objective health james corbett interview
This week our resident health experts Elliot Overton and Doug DiPasquale interview James Corbett, an award-winning investigative journalist. In this interview, James discusses various topics surrounding his most recent documentary series titled "Who Is Bill Gates".

James created the The Corbett Report website in 2007 as an outlet for independent critical analysis of politics, society, history, and economics. Since then he has written, recorded and edited thousands of hours of audio and video media for the website, including a podcast and several regular online video series.

Join us on this episode of Objective:Health for an indepth discussion on Bill Gates and our current "pandemic".

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The Corbett Report

"Who Is Bill Gates?" Documentary

Why Big Oil Conquered The World

Was There Foreknowledge of the Plandemic?

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Elliot: Hello everyone, and welcome to this week's edition of Objective: Health. I am your host today, my name is Elliot, and I am joined in the studio with Doug.

Doug: Hello.

Elliot: In this week's edition, we have a very special guest. Today, we have an award winning journalist named James Corbett. James Corbett started the Corbett Report website in 2007 as an outlet for independent, critical analysis of politics, society, history and economics. Since then he has written, recorded and edited thousands of hours of audio and video media for the website, including a podcast and several online regular video series. James Corbett, welcome to the show, thanks for coming on.

James: Thank you for having me, it's a pleasure to be here.

Elliot: You have done a lot of work over the years, you have been tirelessly shining light on the lies and machinations of the elites and educating people on the truth essentially. You have done fantastic work over the years and recently you did an extensive four-part series on Bill Gates. I think it's particularly important at this moment in time with everything that has been going on, especially over the past couple of months.

It has gained a lot of attention online, we have covered it on SOTT and it has been very well received. First of all, could you tell us a little bit about yourself? What took you down the rabbit hole so-to-speak, so that you were interested in sharing the information that you do?

James: I guess if we are going to put it in terms of the propagandists, I was radicalised by the internet. {laughter} But in more realistic terms, I think I had an experience that I think is probably similar to a lot of the people in the audience which is to say that I started to discover independent news and information on the internet about 13 or 14 years ago that really started to question some beliefs and ideas that I had about the world.

The more I started to look into it, the more I found there was something to backup all of these crazy claims. I started researching 9-11 which was something that I had not even begun to consider questioning when it actually happened. By 2006 there was enough information online and it was persistent enough and being recommended enough by the YouTube algorithm and other such things that eventually I started to click on things that I found interesting.

I started looking things up for myself and discovering there was actually some bear there and once you start along that process, I think it's probably similar for a lot of people. I started to become more and more interested and I started researching over here, and researching this over there, and before you knew it I had my own website which was something I never in a million years thought I was going to do.

Yet, here I am and 13 years after starting the website I've reached tens of millions of people conservatively just through my YouTube videos alone, let alone the podcasts and everything else that I do. I know that no one out there can possibly know every one, so what if I'm a controlled opposition gatekeeper that was secretly put in by the CIA to whatever?

I know personally that I'm not and that speaks to the power that we all have in this limited window of time that we have to actually break through the information control paradigms that have been erected carefully over the course of many many decades and centuries. We have this brief window of opportunity to break through that, so that's basically the core reason why I'm here and doing what I do. Unfortunately, we are seeing that window of opportunity starting to close and just at a time that I think things are starting to come to a head. The Gates documentary and everything else I do is just trying to ring that alarm bell about what's coming.

Elliot: Looking back at the old material that you were doing, a lot of it had been focused on geopolitics, but it's interesting how when someone does start to uncover truths and the deception that has been going on for such a long time, it inevitably leads down many different paths. Like you've said many times, once you become interested in seeking the truth and trying to find out what is true then it inevitably opens up many doors into areas that you weren't necessarily interested in previously.

Looking at your recent work on Bill Gates and public health, it's quite fascinating how when you piece the puzzle pieces together how everything seems to fit in such a consistent way. It would be really good if you could give a brief overview of what made you want to look into Bill Gates and what you have uncovered and how you think that that is important in our current time and day.

