Some students at the 147-year-old university (pictured) have suggested the National Anthem was culled because it is 'irrelevant', 'old-fashioned' or might even be 'offensive to some'
The anthem has not been played since last year's ceremony with the university saying it regularly updates its graduation ceremonies.
God Save The King will now only be played when a member of the Royal Family is present.
Some students at the 147-year-old university have suggested the National Anthem was culled because it is 'irrelevant', 'old-fashioned' or might even be 'offensive to some'.
It comes just weeks after the university vowed to remove slave trader Edward Colston's emblem from its logo, after his statue was toppled during a Black Lives Matter protest in the city in June 2020.
Free Speech Union director Toby Young asked: 'Why are Britain's most prestigious universities openly contemptuous of the country's history and heritage?'
A University of Bristol spokesperson said: "The University routinely updates aspects of its Graduation ceremonies, which included the 2020 decision that the National Anthem would be played when representatives of the Royal Family, such as the Lord-Lieutenant, are in attendance."
It comes after a former Labour councillor and Emeritus Professor Harriet Bradley, who used to work at the university, called for 'someone to blow up the venue' where the Jewish Labour Movement is hosting its annual conference.
The 78-year-old has since deleted the tweet.
The offensive post has led to a furious backlash from the Jewish community, with the sociology professor, who studies the 'inequalities of class, gender, ethnicity', being reported to the police and her former employer.
Avon and Somerset Police are reportedly investigating the matter as an 'incident of malicious communications'.
Daniel Sugarman, who is director of public affairs for the Board of Deputies of British Jews, responded: 'I checked to see if this tweet was real. It is.
'I'm currently sitting in the building where Jewish Labour held their conference last year, so you can appreciate this is of some additional concern to me. An Emeritus Professor of Sociology at the University of Bristol.'
In a now-deleted Tweet, Harriet Bradley, 78, who worked at Bristol University, called for 'someone to blow up the venue' where the Jewish Labour Movement is hosting its annual conference
Black Lives Matter protesters gathered to pull the bronze statue of 17th century slave trader Edward Colston from its plinth before toppling it into the harbour head first
Professor Evelyn Welch, vice-chancellor and president of the university, announced the decision to strip Colston's emblem in an open letter, in which she also apologised to those who had experienced racism at the institution.
The personal emblem of the 17th century merchant - a dolphin - was incorporated into the design of the university's modern logo in 2003 from the coat of arms awarded at the institution's foundation in 1909.
A university spokesman said the 4,000 students, staff and members of local communities who responded to the survey felt it was 'crucial to acknowledge and explain the past' and the historical significance of such figures.
Reader Comments
Haven't you got one of your own?
How many languages does the average English speak? The answer is known to all of us who are not English.Would you be willing to learn mine? Naaaah, that's for inferior races.
Would you be willing to learn other languages like the rest of the people? If not, please stay in your bcountry, and there's no need for you to send your beloved bombs to kill infants, women, and steal resources while enslaving and then calling it replacement migration or disposable human capital
Highland Fleet LuteI thought you were smarter or at least had a bit more memory that lasts more than 4 hours. And how do you tell them to stop being genocidal, mass-murdering enslavers, thieves, and rapists in my own land? Did they bother to communicate? The rest of the world is willing to talk before shooting. Do they understand anything else?I feel quite ashamed that we are of the same species, but the English don't feel it; that's why they created Darwinism and put themselves at the top of the pyramid.
Jumps the protection wall and asks about the English.
Kan Gu ru.
And I say all this to you with all the respect in the world. I can distinguish between government, country, population, people, and individuals, although I wouldn't expect the same treatment from the English.
This way, you don't have to romantically imagine your past conquests.
At best, you care little, and it's likely that you actually enjoy it.
Another day on SOTT.
Prod another lunatic, out comes another 100ft pus fountain.
You wipe it up.
Your job not mine.
And I haven't even read the article, just the headline
But perhaps that - is it a so-called Indo-European language ?
I speak three langauges more or less fluently, and English is not my native tongue either. I had started learning two further languages during the last 25 years (Spanish and Norwegian) but did'nt get far - objectives changed, and more urgent issues ate up most of my time.
But many so-called Indo-European languages are quite similiar, and relatively easy to learn if you already know one.
The curious thing is that of the languages I learned and later forgot, the numbers are the ones I still remember in their original language. To this day, I can count from 1 to 10 in 11 languages. I suppose I remember them because of counting money
The only rules I'll ask for are that you only write the first letter of the first and last syllable of the language or country you think I am. You have three chances, plus one more if you get one of the two right without hitting the second.
