Science of the Spirit
Each word of sarcasm, each thinly veiled joke or put-down undercut my self-esteem. Each knocked me down a rung in life and kept me from my potential.
Rampant comparisons to other Indian kids succeeding academically, attacks of my mediocre performance at school, and harsh language were my mother's weapons of choice.
When someone attacks your self-esteem repeatedly, you feel beat down. It feels like you were meant to fly, but your own family is making you drown.
Then, your natural tendency might be to do to others what someone has done to you.
My tendencies were to judge and compare others in my mind, to taunt and verbally attack them. It was fitting then, I guess, that my career path led me to becoming a lawyer, now an ex-lawyer.
As I got into the habits of sabotaging and hurting others, I never thought much about it. I just assumed that because my parents had talked to me harshly and treated me badly, I had the license to do the same to others.
Others could handle the pain because I had. Others could endure a verbal lashing because I had. Others could handle emotional abuse because I had.
You, too, might have grown up in a household that wounded you deeply. You might have never been able to leave the shadow of the pain and suffering you experienced. And you might have learned to treat people as others once treated you.
I've come to believe that just because others hurt us, that doesn't mean we have to continue the cycle of abuse.
You don't have to fall into your natural, default behaviors. You can change. You can choose different actions and make different decisions. You can break the cycle of negativity, criticism, and abuse.
Here are six steps to heal the pain you felt and end the cycle of hurt.
1. Work on forgiving those who hurt you.
This may be much more easily said than done, but forgiveness is the key to healing. If you can't forgive today, at least set the intention to forgive. It doesn't matter how tragic or traumatic your past was; you must forgive for yourself. You'll feel like a heavy weight has been lifted from your shoulders. You will be able to breathe much more easily.
It helps to put your abuser's behavior in perspective so you can see their actions in a different light.
Try to understand what influenced their behaviors and characteristics. For example, with my parents, they were likely raised in a similar way. Also, culturally, parents in Asia tend to be direct and hold you to high standards because they want you to succeed in life. Their intentions may have been ultimately good, but the way they went about parenting was misguided.
Look at them through a lens of gratefulness. What could you appreciate about them, in spite of the pain they caused? Is there anything you can appreciate about the pain? I owe my sense of compassion, which is the foundation of my work, to my parents. Because of how I was hurt growing up, I now do work that reduces suffering and helps people find peace.
Look at them through a perspective of love. If you saw them through a loving prism, how would you explain their actions and behavior?
2. Work on your own healing.
Instead of burning in anger and hatred, focus on what you need for your emotional and mental health.
Assess the damage they've caused, look at the impact their behavior has had on your life, and determine what you must heal.
Visit a counselor if necessary. Find coping mechanisms. Write about your hurt. Open yourself to a spiritual practice. Seek the tools that can help you heal your emotional wounds.
Cultivate love for yourself. Speak to yourself gently. Let go of your high demands and expectations of yourself. Notice if how you treat yourself is similar to how the people who hurt you in the past treated you.
3. Look for alternative role models.
Watch your behavior and notice what you do when others hurt or anger you. How do you react when others push your buttons?
If you don't know how to respond or react differently from the people who raised you, look for alternative role models. Seek people with positive and emotionally healthy ways of responding to personal situations.
Study them. Take notes. Notice how they handle trying circumstances. Model their behavior in your own interpersonal relationships.
4. Learn positive and empowering behavior.
If you were taught destructive and dysfunctional ways of being and speaking, opt for alternative ways. Hold back on hurtful words, convey your needs with softer language, and respect other people's boundaries. Practice listening intently instead of responding rashly to what others say to you.
Recently, someone told me that I couldn't park my car in a particular part of a lot and had to park much further back and walk. The area I had parked in was for the vendors of the event I was attending.
My first reaction was to fight back, use the parking lot rules against them, ask for the manager, and make a big scene about how unjust it was for me to have to move my car a couple blocks away where there was clearly space right there.
Then I noticed the person was wearing a volunteer badge and had an overwhelmed expression on his face. I opted not to do what my defacto behavior was and instead chose understanding. I tried to see that he was doing the best he could and was just looking out for the vendors, who were critical to a successful event.
Even if this person was wrong and even if it was unfair, I could still make his day a little less stressful and more pleasant. I could avoid arguing, making a scene, or verbally attacking someone who was trying their best to serve others.
5. Focus on your reactions instead of the behavior of others.
You can't control others' reactions, but you can learn to notice, change, and improve your own.
Look for triggers and other behavior that provokes you. Notice your immediate reaction when people treat you badly, disrespect you, or lash out against you.
Instead of immediately engaging with this behavior, withdraw, reflect, analyze, and take a thoughtful next step.
