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The adding of "Framing Erdogan" is the opinion of the person who copy pasted the text. He made it up. He maybe believes that it is like that or perhaps wishes that it was like that. But it is not logical. I read all your comments from yesterday, my friend.Read, but did not understand. If you understood, you would have been open to the question posed by that addition in the headline. If you haven't realized by now - with the Snowden leaks and the recent Vault7 leaks - that nothing is as it seems when it comes to social media and hacking and cyberwarfare, then you have not been paying attention to 'the news'.
They are opinions reflecting your world view. Not independent or unbiased!Actually, they are more likely to be exactly that. The official view is that Erdogan is behind this; but an independent mind need not accept that uncritically, given what is publicly known about information warfare.
Copying and pasting from news agencies all over the world and then run it through your world view filter ending up with a possible conspiracy theory. Kicking against the establishment as much as you can while enjoying the safety and freedom that that same establishment provides you.You really love Big Brother, huh.
Believe me, I have a large distrust in the EU or USA policies.You don't really. You trust them wholeheartedly.
I believe in some form of NWO theory and I am not naif but what you people are doing is trying to find conspiracies in everything that comes around.If you manage to stick around here long enough, you'll encounter criticism from those complaining that we are not conspiratorial enough!
I wrote you before, you are Conspiracy theory extremists.That's exactly what your Establishment trained you to think and say.
And as a result of your extreme desire to prove conspiracies you mix up "news" with the writers opinion. As you do above. You most probably refer to your own writings as "news" as well. You should monitor and sensor yourself.Which is also exactly what your Establishment wants to do (and is working very hard to achieve). Don't worry; your time is coming! Soon our kind will be silenced, permanently.
Well, I read this website for a while now but I get the idea that it is not unbiased or independed at all. It is of course very tempting to see conspiracies everywhere but it is annoying to present a theory as facts.Like your Establishment presenting as fact the theory that Russia is responsible for shooting down MH17?
It is all in the eye of the beholder.Yes, and most beholders are useless when it comes to contributing towards objectivity.
Like you writing that the Dutch had the information that the Turks where coming. Apart from the fact that the Dutch need to atleased approve a Turkish visit before they fly out, the Turks knew that they where not welcome except if they would keep a number of guidelines in mind. The Turks apparently refused limitations on their visit and treathened with sanctions. The Dutch than flat-out refused the visit while stating that they do not respond well to pressure.This is, by definition, a conspiracy theory; that is, it's an explanation for what apparently happened between one set of elites and another.
Now, if this information is correct the story suddenly looks different, don't it?A more appropriate term (not least because it isn't loaded with suggestion) is 'narrative'. What you have there is a narrative; the one put out by your Establishment, I presume.
Maybe Rutte always had a spine. Having a spine and being "soft" can very well go together. It can very well be that the Dutch are extremely tolerant and willing to debate endlessly without even realising their voices. As in a through democracy, perhaps. It is not so that the harder you scream the stronger your spine. Erdogan screams non stop, in his world probably a clear sign of having a spine, but he is a thief and corrupt so in essence a person without a spine. May be the Dutch draw a line and when crossed they act. Who's to tell.Maybe. Or maybe he was taking orders from a higher power? Oops, sorry, that's verboten ! Phew, I censored myself in time.
I t could very well be that the Dutch where opportunistic. It is a known fact that they are devious as well. Taking a tremendous risk though, because it was highly expected that also Wilders would benefit from the issue. He eventually did not.Yes, that surprised me too. Maybe the results were rigged or tampered with?
It can also very well be that the twitter issue was meant to frame Erdogan.Ah, so it did get you thinking...
But I have a hard time to believe that in this level of politics something so childish is used to frame a wanna be dictator.You are very naive! Anything and EVERYTHING is used in politics, ESPECIALLY when it comes to framing 'wannbe dictators'.
I think a LIRA dump is more realistic. As is going on since a while.Maybe. Rather conspiratorial though, no?
Either way, we do not know anything substantial. We are all guessing.Yes, indeed.
But there is always also another possibility. The possibility that there is no conspiracy at all. Nowhere! Things simply happen as they unfold. I know, it is dull and boring but it is possible.True. I have a difficult time trying to convince people that the West is not going to be in charge for much longer because the US is bankrupt and because China is more economically powerful than the US, but they find that fact terribly dull and boring and prefer to believe in conspiracy theories about hordes of dark-skinned people coming to forcibly convert them to Islam then impregnate their women.
Comment: Interesting timing, considering Erdogan's upcoming Presidential referendum, his working relationship with Russia, and the big dust-up it's all causing in Europe.
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