Let's start with the first clue: my mother tongue, although I don't master it entirely, and it takes a lifetime to speak it as it deserves. At each stage of life, its words and way of speaking change to reduce expression time, although it increases the difficulty of comprehension.
It's a language whose past is lost in the dawn of humanity, and its origin is not from a single region or specific time. Although speakers from a specific region conquered the minds and hearts of over 75% of the world's population without crossing their own natural borders.
According to the U.S. Department of State, it's the most difficult language to learn for anyone coming from Indo-European languages.
I know you're smart enough to guess it with that and other conversations. But if you want it easier, I can give you one more clue.
"No false clues."
The truth is, I felt a bit disappointed when he replied; I expected more from him or someone else. Even though I don't know him, I can change my perception of him. I won't deny that some of his links and comments entertained me.
And, of course, there's no individual or group of individuals who can represent the richness of the variety of a region or country, but there will always be those who believe otherwise.
Whatever, I'm not the person nosing around in other people's private issues.
But linguistics is a very interesting field. Knowing one Slavic language quite well, I can include some other Eastern European one's into my considerations. At least to a limited extend.
And while it is mostly absent in any course I ever came across, a language transpires much of the culture and thinking of the people that speak it. E.g. the gender of nouns, forming of tenses, and figures of speech reveal as much about the culture as loanwords reveal about exchanges with other cultures.
Just saying ...
But I always wanted to learn Russian, Chinese, and Swahili to communicate with the maximum number of people. It was a fantasy from my adolescence. I also wanted to learn Yoruba; they say it's one of the most beautiful languages spoken by humans.
But it served me well - not the least in regard to family matters. It is the native language of my wife (despite she would probably claim "Ukrainian" now). Only it comes with the additional hurdle of the "funky" cyrillic alphabet... Now that's a delicate topic. Religion only fitted your clue perfectly. And while I consider myself a spiritual person, I don't have a high opinion of organized religion and churches. To say the least.
And in regard to blood sacrifices, I understand that as a reference to an ongoing conflict.
Perhaps it's due to the type of work I usually do, but I see it more as a matter of numbers, logarithms, directives, and closed structures that were basically broken by human sentimental errors, and now they're trying to fix it with the same feelings using numbers and logarithms when, in reality, the result has already been computed.
Although perhaps not in the way you intended.
The so-called vikings would be another example, albeit they supposedly sacrificed only prisoners of war, not their own. Though it seems sometimes archeologists mix that up with certain harsh punishments that were custom in the North - like dumping adulterers in swamps.
But I was thinking of another, very prominent religion whose holy book promotes sacrifice of children and humans. In fact, many protestant theologians equate the old-testamentarian god with Moloch.
As a side note in regard to you clue, a lot of different theories about history and religion make it somewhat murky to me. I am only sure that history is not what we are told, and especially not what those religious works themselves say.
But I digress - at first glance I associated 3 languages. Sanskrit as language of many Hindu and Bhuddist writings, Aramaic (or Hebrew) as language of bibilcal scripts (AFAIK no script of alleged originality is in Hebrew), and Arabic as the language of the Quran. In light of the difficulty clue, I would tend towards Arabic ...
But something is always lost in translation, and even then, the world was much smaller than it is now. One of the most gruesome tortures I've read about the Vikings is the "blood eagle" revenge, where they would remove the lungs through the victim's back. On another note, in many ancient civilizations, kings sacrificed their firstborn as a gift to the gods, promising victory in a great battle. I agree, that's why I prefer archaeology or anthropology. I had planned that when I retire, I would learn Assyrian or Sumerian and, as a hobby, spend years reading posts and blogs on clay and stone,
Supporters view it as a method for capital punishment. Which opens another can of worms ...
While my place of birth and residence is far away, these old civilisations are very interesting. Notwithstanding crazy theories that they colonized Britain in ancient times, it is mostly their stories and myths that is repackaged as biblical OT nowadays.Especially the flood myth (with Gilgamesh repackaged as "Noah"), which seems to refer to an actual historical event, reflected in ancient myths and writings all around the world.
And while this mostly refers to Sumer, I have some kind of connection to Assur as well - in the form of an Assyrian style bow ...
That would be a good enough reason for getting rid of it.
But first, have you got a better one?
No, I thought not.