This is what I had to do when I was talking to a woman I had recently met, who was not a fan of the type of writing I do.
I found her remarks dismissive and non-supportive, and felt like lashing out. I wanted to attack her in some way or put down some part of her life that she valued, but after several days and after much calming down, I focused on my reaction. I let the anger simmer, re-evaluated her simple preference for fiction writing, and came to the conclusion that different people have different reading preferences.
I was still hurt and told her so without demeaning or attacking her in return. I was able to communicate that I was hurt, which she apologized for, without hurting her. A win!
6. Spread your light.
Remind yourself that even if you grew up with challenging people and the darkness of human behavior, you get to choose how you treat others and show up in the world.
You can operate by the default of hurting others β or, worse, seek revenge β and mimic the harmful and negative habits you witnessed growing up, or you can actively take different steps and make different choices.
You can bring yourself out of the darkness of bad behavior, cruelty, abuse, and negligent child rearing. You can go out in the world choosing love and spreading your light of compassion and understanding.
You can be the conduit who transforms pain into healing, not only for yourself but for everyone around you. You can show others who are hurting that forgiveness, understanding, love, and compassion are possible even after you've been hurt. And in doing so, you can help make the world a less hurtful place
Comment: The above is easier said than done, but essentially, the author is asking you to adopt a more Stoic approach to life. See also:
- Stoicism: An old approach for living a new life happily
- Three Stoic lessons from a galaxy far, far away
- Anger is temporary madness: A Stoic guide to anger management
- 12 questions that can change your life forever
Reader Comments
I always liked this story, though I still haven't figured it out:
'A man who was prone to anger was instructed to go stand by a dead tree in the village square and to greet people in friendship and to give them food, which was given to him. He did this for years until one day a certain man refused his greeting and ignored the food. This upset the (formerly angry) man so much that he pulled out his pistol and shot the second man dead. It turns out, however, that this second man was a heinous serial killer who was about to commit his worst crime yet, which was thus prevented. The dead tree, by the way, suddenly sprang to life...'
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A long time ago, a sage embarked on a voyage from India to Persia on a merchant vessel. There were three merchants and their goods on the ship. One night the sage went on deck and overheard a conversation where one of the merchants was attempting to hire a number of sailors to murder the other two merchants and divide the loot among them.
The following night the sage murdered the one merchant in his sleep.
It is said, that the sage has not created negative Karma from his action, because his motive was to prevent the one merchant to create a much worse Karma for himself by murdering the two others out of greed.
That might give the green light for those who want to prevent others to create incredibly bad Karma for themselves. Like regime members.
I believe we treat others the same as we treat ourselves. Haven't seen an exception yet. But when one grows up with abusive parents he or she learns to continue this behavior not only towards others. It's how we continue that abuse on our own mind, heart, soul and body. I grew up with an idea that my death would bring relief to my mom as the only kind of loving action I could do as a child. Unfortunately, she was overwhelmed by responsibilities and financial hardships and said many times I was a burden and wished not to have children if could. There was no limitations on physical and verbal abuse.
For people like me even considering the concept of loving self is as comprehensible as flying tomorrow to another galactic.
I have good relationships with my mom now and talk to her every day. She would never consider asking for forgiveness because in her mind she is still a victim. She suffered. That's all that matter. She only remembers her suffering. But I don't need it anymore. I'm free to have a good connection with her just the way she is and without pain. Many things helped. One of them was going to Landmark classes (those in NYC prob have heard about it). There I learned something that snaps you out of victim mindset and allows you to move on but not run away. The idea is that you have to accept wholeheartedly and unconditionally that your parents loved you no matter what they did or didn't do, said or never said. You have to accept it as truth before doing any other work. You have to start telling people around you that your parents loved you. You have to keep saying it to yourself. And then your mind shifts. It's pretty surreal. Your mind starts feeding you these suppressed or forgotten memories of love. All over sudden I start remembering my mom acting lovingly, taking care of me. Because now it fits the narrative of the mind, now I'm not in conflict with myself and the idea my mom doesn't love me. Now she loves me and over time I remembered many more examples of her love (ok, not perfect or ideal love, but the way she is capable of love). But that took me out of "poor little me" mindset and biggest gift I ever gave myself.
That's the deal with our mind. It wants to be right and makes sure you don't have many internal conflicts. Bias confirmation.
And when it comes to forgiving others I believe it's much more powerful to start with forgiving yourself. For allowing them to hurt you, for believing bad things about yourself, for not standing up for yourself, for doing and saying hurtful things to others. When we release ourselves from the hold "I need to punish myself a little more" we touch a grace and forgiveness towards others come easy. Thank you for letting me share.