James: That's an interesting way to frame it because I think you're right. What is often characterised as crackpot conspiracy theorising is, I think, fundamentally about the study of how power functions in our society. That's all it is. It's not some crazy spooky project or something. It's just what in any other era would have been seen as trying to analyse what people in positions of power are doing.

Of course, you have to be ridiculed and denigrated as some sort of crazy fringe conspiracy theorist for daring to even suggest there are rich and powerful people, let alone that they conspire. It's self-evidently nonsense and so once people break through that mental conditioning that has raised - the Pavlovian trigger word "conspiracy theorist" - once they break through that and see that this is simply about how power is operating in our society, I think people can start to see that all the pieces do fit together.

You may be particularly interested in geopolitics, but of course that is going to impinge on all of these other different subjects that all come together. At the beginning of this year even I had no intention whatsoever in doing an in depth study of Bill Gates and the field of global public health. That wasn't my research priority at all, but of course reality, or at least the controlled reality, has intervened and forced me along this path.

As you say, it is interesting that the pieces do come together to create a picture that in some ways - I realised standing on the other side of this chasm, sitting here in the middle of 2020 rather than the beginning of 2020 - I can see now that the picture that is being painted by something like this Gates documentary that I've put together is essentially the picture that I have been working on for the past 13 years.

It's just that now all of those pieces that I have been detailing over here and detailing over there now fit together quite... I don't want to say nicely because of course that is not quite the right adverb, but you understand what I mean. Really, what this does is connect some of the dots that I've been seeing for a very long time; between the field of public health let's say, and the field of biometric identification, the technocracy, the police state, genetic-level control, as well as the old paradigm of terrorism and the terrorist boogeyman.

All of those things are being mixed and swirled into this new paradigm that is being identified right now, the paradigm of biosecurity, which obviously reaches right down into the core of who we are as human beings and how we operate in the world, and essentially normal human activity is being pathologized right now. Just being in the company of other people can be a dangerous activity if we tell you there is a spreading pathogen of some sort that you could be an asymptomatic carrier of, and everyone must lock down when we flip the switch or push the button.

That is the world that we are being pushed into right now. It obviously requires conditioning for the public to be led along that path and controlled in that manner. So I think what we are seeing - and in fact what we have been told outright since the beginning of this crisis - is that we are going to be led through a series of essentially Pavlovian behavioural conditioning experiences where we're going to be locked down and there's going to be a lot of hype and there's going to be release. Then, we are going to be locked down again and then there's going to be a release, and then we are going to be locked down again.

We are going to get used to this pattern until of course the vaccine is going to be the saviour that will allow us to continue with the world, but the world will never be the same. We are being conditioned to the new normal. I'm sure everyone in the audience has heard every step of what I've just said there, all of which would have sounded utterly ridiculous at the beginning of the year. Now, for a lot of people unfortunately it sounds "well of course, that's the way it has to function". That is a remarkable propagandistic technique that's been deployed on the public over the past several months. I really do hope that I can do something to break the conditioning that we are going through right now so that people do not simply roll over and accept it.

Doug: It's interesting, it seems like things have been leading up to this for a very long time. A lot of the times we hear about, or research things like the GMOs, the fluoride, the fake food and all these kinds of things that seems to work into this conditioning as well. There's the media aspect of it and the social conditioning that goes on, but it seems like we are also being primed from another side of things with nutrition and our lives are conditioning us in a different way. I don't know if you had any comment on that?

James: I think I understand what you are driving at. All of those things are of a piece, they all fit together because in a sense the overall agenda such as can be identified, is to replace the real with the fake. We get that not only in terms of news and information, of course we get fake news and fake information from the establishment that wants to condition us into certain ways of thinking and behaving, but we also get that in terms of the food we are consuming and what passes for healthcare.

Everything else in our world is increasingly being swapped out; the real is being swapped out for the fake and we are being told that the fake is superior. For example, just last week on my weekly news series New World Next Week that I do with James Evan Pilato of MediaMonarchy.com we were talking about biomilq and how Gates is heavily invested in this new idea to replace breast milk with biomilq, milk with a Q, made in a lab. What could go wrong?

