Deni It is exactly the opposite for me. Vaccinated friends and family will not talk at all about this.

Demore I'm sorry, it's heatbreaking; I did loose what I thought was a good friend who refused to speak to me again in the beginning of the scamdemic all because I thought that there cannot be a vaccine that can be made for an ever changing flue virus. TO me it was a logical argument but for her, it was like I said something insane; she told me I need to have my head examined and that she can no longer talk to me as lung as I believe that or for the period of the pandemic; that was more than a year ago when she met me after the lockdown to go for a walk as we used to do on a regular basis but it took her four months to come out of her cacoon and then she wore a mask outside on a large trail where there's barely any passers by and I brought my mask for her to be respectful to her ( I felt like an idiot wearing it outdoors and told her that I had never done that before nor will I again but it was just for her). Anyway, not sure if her being an Austrian has to do with this but in my book she is a freakin Nazi now that I look back at things she was saying and I'm better off without a friend like that. I still can' believe that she told me to my face all of that stuff as if I was misinformed or ignorant when I've been researching and reading more than ever since this whole thing began. The only good thing that came out of this tragic scam, is that it opened my eyes to how I've been duped by liberalism and that taking the red pill after the blue pill only leads you to independence because all politics are corrupt and best of all I've discovered the true face of my friends and family and know who is for real and who is not. Sadly , the majority is lost possibly for good. I don't think there's a chance they would turn back from the path of this covidiotic era. Sorry to go on so long.

Deni '' I've discovered the true face of my friends and family and know who is for real and who is not.''

That is the saddest part.

'' Sorry to go on so long.''

No problems here. I vent sadness and/or anger to keep it from festering. Sharing lightens the load.

Demore thank you ! It's true; so grateful to have this outlet. Cheers !

Deni Your former friend was obviously an avid tell lie vision fan

They all are,these Cov-idiots

TV generated pandemic from the beginning

Deni I empathize completely and it appears that there's SOTType or SOTTite who doesn't have a huge percentage of their loved ones 'down with the propaganda' with ears and mind closed.

It breaks my heart also.

RC

LMAO One would think and that is true with most, however my former friend was not a TV watcher, however I think she listened to certain radio NPR propaganda and also worked for a medical company. She came from a family of pharma related people who have drank their own coo-laid. Well I hope she feels shame somewhere deep in her cold heart..just kidding..it's a sad state.

Rowan Cocoan Thank you my friend !

JohnnyQuest I know, right ?

Deni You’re not alone fellow traveler. My sons mother and stepfather are “true believers” and will likely inject him the moment he turns 12. Which will be in February of next year. My wife is health care worker and unless we can finagle a religious exemption she’ll have to get vaccinated too.

When your “silver lining” is that economic collapse might occur and societal breakdown proceed unabated prior to your child being vaccinated that’s when you know things have become unbelievably fucked up. I find myself fantasizing about his Branch Covidian parents dying from a cytokine storm before they can poison him.

The big turd is about to hit the giant fan.

JohnnyQuest ''The big turd is about to hit the giant fan.''

The way things are going I wonder where it will come from. It does not look good in spite of all the new info confirming the covid lies and manipulations. I think the truth about just about anything is about to get canned and a lid put on it for many years. I don't want to spread doom and gloom but my pessimism is at an all time high. There is no way that the leaders all over the planet do not know of the lies and yet they keep on drumming the bs. The bunch of wimps are afraid and they are saving their own skin and to hell with the rest of us. Leaders ? Like fuck they are.

The corrupt bought and paid for justice system will not be of any help to us.

Demore I just have this (rather hopeful) feeling that the world, on all levels, cannot carry such a monumental degree of bullshit on its back without completely breaking down.

I suppose I’m one of those people that believes collapse (whether engineered or organic) is exactly what everyone needs to recalibrate their priorities and thought processes.

I’ve been pessimist to such a high degree for so long that I feel as if it’s collapsed in on itself like a black hole and turned into some strange resigned stoicism.

It’ll be alright. I believe we are eternal beings and we are one with God (whatever or whomever it is). Though perhaps those who remain ignorant to this monstrousness and who do not resist will pay some price. I’m going down fighting that’s for sure.

JohnnyQuest ''...cannot carry such a monumental degree of bullshit on its back without completely breaking down.''

I think that is where the reset comes in.

''I’ve been pessimist to such a high degree for so long that I feel as if it’s collapsed in on itself like a black hole and turned into some strange resigned stoicism.''

I know what you mean, I oscillate between hope and pessimism and my middle ground is wait, pay attention and see. I do grab every bit of good news no matter how small and I have a glimmer hope against all hope that will not go away so to speak. I am aware that what I write says the opposite. I write from what I see and read.

''I’m going down fighting that’s for sure.''