Then I connected the whole motherly love thing with the worlds problems and as I had recently came across an interesting idea delivered by Hui Min King (Human King??) through Carl Jung, I wrote it up here [Link] - In dutch, hope translate works out. The idea I came across is that ever since civilization we may have been neglecting our subconscious placeholder for the building of functional internal and external social group behavior and dialogues in a fully connected conscious-subconscious mind, or is the conscious a result of a narrowed view of the world to enable large civilization/slavery and does a fully functional mindscape not require the differentiation?. I ended up putting the mother first in my suggestion for restoring this functionality.
Because just like Mother Earth, she is the primary source of our being and should never be neglected. For if we neglect her she ends up neglecting us and all you'll get in a bunch of guys desperately in search for mother's love their entire live and end up trying to find it in the weirdest places but never being satisfied. Someone reminded me of English boarding schools of the 'elites' and how rife with a abuse that was, there children get the idea that motherly love is authoritarian abuse and seek that instead but never fulfilled because it isn't what their naturally looking for so they can never get to the point of separation in order to become an individual responsible adult, instead always looking for webs of authoritarian hierarchies in which they do not hold responsibility and thus never elevate beyond childishness with a mean streak.
Ultimately of course, what that failed search really looks for when separation fails, is return to the womb, which death delivers too, as we're returned to mother Earth. You could also do like me, (or perhaps a bit classier) - find a woman keen to provide motherly love and at some point she can't provide more or you had enough and you have to break up and there you gain your adulthood too. Learned this bit from narcissistic relationship advise. Or just know Mother Earth will always love you evident by how much she's provided for you and always kept you attached ;).
This conversation is one of the most challenging ones for me. Because to engage in it only from the intellectual point doesn't cut it. I lived the experiences, I feel every word. It reaches deep and stirs and pulls out things that settled within (or, at least, feels like it).
Hardly anyone can boasts to have a great and loving connection with both mom and dad. Most of us carry pain since childhood from the lack of love. Mother's Love and Father's Love is what we are longing for. Some find it through religion, some by becoming parents themselves and letting their pain healed through unconditional love of a child. Some never do and numb their pain by different addictions and distractions.
I grew up with narcissistic mother and never met my father (they divorced before my birth). I forgave him for not wanting to know me because I believe for him it was an act of self preservation. But it didn't solve anything for me. It seems life will present you with your deep hidden pain externally, through surroundings. My husband is an absentee dad. No matter how much I will try to convince him to spend time with our daughter, he resists. He says it's because of my own missings I'm too sensitive about it. But I don't imagine my child's tears when she sees movie or reads story about involved father. All my love is not enough to lift her pain. The only thing I can do is to make her aware of it and not act subconsciously when choosing a partner ( in the future.)
So I think life is not about avoiding any pain. It's impossible. It's about learning to be aware. We hurt others (and ourselves) only when we act/react automatically, subconsciously, when we are blind (or asleep).
To wake up is to face the pain , breathe with it , allow it to be. We often reject pain. We think there is something wrong with us if we have it. As if it makes us broken . And we want to hide it away from others and ourselves. The pivot way out is to stop wishing it away, stop fighting and resisting it, and then reach inside beyond it. Because there is a place inside that can not be hurt. Unbroken self. From that place we can forgive, we can love, we can live each day anew.
How to do it? I only know what works for me. I say " I welcome this pain (experience, memory... whatever) ". Breathe it in. And keep welcoming it with all my being (letting my mind and thoughts that are objecting know that it's my intention to welcome... regardless).
I wish to thank you Night for your courage in sharing your story. And to all the others in the comment thread (I'm not sure how to tag their names, lol, happy poo, tobi et al.) who are sharing their struggles, and, the ways in which they approach finding healing. Someone made the comment as to how invaluable your words were, and I completely agree.
I too was raised by a very narcissistic mother. She is also a PhD in Psychology, and many years ago, worked professionally as a psychologist. I cannot imagine a single human being ever accessing healing through her, but, that's what she did. For those who don't experience a narc parent, I'm guessing they cannot possibly imagine what it is like. And, good for them, they are very blessed.
I was in my 30's before I even knew what narcissism was. I had no understanding whatsoever. until one day I came across the website of Sheri Schreiber one day, while bored at work between patients. That afternoon changed my life. as I read her material, I experienced great shock, and oddly enough, a lot of relief, when I said out loud, "*$%#!, this woman is describing my mother." What a gut shot it was.
I then spent an incredible amount of time learning about BPD, NPD and the like. I'm sure I've listened to 500+ hours of podcasts on narcissism and read ten books on it. years of emotional work, mentors, learning various approaches to access healing.
