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'Putin didn't complain about the sanctions at all': Scholz, Macron wonder why sanctions weren't mentioned during 2022 Ukraine peace talks - Bild

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© Kay Nietfeld / dpa / Gettyimages.ruGerman Chancellor Olaf Scholz.. At the same time, the German chancellor noted that the Russian president had explained his point of view on what was happening in Ukraine.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and French President Emmanuel Macron were surprised when during their telephone conversations with Russian President Vladimir Putin in March 2022 the Russian leader did not mention the sanctions imposed on Moscow, the daily Bild reports.

"Something bothers me more than the talks: he [Putin] didn't complain about the sanctions at all. I don't know if he did so in the conversation with you [Macron]. He didn't even mention them," Bild quotes Scholz as saying while talking to the French leader after talks with the Russian president. "Not with me, either," the newspaper quoted Macron's response.

At the same time, the German chancellor noted that the Russian president had explained his point of view on what was happening in Ukraine.

"He told me about all his ideas on how a compromise could be achieved. He talked about demilitarization and denazification," Scholz recalled, adding that the Russian leader also talked about the need to recognize Crimea as part of Russia as well as the independence of the DPR and LPR, which later became part of Russia.

EU sanctions against Russia were first imposed in 2014 and have since been extended twice a year - in January and July - for 6 months. Since February 24, 2022, 11 packages of anti-Russian measures have been imposed in this way. The EU sanctions affected more than 1,800 individuals and legal entities. This is the largest-scale sanctions regime in the EU's history. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that the unilateral sanctions against Russia were illegitimate and the West's pressure on Moscow, unprecedented.

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Christian83 · 2023-08-28T20:32:16Z

"Something bothers me more than the talks: he [Putin] didn't complain about the sanctions at all.

Footage of Putin leaving the phone meeting… [Link]

RockFall ·

cristiano83

· 2023-08-28T22:10:08Z

ReRan ·

Christian83

· 2023-08-28T22:34:50Z

honor-guardian · 2023-08-29T00:06:38Z

Prediction:

Down the road, when the livelihoods, freedoms, and financial independence of the peoples of the West are close to near extinction, the financiers that run the West will announce a great breakthrough for peace, and the benefit of the world: Russia, China, and NATO/USA, will announce an initiative that will bring the world economies into a global 'brotherhood' of security and prosperity.

And the people of the world will welcome their ultimate enslavement with smiles, cheers, and open arms...until they realize they've been had since the end of WWII.

codis · 2023-08-29T05:51:16Z

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and French President Emmanuel Macron were surprised when during their telephone conversations with Russian President Vladimir Putin in March 2022 the Russian leader did not mention the sanctions imposed on Moscow, the daily Bild reports.

Complaining that Putin is not a whiny bitch ?

Someone projecting here ?

Oldfart · 2023-08-29T09:28:27Z

codis Nice response! It seems the west is full of Whiny Bitch politicians of late!

codis · 2023-08-29T09:44:51Z

Oldfart I am really shocked by the psychological constitution these two supposed "leaders" reveal here. They behave like whiny little children, complaining that their parents didn't give in to their temper tantrum. Really pathetic.

Perhaps something changes once they drove the "EU" project against the wall, full speed.

Gabriel · 2023-08-29T11:27:17Z

codis

They behave like whiny little children

That's because they are. Whiny childlike puppets who do as they are told and then cry to their handlers when they don't get the response they wanted.

codis · 2023-08-29T12:27:00Z

Gabriel Scholz is even older than me.

Did his parent's generation really raise such deadbeats ?

And how did such a spineless, weak-minded creature become Kanzler ?

These are rhetorical questions, though. It is the natural course of the decaying empire.

ReRan · 2023-08-29T17:10:33Z

codis And did it never occur to them that Putin didn't complain because the sanctions haven't really hurt him? They have done more harm to the EU than to Russia.

RockFall · 2023-08-29T17:25:43Z

códigos I think the Chinese have an answer to this, and I quote a comment from a Chinese analyst:

"You (the Westerners) are lions guided by sheep. The sheep know they don't deserve the positions they hold. The sheep (the Western leaders) depend on you (the population) to avoid being devoured. Hiding their imposter syndrome, they live in a permanent defensive state, trying to maintain their position by granting all your demands, spending beyond their means, indebting themselves, stealing, and even killing if necessary, just to keep the lions fed and from devouring them.

However, in China, it's sheep being led by lions. The power elite doesn't have an imposter syndrome; they know they're powerful. They have the ability to expand their territory and increase their dominance. They don't need (the Chinese leaders) the opinion of their population, nor does the population feel entitled to give it. They've reached where they are because they are the strongest. Although, occasionally, they do devour a sheep."

