident whose prognostications came to be versus who was full of BS.

BK

ps - I think you need some new glasses.

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-04T21:38:31Z

Buffalo_Ken Have you adopted the Rangers?

You know, going back in history and reading what was expressed is a great way to learn because it become evident whose prognostications came to be versus who was full of BS.

Thanks for writing.

az

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-04T21:51:02Z

azigzagidiot - being a Ranger is worthwhile is what I think.

Nice upgrade to your "moniker image". I ought know who the person is, and I respect his stance in the picture - seems like somebody willing to talk across the table.

azig-zag-idiot is how I break your name down, but hells-bells who cares and what difference does it make.

Educate me if you got something to teach.

I'm an optimist, but it don't mean my sentiment is always positive. Please, educate me.

BK

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-08T01:42:13Z

Buffalo_Ken I do not know.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-08T14:43:10Z

azigzagidiot - you say:

I do not know

Well, then maybe you should study more? Hey, for the fun of it, really just joshing around, here is another breakdown of you "name" here as a poster at Sott.net.

a-zig-zag-idiot

ps - I don't know what that emoji above means either....so, who is the guy sitting there with has hands in his lap?

BK

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-08T20:41:08Z

Buffalo_Ken He is a "unique idiot".

An "arch idiot".

A "square idiot".

Cheers

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-08T20:43:38Z

azigzagidiot - oh that is slippery......very well.

What you think about Bechamp's ideas versus Pasteur? When it comes to ideas about what makes us humans feel healthy or not.

And idgit idiot is one you failed to mention.

Plus - cheers back to you. I raise a toast of what I just got - some Captain Morgan along with some cocoa liquor. Oooh it feels good going down!

A toast!

Nathan Carney · 2022-05-04T23:57:29Z

Thank you for a good show.

These are interesting comments.

I started reading into them and it it was a slap of reality. It's refreshing to hear the reasoning behind events in Ukraine and historical context regarding failed policy.

I like reality.

I haven't had the best day and I stayed up late listening to the show.

I've personally been thinking about what I can do and I sort of have some good answers for that.

So glad you mentioned the querk, the surface tension one just so fantastic.

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-08T20:47:29Z

Nathan Carney

I haven't had the best day and I stayed up late listening to the show.

I've personally been thinking about what I can do and I sort of have some good answers for that.

Some (Mme.) Lady taught me a "Pipe Breathing" technique, and if I can do that for 20x, maybe that 2x, I'm much better, perhaps most especially after a long night, it's like you can re-energize somewhat irrespective of lack of sleep.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-05T00:55:38Z

OK, lets presume all the air outlets from the factory with deep tunnels in Mariupol have been identified. Because really if they have no fresh air then they are dead after awhile. So assuming all those air outlets have basically been identified then there must be a way to close them off and seal the place in. After all this time this must be obvious. Then, send a gas down into the place that basically puts them all to sleep. Easy peasy. Put them to sleep and then confront them directly.

Carefully go down there - any of them with a canister of fresh air who tries to shoot at you - well, kill them dead. Then get to the rest of them, many of them probably hoping just to be with their family again, and bring them to the surface and let them know - you been in the wrong place for the wrong reason and there will be consequences, but thank the heavens above and maybe the "portal" in Ukraine that you are still alive and really - some humility would do you some good.

Then, find out the facts, where they came from, why they were there, and then, let justice be served.

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-08T20:45:33Z

Buffalo_Ken ...what? I must investigate...

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-08T20:46:59Z

azigzagidiot - is that question in regards to my post above regarding air supply?

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-08T21:43:14Z

Buffalo_Ken the whole deal about tunnels and what not, I was unaware of such. Portal I had heard of (lol..).

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-08T23:56:44Z

azigzagidiot - well if you want to get into the nitty gritty, the reality is airflow will find its way down there, but if the main sources get closed off, the flow necessary for a healthy environment with respect to air turnover will decrease and this will result in an increase in CO2 concentration in the air. It is not healthy and if there remain innocent civilians down there against their will there is a serious chance they will perish. This is very wrong and needs to be prevented. There are many gases that can be used to put those who breathe them in in an already unhealthy and unbalanced atmospheric situation to sleep gently. They will not perish but their metabolism will decrease for a period of time. There are probably ways the "air balance" could be measured in order to choose the best time to send the gas in. The best places to send the gas in are those that previously, before being blocked, provided the most airflow. Send the gas down there, put them to sleep, and then kill the ones who are trying to defend their crimes against humanity if they act offensively - there will only be a few of them.