I then began to see how I had narcissistic women in my life trying to groom me to be their next husband. In one case, my then business partner admitted, while I was walking shoulder-to-shoulder with her husband at the time, that she was madly in love with me and wanted me to marry her and she would ditch her husband. She actually said this to me, coming out as she was buzzed on alcohol. It was very difficult to understand what she was saying as I thought she was my platonic friend. She then decided to destroy me professionally in that local area, and my practice collapsed entirely.
Rambling here, and sharing this sob story; not my original intention. But I felt compelled to speak up. the undercutting, gaslighting and other behaviors a narcissist is capable of is extremely cruel and true behavioral craziness:
Me at 10yrs of age - extremely shy and very scared of girls and any attention from them. i recall my mother mocking me as we carpooled to school one day....wondering why I didn't have a girlfriend. "honey are you gay!?!? You can tell me, and all of us (in front of 6 kids)." Laughing wildly at me.
Me at 34yrs of age - graduating medical school....(my mother) - "Congratulations honey, I'm so proud. Now remember, always have a solid plan B because otherwise what will you do when this doesn't work out and you fail?"
Me at 34yrs of age - (finally bringing a woman to meet my mother, very rare event) - (as my then girlfriend was showering after arriving at my mom's), "Are you sure this is the woman for you, she's not what I was expecting, I doubt this could go anywhere for you. You should really re-consider honey."
Me at maybe 12yrs old - My mother confiding in me that my father wanted oral sex from her and she was horrified. She wouldn't perform, so instead came to me to share her appalling experience.
That was a lot to share. Tmi, more than likely. My apologies.
So many important takeaways about facing the pain, the emotions, breath work. All of it. So many layers of perspective to adopt through this process as well. Like understanding what a hell it must have been for my father, married to her.
the loss of potential I experienced under my narc mother is incredibly sad to sit with. It is incalculable.
I will be exploring the links, ideas and comments shared here.
Thank you all for your open conversation on this and the intention to get right and move on from it best we may.
What's worse, these distortions are multidimensional. They simultaneously target different areas. And then i attract more of it into my life. When I would meet and become friends with what seem like nice women (mothers like me) I often (thank God, not always)
discover they exhibit narcissistic qualities a lot like my mom and relive my past pain again, pain for their children, feeling of helplessness and realize it's all still there..
But running away from pain is a run in a circle.
I have just learned a new concept (maybe you already know it) and I think it gave me a new perspective on me, my issues. The concept is that we operate from one of the ego states : child , adult or parent. It was in a contest of global reality of being under control (Clean Slate wrote very interesting and thoughtful posts on it on Gab social). But I can definitely see how I can apply it on a small level of an individual life. When I'm in a child ego state, I'm helpless, I need love, support and protection, and I'm incapable of fixing my problems, i continue to live in a hall of funny mirrors. In this state all work is futile or gives very little results. Shifting myself into an adult state is the logical first step. I'm guessing a parent ego state is helpful when it comes to healing our inner wounded child. And here I can give one advice. I see many good parents do this mistake as well (and of course we do it towards our own self). It's a resistance or outright unacceptance toward certain qualities or even personality of a child (or our inner child), when some part of being is viewed as a flaw, an obstacle necessary to be removed. And it's done , of course, out of good intentions. Just like we can't impose our own ideas into how our child should or shouldn't be without causing damage, we can't do it to ourselves. It seems so weird to embrace our shortcomings . But only after truly accepting it and letting it be, there arises a possibility for potential growth and transformation of that "flawed" part of self. After all, you can't force a little seedling to grow any faster it can even after providing everything necessary. It will do it in its own time. Be patient with yourself. And keep in touch if possible. Thank you.
Yes, I too can clearly sense that we share similar dynamics in what we experienced,. The way you encapsulate the distortions being multidimensional, and then experiencing it via other mothers - I can imagine the internal desire I would feel wanting to help the kids they are raising. leading right into your comment about good intentions and being unable to force a little seedling to grow any faster. I think in analogy quite often, so i love your example.
The way in which you witness this play out with other mothers...i experienced it via dating women. It took me so many years to even realize I was in fact meeting many women with toxic leanings in areas. I was trying to prove my worth to them (of course) and realized I that things i thought, felt and the ways in which I responded to them was my pandering to them. I have many examples, but will not go into it as it is not necessary. Suffice it to say, I re-experienced things as well as i began to awaken to my interactions with them once I became well informed on narcissism. Then it became a matter of not seeing all women that way, but to simply spot toxic behavior and and patterns, accept that this woman is exhibiting it and its a chance to make a healthy choice for me, and walk away. The nature of online dating too, phew, what a mess. It has lent itself to an incredible amount of irresponsibility, instant throw away culture, ghosting etc.