That's just one example of this. Of course we see it in so many different realms, but especially in food. I think it's easy to identify there. They're obviously starting with the genomic tinkering and inserting drugs into your cornflakes, for example. How are you going to do that? You genetically engineer the cornflake to express this certain gene that will provide this daily medicinal intake for you. All of this craziness that sounds total science-fiction-fantasy is coming true.

I am starting to see that again, it seems like an agenda of replacing reality with fake. There are a number of reasons for that, I think. The easiest reason to understand, the simplest way to understand that, is the profit motive. It's the one that most people can instantly see and identify and in some way conceptually understand. If you have reality with this abundant earth that can grow things out of the ground spontaneously where everything we need comes from what's provided to us, we don't need all of this fake, artificial construct of civilisation. It's nice, obviously. I enjoy the creature comforts, but we don't need it to live.

Then, once they start swapping out the real for the fake and they put the GM terminator seeds into the crops and things like this we can't just gow our own food, all of these things are being enabled by this technology and then we are being sold these fake foods as real foods that can be monopolised by the handful of seed companies and farmer manufacturers and what have you, that's when we start to see that there is definitely a consolidation of power and control that comes from this.

The first order effective of which is that it consolidates money in the hands of these people, but I don't think that the ultimate agenda here is about money, it's just that that's the easiest and quickest way that people can understand what's happening. Ultimately, I think that this is about total control. You can totally and completely control the world if you can take the real, messy, actual reality that's out there which no one can control, and we create an artificial reality that we can completely control, and we can control everything you do within that artificial reality. I think that's really what this agenda is driving at: total control.

Elliot: That's something that the average person finds very difficult to conceptualise, right? It's so far detached from their perception of reality. They do not seek total power, they do not seek total control and so humans in general find it very difficult to understand that there are individuals, possibly psychopathological individuals in a psychological sense, for whom that is their main aim. It makes perfect sense.

I've heard you speak before about how money is simply a means of getting more control. It's not the money, the money is not the end. These people have hundreds of billions, they have more money than any one in the world and yet they still want more. You have to ask the question: what is it that's driving that?

You said something interesting before about how there is this new normal and how people have, at the flick of the switch, come to accept these extremely draconian measures and who are giving away their personal power or what little they had of it, to these authoritarian measures. Did that surprise you to see this? With all the stuff that you know and all of the manipulation that's happened over the past decades, hundreds of years even, has people's response to this pandemic, how much they were willing to give over their power, almost overnight?

James: Yes. Yes it did. This is coming from someone who has been deeply studying this for the last 13 years. I do a regular series on propaganda and have been examining the way that it functions on the public mind. I know about Edward Bernays and Walter Lipmann and all the people who for centuries now have been trying to manipulate public consciousness and steer the crowd in one direction or another.

I know about these techniques and how they are being refined and yet it still amazes me, flabbergasts me, just how far we've come in the past few months. I think that's part of it, the rapidity with which this happened. I could understand the changeover of the public consciousness taking place over the course of months or years. I get that, but just in the course of weeks? It was a process of a few weeks that the entire public consciousness seemed to shift over from "there's some sort of thing spreading in China" to suddenly "we have to shut down the world economy. You will kill your grandma if you leave your house."

I wanted to believe, I suppose, that people were not quite willing to immediately change over their thinking just based on whatever the talking heads on television were telling them. I was evidently incorrect about that, at least to the extent that we can gauge public opinion accurately from what we are seeing on the idiot box itself. Will it ever tell us the truth about how much people are really going along with and how many people are really dissenting from the prevailing norm? Of course not. So, we have to take that into account. But to the extent that we can gauge from our experiences in the outside world, yes, a lot of people seem to be going along with this and that is really disappointing.

The other thing that still flabbergasts me is that some of the people even in the independent media space and people who supposedly, theoretically style themselves as anti imperialist or whatever, have gone along with this and they have been quick to denounce anyone who would question the validity of these noble scientists and the wonderful doctors who are our heroes and saviours who are doing this wonderful work.