RockFall · 2023-08-29T17:56:06Z

codis All of this was to analyze the first reaction of the Chinese Minister of Foreign Affairs upon arriving in Singapore.[Link]
The Chinese FM notices that his counterpart is not wearing a tie and doesn't take even a second to remove his own, as it would put him in a position of superiority in terms of how the meeting is conducted. This move exposes his host or the diplomatic reception, or at worst, disrupts the expected level of seriousness for the meeting.

The Chinese FM's reaction turns a situation of disadvantage, where he made an error in gauging the seriousness of the initial encounter, into an advantage. He presents his respects and humility. In the video, you can also observe how almost instantly, the rest of the Chinese FM team reacts in the same way, considering the situation and mirroring their FM's actions.

This kind of consideration and diplomacy is not seen in any Western leader, where they treat others as inferior beings who must show them deference or vassalage because they come from a garden while others are from the jungle.

In the West, parties and leaders may change, but policies often do not. However, in China, parties may remain the same, and leaders sometimes change, but policies can change.

codis · 2023-08-30T06:27:43Z

RockFall

All of this was to analyze the first reaction of the Chinese Minister of Foreign Affairs upon arriving in Singapore.[Link]

The Chinese FM notices that his counterpart is not wearing a tie and doesn't take even a second to remove his own, as it would put him in a position of superiority in terms of how the meeting is conducted. This move exposes his host or the diplomatic reception, or at worst, disrupts the expected level of seriousness for the meeting.

At times, this was called "diplomatic etiquette". Adhering to a certain form, i.e. clothing style, behavior and speach was a way to show respect to the other side, and took the event serious.

But with the intellectual degradation of the West, the appearance of Western "leadership" degraded as well. What a surprise. Do you remember Turdeau's (sic) behavior at the previous G20 meeting in Nov. '22 ?

By the way, this trickled down into society, too. Most of my professional life (engineering), I had been wearing a suit for job interviews. Nobody cares nowadays.

RockFall · 2023-08-30T07:12:35Z

codis

But with the intellectual degradation of the West, the appearance of Western "leadership" degraded as well. What a surprise. Do you remember Turdeau's (sic) behavior at the previous G20 meeting in Nov. '22 ?

I remember it, in fact, I laughed when he received a reprimand from Xi.

By the way, this trickled down into society, too. Most of my professional life (engineering), I had been wearing a suit for job interviews. Nobody cares nowadays.

I hadn't thought about it, but what you say about suits is true. Engineers from a generation above mine tend to wear them, however, neither I nor my colleagues and friends in the same profession wear them. I had never thought about it before. Perhaps for comfort or to differentiate ourselves from managers or salespeople, we usually opt for something simpler.

Or perhaps we have self-degraded or devolved into mere technicians who adhere to regulations set by various government and safety agencies, lacking imagination or creativity.

And the truth is that in the case of medicine, it's even more noticeable, or at least in the doctors I know and share friendship and age with. They have become more dehumanized technicians, addicted to opioids, sexually depraved, and power-hungry, and this was before COVID. The reality is that they are not even a shadow of what doctors were 20 or 30 years ago.

Perhaps not only the empire and its institutions are in decline, but also the population living within it will fall with it.

Working enough to pay bills and sleep peacefully, without caring where the food comes from and where our waste goes. The modern slavery of the neoliberal model.

codis · 2023-08-30T07:40:32Z

RockFall

I hadn't thought about it, but what you say about suits is true. Engineers from a generation above mine tend to wear them, however, neither I nor my colleagues and friends in the same profession wear them.

Just to make it clear, I only talk about job interviews. Perhaps two or three hours.

As an engineer mostly in R&D departments without direct customer/sales contact, I never wore a suit during the job. Bank clerks and sales men still do, I think. In the few banks that still have on-site personnel, though ...

Perhaps not only the empire and its institutions are in decline, but also the population living within it will fall with it.

This is integral part of the decline, as I realized. The people that go along are the empire, they keep it up with their daily chore, their savings and their bank credits. And the cultural & moral degradation affects anyone.

RockFall · 2023-08-30T08:04:17Z

codis I understood, and it made me think. Similarly, I've never gone to a job interview in a suit. I tend to wear them for weddings and funerals. Maybe now I wear them more to see others' reactions. Perhaps they take me more seriously and promote me; it's never a bad thing to get a raise.

codis · 2023-08-30T09:04:40Z

RockFall Well, it was customs here in Europe. Weddings and funerals, too.

Not sure what reactions you get when you try it nowadays ...blank stares perhaps

RockFall · 2023-08-30T19:46:29Z

codis Hahaha, that's possible, although I'm content with not being mistaken for a hitman, economist, or politician, even though these days they might all seem the same.

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