I really connect as well with your description of focusing on the negative within ourselves which can lead to a notion we are eternally broken, which adopts a stance very similar to germ theory (ie; its a war, must remove the 'bad'). Versus, say, assimilating and integrating the experience and discharging it. Thereby allowing a reset, or new baseline of sorts, and potential to again spring forth where previously there were roadblocks. I've watched any number of people get caught up in perfectionism as well as they attempt to heal. I get it.
Some good puzzle pieces you shared. Again, thank you. And yes, I hope to converse with you more and will remain in touch. I'm here quite regularly.
I have noticed simply fighting negative beliefs about myself (that I learned as a child) didn't work for me. It was akin to fighting wind mills much like Don Quixote. Then I learned that instead of changing or fixing negative things I let them be, and by practicing a completely new set of thoughts, beliefs and accompanying behavior i would get to a good place. Of course, over the years I tried to prove my mom that her words about me were wrong. I would send her my paintings (because my hands "grew from my butt" and can't do art), sewing projects (same reason of hands origin), growing plants (i "kill things").... Silly me. But what I actually managed to accomplish was change my own limiting beliefs about myself. Now I still have loads of internal garbage that didn't come into light yet and I go day by day simply thinking " I'm not that great at ....", "I better don't do....". But when I notice it, I am fired up to prove myself wrong. I like learning that I'm much more capable. Often it feels like regrowing the wings that got clipped too early.
There is one technique that helped me a lot (and not only me). It's best if someone guides you first, but once familiar with it, one can do it independently I think. I wonder if you came across it (from the sound of it, I believe you might have). This technique was developed in 1989 and written in Core transformation by Andreas (book and accompanied by workshop booklet). It particularly helped me with "not good enough" belief and feelings of loneliness quite a while back. Also I tried it with my daughter a few months ago (though was apprehensive since I'm her mom, but she felt comfortable with me and trusting) when she started verbalizing self doubt and "not good enough" (that really got me worried. Ok, she is 15, so that might have something to do with it, but my fear was that growing up with me might have affected her and some of my past pain leaked into her). Nevertheless, it has been a few months since we did the exercise, and I've noticed she has been consistently positive even when things in school or with friends didn't go well. So I asked if she had reoccurring thoughts that bugged her before. She was surprised to realize it quietly went away.
Perfectionism is such an easy Ego trap. Hard to catch yourself doing it but once pointed out, can't stay blind to it. A good friend can really help with that.
Or just know Mother Earth will always love you evident by how much she's provided for you and always kept you attached ;).There is so much I could write in response to your post with respect to my personal experience of mother/womb/neglect and how misapprehension of that dynamic is paramount to the nature of our suffering. Rather than that, I'll offer this for consideration. Please forgive that this model is couched in particular cultural language. It's just because English doesn't have good alternatives.
Purusha/Prakriti are supposedly the co-equal male/female aspects of Cosmic Being, respectively. They are Inverse of one another, and together Whole. Purusha represents infinite context devoid of content, aka Satguru, and Prakriti represents infinite content devoid of context, aka Maya (Shunyata/Samsara I suppose if you prefer Buddhist terminology, but I like Satguru/Maya as it denotes the male/female aspect whereas the Buddhist terms have a more neutered feel to me). It's interesting that the path of the jnani is sort of a path of negation - not this, not that - and represents Emptiness (Shunyata is a good word there, maybe better than Satguru in that regard), or taking away what is not True. Whereas, the path of bhakti is the path of devotion - giving oneself over completely to what is True.
Thus, as Mother, Maya is simply pure Affirmation. I don't like when it is interpreted as illusion . Again, that's a misapprehension, probably because of the neglect aspect noted above; there is a tendency to see Mother as something that is not there. On the contrary, what is not there is context. Maya is seen as illusory simply because everything goes and thus seems to make no sense. Like, you can't count to infinity.
But! You can invert it to arrive at pure context. It is my contention that the fulcrum of that inversion is the Supreme Self, or Atman, whatever you want to call it. By leveraging that fulcrum , the Whole makes sense. Mother is seen as perfectly loving, in spite of all the pain and suffering in our experience. Folks generally hate to hear it, and I think the new-ageyness of it is more than a bit naive, but you-create-your-own-reality makes sense in that regard.
You want to experience it all? Mother says, "Yes!" always, emphatically and unconditionally.
Reading a book about the goddesses of the world the other day, you see the qualities of the earlier ones are ambivalent, upon which Jung stated, much of the legends and myths of the origin mother (primal waters) that these goddesses often represent, tell of both her good and bad sides. The mother that protects and cares, and she who punishes. A child growing up initially experiences this as a split but growing older learns to see this is a whole, and such stories encourage this process. Later we see goddesses emerge that present all good (e.g. Maria) and bad (Medusa, Sachmet, Anat), and as such dualism and polarization was encouraged with it's denial that causes a bit of a problem for both child and the mother herself, as the unavoidable bad side must somehow be turned positive. Or the reverse. Which does not help seeing another as whole and just creates confusion of the self image. Narcissistic personality disorder to name one of the modern day results, and to return to the topic of this conversation, is it this confusion in which the mother expects to be seen as unconditionally good that frustrates the child who ends up taking the opposing stance of not being able to see her good, loving side?