Yes, well I'm not really questioning the medical profession, or at least doctors in general. I'm sure a lot of them mean well, but there are a lot of scientists who are dissenting from this. What about this guy over here? What about this guy over there? "No! We must lock down, we must do it." It doesn't seem to have bothered these people who you would think would be against a lot of governmental authoritarianism and overreach, let alone the corporate going-along with this entire scheme. You would think they would start to question this at some point, even by now when the millions of death and the tidal wave of death has failed to arrive. You would think they would question it, but no, there's still a lot of kickback from certain circles. That has been surprising to me as well. I guess I'll have to readjust my mental calculator when it comes to these types of operations and how they can function.

Despite it all, I like to believe that there are a lot of people who are perhaps not out on the streets protesting or making noise about it, but are not happy with the way things are going, or at least sense that there is something wrong about this. I am trying to reach those people because I can tell just from my own metrics and how many people are contacting me and how much interaction I'm getting, that a lot of people have suddenly found "Oh, wow! There is this independent media that's saying different things online. I'll check them out". I've had a lot of that feedback. That is hopeful. I will try to use that to balance out the dread that I receive from thinking about how quickly people have fallen for this propaganda.

Elliot: It seems like if there is any silver lining to this whole situation it's that it has almost acted like a 9-11 event, in my mind anyway. You have had this massive shift in probably many people's perception of the world and it's actually allowed them, or forced them to start questioning things. They may not have previously done that.

On the other hand, it's very surprising to see - and I didn't like to see it either - a large proportion of the people seeming going along with this whole plan. Maybe there's more people than we know of who have been questioning things and stepping outside the box and that is potentially going to snowball, I hope. That's the main silver lining that I can see of this whole thing.

In your documentary you cover many different things, you go into the history of and the ideology which drives Gates and perhaps the people who are also pushing this technology, the biometric ID, the vaccinations, the microchipping and all of this kind of stuff that was the topic of conspiracy theory not long ago. There were people in the early 2000's who were talking about microchips being part of the long term agenda and people could just dismiss that as conspiracy theory. I did back then! I was thinking "well, it's never going to get to that point".

But, as we see with this corona stuff and many other seemingly tangentially related events that have occurred, this has all closed in on the very real possibility that people will accept the kind of control which involves microchipping which involves contact tracing. All of this kind of stuff seems to be rolled out by the day.

With the information that you've collected regarding biometric ID systems and all of these high level technologies which are potentially going to be implemented to enforce greater levels of control, how likely do you think it is - considering what we have said just previously how people have accepted these measures will - that people will accept much greater levels of control with regard to the biometric stuff that you've been talking about?

James: If we look at what has happened in the last few months as essentially a compliance test then I think anyone who has failed the test of the past few months and is unwilling to admit that to themselves now will likely be invested for the long-term in wherever this agenda is going. It becomes more and more difficult to separate your identity from this entire agenda that you're selling yourself over to once you start to get on board with it.

"I'll wear the mask and I better lock down. They've told me that it's spreading and I don't want to hurt anyone so I better do this, I better do that." At the point where you can see self evidently that all of the predictions were wrong, that this is complete hype and that this is not happening in the way that they told you and you refuse to confront that cognitive dissonance that you're feeling, at that point they own your brain in a sense. It's like Big Brother in 1984.

I also get sick of hearing people talk about 1984 and Orwell, but again it is the perfect analogy and unfortunately Big Brother's goal was not to simply put the boot on the face and control people that way, it was to make people love Big Brother. Unfortunately, people who have gone along with the agenda this far are going to love the Gateses and the Faucis and whoever else is in that position of authority. They are the saviours who are going to swoop down and tell you what you need. If that's a coronavirus vaccine, if that's contact tracing then that's what's going to happen and we need that.

Unfortunately, this has become politicised, at least certainly in the US. I'm obviously a Canadian in Japan, I'm watching from a distance, but I certainly see how this is being politicised. There is a left and right divide in the political spectrum over this health issue. In a sense, maybe that's good because it means about half of the US population at least will be against this agenda, at least for the time being. Unfortunately, it means that half of the population are just going to go along with it without even beginning to think about questioning it because "if I question it I'll be one of them. I'll be a crazy right-winger. I don't like that so I'd better think this group orthodoxy."