I pray to have what it takes when the time comes.

JohnnyQuest & D & D: Great discussion. Absolutely on point. Hang tough all! RC

JohnnyQuest Argh ! It makes me so mad for the situation all the way around, for you, your son and people like us in similar situations. I'm going to give you three links with possibilities that might work; they've worked for others but I haven't had to use them myself yet although I plan to for my two kids or a potential employer or school.

First one is a spiritual not a religious so more philosophical form that you can customize to your needs.It is from a nurse that used it out of state to exempt her from Vaccination and even wearing a mask in her clinic.

Statement of Declination for Offer of Influenza Vaccine Product

YOUR NAME, a living woman retain and reserve all of my God-given rights including sole possession and sole use of all my biological materials which are granted to me by my Creator.

My employer and location of employment have offered an influenza vaccination product to me pursuant to and satisfying the requirements of YOUR STATE Health & Safety Code COPY AND PASTE INFLUENZA HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE HERE.

I retain the right to decline all attempts to access, influence and or otherwise alter any and all of my God-given biological material and or biological systems which are unique, flawless and original design and craftsmanship of my Creator and of which my Creator has granted me sole possession, proprietorship and use of.

I require that any and all product offered to me by my employer or workplace be both entirely retrievable from and also removable in its entirety from my body, person, and womanhood at the conclusion of each and every work period and or work shift and also and again at the completion of my contractual obligations with my location or employment, and or employer.

Pursuant to my above statement, I decline the offer for influenza vaccination product.

By: YOUR SIGNATURE DATE YOUR PRINTED NAME All Rights Reserved

JohnnyQuest The second one is this link [Link] that contains forms of exemption and third one is more forms from this link[Link] Hope at least one of those will work for your son and you could actually make a difference by passing these on to others.

JohnnyQuest I agree that we've all reached an all new level of disbelief in the immense scamdemic tyranny. I'm with you that when it comes to individual freedom we cannot back down or fold and every time I imagine what I would do or want to do to those who bring such misery in this world, I have to push a little deeper to fight it thru a legal means or beat them at their own game somehow because I don't want to stoop to the low level of the well known groups we've seen destroy our cities and parading violating all along being backed by the corrupt governments. I want to rise above that even when I feel like exploding out of my skin.

i was passing thru downtown Olympia with the family and was pleased to see peaceful protests push back anti vaccine mandates and then I saw a group all dressed in black and holding weapons and sticks like barbarians heading over to show their "toughness" to intimidate those who hold flags and signs and are out with grandparents and children, mostly teachers, firefighters, nurses and policemen, all peaceful protesting for their freedom rights and those groups looked like Satan's army coming up the sidewalk. I thought what a contrast and it should be obvious of what not to do or go down as. Of course there are exceptions and there is a time for that as well. I did not want to name them to bring them to light because I'm sure you can use your imagination as to who they are.

Demore i know what you mean, voting seems absolete after the last election and what we know now..

Deni Those folks (all folks) should carry pepper spray. Everyone you hit i the face with it is pretty much done for the day. I imagine if you hit someone in the ear with the stuff, it would also work, even though they have other protective equipment.

If that doesn't work, pull out a firearm and shoot them. (NEVER use a gun to threaten - that's uniformly assault with a deadly weapon - so if you pull it out and they don't run but come closer: blast em! (This is NOT legal advice - laws vary by location, etc.)

RC

Demore Since you grab unto every bit of good hope you hear about, I thought I might mention that both in California and Washington state there were two bills that did not pass against the forced vaxx for state workers and they had to allow provisions of certain exemptions without loosing their jobs. I 'm hoping they will win in Oregon as well; of course the win is buried deep and not hardly mentioned in the MSM. Hear of it from a friend who has instagram. I don't know details or what is the extent of the lawsuits and who they specifically pertain to and for how long but for now there were two major wins in two blue states where there is still a strong resistance to the mandates. Cheers !

Rowan Cocoan I hear that and agree ! I believe those folks are prepared and will use protection when necessary. Usually for now the police supervises and disperses if they escalate although I've heard that last year there was a shooting but no dead just injured. I would attend if I could but I'm always busy with something or other. I love seeing them thought that they are there ; it gives me hope..

Rowan Cocoan Isn't your use of language in this case 'incitement' counselor?

parzival No. Just common sense.

I had to use pepper spray once on an out of control crackhead brother of my GF and it shocked me how quickly it shut the guy down.

RC

Rowan Cocoan I was referring to the suggested use of the firearm...

parzival If someone attacks you you have the right to defend yourself - one of the most fundamental of rights. I didn't go into whether he was armed and levels of violence etc. RC

Rowan Cocoan I'll grant you that argument...One can never know how quickly a situation may escalate, especially if/when diplomacy breaks down...in a hurry!