The denial of the 'invisible hand', the denial of morality being a means to make yourself a better person primarily. The denial of conversation, explanation while expecting someone to do things simply means you already know it's wrong. All denial causes splitting. All lies and deceit, given or received, creates the walls through which reality is stomped down into a confusing little box of darkness.
So, it appears to me, we are always in search for wholeness but many do not recognize that search. My personal story involves the attention of many such people in a deeply self defeating manner. Becoming a naturally drawn to me by those searching for wholeness, first turning me into an internal object but societal pressures and personal habits, guilt and shame, reject fusion with their own identity resulting in projection of all those feelings upon this internal object and vomiting it out again, now becoming a transference object for their crazy split sides, creating a highly delusional shared image of this character.
in ELI5 terms, crazy kid is jealous of kid that makes sense, tries to imitate but fails and thus starts attributing his nonsense to the sane kid.
What does it mean to listen intently?
Video Title, Youtube: "Use This Psychotherapy Technique To End All Of Your Arguments | Jordan Peterson at Cambridge"
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In applying this technique you also get practice at focusing on YOUR reactions a-la-#5.
As a bonus, Peterson isn't so bad an option when it comes to #3; role models.
The caveat is that this technique won't work so well on people acting in bad faith, since they will resist every attempt to agree that you understand their perspective (or even could). However, knowing this could help you determine what kind of person you're dealing with.
And don't forget to breathe to get your physiology calmed down! Eiriu Eolas, "Growth of Knowledge" indeed.
In the absence of 'presence of mind' people become defensive and will act in what seems like bad faith because they have no other mechanism to work with.
Thank you for your excellent comment. Very thought provoking!
I'm also learning that when a long drawn out tragedy has ended, it's not really the end, as the wounds are so deep and the programming of life for me was, well.. It is just a series of crises, nothing else.
I found that I expected the worst and stayed in a negative state of mind, so so damaging..
I was in a crisis situation for 8-10 years without real time support from any members of my family. I had no break from this situation for this period of time. This was partly due to their "being choked out by the weeds" of money, physical pleasure etc.
They chose the high life when I was left to care for my dying parent. Of course I made my mistakes, too many to count, regrets too many to mention regarding this situation . .
So of course they are forgiven in heart because my brother especially is a truly loving soul, with an amazing intellect, an Great mind.
Unfortunately he fell for a woman who although a good person on the outside, was beautiful but weak minded, materialistic and with the opposite values of our family.
And the last thing she wanted to do was to help me and my mum, she unintentionally drove our family apart.
I know neither of them intended to hurt, but the damage was very real.
Our family were very close before, they could be seen as one of the very rare kinds of loving parents. Honestly. So I was Very Naive and thought most people in the world are like them!!!!!
I was totally shocked at how unloving a lot of folks and parents can be because my experience is so the opposite. My father had died when I was a teen, and my mum had a massive heart attack ten years later which would have finished most people off, she had no quality of life after this until she passed away 17 years later. She was the personification of love, a truly rare soul.
My brother moved and worked abroad years ago before my mum got sick, but for the 17 years duration of the illness, even though he helped greatly in the very beginning, he stayed out of the country.
Because mum was not from my country, all of our relatives lived abroad and of course little me was the only one to help.
This situation nearly led to my absolute destruction lol, I mean it. I can only describe it as total exhaustion. I didn't stand up for myself because of a sense of worthlessness.. I was always treated as lower status, the lesser "artist" type, with no money etcetera, especially by my brothers wife who is very posh, has a huge sense of entitlement which really triggers me!
The only thing that stopped this downward slope was prayer, just wish I'd have done it sooner.
This helped me and my mum, finally good things and people started to happen and we managed to claw it back before she passed, as much as possible , but only with great help. I'm still working on this negative programming and finding it hard to assimilate the damage done to my mother and myself, being isolated and left alone in such a desperate situation . So many of us have been left alone to care for loved ones like this, and the results are devastating. And these relationships with baser types of woman, and a good man falling for them.
I'm sure this may sound familiar to some here lol.
Got a long way to go I have..
I'm learning that to be in a state of heightened nerves, worry and alertness for such a long time can do serious damage to our whole systems long term.
I know these circumstances would have been really awful even if there was help.. Still it would have been pretty soul destroying..
In my mind is it okay to distance ourselves from people who are very involved in the exacerbation of these situations? Especially when they are oblivious to the damage they caused.