It's amazing. That's one of the interesting things about this. Again, I've certainly studied the politicisation of everything in how the left/right divide has been used as divide and conquer to control the public for a long time, but still the extent to which it has been deployed in this particular psychological operation to keep people at each other's throats is amazing. It really is amazing to behold some of this propaganda and the way it's manifesting.

So to answer your question, yes I think unfortunately people who have already started to invest their identity in this entire biosecurity paradigm are going to find it more and more difficult to put the brakes on it and say "I was wrong and we should not be going in this direction". That's why this is the precise moment in time where we need to reach people as much and as hard and as fast as possible, because we have this brief moment of respite - before the full second wave narrative hits and all of whatever craziness that is going to hit eventually comes - where people can see that the first wave was all hype and that it did not at all pan out the way that we were being told. This is the moment where people might have that moment of "Ok, I was wrong. I won't let that happen again." The longer it goes on, the harder it will be to reach that point.

Doug: It's interesting. I think that's why your work and the kind of stuff that we do as well is so important, because I think that you're right, there seem to be the authoritarian follower types who are really more comforted than anything else by these measures, because they think that it's protecting them and making them safe and they're not questioning it at all. But you do have other people and I think that everybody has their own different lines in the sand of things that they will cross.

Like you were saying, "put on a mask" "ok, fine I'll put on a mask" even though they may not necessarily believe the narrative, but I think that putting the message out the way that you do is going to reach those people who maybe haven't quite reached their line yet, or they've reached it but they haven't been spurred to action yet. For them to know that there are other people out there who do think along those lines or are at least looking at things from a more wide perspective, I think it is really important to actually reach those people and let them know that they're not alone and that they're not crazy.

James: That was certainly my intention in creating the documentary and that's actually why I ordered it in the way that I did, starting out simply by documenting the very documentable, undeniable takeover of the global public health sphere by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation; the monopolization of that sphere.

Again, perfectly documentable. It has even been talked about by the Lancet and the WHO and others have talked about this for years so nothing to alarm anyone there, at least in terms of "This is crazy theory stuff" before venturing deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper into the agenda, because I think a lot of people need to be eased into it in that way. I guess others probably respond better to being confronted with it, but at any rate this is the way that I structured it to hopefully draw people into the story so they see there is a much, much bigger story than what we are seeing on the surface level.

Really, if I had my ultimate dream come true it would be that I would ask people to watch Why Big Oil Conquered the World before they watch the Bill Gates documentary because for people who have seen that previous documentary, that goes through essentially what I think of as the prequel to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which was the Rockefeller Foundation and how that grew and how it functioned and how they took their enormous resource-wealth that they accrued from monopolizing the energy resources of the 19th and 20th century, parlaying that into social, political, educational and medical power and using that power to consolidate more and more control in their own hands.

I think that's essentially the template that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is using. I think you see that historical parallel if you're familiar with that story first. Unfortunately, not a lot of people are familiar with that story. Ultimately, I think it is of a piece and that's why I think of these almost as two complementary documentaries.

Elliot: That's an excellent point. It's very hard for people to get their head around the idea that a well-doing philanthropist in the public eye who is presented as a superhero in child's cartoons actually does not necessarily have their best interests at heart. In fact, he's potentially ideologically possessed in such a way that their decisions are probably detrimental to a very large portion of the population. Again, for many people there is a contrast between the facts and the public perception which is managed and financed by that very individual, there is such a divide that it's very difficult to break that. It's very difficult to get over that, right?

You mentioned about the second-wave briefly there. Do you think despite all of the dissenting voices, especially some very well known scientists - you have got Luc Montagnier who is a previous Nobel Prize winner and he has basically come right out and said outright that he's pretty sure it's manmade. There's other evidence which is going towards a line of "did it escape from a lab?" Have you looked into that? What do you think about that? Do you know of any scientists who have come out and also aired that kind of opinion? What do you think about the Coronavirus?