And this is the crux of the matter as per cancel culture.
If you haven't got a better tune, shut up and leave things alone.
I think proper language is paramount.
If you don't know the verse, you don't know the sentence.
If you don't know the sentence, you don't know the period.
Period.
Keep on rockin' in the free world.
ned,
out
As for culture, Ancient Greece is the mother of almost all cultures. It gave its culture to Rome, which passed it on to Europe and Byzantium, and those countries passed it on to all their colonies throughout the globe. There are a few exceptions - those places which were never colonised by Europe - such as China, Japan, and Mongolia. If you know the difference, you can understand why Communism failed everywhere except China. It is a natural fit with Chinese culture, but not with any culture in the West or its descendants.
I'm not going to try to guess your origins. Your English is excellent, which might be a diversionary clue. But if I had to hazard a guess, I would pick one of the variants of Farsi, either Persian, Dari, Uzbek or Tajik, because it's one of the most ancient languages still widely spoken, and has donated much vocabulary to the original European languages. And as for your work, I would guess you work for the USGOV, either State, NSA, DHS, or, God forbid, CIA. If that's true, be careful what you say here, they are almost certainly watching us. I can say what I please, I am of no consequence and the audience is small, but if you work for them, you should be cicumspect.
Everything they have is from somewhere else(Language, numbers, science, medicine, and much more, and yet they believe they civilized the world). If I could make just one trip to the past, I would try to prevent the Anglo-Saxons from joining forces. Imagine the death and destruction at a human level that could have been avoided and the civilizational progress that could have been achieved as a species. We could now be expanding into the solar system as a generative species, not a degenerating predatory one. You're not far off, but I gave the key hint above, (inside Codis comment ). Although I find it amusing that you consider that possibility, I don't think any of those agencies would ever accept me, given my origins. They could never be certain of my loyalty to them, and it would be too risky to have someone like me on the inside. I don't think they would be that foolish. Regarding my work, I'm just a multidisciplinary project engineer, and that has also provided me with many anecdotes.
As for what I was talking about with
Codis, it was based on other lengthy conversations I had with him. And he, perhaps, does work for some agency.I think many of us here at SOTT are here for the same reason, because we are aware that chaos already dominates our lives, and we know that the universe is an infinite evil of randomness. Our task is to navigate it together on the raft of life, a raft held together by those things we know are predictable—us. And it matters little what happens to us as long as we accept the virtues and flaws of others. So let's hope to reach our destination, wherever and whatever it may be, whether it exists or not.
There history had been defined by Scandinavian/Germanic invaders (i.e. Normans, Angles and Saxons, coming from the continent. The original Celts and Picts are mostly driven back and decimated. I see their language (English) as a Germanic derivate, very close to German, Flemish/Dutch, and Scandinavian languages (DK, SV, NO).
Hitler (whom I believe to have been a British agent, or at least heavily influenced by Britain *) certainly welcomed the idea, equating the "Northern race" with his "Aryans".
* - There is a chapter in the famous "My Struggle" book (deliberately using the English title), title, named "Mit Großbritannien gegen den Bolschevismus". Which means, he intended to team up with Britain against the Soviet Union. I suppose you know that Hitler's actual authorship is somehwat doubted. Enter Bernhard Stempfle ...
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So I downloaded a copy from an US server, but didn't even make it halfway through. To me. it seemed mostly a rehash of Houston Chamberlains's "Grundlagen des 19. Jahrhunderts" (The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century). By the way, even Wackopedia admits that Jesuit Bernhard Stempfle "helped" Hitler writing that book. I think it's fair to assume he was his ghost writer.
But even more interestingly, I had been following this topic loosely for years, and observed how certain facts slowly disappeared from the internet, Winston-Smith-style. While Wackopedia mentions Hitler's British relatives, the fact that he had been to the UK in the late '20 for almost a year is now gone from public view. Which reminds me of Rudolf Hess' strange flight to the UK during the war, and his incarceration ...
My working theory is both sides, the national-socialist Germany and the international-socialist Soviet Union, were build up by Anglo-Saxon elites, to destroy each other in an epic clash and bring upon the world government they dreamed of. Under benevolent Anglo-Saxon supremacy, of course ... Another thing I am aware of for almost a decade, and that flies in the face of the propagated narrative.
As a side note, the Israel project also served as troublespot to keep a strategic area under indirect British control. Strategic both in the sense of energy supply (oil) and trade (shipping routes).
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