I've noticed that being too closely associated with negative people brings more serious troubles, which I've had enough of. Also it seams that more than ever it is important to keep our environments clear of negative people and the energies they can bring with them? No matter how sentimental I am, they do not bring good outcomes or positive consequences in my life . For once in life I realised that my partner and I deserve better! And so I thank them with love for their lessons and let them go.. I put distance there now.
They just seam to get defensive when I'm trying to be honest. There isn't any point sometimes it seams... It's just banging the head on something. To move on is okay in some situations, depending on the dynamics, but still to have forgiveness in heart.
However no matter how damaged I am, and more importantly how much damage it caused my mother, I know that I have to let go of feelings of anger and resentment, as this will just be very destructive.
Thanks for your help π
I watched a docu style movie a while ago ("what the bleep do we know") . I found a few things helpful. One of them is an explanation how our body produces chemicals and gets addicted to it. So if one gets , let's say, angry often, that person's body is addicted to anger chemicals and will seek out the opportunities to trigger that anger. When you notice this, you'll find it easier not to get pulled into their drama.
P.S. sorry for "laconic" comment. Didn't see your long post.
Seriously your help is invaluable.
Also in response to your last comment, I know what you mean about the putting off of what we have to face or do, the weird excuses I make, All too familiar. I guess on some level I had to experience these lessons for reasons not understood, I do know that staying connected to this pain and facing this sorrow, as in a positive sense, it keeps me focused on the work, and keeps my thoughts focused on the goal it seams. The determination to keep these thoughts out away from the negative is massive, because they just feed the ones who are behind these attacks on predominantly my mum because of her pure heart in my mind . So I try to remember, let the pain guide me as she is also my greatest strength, and I always never give in because of her. In this sense it is healing, to remember the relentless love of mum. It keeps my faith too ... Anyway bless thanks again. I will check out the documentary.
When it comes to movie, you might not agree on everything (I rarely do), but it's entertaining and visual effects are quite helpful. [Link]
My daughter is very loving and kind. And I think I can relate to you when you want to protect your pure soul mom. I can be all chill and cool when it comes to me. But when someone crosses a line with my daughter, I have an inner tiger that spurs out instantly ready to fight.
This famous Serenity prayer is my reminder to not be passive (as I would prefer)
God grant me the serenity
To accept the things I cannot change;
Courage to change the things I can;
And wisdom to know the difference.
Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
As it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make things right
If I surrender to His Will;
So that I may be reasonably happy in this life
And supremely happy with Him
Forever and ever in the next.
Amen.
It's priceless. KEEP GOING - see my smile, feel the camaraderie abound, and in love with yourself, take that long road...
Je vous salue!!!
Joey Tavares Thank you !!.. don't know what to say sometimes lol I'm not very good at this! Thank you for your smile and encouragement and I'm very grateful to you. I sang a little tune due to your last comment, haven't done that for a while, bless Same right back to you πWarmly received, well met...
Excellent information you shared. Ibogaine is another thing worth considering. It is used for similar reasons as that of ayahuasca. They are typically offered in similar circles (Ibogaine typically harder to find) as many traveling to South America can discover. I've yet to come across Ibogaine myself but with reading your post here today, perhaps I need to seek it out now. Aya can be dark and pretty wild from my experience. But aya is also prepared differently and in different ratios depending on who does the preparation.
By the way, regarding Ibogaine, and why it attracted so much attention - it is said that it is so powerful it can even cure heroine addiction in 1 or 2 doses. I personally know one person who can vouch for that. Incredible.
I can also share that peyote is helpful for dealing with PTSD, depression, trauma. There's a huge peyote field in Northern Mexico (SW of Monterey) if anyone wishes to go. I would happily join others and guide people to the peyote preserve. You can camp there, its in the middle of nowhere. very calm and serene place to journey with a very powerful plant medicine. This is where the Huichol indians gather their peyote (though they journey somewhere else). I was there at the preserve in 2008 and happened to run into a real peyote medicine man on about my third day in the desert. He showed me how much they ingest, which was way more than I had been taking. I couldn't believe it. Peyote is a much much different experience than aya, btw. here's an article with much detail on the preserve - [Link]
P.S. - if you travel through Real de Catorce...that place is wild, haunted, very spiritual. I recall spending most my first night there wide awake hearing all sorts of wild things. Lol.
For anyone in the Eastern U.S., or anyone who wishes to travel and access plant medicine, there is also Blue Deer center in Catskills NY area. Eliott Cowan heads up that effort. He spent I think 28 years going through the traditional Huichol Indian (the tribe in Mexican who are the peyote people) system to learn it all. I believe they are making use of peyote there. [Link]
Thank you again for your post.