James: Yes, I have absolutely looked into that. There was a Questions for Corbett video that I did, Was There Foreknowledge of the Pandemic, I believe is the name of the video where I looked specifically at some of the clues along that trail and clearly, there are enough cookie crumbs there to lead us down a path that could be fruitful for exploration.

One of the things that I think is interesting and worthy of research, whether or not it is related to this story, is the gain of function research that is being done in the bioweapons laboratories, under the guise of defence of course because it's always about defense. "What if the bad guys do it?", or "what if nature naturally weaponizes this Coronavirus? Well, we have to be prepared for it so we have to go out and actively create the most deadly pathogen we can in order to develop a vaccine against it ahead of time." Or something along those lines. "Oops, we forgot to develop the vaccine."

There are many, many ways that could play out, obviously. I think the bioweapons industry and the entire ecosystem and economics around that is something that is really fascinating, and has not been explored nearly enough. I think there was almost the point at which - perhaps with the anthrax story in 2001 - there was going to be some closer looks at that entire weapons research program and what it's really doing and if this is even legal under international treaties. No, it isn't but it all for defence, honest.

There was almost a sense where that could have really broken through but it didn't and unfortunately David Kelly and others ended up killing themselves in the woods and things along those lines. There's a lot of history there, a lot of mysterious deaths of microbiologists last decade, a lot of things that we could be looking into. Does that pertain to the Coronavirus specifically? I don't know.

There are a lot of conflicting opinions out there and I am not a virologist, I am not studied in these things. I am just putting out information that I find and letting people come to their own conclusions. Personally, I think if this was some sort of bioweapon that escaped from Wuhan lab or was placed in Wuhan, my money would be on that this is an accidental release rather than some sort of deliberate one precisely because this is a mild, mild flu essentially. This is not a killer bio weapon, like some sort of deadly super-aerosolized Ebola or something. This is not killing people en masse so I don't think there's a strategy behind it other than perhaps to kick up an international fuss that would lead to the point at which we have arrived at, which was war gamed out in Event 201.

For me, Event 201 remains, if anything, the smoking gun of this that does point to the fact that clearly there was some sort of foreknowledge of this. At the very least it shows that there was the infrastructure laid out for them to jump on anything, any sort of new pathogen or anything that comes along no matter how deadly or undeadly. They were going to jump on it and use it to drive this agenda. I think that's why I think that's so interesting and that points to some of the key players in what's playing out right now.

Elliot: It was quite amazing to see that you had world leaders who originally came out with a specific stance and then almost overnight it was like they went into a meeting and then they completely twisted or switched their position on it. I'm thinking of Boris Johnson in the UK. We know he is just a mouthpiece, but ultimately he publicly said that the UK was going to go with a herd immunity model, they were not going to close down, they were going to follow the same science as what Sweden did. Then, something changed and no one knows what that is, but something changed and all of a sudden they locked down.

So it makes you wonder, what do they know about this virus? I agree, it doesn't seem that it's a killer bio weapon. Is it having some other kind of effects?

James: That's the kind of, I won't say imponderable because of course we can ponder it, but it is the kind of thing that we just don't know at this point. Will this combine with something in the future to weaponize it essentially? There's a million different possibilities and who knows what the leaders are being told behind closed doors.

At least the ostensible reason for the switch of, say, Johnson and Trump and others was in fact the work of the Covid-19 research team at Imperial College which was predicting hundreds of thousands of deaths in the UK, and millions in the US. Of course, that has been completely discredited at this point from the completely discredited Niall Ferguson. But it was supposedly convincing enough to these world leaders for them to suddenly jump on that bandwagon and for Trump to be championing the "operation warp speed - let's get the vaccine". There's clearly something else going on here.

But as I would hope that a lot of your audience knows by now it's not these political puppets who are calling the shots. They are being pulled by their strings and who are the real string pullers and what's their real agenda? That's really the question that matters.

Elliot: We're coming up on our time now, James. What are working on? I know it's probably a silly question because you are continually working on things and you are continually tracking reality and trying to piece together the puzzle pieces with whatever information we have, but ultimately you have done several of these really big documentaries. These are very much professional level documentaries that you have done and they are really excellent and I would recommend all of our listeners if they haven't gone to your website Corbettreport.com to definitely go there because it is just such a rich repository of information. What are you looking at, is there anything that you are working on now? Are there any projects? What's going on for you?