Bring everyone up top, resuscitate them, and then let justice be served.

Nathan Carney · 2022-05-05T02:19:46Z

They probably have gas masks.

I found this poem on InessaS telegram.

And went to a translated page.

[Link]

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-05T02:32:54Z

Nathan Carney - that link has been bookmarked.

Thankyou.

Ken

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-08T15:00:58Z

Nathan Carney - Nathan, let me add that I have saved that poem and I entitled it: " Poem of the Slavs ".

I'll admit upfront I do not properly understand all the nuance, but I thought it was a great poem and it resonated with me.

Thanks,

Ken

- for the sake of all the Mother's out there, on this day in particular, can this family squabble amongst the Slavs stay subdued - I sure hope so because I know this - it is none of my damn business unless of course some bigger weapons get projected out into the time horizon room - then all bets are off, and all defenses are called to high alert.

azigzagidiot ·

Nathan Carney Cool.

· 2022-05-25T23:57:12Z

parzival · 2022-05-05T03:18:54Z

Biosecurity grooming There's no stopping progress. Not even in Russia by Edward Slavsquat May 4 [Link]
*

"...This is just a small sample of the most heartwarming examples of biosecurity grooming currently underway in Russia.

Is there any evidence that these types of biosecurity systems are being abandoned or derailed in any way? No. None that we have seen.

You can’t stop progress, not even in super-sanctioned, “anti-Davos” Russia. How did this happen?

Hide your kids." [Link]

Nathan Carney · 2022-05-05T04:23:42Z

parzival your right, that's sick and twisted.

Consider though to being attacked by the Empire of Lies with biolabs ( corrected biomass lol) across the world--a swift and appropriate response is needed.

So its not good, but it may be more complicated.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-05T04:34:11Z

parzival - if a kid has a fever the parents should keep the kid home so the kid don't make other kids sick or whatever. To see some sort of bigger harm out of taking the temperature of kids coming to school in Russia seems to be missing the forest from the tree if you want my opinion parzival. I hope you have refined some of your views on Russia because Russia is not the origin of the problems today - Russia responded as only Russia is able, and the rest of us need to respond as well because the troubles ain't coming from Russia. At the end of the day, Russia will remain the country on the globe with the most landmass and other countries will learn a bit of well needed humility. That is the best outcome.

parzival ·

Nathan Carney

· 2022-05-05T05:17:04Z

parzival · 2022-05-05T05:17:55Z

Buffalo_Ken No, Russia is not the problem, nor are they the solution...

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-05-08T13:39:06Z

Buffalo_Ken No, Russia is not the problem, nor are they the solution...

parzival - you got my agreement on this.

We have to be the solution - individually and collectively.

Ken

parzival · 2022-05-09T01:25:30Z

Buffalo_Ken Yep, it's definitely up to us to make it together collectively in our local communities while working on being as self sufficient as possible developing useful skills to contribute to a post nanny state world...

parzival · 2022-05-05T06:13:36Z

Weapons 4 Ukraine (& Military Industrial Complex) [Link]

griever · 2022-05-08T00:33:39Z

The Davos crowd is working overtime to destroy civilization. They must get paid by the hour:

Food factories and warehouses are exploding left and right

Fertilizer is inflating astronomically or outright evaporating from the market

Gas and diesel shortages are going critical

The global supply chain is being obliterated

US trains are cutting their car allocation for fertilizers right at the start of the planting season

Same with feed grain for livestock

Shanghai, one of the largest hubs for trade in the world has been shuttered

The abortion hornets’ nest has just been deliberately kicked field goal style with a steel toed boot

The promises of Klaus Schwab of the havoc that Cyber Polygon will bring grow ever nearer

Governments are recklessly and deliberately printing and destroying their currencies across the globe. The petro-dollar has just been dethroned and trillions will come rushing home as a result. Hyper-inflation is in the wind

Meanwhile, WWIII looms ominously on the horizon as NATO keeps deliberately escalating the war in Ukraine

The line it is drawn

The curse it is cast

The slow one now

Will later be fast

As the present now

Will later be past

The new order is

Rapidly fadin'.

And the first one now

Will later be last

For the times they are a-changin'.

-Bob Dylan

Prepare accordingly.

Solutions at the bottom, send me yours:

[Link]

azigzagidiot · 2022-05-26T00:56:33Z

griever thanks for the link to tritorch

parzival · 2022-05-08T13:06:34Z

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