There's also a tanka right there where you can camp. One night about 25 wild horses were drinking from the tanka when I spotted them. I didn't know they were horses at first because I was so altered, talking t o the stars in the gorgeous night sky. I ran towards them (not sure what I was thinking, lol) and they all looked up at me. Huge horses. Then I realized these were actual, large horses and that i was running towards them....snapped to. Wild times.
Joey Tavares πΉHappy poo, Linda May, GCO - smiles today abound. TX. Sent with love...
Toi pareillement π
GCO I am quite certain you had a very good idea as you signed on the dotted line before... incarnation.
(5lives in UNO - YOUR life's journey)
Joey Tavares MerciiiCela fait de nombreuses années que nous nous connaissons ici sur site-web SOTT, Linda May - agréable de « voir » te sourire, encore une fois, chère Amie de l'Òme!!!
Toi pareillement π
GCO I am quite certain you had a very good idea as you signed on the dotted line before... incarnation.
(5lives in UNO - YOUR life's journey)
Joey Tavares ah ben!!Avec des gens comme toi dedans - ouais-ouais-ouais, belle dame: la vie est belle!!!
Que la VIE est bellissima π―
Each and every poster (Night, Happy Poo, Linda May, ALL OF YOU...) has gifted me this day and others as I've meandered through shared experiences and my own life journey.
If you can see the love in this laconic (thank you, Night - I had to look that up... and I'm glad I did!!!) post, then you see reflected from mine in thine the Divine we all share in Trine...
Joey Tavares π₯Bellissimaπ©I don't know where you are...
And only in Spirit who you are...
Yet I'm so dearly grateful my journey crossed paths with yours.
Joey Tavares sucked dans le b.a.g.e.l. πhahahahahhahahah!!!
bien fait, bien rencontrΓ©!!!
with love...
Thanks for helping me, with your reply
B' Schwartz, Night and Joey, and all I say "Hi"!
You made me feel happy, (but not when pooing),
Thanks for the advice it helps what I'm doing
So I write this poem and kind of a prayer
It helps me so much to know you are there
When I feel down you inspired me to rhyming
And the answer's inside say now keep the light shining
I ask the universe, can you guide me, back to the place
Where I can find peace of mind, gratitude and grace
As we now, find that we are aware
Of betrayal by loved ones, who pretended to care.
So I try finding inside what makes my soul sing
And welcome the knowledge, and love that this brings
With the strength, of our hearts desire
And then we can take our spirits higher
With the love of a good rendition
With the truth, it's the ammunition
To share all of her love and wisdom
I still hear her sing, when I care to listen
I prayed to remember the darkest of nights
As the pain always guides me, back to the light
She said open your heart to hear God's Wisdom
Because it is He who really fights!
I say, I'm so tired of the people in this place
Who destroy others dreams, for their own selfish ways
And they cost so much, always we end up paying!
And the others they always, believed what they're saying!
So I ask, where did it all begin?
In these situations, who really wins?
And she say
Well follow the money...
See those who benefit,
The most with their cunning
And again and again
We ended up paying
But now things will change
As I hear what he's saying
And the answer is, stand up for yourself!
Don't let them keep taking your wealth, (and destroying your health)
Instead, find your creativity and just let it shine
Stay positive now, and you will hold the line!
I say, they always do things at my expense
But thank you now, for the defence
I admit it was me too, 'cause I let it happen
And needed to learn, this painful lesson
So he say it's time to forgive
Yourself and the others
Unless you want to re - live
All these bad experiences
And their interference
De clutter your spirit
With the good rhymes of clearance
Discern who is good, and who does not merit
Go down the rabbit hole and send in the ferret
See the truth behind each situation
And then you'll not buy, when they try to sell it.
She said train your mind, so it cannot be defeated
And these bad experiences will not be repeated!
Say goodbye to all that's not bringing good things
And listen instead to the songs that I sing
I said then, can we erase and rewind?
I remember they said, things can be re-written
One day I dream
we can turn back the tide
And by this beast then, we will not be bitten.
If we could borrow, for a better tomorrow
Gods energy, so we can do it right!
As it is borrowed, the healing of sorrow
So I thank you, forever for you I will fight!
With gratitude grace, trust and faith
I thank you for good thoughts that keep me safe
Things will get better right down to the letter
So thank you for helping in every way!
... And thanks also for reading if you did today πX
My favourite line, oh sweet Happy Poo: "Go down the rabbit hole and send in the ferret"
Reply to your riposte written with love and clicked in kinship...
The mighty Pacifist Ocean harbors sharks. They find it a comfortable place, it is water after all, and there is a lot of 'food' (for the sharks) there.
No matter what you (the food?) and the ocean do.
And that is a problem.
Maybe that problem will go away, eventually?
ned,
out