James: Shorter term, I am going to be looking at the mandatory vaccinations and how that is going to be obviously the first order effect of what we are seeing right now. Then, I also wanted to start looking into vaccine technologies because what we think of as vaccines is evolving into something very different that I don't think the public really understands right now. The future, the things that are being worked on right now, or at least that are being told to us in the medical journals, is quite chilling if you think of it from the perspective of someone who wants to control society rather than someone who wants to help society. That's definitely part of this.

Longer term, I have a lot of documentary projects in mind that I've been wanting to work on for a very long time. Like a followup to my documentary on the Federal Reserve about the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland and how that controls the financial system as we know it. Or I did a documentary on World War I last year that I wanted to follow up and extend that timeline forward.

Other things like that, but who knows when, if or how I'll have the time or ability to work on that. To be honest, I'm really preparing to take a short breather here while we have a chance because I know that as crazy as 2020 has been so far, I know we haven't seen the craziest of it yet. It's going to get even crazier in the fall, so just like I didn't possibly plan on doing a Gates documentary this year, I'm sure whatever I'm going to be doing in the fall is not something I would even be thinking about planning at the moment. There are going to be curveballs, I can guarantee that.

Doug: One quick question, James. We always try to end the show on a positive note, it's not always possible, but do you still have hope, and what gives you hope if you do still have it?

James: Yes, if I didn't have hope what would I be doing here? Obviously, I have hope that this can be overcome. My hope rests fundamentally on the human spirit. Humanity has always and will always prevail so long as humanity exists. Unfortunately, as crazy as it used to sound humanity will not always exist. We could have imagined some nuclear event or some comet striking or something, but now we can literally think about them changing humanity at the genomic level. That's really my worry. We do not have generations/centuries of time in order to throw off the psychopathic would-be rulers of society. We have to do this in short order because really we are being changed as swapping out the real for the fake.

Humanity will eventually end up with that fa6e and we will have essentially transhumanism trying to merge us with the machines and/or genomic mutations trying to change us at the DNA level and all of this craziness, sci fi craziness. The human spirit will prevail as long as the human spirit exists. I think at the point at which the human spirit fails to exist, well I guess there goes my hope. Until that point I will not give up hope.

Doug: Right.

Elliot: Excellent way to finish the interview there, James. Thank you. Is there anything that you'd like to tell the listeners? Where can we find you? Is there anything that you feel is particularly important to share? Otherwise, you've got a very large following on YouTube, how can our listeners find you and make use of your information?

James: The best way to find me is not on YouTube, and it's getting harder and harder to find me on YouTube anyway. Just forget about the control platforms. The best place to find me is Corbettreport.com. I'm on other alternative social media platforms as well, like minds.com, and Bitchute. Corbett Report is the place to go. It has all of my material, it's all there for free: audio, video, interviews, everything. I suppose if I could do anything it would be to encourage that if people have seen the Gates documentary and appreciated it then please do spread it to others. That's what it is there for. It's not just to educate yourself, but hopefully to educate others.

If you are interested in going further and deeper I would say if you haven't yet seen the Why Big Oil Conquered the World documentary, please go and view that. I think it's really an essential piece of this puzzle. That too is available completely for free on my website Corbettreport.com/bigoil. Or corbettreport.com/gates for the Gates documentary.

Just start dipping your toe in those waters. I've got 13 years of archives there and I think a lot of that material holds up. Some of it is even more relevant today than when I first made it.

Elliot: Thank you for that, James. We really appreciate you coming on today. It's been fantastic having you and as always you do a fantastic job. We really appreciate your acting as a beacon of light for humanity; there's not that many. In these troubling times it's amazing to see that you keep going on.

If that's everything, we would like to thank you again for coming on. Thanks to our listeners, that's all for this week's show. If you liked this show, "like" and subscribe, share it if you found it helpful. If that's everything then we will see you next week.